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Apr 17, 2003, 3:04am

Hello!
I have formed a new club called the Active Worlds Programmers Club, we
are accepting members now!

Requirements:
1. Knowledge of a programming language or a will to learn to program.
2. Must be at least 12 years of age.
3. Must have a witness (if you are a programmer, otherwise reply with
LEARN).
4. Must have the software needed to program in the language you
know/want to know. (Visual Basic, Visual C++, etc.)


All other information you fill out on the form is strictly for putting
people into groups (for example, someone with 1-2 years experience in visual
basic can teach a beginners class in the club.) The information will NOT be
used to decide whether or not you are accepted.

PLEASE NOTE: You will be removed from the club if you do not have the
software needed to program or you lie about your qualifications.

-God Zedle, club president. 5 year programmer in VB, C/C++, PHP, Perl, Java,
HTML, etc

E-mail me at:
greg at greggage.com.

or contact me on AW, my citizen name is obviously God Zedle. :-)

Apr 17, 2003, 3:16am

oops, the url is http://mbhost.homeip.net:81/

forgot, lol

-Zedle

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Apr 17, 2003, 3:31am

[View Quote] Why would you need a witness... I wonder. Worried about trojans? You should make it
a requirement for the club members to share code openly.

--Bowen--

Apr 17, 2003, 2:43pm

they have the right to decide if they want to share their code openly.


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Apr 17, 2003, 4:16pm

[View Quote] Then it's nothing more than an executable sharing club. Sure, you could claim it a
programmer club, but unless they're sharing the source... there's no point. Isn't
the point of clubs to learn from your peers?

--Bowen--

Apr 17, 2003, 4:26pm

Sounds like an idea for people to copy and paste source code to me.

- Mark

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Apr 17, 2003, 4:34pm

Im not meaning to be offensive in any way, but in be interested in knowing
why you would even consider such a club? It is my believe that the system
that we have on these newsgroups and everyone helping everyone else is
absolutely brilliant and there is no need to change it, people who wish to
post their source code do it openly anyway such as on bots.omegauniverse...
The SDK is a good environment with which to learn but it takes the support
of allot of people, I myself learnt with the help of some really good people
who were always available, I took the advice I could off of this newsgroup
and off others.

I feel that new 'clubs' will do nothing but seperate the majority of
programmers from those who may see this new club and head straight there,
neglecting where allot of people will be, on this newsgroup.

While I think that its a good idea that everyone who programs in the AW
environment should work together to help eachother I still reserve my point
that it should take part on this newsgroup, not in areas created and
controlled by 1 man.

- Mark
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Apr 17, 2003, 4:41pm

[View Quote] Which actually helps people learn. If you picked up an HTML book right now, or just
copy and pasted HTML from others' websites... who do you think would learn HTML
faster from trial and error? The one who copy and pasted, right? Because he's
experimenting. The one who's doing it from a book is learning what the book wants
him to know and maybe not what he needs to know to do anything worthwile. It's great
you can put tables together to show predefined statistics, but can you put tables
together to show a webpage worth visiting?

--Bowen--

Apr 17, 2003, 4:42pm

[View Quote] Yeah, KAH has to finish his new system which I have no idea on what he's doing.
Maybe we can incorperate the club into that instead of seperating them off from the
rest of the community, or something.

--Bowen--

Apr 17, 2003, 10:59pm

this club was started for the purpose of helping new people learn and
collecting programmers together, it was just a way to talk to people who
knew how to do what you might not know how to do..

-Zedle


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Apr 17, 2003, 11:27pm

[View Quote] Then how does not requiring open source code help?

--Bowen--

Apr 18, 2003, 12:35am

you can help people directly without offering source code.

-Dion

[View Quote] [View Quote] Then how does not requiring open source code help?

--Bowen--

Apr 18, 2003, 1:26am

[View Quote] The best way to learn is through trial and error, not through what people tell you.
You can learn from both, but the better of the two is on your own.

--Bowen--

Apr 19, 2003, 1:03am

as long as your not a bomb disposal expert :)

Well I think its a great Ideal as I would like to start to create a bot my
self but have no Idea where to begin. I have MS Visual C++6 and 5 CD
training course on the language supplied by my work and would be glad of all
the help I can get on how to create interactive bot programs.

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Apr 19, 2003, 3:10pm

I would love to learn how to program a bot.. I have no idea where to begin..
I do Have VB6 though....


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Apr 19, 2003, 5:35pm

First step add the DLL to the project...
Second step... AwSdk.aw_init(AW_BUILD)

;)

- Mark

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