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Tourist, Citizen, & BOT entering/leaving status (Bots)

Tourist, Citizen, & BOT entering/leaving status // Bots

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m a r c u s

Apr 14, 2001, 9:03am
Whenever someone comes to a bots location including other bots I get a
status message. If they are moving, then they are constantly coming in and
out of each other's area a lot each day.

Is there a way to either increase the radius of the bots area so I only get
one status at each login or disable it entirely? I can see their names in
the world if they enter anyways, so having it tell me who is coming in and
out of one BOTS area a 100 times a day isn't necessary.

rough diamond

Apr 14, 2001, 9:04am
Which bot are you using, or did you program them?
-RD
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m a r c u s

Apr 14, 2001, 9:29am
Sorry, I assumed there was a standardized way of displayed status.

I am by far no programmer. I use Xelagot, but I presume this is a common
issue that can be dealt with in any BOT program regarding the repetitious
update of people leaving and entering a bot's area just because they moved
around the edge of the BOT's limits.


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grimble

Apr 14, 2001, 12:04pm
Your only issue is that the bot won't get notifications of anything outside
its hearing radius. The hearing radius of the bot is dictated by the rights
of its owner and, to my knowledge, there is nothing you can do about it. To
my mind, you need to position a number of bots around the world to get total
coverage and get them talking to each other, either behind the scenes in the
bot code itself or by whispering between them (which is again dependant on
the hearing radius of the bot).

It would be nice if a bot owned by a cit with ED could get enter/exit
messages covering the whole world generated by the world server, but alas,
not yet.

Grims



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m a r c u s

Apr 14, 2001, 9:39pm
"It would be nice if a bot owned by a cit with ED could get enter/exit
messages covering the whole world generated by the world server, but alas,
not yet."

Sorry, don't know what "ED" means in that message. I am not looking for
"messages covering the whole world". I am in AW world and I have bots that
give messages that I do not want. The reason this is because the bots like
you have helped confirm have a limited radius. Now every time they enter
and leave the edge of the radius, messages come up. I don't necessarily
want to change the radius for obvious reasons of chaos in heavily populated
areas. I think an option to simply turn the messages on or off would be
sufficient. The radius could stay exactly the same and no world owner
needed to change any parameters concerning the world.



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xelag

Apr 15, 2001, 11:22am
ED = Eminent Domain

Avatar Add (someone comes into the bot's perception area) and Avatar Delete
(someone leaves) cannot be modified. But you can write a script to manage
messaging (or build a bot that specifically does that). For that you have
to specify very clear criteria about what the bot must do etc... It's not
very clear from your message here what you want :)

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m a r c u s

Apr 15, 2001, 9:49pm
I don't know how much clearer I can be.

I don't want any bot to tell me who is entering or leaving its area.




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foxmccloud

Apr 15, 2001, 10:52pm
You can't do that.

Fox Mc Cloud

"m a r c u s" <none at sfsdfsd.come> a écrit dans le message news: 3ada3397$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I don't know how much clearer I can be.
>
> I don't want any bot to tell me who is entering or leaving its area.

xelag

Apr 16, 2001, 10:15am
[View Quote] Well just turn off the message. If you have a xelagot, read the help files
before starting a thread here :)

m a r c u s

Apr 16, 2001, 11:19pm
Xelag, no offense, you have a good program, but your help files just define
terms in case they are unfamiliar to people. THEY DO NOT TEACH. Before I
read about surveying, I read everything else in your help files to make sure
I was not going to miss anything. And then I read your section on
surveying. I did pretty well on my own until I got up to building. Then
someone was nice enough to walk me through this. I teach music, Japanese,
and web designing, so I have had some experience in the teaching process and
what a student needs in order to move on to the next step in a lesson.

A student needs a walk through, STEP by STEP procedure. If they are to click
something to achieve what you are teaching what do they click? If they are
to type something to achieve what you are teaching what do they type? Make
a numbered list containg all the steps like the following:

1. click "file"
2. choose "open"
3. Type in file name
4. Press enter

Students who don't need such "anal" information to learn or have already
learned can simply scan the essential steps picking up on what they need.
It's all on 1 single page, no hyperlinks to click. This also makes it nice
to print out.

You may want to put some time into setting up teaching lessons. I like to
build on one as much as I can. You teach steps 1-10 in Lesson 1 which
achieve task A putting as much detail as you possibly can. Then, you go to
Lesson 2, and teach steps 11-20 which expand on Lesson 1 to acieve task B.
Continue this process til you need to re-introduce a new Lesson.

You could have a glossary section with the pages you have already done for
easy look up to define terms.

Good Luck, hope this suggestion works

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xelag

Apr 17, 2001, 12:36am
You are welcome to make a tutorial :)

I myself spent 3 years making my bot. Free and for no money. I do not have
time nor the ability to create what you suggest, nor do I appreciate your
comments (or are you prepared to pay for my time and dedication?). If my
help pages do not help enough, that is tough cheese.

XelaG



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