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Jan 29, 2004, 9:02pm

There will be a post here when the 3.5 SDK is available, right?

Jan 29, 2004, 9:44pm

They've never posted updates to this group for a long time...

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Jan 29, 2004, 9:46pm

What 3.5 SDK? I cant think of anything new :O

- MR

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Jan 29, 2004, 10:27pm

[View Quote] There is a new checkbox in the world features water section that presumably
will be reflected as a new attribute in the SDK.

There is a new terrain elevation offset in the world features ground section
that will also presumably be accessable by SDK apps.

There could also be less obvious changes or bug fixes in the SDK that
we have no way of knowing about.

And then of course there is this:

[special id number] is only used with buttons using the sdk_event action.
The browser will send this id number with an sdk_event to the server to
perform some custom action to be handled by a bot in the world. (for example
"show map" or "open inventory", where the bot can respond by sending the
user the appropriate url)

Jan 29, 2004, 11:45pm

That last one leaves open a lot of interesting possibilities :)

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Feb 1, 2004, 9:45pm

Wouldn't we be required to distribute custom toolbars to anyone we wanted to
be able to use such features, though? I can't imagine too many casual
visitors to a game downloading something like that, so this is pretty much a
feature limited to universe owners. :P

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Feb 2, 2004, 12:21am

Well if you own a world, you can certainly put your own custom
toolbar on there for your use only, and use it to easily command
your personal bot, couldn't you?

Even if you were just a cit.. if you can bring a bot into a world, then
you could make your own toolbar for it without needing to own
a universe, couldn't you?

If you don't think it's possible.. please explain why.

And while you speculate on how useless it is.. I'm going to find
ways to make it useful as soon as I get the latest SDK.

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Feb 2, 2004, 2:20am

"New in 3.5 is the ability to use a custom toolbar layout, along with
customized toolbar graphics. This feature is primarily designed for use by
universe administrators who can now design a custom toolbar prior to
distributing the software. "



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Feb 2, 2004, 11:39am

Well I think making a custom toolbar for games in the universe is a good
idea. Beats having to type in chat commands all the time. All a user has to
do is download the toolbar file, put it in their toolbar directory, and then
restart the browser. Then, they can just change it in the settings when they
want to play the game and switch it back to the default one when they are
done. Simple as that...

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Feb 3, 2004, 11:08pm

Oh, I'm not saying it's useless, just a bit limited. Having the browser
download a set of toolbar files from the world's OP (if they're even
provided) would be much better, IMO. You can certainly put your game's
toolbar up for download, but few will actually bother to install it, and
even more will be terrified to DL it. I will, of course, be making a custom
toolbar to handle a number of Proxima's game commands as soon as the 3.5 SDK
is here, I just feel the need to point out how it could be better than it
is.

-Monkey

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Feb 3, 2004, 11:29pm

They are full on bitmaps... have you seen the size of the things?!

- MR

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Feb 3, 2004, 11:48pm

Well, you know, they wouldn't *have* to be bitmaps. I would assume that
custom world toolbars could be jpgs without it being a particularly serious
issue. :P

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Feb 4, 2004, 12:17am

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Feb 4, 2004, 1:32pm

OK.. point taken. I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of mechanism
evolves that allow custom toolbar buttons on a per world basis
via automatic download through your OP path.

Just pointing out that it could be useful even if someone only made
their own personal custom toolbar without distributing it to anyone
else.

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Feb 7, 2004, 1:10pm

Well, the huge limitation here, and the reason why I won't be using the
toolbar, is that there's no way to trigger the SDK_Event command by mapping
it to a key.

If that were possible, FPS games could be programmed without the limitation
of only being able to click on avatars and objects. In my opinion, this
would be a huge achievement.

-Brant

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Feb 9, 2004, 7:36pm

Now that would be a glorious day for AW, when we could finally have some
real balistics-based combat. Well, for people who like FPS games anyway. ;D

-Monkey

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