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Jul 24, 2003, 3:43pm

How would anybody (newbies and old timers) that came to AW environment know
the difference of the "trusted sources" unless the sources have been tested,
approved, and posted on a d/l site?

Weebo

Jul 24, 2003, 3:52pm

I know www.3d-reality.com is a trusted source (my site)

~John

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Jul 24, 2003, 4:03pm

www.imabot.com
www.imatowns.com
www.activeworlds.com
www.mauz.info
www.virtuallylearning.com
http://objects.activeworlds.com
www.aweduserve.org

Off top of my head

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Jul 24, 2003, 4:20pm

www.xeonworlds.co.uk

~John

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Jul 24, 2003, 5:30pm

:-/

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Jul 24, 2003, 5:31pm

my first shortcuts =p .lol

urs is great 2 of course :)


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Jul 24, 2003, 5:32pm

[View Quote] LoL, don't forget http://www.oct31.de/aw/ (below his war stuff).

--
--Bowen--

No of SETI units returned: 44
Processing time: 36 days, 0 hours.
(Total hours: 864)
www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu

Jul 24, 2003, 5:37pm

And what about http://andras.net ?
And XelaG's (sorry, I don't have it handy on this box)?
And ...

You have quite some work now that you have started this ;)


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Jul 24, 2003, 5:47pm

Here are a few more:

XelaG Bots
http://www.imatowns.com/xelagot

AW News
http://www.awnews.org/html/

3D Host
http://www.3dhost.net/

Magsbot
http://www.turtleflight.com/magine/mb.html

Builderz
http://www.3dhost.net

Jul 24, 2003, 5:55pm

I telegramed Calpantera about that he said he was thinking of the same thing

<TELEGRAM QUOTE>

Telegram from Calpantera, sent Wed Jul 23, 2003 18:58:

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe even having the installers created,
code signed and hosted by AW

</TELEGRAM QUOTE>

Jul 24, 2003, 5:57pm

Oh and john lay off smaping my site on AW www.xeonsoft.co.uk does aw related
bots and soon to host worlds. If ppl find Xw on there then fine but dont go
smapping a non related stuff spam for my bots if you have to.

Jul 24, 2003, 6:12pm

hm, my "installer" is pksfx or unzip *g


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Jul 24, 2003, 6:21pm

I could be wrong, but I thought Weebo's question was "how would newbies know
which is a trusted source or not, when first coming to AW. Its all very
good spewing loads of URLs you know are safe - but how did you discover they
were safe?

Jul 24, 2003, 6:37pm

By never ever having any trouble ;-)
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Jul 24, 2003, 7:22pm

How about:

http://ts.oriox.com
http://www.oriox.com/3d.html

Those are my AW Resources :)

-Robbie

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Jul 24, 2003, 8:30pm

www.turtleflight.com

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Jul 24, 2003, 9:27pm

awcommunity.org

Ryan

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Jul 24, 2003, 10:34pm

"r i c h a r d" <richard.lazenby1 at ntlworld.com> wrote in
news:3f2039a3$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> I telegramed Calpantera about that he said he was thinking of the same
> thing
>
> <TELEGRAM QUOTE>
>
> Telegram from Calpantera, sent Wed Jul 23, 2003 18:58:
>
> I was thinking the same thing. Maybe even having the installers
> created, code signed and hosted by AW
>
> </TELEGRAM QUOTE>

Ugh. That's rather paranoid if you ask me. The simple solution is educating
people not to open anything at all, as has happened here. And while we're
discussion trusted sources, that was just what our friend M a t t exploited
to distribute it, first take a few citizenships, then abusing the trust
others had in the stolen accounts to further distribute it.

Don't just accept a bot/application without even asking what it does
("toolkit for AW" tells a *lot*, doesn't it...), or without getting a demo.
If you do accept something and it seems suspisious to you, investigate it.
Look in your process list (under Win9x/ME you won't get access to all
processes through CTRL+ALT+DEL unfortunately), in your registry, etc. A
packet sniffer can be usefull too.

I doubt everyone is going to be willing to give out their sourcecode to
AWI, and what would it help to have it code signed and hosted by them if
it's really a trojan?

KAH

Jul 25, 2003, 10:35am

Really pimping your hosting, its on there twice ;D.

-Joe

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Jul 25, 2003, 12:38pm

If you'll read my other posts, you'll notice that my signature always
has my hosting URL on it. I just didn't take it out of my signature for
that post and it was listed twice. :)

Builderz
http://www.3dhost.net

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Jul 25, 2003, 1:13pm

Exactly. Plus it was very easy to see this was a trojan... this was no AW
utility site - there wasn't even an SITE for you to look at.

"kah" <kah at kahnews.cjb.net> wrote this
(news:Xns93C319AEA3C40kahatkahnewsdotcjbdo at 64.94.241.201) in
general.discussion on 25 Jul 2003:

> "r i c h a r d" <richard.lazenby1 at ntlworld.com> wrote in
> news:3f2039a3$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:
>
>
> Ugh. That's rather paranoid if you ask me. The simple solution is
> educating people not to open anything at all, as has happened here.
> And while we're discussion trusted sources, that was just what our
> friend M a t t exploited to distribute it, first take a few
> citizenships, then abusing the trust others had in the stolen accounts
> to further distribute it.
>
> Don't just accept a bot/application without even asking what it does
> ("toolkit for AW" tells a *lot*, doesn't it...), or without getting a
> demo. If you do accept something and it seems suspisious to you,
> investigate it. Look in your process list (under Win9x/ME you won't
> get access to all processes through CTRL+ALT+DEL unfortunately), in
> your registry, etc. A packet sniffer can be usefull too.
>
> I doubt everyone is going to be willing to give out their sourcecode
> to AWI, and what would it help to have it code signed and hosted by
> them if it's really a trojan?
>
> KAH
>

Jul 25, 2003, 2:21pm

Ah, well, you formatted the list just like your signature ;).

-Joe

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