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Dec 21, 2002, 10:54am

For many years now we have been using the [Z](N/S) [X](E/W) [Y](A)
[YAW](Void) method of using coordinates in bots and applications, now,
because pitch is seemingly comming along I think those people in here could
do with thinkup up a new standard notation for it so we can consider using
it as the same in future bots so people dont have to learn 5 or 6 differnt
notations.

Xelagot already seems to use (t) for tilt on objects, seems a suitable
choice unless anyone has other ideas? I think theta or alpha are out of the
question because theyre not available on most standard keyboards without an
Alt Code.

- Mark
- Hey Cal, how about letting AWEDU have beta world server?

Dec 21, 2002, 11:26am

I've always considered AW's position notation to be a major pain and never
found the need to parse it into data. People want to use my stuff, they can
follow my rules ... i.e. provide explicit values for N/S, E/W Altitude, Yaw
(and now Pitch?) and not merge them into a pointless format.

Happy to create AW-esque text from a known position within the code, but my
opinion is that if someone writes a bot where a location can be entered,
give 'em 4 or 5 or 6 fields to put the actual values in.

Grims

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Dec 21, 2002, 2:03pm

None SDK programmers wont have a clue what SDK coordinate locations are.

- Mark

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Dec 21, 2002, 4:13pm

Maybe not, but its not a difficult task to make the jump from "2.4N" to
entering 2.4 in the "N/S" box ... just tell them that -2.4 would mean 2.4S.

If they can't work it out from that, then they're too dangerous to be using
a computer.

Grims

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Dec 21, 2002, 5:29pm

But you need 5 labels, 5 boxes and 5 commands for that, unless your an
awkward git using console apps. lol

- Mark
Guilty as charged
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Dec 21, 2002, 9:23pm

So? If by "5 commands" you mean buttons, you can just have one that's like "Set Coordinates" or something.

-Agent1

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Dec 21, 2002, 10:14pm

Whats easier for the main people...

-2750000 tab 1000000 tab 5000 tab 2700 tab 500 return

orrr...

2750s 1000w 5a 270 5t

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Dec 21, 2002, 11:09pm

[View Quote] Yeah if by main people you mean crazy crackheads that like to multiply #'s and hit
the ackward tab key instead of hitting the spacebar.

--Bowen--

Dec 22, 2002, 1:51pm

Uhh... you can tell them to enter the same coordinates as they would in AW and just multiply them yourself.

-Agent1

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Dec 22, 2002, 4:44pm

Do you even try??

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Dec 22, 2002, 4:51pm

Maybe I misunderstood ... I thought you wanted opinions, and now you have
mine.

One more time, for the record ... I find the AW notation annoying, merging
location attributes into a single free text field. As Agent1 said, -2750 >
1000 > 5 > 270 > 5. It makes much more sense to me ... so I'll leave it
there.

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Dec 23, 2002, 12:26am

How about something like this?...

[world] ["+"|"-"]%Z["N"|"S"] ["+"|"-"]%X["W"|"E"] [["+"|"-"]%Y"A"] [[["+"|"-"]%PITCH ["+"|"-"]%YAW ["+"|"-"]%ROLL]|[[["+"|"-"]%PITCH] ["+"|"-"]%YAW]]

(case insensative, of course)

Where inclusion of the "N" or "S" makes the %Z (value of Z, or North) component absolute, and inclusion of the "W" or "E" makes the %X (value of X, or West) component absolute, the %Y (value of Y, or Altitude) component is relative if either or both of the %X and %Z components are relative, the %YAW is relative if preceded by a sign (+/-) and the %PITCH and %ROLL components are relative if the %YAW component is relative.

The mandatory "A" for the altitude makes it pretty easy to parse.

TechnoZeus

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Dec 23, 2002, 1:16am

[View Quote] Sure, when it's not weird.

--Bowen--

Dec 23, 2002, 8:21am

Well you stick to what you think isn't wierd, and I'll just ignore what I
think is wierd.

Bye

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Dec 23, 2002, 4:44pm

Well that made practically no sence at all, care to explain.

- Mark

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Dec 23, 2002, 4:44pm

Yeah, sorry took you to mean the full sdk coords :)

- Mark

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Dec 23, 2002, 8:53pm

Or not to... The other half your message just apepared :o

- Mark

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