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john tirado

Jul 16, 2006, 1:50am
Where did he go? he's worlds are gone and I added his cit and its just
pending...

elysium

Jul 16, 2006, 3:35am
Hes been banned with several others i hear during the 4.1 change over
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john tirado

Jul 16, 2006, 4:24am
Why was he banned?
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talisan

Jul 16, 2006, 4:31am
Why the heck would Insanity be banned? I have never heard anything but good
about this person!? *sighs*
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elyk

Jul 16, 2006, 6:26am
Don't ever place bets on things you hear from your sources then :P

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strike rapier

Jul 16, 2006, 6:28am
He did however run a rather large (and profitable) business in AW.

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- Mark Randall
http://www.temporal-solutions.co.uk

"We're Systems and Networks..."
"It's our job to know..."

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lady tigrane

Jul 16, 2006, 9:56am
I met up with him about a month ago in Colorado right after this all went
down. My husband and I both think he's the kindest guy you'd ever wanna
meet. For Activeworlds to do what they did was horribly cruel. I'd taken a
hiatus from activeworlds and the prime reason for my return was to give
moral support for the guy. If they decide to ban me for this, trust me..
it's no biggie. I'm hardly impressed with Activeworlds in and of itself. Too
bad corporate forgot what activeworlds was really about and got arrogant.



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lady tigrane

Jul 16, 2006, 11:39am
Oh.. and as a side note... posts to and from him have also been deleted from
the newgroups... wonder what Activeworlds is afraid of?

baro

Jul 16, 2006, 4:17pm
I wonder why though. Anyone know why someone would suddenly go crazy
and get them selves banned?

lady tigrane

Jul 16, 2006, 7:37pm
It wasn't him that went crazy.. he simply complained about something and
Activeworlds got petty and vindictive. He's not Activeworlds only victim
either.

wcoluser

Jul 16, 2006, 9:32pm
Yes, InSaNiTy was blocked causing losses and interference to himself, his
business and his customers. So that everyone knows, a lawsuit has been filed
against the software company for the acts which in my opinion, appear to be
deliberate and malicious as well as deceptive in trade practices. The day
has now come that the Courts will enter into this software issue and apply
the Law, finally. In my opinion, for far too long, there have been too many
violations and disrespects of the Law. We will all now await the Court and
it's decisions. The lawsuit was filed July 6, 2006 and as a result of the
filing became public record. The company should have by now, been served, by
uniformed Sheriff's Deputies, at their offices, thus being informed that
they are being sued for a multitude of causes cited in the petition.
The Law is fairly simple and in simple terms is basically states that if a
company interferes with the business of another company, and costs that
other company actual damages, then the company found interfering will be
responsible for damage times three, plus punitive damages if the Court feels
that punishment is appropriate. Again, in my opinion of the facts, punitive
damages could very well be applied and very well may be very large. If you
ever review legal cases and you see where a company acted with malice and
acted with arrogance, those are the cases where you might see compensatory
damages of $100,000.00 and the punitive damages in the $Millions.
As Always, any customer or prospective customer, who would like more
information, may contact Lars via e-mail and/or phone. The contact
information is always posted on the website contact page.
I do hope for initial action of the Court very soon so that our customers,
my company and myself, receive the full legal protection of the Law.

I sincerely hope that slander and libel will cease in this matter
immediately. Please be aware that as this is now a matter of the Courts, ALL
interference will be noted and other parties who attempt to, or directly,
interfere with my company, may be added to the legal protection of the Court
and may become additional defendendants in lawsuits filed against them
personally. Is it really worth risking your home and finances for a few
minutes of malicious text writing? Let's hope that it is not.

I hope that this legal action will help protect the customers who have
always deserved their protections as provided for by Law.











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wcoluser

Jul 16, 2006, 9:32pm
Yes, InSaNiTy was blocked causing losses and interference to himself, his
business and his customers. So that everyone knows, a lawsuit has been filed
against the software company for the acts which in my opinion, appear to be
deliberate and malicious as well as deceptive in trade practices. The day
has now come that the Courts will enter into this software issue and apply
the Law, finally. In my opinion, for far too long, there have been too many
violations and disrespects of the Law. We will all now await the Court and
it's decisions. The lawsuit was filed July 6, 2006 and as a result of the
filing became public record. The company should have by now, been served, by
uniformed Sheriff's Deputies, at their offices, thus being informed that
they are being sued for a multitude of causes cited in the petition.
The Law is fairly simple and in simple terms is basically states that if a
company interferes with the business of another company, and costs that
other company actual damages, then the company found interfering will be
responsible for damage times three, plus punitive damages if the Court feels
that punishment is appropriate. Again, in my opinion of the facts, punitive
damages could very well be applied and very well may be very large. If you
ever review legal cases and you see where a company acted with malice and
acted with arrogance, those are the cases where you might see compensatory
damages of $100,000.00 and the punitive damages in the $Millions.
As Always, any customer or prospective customer, who would like more
information, may contact Lars via e-mail and/or phone. The contact
information is always posted on the website contact page.
I do hope for initial action of the Court very soon so that our customers,
my company and myself, receive the full legal protection of the Law.

I sincerely hope that slander and libel will cease in this matter
immediately. Please be aware that as this is now a matter of the Courts, ALL
interference will be noted and other parties who attempt to, or directly,
interfere with my company, may be added to the legal protection of the Court
and may become additional defendendants in lawsuits filed against them
personally. Is it really worth risking your home and finances for a few
minutes of malicious text writing? Let's hope that it is not.

I hope that this legal action will help protect the customers who have
always deserved their protections as provided for by Law.

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wcoluser

Jul 16, 2006, 9:32pm
Yes, InSaNiTy was blocked causing losses and interference to himself, his
business and his customers. So that everyone knows, a lawsuit has been filed
against the software company for the acts which in my opinion, appear to be
deliberate and malicious as well as deceptive in trade practices. The day
has now come that the Courts will enter into this software issue and apply
the Law, finally. In my opinion, for far too long, there have been too many
violations and disrespects of the Law. We will all now await the Court and
it's decisions. The lawsuit was filed July 6, 2006 and as a result of the
filing became public record. The company should have by now, been served, by
uniformed Sheriff's Deputies, at their offices, thus being informed that
they are being sued for a multitude of causes cited in the petition.
The Law is fairly simple and in simple terms is basically states that if a
company interferes with the business of another company, and costs that
other company actual damages, then the company found interfering will be
responsible for damage times three, plus punitive damages if the Court feels
that punishment is appropriate. Again, in my opinion of the facts, punitive
damages could very well be applied and very well may be very large. If you
ever review legal cases and you see where a company acted with malice and
acted with arrogance, those are the cases where you might see compensatory
damages of $100,000.00 and the punitive damages in the $Millions.
As Always, any customer or prospective customer, who would like more
information, may contact Lars via e-mail and/or phone. The contact
information is always posted on the website contact page.
I do hope for initial action of the Court very soon so that our customers,
my company and myself, receive the full legal protection of the Law.

I sincerely hope that slander and libel will cease in this matter
immediately. Please be aware that as this is now a matter of the Courts, ALL
interference will be noted and other parties who attempt to, or directly,
interfere with my company, may be added to the legal protection of the Court
and may become additional defendendants in lawsuits filed against them
personally. Is it really worth risking your home and finances for a few
minutes of malicious text writing? Let's hope that it is not.

I hope that this legal action will help protect the customers who have
always deserved their protections as provided for by Law.

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wcoluser

Jul 16, 2006, 9:32pm
Yes, InSaNiTy was blocked causing losses and interference to himself, his
business and his customers. So that everyone knows, a lawsuit has been filed
against the software company for the acts which in my opinion, appear to be
deliberate and malicious as well as deceptive in trade practices. The day
has now come that the Courts will enter into this software issue and apply
the Law, finally. In my opinion, for far too long, there have been too many
violations and disrespects of the Law. We will all now await the Court and
it's decisions. The lawsuit was filed July 6, 2006 and as a result of the
filing became public record. The company should have by now, been served, by
uniformed Sheriff's Deputies, at their offices, thus being informed that
they are being sued for a multitude of causes cited in the petition.
The Law is fairly simple and in simple terms is basically states that if a
company interferes with the business of another company, and costs that
other company actual damages, then the company found interfering will be
responsible for damage times three, plus punitive damages if the Court feels
that punishment is appropriate. Again, in my opinion of the facts, punitive
damages could very well be applied and very well may be very large. If you
ever review legal cases and you see where a company acted with malice and
acted with arrogance, those are the cases where you might see compensatory
damages of $100,000.00 and the punitive damages in the $Millions.
As Always, any customer or prospective customer, who would like more
information, may contact Lars via e-mail and/or phone. The contact
information is always posted on the website contact page.
I do hope for initial action of the Court very soon so that our customers,
my company and myself, receive the full legal protection of the Law.

I sincerely hope that slander and libel will cease in this matter
immediately. Please be aware that as this is now a matter of the Courts, ALL
interference will be noted and other parties who attempt to, or directly,
interfere with my company, may be added to the legal protection of the Court
and may become additional defendendants in lawsuits filed against them
personally. Is it really worth risking your home and finances for a few
minutes of malicious text writing? Let's hope that it is not.

I hope that this legal action will help protect the customers who have
always deserved their protections as provided for by Law.


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wcoluser

Jul 16, 2006, 9:32pm
Yes, InSaNiTy was blocked causing losses and interference to himself, his
business and his customers. So that everyone knows, a lawsuit has been filed
against the software company for the acts which in my opinion, appear to be
deliberate and malicious as well as deceptive in trade practices. The day
has now come that the Courts will enter into this software issue and apply
the Law, finally. In my opinion, for far too long, there have been too many
violations and disrespects of the Law. We will all now await the Court and
it's decisions. The lawsuit was filed July 6, 2006 and as a result of the
filing became public record. The company should have by now, been served, by
uniformed Sheriff's Deputies, at their offices, thus being informed that
they are being sued for a multitude of causes cited in the petition.
The Law is fairly simple and in simple terms is basically states that if a
company interferes with the business of another company, and costs that
other company actual damages, then the company found interfering will be
responsible for damage times three, plus punitive damages if the Court feels
that punishment is appropriate. Again, in my opinion of the facts, punitive
damages could very well be applied and very well may be very large. If you
ever review legal cases and you see where a company acted with malice and
acted with arrogance, those are the cases where you might see compensatory
damages of $100,000.00 and the punitive damages in the $Millions.
As Always, any customer or prospective customer, who would like more
information, may contact Lars via e-mail and/or phone. The contact
information is always posted on the website contact page.
I do hope for initial action of the Court very soon so that our customers,
my company and myself, receive the full legal protection of the Law.

I sincerely hope that slander and libel will cease in this matter
immediately. Please be aware that as this is now a matter of the Courts, ALL
interference will be noted and other parties who attempt to, or directly,
interfere with my company, may be added to the legal protection of the Court
and may become additional defendendants in lawsuits filed against them
personally. Is it really worth risking your home and finances for a few
minutes of malicious text writing? Let's hope that it is not.

I hope that this legal action will help protect the customers who have
always deserved their protections as provided for by Law.

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john tirado

Jul 16, 2006, 9:40pm
What did he complain about?
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ciena

Jul 16, 2006, 9:44pm
how many times do u have to post the same thing? one would have been
sufficient but 5 time?? sheesh!
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ciena

Jul 16, 2006, 9:45pm
oh please dont ask. lol he will post that 5 times too.
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wcoluser

Jul 16, 2006, 9:48pm
That was an accident via Outlook...
But "Sheeesh!" Your concern was a multi post error and not the issue
discussed in the message? Come on... This is the most serious issue ever
posted! It could impact each and every customer since Laws may have been
violated and you, yourself at risk as a result!
Why be so worried about a multi post when we all know that they can happen
by accident.


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wcoluser

Jul 16, 2006, 9:50pm
Wow, how rude. Specially considering that InSaNiTy has given you special
discounts in the past. Multi post was an accident of Outlook. Let's all
settle down please.

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young phalpha

Jul 16, 2006, 9:52pm
perhaps you should not discuss business in the newsgroups? just a thought...

- YP

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ciena

Jul 16, 2006, 10:07pm
hey! i know more about this than u think i do. I just dont think u should
air it out here and certainly not 5 times. I have been in contact with
insanity, and I understand whats going on. but thats between him and aw not
u or anyone else. I know what i know and i have kept my mouth shut and i
think u should do the same. i have nothing against Insanity. I just dont
think its your place to spread this around.
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wcoluser

Jul 16, 2006, 10:13pm
To clarify the matter. This "IS" InSaNiTy. I could not post in my regular
account since it has been blocked.
This certainly is an apporiate post since #1 this is a "community"
newsgroup, and what happens to one person can happen to ALL. Therefore it is
a community issue. The lawsuit is public record and therefore the public
has the right to be informed since the results can and most likely will,
impact each and every person using the software.
I apologize if any of this became a confusion for anyone. I did not intend
it to be, but this just further shows the interference with my relations due
to the blocks.



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ciena

Jul 16, 2006, 10:19pm
oooh hi insanity lol :) good to hear from u. well as long as its u posting
then u can say what u want. I thought it was someone trying to cause
trouble. and i didnt think they should be talking about u here.
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wcoluser

Jul 16, 2006, 10:22pm
Thank you for your support and I apologize for the confusion and for outlook
multi posting... I didn't sign it because the origoinal was sent in my
original acount name but that was blocked from my posting.

I hope that no one uses the post as a slamming board. This is a grave issue
at best and the Courts and it's officers may very well take review of all
that is going on to base their findings from.

Tak care Cienna and EnJoY*



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tengel

Jul 16, 2006, 10:45pm
you can remove those xtra post by go Message->Cancel Message in OE.

Tengel

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baro

Jul 16, 2006, 10:51pm
Internet lawsuits are GREAT, always on firm legal grounds.

But it's aw's fault, they should really add to thier licence agreement
something about being able to cancel accounts if they want and not being
liable for damages or losses.

Oh.. wait...

strike rapier

Jul 17, 2006, 12:32am
[View Quote] Welcome to the internet ol chap! - and Yes! - By threatening everyone with
having their homes and finances destroyed if they write anything you don't
like then you, good sir, lose at the internets! Are you a scientologist by
any chance?

Now then, if you want your plan to actually work - how about you stick to
sueing companies rather than threatening to sue people (and hey, whom knows,
you might actually keep the general populus on your side - you know ive
actually forgot about how many times you mentioned lawsuits in your posts in
these newsgroups).

To be fair, its America's own fault for having the law determined by whom
can sue the hell out of eachother the most times in a week, rather than what
is actually written into law, and when you registered with AW you did agree
to go by their rules (including account removal) as Baro said - and yes, in
the past AWI has made some god-aweful descisions about citizenships and
such - mainly due to their lack of research and poor internal
communication - but the fact still is, at most, all they need do is offer a
refund.

I find your taking offense to Ciena joking about your multiple posting
absolutely rediculous - and really, does anyone give a flying fook if you
gave Ciena disscounts? When you give someone a discount you do it as a
business descision at the time, you do not say "here is a discount, you may
not say or joke about anything anything related to me me I do not like"
thats like me saying "Here you can use Evo" (cheap promo:
www.awportals.com/eclipse/ - For all your world domination needs - Now with
death laser script) "but if you are ever mean to me im going to not let you
use it anymore! waaaaa".

A few points of note taken from the EULA:

SOFTWARE. This license does not grant you any right to any enhancement or
update. Furthermore, this license does not grant you continued access to AW
Software.

[read: Chrispeg can sod off on holiday for a decade and you arnt going to
get any upgrades, and thats just tough]

TERMINATION. AWLD may, at its sole discretion, terminate this Agreement,
the license granted herein, and your right to use or access the Software, AW
Software, or the Active Worlds server at any time. On termination, you must
destroy all copies of the Software.

[read: AWI may remove your license for use of its software, at which point

ARBITRATION. Any claim alleging a violation of any duty incident to this
Agreement, or your use of the Software or the AW Software, or arising out of
any transaction occurring in Active Worlds, irrespective of the legal theory
asserted, is subject to binding arbitration. This means that both sides
give up all rights to a jury or court trial. The arbitration will take
place, at your choice, either on-line before the Active Worlds Tribunal, or
before a panel of arbitrators at the American Arbitration Association
offices in Boston, Massachusetts.

[read: VR 'court' - Someone shoot Legion before he reads this]

TITLE. As between the parties, title, ownership rights, and intellectual
property rights in and to the Software and AW Software, and any copies or
portions thereof, shall remain in AWLD and its suppliers or licensors. The
Software and AW Software are protected by the copyright laws of the United
States and international copyright treaties. Title, ownership rights, and
intellectual property rights in and to any software, data, information,
text, pictures, images, avatars, characters, sounds, personalities, or other
content ("Content") accessed through the Software or otherwise with AW
Software is the property of the applicable owner and may be protected by
applicable copyright or other law. This License gives you no rights, title,
or interest to Content (including without limitation Content that you post
or create on the Active Worlds server) except the limited license to use the
AW Software as described above.

[read: Slightly missleading - anything you create in AW (or anywhere) falls
automatically under the protection of law, in other words if you build a
house in AW it is your intellectual property (as is everything you produce)
so you could probably bring a civil case if some-one came along and
propdumped your world and copied it into their own. Would be very low payout
though, probably OOC settlement).

So anyway, go right ahead, try to sue them - it will be an interesting case
regardless - of course AWI would only have to show one decent reason why
they wanted to get rid of you and your case collapses, but yeah see how it
goes but you should ensure you keep this one business to another.

By the way, everything in this email is a personal opinion ;)

--
- Mark Randall
http://www.temporal-solutions.co.uk

"We're Systems and Networks..."
"It's our job to know..."

lady tigrane

Jul 17, 2006, 9:37am
The TOS you typed out pretty much contradicts what Activeworlds advertises
on their website, which touts fabulous tech support, upgrades, and all kinds
of bells and whistles... and I can't seem to find the TOS anywhere on my
puter... their website.. etc... perhaps I overlooked it. Regardless it's
deceptive business practaces to say you get all this plus a bag o' chips
then slip that under the door when nobody's lookin. btw.. I wonder if after
9 am today I'll be able to even log in considering I'm posting in support of
my good friend Insanity.

strike rapier

Jul 17, 2006, 1:50pm
[View Quote] There is one major difference - what you put on a web site isnt binding, the
EULA (usually) is.

And yes, I would agree - the best thing to challenge on would be deceptive
business practices - But thats only when looked at through the human eye, in
legal terms AWI would usually be in the clear.

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