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Jul 12, 2006, 5:40pm

Hi everyone:

After a several month hiatus (And two phone calls to AW HQ earlier
today), I'm now back as a cit. Not only that, but I'm going to stop
putting off a project I had had in mind since the last *two* times my
cit expired. :)

But I need help on an unrelated topic.

As those of you who subscribe to podcasts are no doubt aware,
podcasters (and listeners alike!) seem tro have fallen foror prefer
Second Life. I'm doing all I can to promote ActiveWorlds and talk it
up in the podcasting circles whenever and wherever possible.

BUT I NEED YOUR HELP!!!

Now i'm NOT asking people to spam the PodcastAlley or PodcastPickle
message boards (nor am I encouraging it). Just simply (And subtlely)
mention AW, why you're on it, what makes it so good, etc....etc. to
everyone you know (Who knows? They might either BE a podcaster
themselves or know of one or two).

I've got a link to Hamsterville GZ up on my podcast (URL below for
your reference). Though it's currently not exactly prominent or
obvious, it IS there nevertheless.

I think if there are others who either have a build on one of the
public building worlds and/or own a world that host a podcast, they
need to promote AW on the podcast if they aren't doing it already.
Afterall, you *do* promote your podcast all over your build and/or
world, don't you?

In short...I say WE CAN BEAT THOSE SECOND LIFERS AT THEIR OWN GAME.
Here's the five W's....

WE are on the oldest and coolest 3D chat system in Cyberspace. Not
them.

THEY have to PAY FOR EVERYTHING they get. We don't.

THEY are limited to ONE world. WE have MANY.

I could on and on, but I'm preaching to the converted here. What's
needed is an ALL OUT MASSIVE community-wide promotion of AW in the
podcasting and podcast-listener circles. If Second Life can do it, SO
CAN WE. :)

IS ANYBDOY WITH ME HERE?? Am I being heard?? :)

Thoughts? Tar? Feathers? ALL OF THE ABOVE (Gulp!)???

Cheers :)

Hamsterville Ground Zero - AW 5029N 500E (Soon to change. More on
that in a later post)

Jul 12, 2006, 6:50pm

Its a decent idea, but I don't think directly advertising through
communities will do it anymore.

Take the fella who made this topic...
http://www.swcity.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=5429. He was promoting
There to us in the AW community, and after a long debate he became
rather zealous and now more than one of us aren't interested in there at
all *because* of him.

So just be weary, it may work against ya ;)

-Anthony

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Jul 12, 2006, 6:53pm

I'm sure PC Hamster isn't a stupid mentally challenged kid who deserves
suicide, but yeah, try not to go down a similar path.

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Jul 12, 2006, 7:16pm

Hi everyone:

On 12 Jul 2006 16:50:02 -0400, "Hyper Anthony"
[View Quote] >Its a decent idea, but I don't think directly advertising through
>communities will do it anymore.
>
>Take the fella who made this topic...
>http://www.swcity.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=5429. He was promoting
>There to us in the AW community, and after a long debate he became
>rather zealous and now more than one of us aren't interested in there at
>all *because* of him.
>
>So just be weary, it may work against ya ;)

One HUGE difference. This "Joel" was promoting There on the message
board of a community in a rival universe. That rival universe being
us.

What I propose is the promotion of AW within a community that is NOT a
member of a rival universe. By that I mean a place where no one
single community is a member of a rival universe, but instead MANY
communities which are based on the podcasts themselves are.

Now, if we were talking about the promotion of AW on the message
boards of SL, then I'd see your point as that WOULD NOT work (and
would probably get us banned from the site too!).

See where I'm headed with this now?

Cheers :)
PC Hamster
Mayor - City Of Hamsterville
pchamster at comcast.net
Denver, Colorado (my REAL city :-))
http://hamsterville.tripod.com/
HAMSTERVILLE GROUND ZERO - AW 5029N 500E
SKYPE ME at patspodcast

Jul 12, 2006, 7:34pm

Not particularly, because if Second Life is as big in podcasting
communities as you say it is, it'll be hard to find a place without a
pre-existing bias towards SL, and they'll be able to argue as to why
they like it just as much as we can argue why we like AW.

Still don't think it would be a very successful idea, but I'm probably
just being negative.

*shrug*

-Hyper


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Jul 13, 2006, 1:09am

Hi everyone:

On 12 Jul 2006 17:34:29 -0400, "Hyper Anthony"
[View Quote] >Not particularly, because if Second Life is as big in podcasting
>communities as you say it is, it'll be hard to find a place without a
>pre-existing bias towards SL, and they'll be able to argue as to why
>they like it just as much as we can argue why we like AW.

Call it battle of the Universes. :) *LOL!*

Seriously, Adam Curry (Yes THE Adam Curry from MTV who now runs Sirius
Stars 102 on Sirius Satellite Radio and has a podcast of his own) even
has property on SL (I hear it's a castle).

Yes, there's a bias towards SL. That's because a large majority of
those people are Mac owners and SL caters to the Mac crowd rather well
(Though I don't know how considering that 3D cards aren't made for
Macs, but they do).

There's not a lot of PC users there. A lot of PC podcasters either
A). Don't know about either SL or AW or B). Do know about SL (And
have tried it), but not AW and have found SL to not be user-friendly
for some reason.

AW has a chance to tap into the podcasters on PCs just like SL has
with the Mac podcasters.

Now, for my part, I reposted a few months back an edited version of my
interview with OneSummer from last year when the talk of SL had
reached a fever pitch on PodcastPickle ALONE. I knew that part of the
interview would be useful as a general promotion tool, so I used it
and reposted on my podcast page. at
http://www.freewebtown.com/patspodcast2/ if you'd like to take a look
and listen (It's the second item down).

>Still don't think it would be a very successful idea, but I'm probably
>just being negative.
>
>*shrug*

I think you *are* being negative IMO. :P

Cheers :)

Jul 14, 2006, 6:45am

PC Hamster we love you, we listen to your podcast all the time.


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Jul 18, 2006, 7:14pm

You're *all* missing one fundamental difference between AW and SL.

SL is managed properly. SL gets updated *very* regularly, whereas AW
went for more than 2 years without being updated, apart from very
infrequent bugfixes. More to the point, SL doesn't exist solely for
commercial benefit, as a matter of fact if you subscribe to the Premium
Annual option, you get it back exactly in L$ stipend every year.

So, uh, yeah. SL pwns.


-Lt


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Jul 18, 2006, 7:51pm

Other than being forced to build all in the same ugly world and forced
to build only small-scale things.

But yeah, so long as you don't want your own world, don't want your own
path, don't want near unlimited space, then SL is fine.

SL doesn't exist solely for commerical benefit? Every company exists
soley for comercial benefit. So if you pay them a lot of real money,
they are nice enough to give it back to you in game money? Or can you
turn L$ back into real money? Wouldn't that make the game free?? What
step am I missing here?

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Jul 18, 2006, 10:41pm

You are missing a very important point... SL has been losing money for
years. As in they are not yet profitable. They have investors and they can
waste some money. Google it!

Same as Dish Network was for years... trying to drive a wedge between the
consumer and the cable companies... they ate the costs for a long time.


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Jul 18, 2006, 10:53pm

hmmm... If SL is so darned good I wonder why he is here lol.
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Jul 18, 2006, 11:00pm

http://news.com.com/Second+Life+scores+11+million+in+funding/2100-1043_3-6054598.html

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2006/tc20060328_688225.htm

Jul 18, 2006, 11:05pm

What do you think AW could do if they scores 8 million dollars in funding?
lol? Then got 11 million more?

Personally, I think E N Z O would quietly disappear on his boat one day and
never be seen again ;) after opening up an offshore account and buying a
non-virtual island somewhere down in the Caribbean.
(http://www.privateislandsonline.com/caribbean.htm)

:P~

Jul 19, 2006, 7:17pm

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying AW is a total write off.

However, if you are looking for a community as well as a platform, go to
SL. Quite frankly, the community here (SW City and the AWTeen guys
excepted) stinks. It's full of middle aged women complaining about the
younger generation, having cat fights, etc. It bores me. The only
reason I am still on AW is because it is a good platform for programmers
and designers who need to rapidly develop something that works. For
example, see my Who Wants to Be a Millionaire studio at AWTeen
505N,1831W. And my point still stands about AW - it is managed the same
way a three year old would manage a nuclear reactor. Badly. The last
major update on SL was about 3 months ago. The last major update before
4.1 was over 2 YEARS ago. Plus the fact, for $72 a year on SL, you get
a hell of a lot. And you can access SL properly for free. Stuff you
build is protected. You don't get uncontrollable vandalism in SL. A
land owner in SL has the power to delete or return objects, no matter
who owns them. Which means you can keep your buildings clean.


-Lt



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Jul 21, 2006, 2:20pm

oops, just realised most of what i said has already been said, nevermind.
how do you cancel messages again? in outlook that is.

-SWE

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Jul 21, 2006, 2:30pm

you have to pay for things in the game :)
seams like the membership money is just a way for them to make sure you
spend money in the game.

-SWE

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