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lanezeri

Feb 21, 2001, 1:46am
Ok.. I posted before.. I need ideas for bots.. you all complain there aint
enough bots.. so give me ideas!

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tony56

Feb 21, 2001, 2:15am
Maybe a scriptable RPG bot? There's probably allot of demand for those.

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sw chris

Feb 21, 2001, 3:13am
You know what? I don't know. =P All I think I know is that there needs to
be an ultimate bot that can do everything. Magsbot and Xelag have come
close, but uh, no cigar.

:)
SW Chris
p.s. I guess that saying went out with the Clinton era, huh? ;)

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awusa

Feb 21, 2001, 3:57am
Can someone, put up a C++ or VB compler on a Warez site or something, and give
it to ppl?

[View Quote] > Ok.. I posted before.. I need ideas for bots.. you all complain there aint
> enough bots.. so give me ideas!
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agent1

Feb 21, 2001, 11:43am
No.

-Agent1


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holistic1

Feb 21, 2001, 12:59pm
Ok... here's one.. How about a deerbot that will allow multiple deer with
grazing, herding, follows terrain, people shy etc.

Holistic1

[View Quote] > Ok.. I posted before.. I need ideas for bots.. you all complain there aint
> enough bots.. so give me ideas!
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> http://wt.s5.com
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> http://www.stuffx.com/aw

ananas

Feb 21, 2001, 1:31pm
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Not sure how that is handled in US but here asking people to do
something illegal is illegal too.
Here are 2 legal ways, better you's try them:

http://cui.unige.ch/langlist
http://www.idiom.com/free-compilers/

awusa schrieb:
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> Can someone, put up a C++ or VB compler on a Warez site or something, and give
> it to ppl?
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rolu

Feb 21, 2001, 1:48pm
[View Quote] make a bot which pretends to be a human

including talk and building and stuff

let awci buy it so they can pretend we have 10k users online at the same
time :-)

rolu

brandon

Feb 21, 2001, 2:58pm
ok im not new on this NG but ive never posted anything before lol...i love
getting new bots and workign with them but its hard running all these dang
scripts over. I hate that you can only run one script at a time on one bot.
I need a bot that can do like what scripts can do but without switching
scripts to do something, I want one that does evrything. And i think thats
what evryone would like. (not evrythign but like one that does all world
manegment etc. like diferent roles.)
ok bot ideas:

I need like a world manegment bot that can:
1.Eject people on command for X amount of minutes or cussing people
automaticly (acording to a bad word list and for a predifined amunt of
minutes(changeable)). and a comand for making a secure area (like preston)
around the bot ..with a warning.
2.Change all the world features. (especialy the welcoem message so i could
out line breaks and tabs in them)
3.Help people like when they say "help the bot replys with sunbjects and
basicly helps out new users(like a custums aid)
4.Change backdrops and colors at specific time intervas or acording to the
VRT time. (as an option...or do it manually)
5.Count world objects and put them on a sign. automaticly update it at
specific intervals.
6. Be able to move like Xelagot when you say follow me, goto $person, come
here, teleport to, etc. so you can put them where you want without having to
chnagea script and rerun it.
7. Keep track of visitors and maybe display the number of users in a world
(ex. by a command)
8. Whatevr else you can think of having to do with making World mangement
easier.

GameHoster
1.Run diferent types of game in one bot. ex. chess AND checkers with only
one bot.

*Note i dont know if these bots are possible but if it is it would be nice.
I need to run way more thne 3 bots to do evrything i need in my world.
Question: Any way to updarade that or get an extension?
* WorldManBot: you dont have to include evreything if its not possible but
i'd like to have one bot run my world and be a customs aid/helper bot. Try
to innlude anything else you can think of and but it under one bot.

These are just ideas that i really need for my world and other people
might like it. ANyone cn build one (not just who i replied this to) If you
end up making any of these bots tell the url on this NG. Thanks

Brandon
(really tired from all this typing but its worth it :)
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andras

Feb 21, 2001, 3:17pm
[View Quote] Sure - check out http://www.fbi.org

Andras

lanezeri

Feb 21, 2001, 6:54pm
Ok.. XelaG is a whole lot more talented that me.. he also wrote XelaG in
Delphi (I think) It would take years to make a bot that reads text scripts..
literally.. years.. unless someone very talented made it..

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tony56

Feb 21, 2001, 9:03pm
Yes, the Xelagot is Delphi. And it wouldn't take YEARS, just a couple of
weeks. I can probably do it.

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grimble

Feb 22, 2001, 12:44am
Wow ... two massive extremes, but I think you're both a bit off.

I would take a couple of weeks just to plan it properly and design how it is
going to hang together if you are going to approach it properly. You have to
prove to yourself that you've got the right idea and that it can do
everything you hope it will before you go ahead.

You've got to bear in mind that Xelag has developed the Xelagot over time,
learning from his experiences. Too many people think all this stuff is real
easy and that you can just plough into these things, but I'm sure that Xelag
wen't through a number iterations of his bots before it reached the stage it
is now.

You are talking about potentially defining a new scripting language to suit
bots, and then writing the parser that has to validate EVERYTHING. And that
is without the implementation of the new script into actual function. Then
there's testing and documentation before you can even release it to the
public (unless you want to look a bit silly) for them to find the
"glitches".

Even if you've got all day, every day to work on it ... you're still talking
a number of long weeks to achieve this ... like I said ... IF you are going
to do it properly.

Grims

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nova n@n.com

Feb 25, 2001, 11:55pm
How bout a bot that can be run off a server that has a client interface that
you can use to access difrent logs ie chat log visitor log and also allow
you chat through the bot or make a bot that is a server that a client can
log in to .
The client should be as small as possible say be able to fit on a floppy and
be run from a floppy if need be???
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lanezeri

Feb 26, 2001, 12:07am
Impossible.. nothing like that could I make to fit on a floppy..

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ananas

Feb 26, 2001, 1:12am
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I will send you an empty CDRW if you make a house cleaner bot

lanezeri schrieb:
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> Impossible.. nothing like that could I make to fit on a floppy..
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lanezeri

Feb 26, 2001, 1:16am
LOL

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nova n@n.com

Feb 26, 2001, 10:50am
why couldnt the client portion fit on a floppy?
im not talking extreamly advanced feature in the client mainly a chat
interface a simple one at that,a way to get at the logs iechat and entry and
if theres enough room simple wolrd admin stuff ie entry build bot rights no
real advanced world admin ie lights fog etc.
o yeh one other feture that would be needed for the client would be
ejections.
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andras

Feb 26, 2001, 1:14pm
[View Quote] Each of my bot would fit onto a floppy (and they are not "greeting" bots :)

Andras

grimble

Feb 26, 2001, 1:49pm
lanezeri ... time to stop using VB. A simple app with a form in C/C++
doesn't use anywhere near the amount of space VB does. Having said that,
you're right .. if you're using VB, you ain't going to get the setup on a
3.5" diskette.

Grims


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rolu

Feb 26, 2001, 1:58pm
[View Quote] If so, you make awfully bloated programs.

rolu

grimble

Feb 26, 2001, 2:13pm
There's a java wrapper to the SDK that claims to allow bots to run as
servlets ... can't get much more "server based/thin-client" than that(!).
Never got around to trying it out though ...

Has anyone had any success with it?

http://www.insead.fr/CALT/Project/AWJavaBots/

Grims.


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lanezeri

Feb 26, 2001, 3:32pm
But see.. you don't understand Grimble.. I use VB because I don't have the
time to waste making 500 lines of code.. just to log the bot in.. I refuse
to use anything other than VB because..

1) VB is the easiest and fastest way to make a bot
2) C++ is for games not applications, AW was made in C++ it is a game..
applications are made mostly in VB unless they are huge like AOL.

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Feb 26, 2001, 4:38pm
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LOL

lanezeri schrieb:
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> 2) C++ is for games not applications, AW was made in C++ it is a game..
> applications are made mostly in VB unless they are huge like AOL.
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lanezeri

Feb 26, 2001, 4:55pm
Didn't find it funny myself.. why would u waste hours to code a simple bot?

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andras

Feb 26, 2001, 5:21pm
The pro was spoken :)


LOL LOL LOL

Andras


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grimble

Feb 26, 2001, 5:23pm
Umm... you do like to go out on limbs, don't you lanezeri?


> I use VB because I don't have the time to waste making 500 lines of code..
just to log the bot in.

Have a look at the sample bot programs on the SDK web-site (written in C)
and reconsider this statement. You'll notice a marked similarity to the
interface to the AwSdkOcx2 control (except those quickstart/quickstop calls
for the sake of 12 lines which you would only need to write once anyway in a
function).


> 2) C++ is for games not applications, AW was made in C++ it is a game..
> applications are made mostly in VB unless they are huge like AOL.

Wow ... Nice one. OK, this is the limb I was talking about. I won't go into
detail, but you probably couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Exactly how
many serious pieces of software do you know of that are written in VB? What
a bizarre statement to make! ... amusing, but bizarre. C and C++ have been
the languages of choice for professional and casual software developers for
YEARS.


Grims.

lanezeri

Feb 26, 2001, 6:05pm
More programs are made in VB than C or C++ bud.. If you learn to read I said
"Unless they are huge like AOL" Adobe was made in C++ and Macromedia, and
most every BIG program.. but simple programs such as bots should be made in
VB.. and if you have a problem with VB then talk to Microsoft cuz.. I didn't
make it.. if it can program.. I will use it.. until u make a better one dont
bitch..

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lanezeri

Feb 26, 2001, 6:13pm
Again.. as I stated in the Community NG.. why does everyone need to prove
they are better than me? I could care less who is better.. would you people
like me to code in C++ instead? Would it make your people's life a whole
lot easier if I did? Why not tell Brant, 00RUSS, and Builderz to stop
coding in VB too.. I can bet they know C++ or C or Delphi or Java too..
BUT.. they prolly choose VB because it is so simple.. see.. you all dont
realize.. your not as smart as you say you are.. think before you speak.. it
helps a lot..

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rolu

Feb 26, 2001, 6:13pm
[View Quote] erm? what? you mean you weren't joking in that other post? Muahahahahaha!!!
Dream on. VB is used only by a bunch of Windows hobbyists. It's also really
bad for your coding style. But it's easy to learn.

And most programs are made in some kind of C.

> If you learn to read I said
> "Unless they are huge like AOL"

AOL is not a program. It's a company.

> Adobe was made in C++

Adobe isn't a program either.

> and Macromedia, and
> most every BIG program.. but simple programs such as bots should be made
in
> VB..

Simple programs should be made in the language the programmer is most
familiar with.

> and if you have a problem with VB then talk to Microsoft cuz.. I didn't
> make it.. if it can program.. I will use it.. until u make a better one
dont
> bitch..

what about Delphi? You can program with it either. There are many languages
and implementations of them out there. You can pick the one you like, but
don't try to force them onto anybody else.

rolu

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