The Cys Can No Longer Exist (Community)

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alphabit phalpha

Mar 12, 2005, 12:37pm
Hey Everyone,

Since our post yesterday, Lady TeaL and I have received an onslaught of
negative telegrams regarding the Cys.

The Cys have always been a positive thing for the Community, yet are now
turning VERY negative on it's departure.

The Cys (as The Cys) should and can NOT continue to exist.

I have received numerous emails of folks interested in taking them over, but
I feel if anyone wants to organize an awards event, it can not be called the
Cys.

I personally own the Cys, and will be making it a historical rememberance,
thus they cannot continue.

Please refrain from telegrams any longer to Lady TeaL and myself.

Use all that energy to create something new!:)

We have been accused in grams of failing, and by gosh that hurts not only
our feelings but also our reputation.

PLEASE, let's exit on a positive not?

The Cys are now a memory as of my post yesterday.

Thank you all for understanding this post.

Those of you doing the negative (and you know who you are:)...please cease.
Thank you:)

AlphaBit Phalpha

strike rapier

Mar 12, 2005, 1:36pm
How dare you claim that you own the CY Awards, you were their main
representative, you cannot own a community activity unless you are every
single aspect of it, and you are being thick headed and arrogant to think
you have the right to destroy a huge portion of this community at your whim.

I have seen thousands of hours be spent on the CY awards by hundreds of
people and you are now saying you reserve the right to terminate them as you
wish? That is an unrespectable, offensive and utterly arrogant descision,
hell lets all remember the CY Awards as ending on one persons whim because
they had a problem letting anyone else take over, even when they chose that
person themself. Hell while we are at it lets take all the statues and
rename them alphabit awards, one person, nomatter how good, isnt a community
so if you own them the very principle that its a community award is
bullshi*t.

If its turned negative its because YOU have made them negative.

You remember that.

Consider your legacy, as of this post, destroyed.

- MR





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matt888

Mar 12, 2005, 1:53pm
This is absolutly crazy. AlphaBit Phalpha isn't even supposed to be running
the Cys anymore and now she is shutting them down? I think thats a very
greedy act on her part. 1 person can't speak for a full community, you
don't own the CYs at all! Nobody owns the CYs and nobody deserves the right
to shut them down. I am very disappointed in you, Alpha.. I thought you
were more then this.

-Matt

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alphabit phalpha

Mar 12, 2005, 2:18pm
Ummmm Strike.
If you want to email JP and ask if I own them that is fine.
JP gave them to me.
I chose to continue with them spending hours along with other folks to make
them happen.
What I am hearing is that the Cys are becoming a battlefield of ownership.
This unfortunately can have no happy ending.
You just aren't thinking of the possibilities here.
If JP deems anyone ownership that is fine with me, but I will have to hear
from JP personally that he choses to do so.
Until then the Cys are considered a historical event that exists as memories
now.
I sincerely wish you all the luck in the world at beginning a new event.

Sincerely,

AlphaBit Phalpha


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alphabit phalpha

Mar 12, 2005, 2:20pm
Matt....I owned them from day one and continue to do so.
Until they are put to rest, they exist as mine.
If it's a greedy act that I saw that they continued for 7 years then saw
their demise then that's your opinion.
Sorry I have dissappointed you and others.
Bit


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color

Mar 12, 2005, 2:25pm
AlphaBit Phalpa,

Thank you for your Award Program through the years. I hate to see it go. So
many people wished to win one and enjoyed the activity. This program brought a
real sense of community to Activeworlds. It inspired creativity and promoted
quality developments in all aspect of virtual life and program development.

If it were possible it would be great for you to continue your Award
Program. There certainly is a lot of feeling for the Cys, from kids growing up
on AW dreaming to win one some day, to the dedicated artist working hard to
achieve a level worthy of recognition. Your Cy Awards have touched everyone.

I can understand your decision to not pass along the CY Award program, so
that you maintain its history. This way you retain its past, yet inspire
citizens to develop future Award programs with their own names.

Ideally it would be great if a way could be found for you to continue the CY
Awards yourself. I wish there was a way to do so. There sure is a lot of concern
and care for them.

Thank You,
CoLor





[View Quote] > Hey Everyone,
>
> Since our post yesterday, Lady TeaL and I have received an onslaught of
> negative telegrams regarding the Cys.
>
> The Cys have always been a positive thing for the Community, yet are now
> turning VERY negative on it's departure.
>
> The Cys (as The Cys) should and can NOT continue to exist.
>
> I have received numerous emails of folks interested in taking them over, but
> I feel if anyone wants to organize an awards event, it can not be called the
> Cys.
>
> I personally own the Cys, and will be making it a historical rememberance,
> thus they cannot continue.
>
> Please refrain from telegrams any longer to Lady TeaL and myself.
>
> Use all that energy to create something new!:)
>
> We have been accused in grams of failing, and by gosh that hurts not only
> our feelings but also our reputation.
>
> PLEASE, let's exit on a positive not?
>
> The Cys are now a memory as of my post yesterday.
>
> Thank you all for understanding this post.
>
> Those of you doing the negative (and you know who you are:)...please cease.
> Thank you:)
>
> AlphaBit Phalpha

strike rapier

Mar 12, 2005, 2:46pm
Well... on behalf of everyone that has been screwed by this, and all of
those people who have come to me saying how the termination of CY's will
extensivly damage this community - I would like to take this opportunity, to
award Alphabit Phalpha with the award for:

~~ Community Destruction, 2005 ~~

Congratulations! :) Commiserations to everyone else who ever put their time
into these events to see the legacy you built wiped out at the push of a
key.

.... now in closing of this award ceromony... I will end, with a quote, from
the CY Awards website...

-------------------------------
We wish to also thank AWCom, Inc.
and their staff
for initially creating
The Cy Awards,
and contributing all that is necessary for us to continue this Community
event.
-------------------------------

Thankyou for comi... wait... wait... this says AWI created the CY Awards???
Even before JP became community liasons... dear god what will the lawyers
say!

- Mark R
As usual I have more information than I should have, I am sure at some point
you may share it with the rest of the community and let them in on the real
situation.


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orb

Mar 12, 2005, 3:00pm
Ohhhhh Bitty, Speaking with thou forked tongue.. Congratualtions on Your
Commi award!!! WTG Bitmeister !

bro

Mar 12, 2005, 3:13pm
Bit said :"I personally own the Cys, and will be making it a historical
remembrance, thus they cannot continue."

Normally I refrain from remarks on subjects that mean nothing to me, I
will make exception in this on case. Bit you can't have it both
ways, it has always been just yours or belongs to the community. Do
you have a copy right on the name CY anyway?

I like to think people build for the joy of building and not an
award buit for those that do like to do that just who did CY belong
to anyway? Good time to come clean was it always just yours or did
belong to all of AW?

Can we still use CY AV ?

vera

Mar 12, 2005, 4:02pm
Ok....let's see......typonese translator on hands please.....Here i go........
#1 For the guys that are saying that AW needs to renew everything.....now is
time for them to take charge and create a new Awards program........#2 I would
like to ask the ones that are already bad mouthing Bits to put themselfs on her
place for 1 sec. and realize that what she did for the past 7 years was really a
GREAT GREAT job.....And at least say thanks to her for pull all of us together
once a years and work for an ideal......#3 I dont care who owns the CY.....All I
care is for ppl to keeped together....our community is very small for all these
greed....Hugs you all.....And if any of you need help let me know:)))))...close
typonese translators please:)

[View Quote] > Hey Everyone,
>
> Since our post yesterday, Lady TeaL and I have received an onslaught of
> negative telegrams regarding the Cys.
>
> The Cys have always been a positive thing for the Community, yet are now
> turning VERY negative on it's departure.
>
> The Cys (as The Cys) should and can NOT continue to exist.
>
> I have received numerous emails of folks interested in taking them over, but
> I feel if anyone wants to organize an awards event, it can not be called the
> Cys.
>
> I personally own the Cys, and will be making it a historical rememberance,
> thus they cannot continue.
>
> Please refrain from telegrams any longer to Lady TeaL and myself.
>
> Use all that energy to create something new!:)
>
> We have been accused in grams of failing, and by gosh that hurts not only
> our feelings but also our reputation.
>
> PLEASE, let's exit on a positive not?
>
> The Cys are now a memory as of my post yesterday.
>
> Thank you all for understanding this post.
>
> Those of you doing the negative (and you know who you are:)...please cease.
> Thank you:)
>
> AlphaBit Phalpha

dmc2u

Mar 12, 2005, 5:11pm
I am very saddened by this news..
Bev, I know you've always done a great job on the CY's and it was a pleasure
working with all of the people involved with the CY's
They will truely be missed .

Doug / DMC2U


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orb

Mar 12, 2005, 5:43pm
How "great" does this sound ?

" There is no way Lady TeaL could possibly do all that is needed to see
the Cys through with no training etc. She's fantastic, but not superwoman:)"
(quote taken from the horses mouth itself).

Haha...Bitster nice job on that cape! 'pukes'

The dreaded phone thing has gone out with a big bang !

garnet

Mar 12, 2005, 9:54pm
Hello Bit, I too am saddened by this news. I do however think I understand
why.. Im think maybe it feels to you like you are passing on a bit of
yourself ? You have worked so hard over the years to make this award what it
is. I think having the name CY Award was a very clever play on words.. and I
think that discovering a new name for a new award could in itself be a
contest! I think that instead of fighting you on this that maybe those
concerned could be planning a contest to see what the new award will be
named.. and what the new Trophy will look like! anyway..Bit.. a big thanks
and huggss for all you have done over the years.. and I wish you well.. and
I wish the people concerned will think about holding a contest for a new
name and Trophy design!!! I bet there are lots of ideas out there!!! :) my
2 cents worth :)
Garnet


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xelag

Mar 12, 2005, 10:55pm
Dear AlphaBit Phalpha,

Some people think that because they have enjoyed something, this
something is theirs. Something similar was starting to happen with the
AVVY Awards. My team and those who own the awards name (DigitalSpace
and Contact Consortium) decided to suspend these awards for various
reasons which are here irrelevant; whether this is a permanent
decision or not is still to be seen.

No-one is entitled to take over somebody else's project without their
consent. All these negative vibes - telegrams, emails, newsgroup
postings - about your decision to stop the CY Awards simply confirm
that there is a profound lack of respect for other people's work (one
of the reasons, by the way, the AVVYs were suspended).

I'm sorry to hear the CY's are gone, but so is life. They have served
their purpose well. New projects will come, if there is enough
initiative and fresh sporting spirit.

I would like to thank you, and I'm sure the whole DigitalSpace team
agrees with me, for all the efforts and dedication you and your team
have done all these years to provide us with this worderfull event.
May your spirit of dedication inspire others to start their own
projects for the community.

Thanks a lot!

Alex

On 12 Mar 2005 09:37:36 -0500, "AlphaBit Phalpha"
[View Quote] >Hey Everyone,
>
>Since our post yesterday, Lady TeaL and I have received an onslaught of
>negative telegrams regarding the Cys.
>
>The Cys have always been a positive thing for the Community, yet are now
>turning VERY negative on it's departure.
>
>The Cys (as The Cys) should and can NOT continue to exist.
>
>I have received numerous emails of folks interested in taking them over, but
>I feel if anyone wants to organize an awards event, it can not be called the
>Cys.
>
>I personally own the Cys, and will be making it a historical rememberance,
>thus they cannot continue.
>
>Please refrain from telegrams any longer to Lady TeaL and myself.
>
>Use all that energy to create something new!:)
>
>We have been accused in grams of failing, and by gosh that hurts not only
>our feelings but also our reputation.
>
>PLEASE, let's exit on a positive not?
>
>The Cys are now a memory as of my post yesterday.
>
>Thank you all for understanding this post.
>
>Those of you doing the negative (and you know who you are:)...please cease.
>Thank you:)
>
>AlphaBit Phalpha
>
>

tauntaun

Mar 12, 2005, 11:41pm
I am very surprised to be ever hearing something like this. That the
CyAwards ever could belong to an individual. The CyAwards have always been
about the 'CommunitY', and rightfully belong to the community. The
community has always been the one to vote, to nominate, and to work to make
the Cys possible. How can you so easily forget all the members of the Cy
team that you have worked so hard to thank?

However, I do agree the Cys can no longer exist. So far most of the
responses seem to be wanting to keep the Cys up, want to for personnal gain,
and the sense of what community is is very blurred. Community will always
exist, but not necissarily in the way people want it to be. I know SWCity
seems to be interested in creating a replacement for the Cys and quite
frankly I find the idea revolting, as it would most definitly limit and deny
the awards to be something for the entire community. From what I have seen,
the only people that could replace AlphaBit Phalpha have left the community,
with the exception of Elyk who is much to busy as is. If someone can clone
Elyk, let me know... it would be much appreciated.

In the truest essence, the Cy Awards represents the community, and it
doesn't really matter if you win or lose, yet rather you become part of this
force that has driven people to magnificant pieces of art and selflessness
for so long. The heart of the community indeed lays within the CyAwards and
what it represents. It doesn't belong to anyone, and should NEVER be
associated with a single user or corperation. I feel shamed to ever hear
the day when such association would be made.

Or have the Cys I remember from the past died long ago?

-Tauntaun

sw chris

Mar 13, 2005, 2:59am
SW City is not some snobbish enclave. X_X I hope you weren't implying
that.

Chris

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sw chris

Mar 13, 2005, 3:03am
Furthermore, you haven't even seen the details yet! Things have changed a
bit since the initial postings in the forum. The committee system is off
the drawing board. :) Revolting... my foot. We hope to be able to work
with strike sometime in the future.

Chris

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ferruccio

Mar 13, 2005, 3:30am
I have a very hard time figuring out why you would disallow the community to
continue the CY awards. To do so implies that somehow you want people to
automatically think about you when they think about the CY awards. What's
going on here? I think they should remember the community when they think
about the CY awards, and should have the complete rights to continue the
awards as they see fit. I find it selfish that you wish to prevent the
community to try to continue something in Active Worlds that has been going
on for years. Is this "progress" to quarantine something that the community
cherishes? It's one of the last binding things that this community has.

Please tell me that I am not seeing a darker side of you right now, Bit,
because that is what I am seeing right now.

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ferruccio

Mar 13, 2005, 4:36am
What do you hope to gain out of preventing the community from continuing a
long-standing tradition?

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c p

Mar 13, 2005, 1:28pm
Yeah matty listen to phal, she is my godess :) *huggles*

strike rapier

Mar 13, 2005, 2:13pm
>_< From day one, there has been no dispute, whatsoever - Lady Teal would
>remain the CY manager, and yes, she is fantastic, just like Alphabit was in
>her effort for the CY's in times gone past...

But look at what we are putting together for that, a team thats unrivaled,
with more project experience between them than any one person could ever
match, Alphabit lacked any faith at all that Teal, and the rest of us could
pull it off without being Alphabit clones, but thats not the case.

The CY's have been tremendously damaged by what happened, and I hope if I
talk to JP during the week we can get something sorted out.

- MR

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linn

Mar 22, 2005, 8:32am
simple truth is the awards were corrupted by bit and her "army" and now that
a great number of ppl KNOW what it was about, just do NOT want to be part of
that sort of thing.


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