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Help Tech's of ActiveWorld Please ;) // Community

lady teal

Nov 7, 2004, 3:24am

Hello Everyone,
I'm having problems with my AW Screen melting, all the colors running
together. When it happens I have to close out of AW. My video graphic's mode
is on Direct 3D. I have a great video card. Could someone please help Me.
Thank You
Lady TeaL

ferruccio

Nov 7, 2004, 4:00am

Could you please be more specific on what exactly you are seeing? Also
please mention what type of video card you use, and what other 3d programs
you use.

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lady teal

Nov 7, 2004, 4:34am

Hello,
I don't know what kind of video card I have, but it's a new computer I
have it about 3 months. They said it was a great video card, that all I
know. I do have to find out what kind I have. AW is the only 3D program I
run.
My problem is I will be in AW then all of a sudden the screen changes to
all these colors, it's like all the objects are melted together. I hope that
explains it better.
Hugz
Lady TeaL
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samuel ml lison

Nov 7, 2004, 4:52am

[View Quote] You should know what type of video card you have. A computer sales
person telling you not to worry, the computer has a great video card
doesn't mean a thing.

Perhaps take a screenshot, if you know how and upload the picture to a
server, and link us to the picture, so we can see.

It may also be wise to download the latest video drivers for your card,
but then, you don't know what type of card you have, so we can not help
you further in finding the latest drivers.

Even easier for you perhaps is for you to tell us what brand of graphics
card it is? An ATi card or a GeForce card? Anything come to mind?

Yours Sincerely,
Samuël ML Lison

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ferruccio

Nov 7, 2004, 5:31am

Right-click your desktop, select "properties" then select the "settings"
tab. Right under the dark grey box with a large and small box in it, you
will see a narrow white box. (it might also be an option-type box with an
arrow on the side.) Tell me what it says in that white box.
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goddess of light

Nov 7, 2004, 6:06am

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lady teal wrote:
> Hello,
> I don't know what kind of video card I have, but it's a new computer I
> have it about 3 months. They said it was a great video card, that all I
> know. I do have to find out what kind I have. AW is the only 3D program I
> run.
> My problem is I will be in AW then all of a sudden the screen changes to
> all these colors, it's like all the objects are melted together. I hope that
> explains it better.
> Hugz
> Lady TeaL
> "ferruccio" <startrek3 at earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:418dc811 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
> Me.
>
>
>
Ok tip to see www.belarc.com and get the Belarc Adviser load it and run
it it will open up on your Browser and scroll to where you see Video or
Display it will tell you there. Also needs a bit more information like
is the Video Card an On Board Card or in a Card Slot if you have the
manuals for the system I would suggest you take a peruse over them and
see. This can give you a bit more info. I will say I have seem others
use a new system and only to find out the Video Card is integrated into
the Main System Board and then they find they have a whole 4 to 12MB of
RAM allocated or Shared from the System Ram. Also if this is the case,
then Suggests a new Video Card and go to the place you bought it and
tell them they took you for a ride saying it was a great video card.
Sure an Integrated 4X AGP card is great but then with only 4 to 12MB of
RAM for it it really is not all that good. Also find out if you have a
Free AGP slot and what it's rating is so that you can determine what
kind of Video Card you will be needing. AGP2X is ok and that is what I
have albeit slow at times, a 4X card is pretty good and the 8X is best.
The Main system Board book should give you all this information, if it
does not then go to the place you purchased it and ask them for any
documentation on the system you purchased otherwise you want your money
back and then I would suggest Tiger Direct for some pretty good PC Deals
and before you give it up go to www.tigerdirect.com and then get the
number off the site and call and talk with them about a build to suit
needs system. hope this helps you out, and BTW glad you are now the Cy
co ordination person, Wtg.

lady teal

Nov 7, 2004, 6:12am

Hello,
I have updated my drivers on my video card, but now the screen stays
messed up!! It won't load at all now. I can't see any objects at all now,
it's just a bunch of colors mixed together on the screen. I also did what
you ask ferruccio, The box is <Highest 32bits>.
Thanks Again
Lady TeaL
for<news at dreamcities.net>
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sw chris

Nov 7, 2004, 6:15am

Do that again, and tell us what's under the "Display" heading. You told us
what was in "color quality", but we're looking for what's in the Display
box.

Chris

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lady teal

Nov 7, 2004, 6:26am

Display Box reads: Intel{R} 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller
[View Quote]

sw comit

Nov 7, 2004, 6:38am

Ick. Hate to sidetrack your thread but that's an onboard graphic chip, by
no means a "great graphic card". It's about as bare minimum as you can get
=0 Lousy salesman...

As for your display problems...hard to suggest a whole lot with an Intel
chip. Perhaps you should try using OpenGL rendering instead. It might even
be better for your computer (seems to be for a lot of folks).

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lady teal

Nov 7, 2004, 6:47am

That's about right :( I guess I better go get another one. What's your take
on a new one?
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sw comit

Nov 7, 2004, 6:56am

See the thread a few posts down called "off topic..."
I just made a post there, but to save you the trouble it basically points to
this: http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/images/image002.gif

Its an image showing the rough performance numbers of the cards out there.
It varies from test to test (that's just one of many), but not by much, so
it gives you a general idea. Just do whatever fits your budget. Personally
I use a Radeon 9800SE. It's not on that chart but its equivalent to a
Radeon 9600 Pro. It runs AW plenty fast.

If you don't have a problem buying over the internet I recommend
www.newegg.com

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lady teal

Nov 7, 2004, 7:00am

Thanks :).
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lady nighthawk

Nov 7, 2004, 9:33am

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If I were you I'd take your *new computer* back before it's too late. =
Tell the manager of the store that the salesperson doesn't know his a$$ =
from a hole in the ground and that you are NOT a happy customer. You =
want proper service ... get me the RIGHT computer or I go elsewhere. You =
should not be looking for a new graphics card on a new computer. That is =
just not right. Lady ... don't settle for less on this.=20

On another note, I've been having similar issues and they are relatively =
recent. My computer is not quite 2 yrs old, the company I bought it from =
online is defunct, gone, caput. My graphics card is GEforce4 TI 4200 =
with AGP8X with it's own 128 Mb of RAM and computer is hyperthreading =
enabled. It's not even listed on that gif so not sure where I stand. My =
computer was fine up until our last move. I suppose I need to get inside =
the box and blow out some dust / dog hair for one. And it may be one or =
both of my RAM are going south. I run aw in DirectX with T&L checked =
(video settings). I've also been having recent spontanous reboots and =
just plain freeze ups (no, not virus or worms, I'm on top of that).=20

I have updated my graphics card which of course caused *other issues*, =
for one I had to up my computer's refresh rate to the max my display =
would allow to alleviate some wicked flickering. I still have a small =
issue of my mouse's cursor box showing in any OpenGL program I may be =
running. In other 3D programs like accutrans or modeler the computer may =
work fine for awhile then freeze up solid and I have to turn off/on the =
power to get it going again :o/ I have yet to update MS to SP2 because =
of these issues ... that just might be the last straw.=20

I may have to go into the box and take out all the cards and *reseat* =
them. It could be low power, it could be one or both fans going =
(although the computer runs at about 28 - 32 C), or worse one of the RAM =
sticks or both :o/, it could be something's not plugged in correctly, it =
could be the mobo (motherboard) is failing ... it could be a number of =
things. Just yesterday I had my little electric heater on, had turned it =
off, accidentally ever so slightly bumped it into the computer ... =
whammo ... spontaneous reboot ... which I think was due to static =
electricity. At least my computer is 2 yrs old so no surprise if =
something is going on it. But it's a nightmare trying to figure out =
what. It may actually be time for a new computer soon because the =
expense to swap out parts may come to the same amount as buying a new =
one. Computers are outdated within 6 months of purchase is the general =
rule of thumb so getting one that's top of the line for 3D stuff now is =
your best bet.=20

Please, take my advice ... return it and get another one stoked for 3D =
gaming and graphics! Take it upon yourself to get informed on graphics =
cards, RAM sticks and anything else you may need to know. Do yer =
homework ...=20

Good luck to ya hun!

Lady NightHawk

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<DIV>If I were you I'd take your *new =
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know his a$$ from a hole in the ground and that you are NOT a happy =
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similar issues=20
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that gif=20
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move. I=20
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for one.=20
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with=20
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spontanous=20
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that).=20
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have updated my graphics card which =
of course=20
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the max=20
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a small=20
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<DIV> </DIV>
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out all the=20
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fans=20
going (although the computer runs at about 28 - 32 C), or worse one of =
the RAM=20
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could=20
be the mobo (motherboard) is failing ... it could be a number of things. =
Just=20
yesterday I had my little electric heater on, had turned it off, =
accidentally=20
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reboot=20
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purchase=20
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3D stuff=20
now is your best bet. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Please, take my advice ... return it =
and get=20
another one stoked for 3D gaming and graphics! Take it upon yourself to =
get=20
informed on graphics cards, RAM sticks and anything else you may need to =
know.=20
Do yer homework ... </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Good luck to ya hun!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Lady NightHawk</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> --  </DIV>
<DIV>"lady teal" <<A=20
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message <A =
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:). > "sw comit" <<A =
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wrote in message > <A=20
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topic..." > > I just made a post there, but to save you the =
trouble it=20
basically points > to > > this: > <A=20
href=3D"http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/images/image002=
..gif"><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/images/image00=
2.gif</A> <FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>> > > > Its an image showing the =
rough=20
performance numbers of the cards out there. > > It varies from =
test to=20
test (that's just one of many), but not by much, so > > it =
gives you a=20
general idea.  Just do whatever fits your budget. >=20
Personally > > I use a Radeon 9800SE.  It's not on that =
chart but=20
its equivalent to a > > Radeon 9600 Pro.  It runs AW =
plenty=20
fast. > > > > If you don't have a problem buying over =
the=20
internet I recommend > > <A =
href=3D"http://www.newegg.com"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>www.newegg.com</A> >=20
> > > > > "lady teal" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:LadyTeaL at Cox-internet.com">LadyTeaL at Cox-internet.com</A>> wrote in=20
message > > <A=20
href=3D"news:418def1d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:418def1d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com</A>... > > > That's about right :( I guess I better go =
get=20
another one. What's your > > > take > > > on a =
new=20
one? > > > "sw comit" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:swcomit at swcity.net">swcomit at swcity.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message > > > <A=20
href=3D"news:418ded26$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:418ded26$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com</A>... > > >> Ick.  Hate to sidetrack your =
thread but=20
that's an onboard graphic chip, > > >> by > > =
>>=20
no means a "great graphic card".  It's about as bare minimum as you =

can > > > get > > >> =3D0  Lousy=20
salesman... > > >> > > >> As for your =
display=20
problems...hard to suggest a whole lot with an > Intel > =
>=20
>> chip.  Perhaps you should try using OpenGL rendering=20
instead.  It might > > > even > > >> be =
better=20
for your computer (seems to be for a lot of folks). > >=20
>> > > >> "lady teal" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:LadyTeaL at Cox-internet.com">LadyTeaL at Cox-internet.com</A>> wrote in=20
message > > >> <A=20
href=3D"news:418dea53$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:418dea53$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com</A>... > > >> > Display Box reads: Intel{R}=20
82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller > > >> > "sw =
chris"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:chrisw10 at njoproject.com">chrisw10 at njoproject.com</A>> wrote in=20
message > > >> > <A=20
href=3D"news:418de7c2$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:418de7c2$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com</A>... > > >> >> Do that again, and tell us =
what's=20
under the "Display" heading.  You > > > told > =
>=20
>> > us > > >> >> what was in "color =
quality", but=20
we're looking for what's in the > > > Display > > =
>>=20
>> box. > > >> >> > > >> =
>>=20
Chris > > >> >> > > >> >> =
"lady teal"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:LadyTeaL at Cox-internet.com">LadyTeaL at Cox-internet.com</A>> wrote in=20
message > > >> >> <A=20
href=3D"news:418de6f8$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:418de6f8$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com</A>... > > >> >> > Hello, > > =
>>=20
>> >  I have updated my drivers on my video card, but now =
the=20
screen > > >> >> > stays > > >> =
>>=20
> messed up!! It won't load at all now. I can't see any objects =
at >=20
all > > >> > now, > > >> >> > =
it's=20
just a bunch of colors mixed together on the screen. I also > =
did >=20
> >> > what > > >> >> > you ask =
ferruccio,=20
The box is <Highest 32bits>. > > >> >> > =
Thanks=20
Again > > >> >> > Lady TeaL > > =
>>=20
>> >  for<<A =
href=3D"mailto:news at dreamcities.net"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>news at dreamcities.net</A>> > > >> >> > "ferruccio" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:startrek3 at earthlink.net">startrek3 at earthlink.net</A>> wrote in=20
message > > >> >> > <A=20
href=3D"news:418ddd76$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:418ddd76$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com</A>... > > >> >> >> Right-click your =
desktop,=20
select "properties" then select the > > >> >=20
"settings" > > >> >> >> tab.  Right =
under the=20
dark grey box with a large and small box in > > > =
it, > >=20
>> > you > > >> >> >> will see a =
narrow=20
white box. (it might also be an option-type box > > > =
with >=20
> >> > an > > >> >> >> arrow on =
the=20
side.)  Tell me what it says in that white box. > > =
>>=20
>> >> "lady teal" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:LadyTeaL at Cox-internet.com">LadyTeaL at Cox-internet.com</A>> wrote in=20
message > > >> >> >> <A=20
href=3D"news:418dcfee$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:418dcfee$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com</A>... > > >> >> >> > Hello > =
>=20
>> >> >> > > >> >> =
>> > >=20
>> >> > > > >> >> > > > =
>>=20
>> > > >> >> > > >> =
> > >=20
>> > > > >> > > >> > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >=20
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lady nighthawk

Nov 7, 2004, 9:35am

hmmm, says there's an attachment ... I didn't include an attachment? don't
open it LOL

LNH

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[View Quote] On another note, I've been having similar issues and they are relatively
recent. My computer is not quite 2 yrs old, the company I bought it from
online is defunct, gone, caput. My graphics card is GEforce4 TI 4200 with
AGP8X with it's own 128 Mb of RAM and computer is hyperthreading enabled.
It's not even listed on that gif so not sure where I stand. My computer was
fine up until our last move. I suppose I need to get inside the box and blow
out some dust / dog hair for one. And it may be one or both of my RAM are
going south. I run aw in DirectX with T&L checked (video settings). I've
also been having recent spontanous reboots and just plain freeze ups (no,
not virus or worms, I'm on top of that).

I have updated my graphics card which of course caused *other issues*, for
one I had to up my computer's refresh rate to the max my display would allow
to alleviate some wicked flickering. I still have a small issue of my
mouse's cursor box showing in any OpenGL program I may be running. In other
3D programs like accutrans or modeler the computer may work fine for awhile
then freeze up solid and I have to turn off/on the power to get it going
again :o/ I have yet to update MS to SP2 because of these issues ... that
just might be the last straw.

I may have to go into the box and take out all the cards and *reseat* them.
It could be low power, it could be one or both fans going (although the
computer runs at about 28 - 32 C), or worse one of the RAM sticks or both
:o/, it could be something's not plugged in correctly, it could be the mobo
(motherboard) is failing ... it could be a number of things. Just yesterday
I had my little electric heater on, had turned it off, accidentally ever so
slightly bumped it into the computer ... whammo ... spontaneous reboot ...
which I think was due to static electricity. At least my computer is 2 yrs
old so no surprise if something is going on it. But it's a nightmare trying
to figure out what. It may actually be time for a new computer soon because
the expense to swap out parts may come to the same amount as buying a new
one. Computers are outdated within 6 months of purchase is the general rule
of thumb so getting one that's top of the line for 3D stuff now is your best
bet.

Please, take my advice ... return it and get another one stoked for 3D
gaming and graphics! Take it upon yourself to get informed on graphics
cards, RAM sticks and anything else you may need to know. Do yer homework
....

Good luck to ya hun!

Lady NightHawk

--

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lady nighthawk

Nov 7, 2004, 9:35am

test

andras

Nov 7, 2004, 10:34am

[View Quote] > hmmm, says there's an attachment ... I didn't include an attachment? don't
> open it LOL
>
> LNH
>

That was just the HTML part (you managed to respond in both ASCII and HTML :)

--
Andras
"It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)

zephos

Nov 7, 2004, 12:44pm

If you looking for a new pc might want to check out www.cyberpowersystem.com
.. Thats wherew I got my pc for cheap, got ATI Raedon 9600 XT card with 256
mb, runs great on aw as I have seen and nice benchmark. It cost a little
more than some of the raedon 9800, se, ez pro. But I would just recommend
you get a raedon 9800 pro with 128 mb, there really isn't that much need for
you to look for one with 256 mb memory. Link to the card is
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-286&depa=1
..
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ciena

Nov 7, 2004, 3:10pm

that happenes to mee too sometimes but only some terrain textures and nomads
terrain objects
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weebo

Nov 7, 2004, 3:16pm

Lady TeaL,
Let's back up a bit. If the problem only occurs in AW then let's take a look
at your browser settings on the video tab. If you have the T & L hardware
support toggled on, then let's take that off for now until you know your
card supports it, from what I have read in here, most likely no. Exit AW and
come back in. If the problem is still there then let's check your video
adaptor drivers, I think samuel suggested this already and if you did get
the correct drivers, let's do a direct x check on your computer. Go to the
start button, run, type in dxdiag and check what version you have. Let's
update that too if you are less 9.0c. You can find this on the Microsoft
pages. If this is a new computer, most likely there are some driver updates
that already need updated and hopefully is under warranty lol. Then come
back into aw then we can possibly look elsewhere if this doesn't do it.
Somebody else awhile back had a similiar problem and the Direct X update
seemed to correct the problem.
Have a Great Day,
Weebo

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sw comit

Nov 7, 2004, 4:56pm

Unless they give her a compensation discount for the salesman practically
lieing, a computer with a real graphic card is going to cost more...a lot
more considering it's retail and assembled. Get a price check of a new
graphic card you want to buy, and whatever the difference is in the price of
the new computer they offer you. They aren't hard to install. You can find
do-it-yourself instructions all over the place, some in video format even.

johnf

Nov 7, 2004, 7:20pm

Yeah, open - unscrew blanking plate - push in - screw in - close - boot -
install.

Lol!

John

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andras

Nov 7, 2004, 8:05pm

[View Quote] > Yeah, open - unscrew blanking plate - push in - screw in - close - boot -
> install.
>
> Lol!
>
>

I guess you need a reality check :(

--
Andras
"It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)

lightwave

Nov 7, 2004, 8:58pm

i was jus gona post that Belarc Advisor is great way to find out about your
computer
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
-LW

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johnf

Nov 8, 2004, 12:13pm

Uhh whats that supposed to mean Andras? Perhaps you don't have much luck
with installing hardware but I'm usually ok.

John

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lady teal

Nov 8, 2004, 12:42pm

Hello Everyone,
WhoooooooooHooooooooooo I got my problem fixed. My Direct X was an older
version I had 8.1. I updated to the 9.0 and I'm back up and running. I'm
still going to look into a new graphics card. I can't thank everyone enough
for helping me.
{{{{{{{Tight Hugz}}}}}}}

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e n z o

Nov 8, 2004, 2:31pm

Congrats! :)

You guys did a great job! Just as one more side note, with those onboard 3D
chips you might end up with some problems installing a new card (depending
on the make). Last upgrade I did from a onboard needed to have jumpers on
the motherboard set.

E

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sw comit

Nov 8, 2004, 5:22pm

Hmmm you saw its a new computer? Makes me wonder if it has Windows XP then.
Because if it does, then you should already have DX9 IF you've installed the
service packs. Sounds like you haven't. Might want to look into that. If
you press winkey (inbetween alt and ctrl) + pause (top right key), it'll
bring up some system specs which will tell you there.

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lady teal

Nov 8, 2004, 6:35pm

Hiya CW,
I do have XP, but I tried to install the service pack,but it wiped out my
computer! :( I'm a little bit gun shy on trying it again. Thanks ENZO I
will keep that in mind.
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kf

Nov 8, 2004, 10:15pm

Last upgrade I did from a onboard needed to have jumpers on
the motherboard set.
<<<

Was that like 1970? :-)

Normally you will find a simple BIOS option which switches the onboard
graphics on or off, the by far hardest part in installing a new graphic
card is to get rid of the old driver (most people do not switch to a
plain VGA driver prior to switching to a diffrent type of card).

What was not yet pointed out in this thread is that most mainboards sold
in the USA do not have a special graphic card slot called "AGP slot",
esepcially not when they have onboard graphics. Now, most graphic cards
of higher performance require this slot, but the entry models are mostly
available in a "PCI slot" version as well, which can be used in any
computer (PCI is the normal slot where you plug in network, sound, etc.
cards as well). Their performance is a bit weaker than that of AGP cards
and they are about 25-50% more expensive, but at least they save you
from having to replace your complete mainboard.

Avoid the NEW PCIe/PCIx slot mainboards, they will become standard in
1-2 years, but for now, the regular mainboards are better and more
compatible.

On the other hand, for those who have a lucky hand with computer
assembling (which is not hard at all anymore since today a computer
consists of around 6-7 parts only, 2 being a fan <g>), might pick some
of the less expensive motherboards with AGP slot (around 100$ and less)
- they usually serve well for all average useages.

:-)

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