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Jul 17, 2004, 10:15am

Posted in andras' newsgroup, with request to post here, so here goes:

Hi everyone:

Just downloaded ActiveWorlds 3.6 and noticed it now has a Windows
Media
feature built-in. ('bout time they started to support streaming media
within AW).

I've got a Drive-In theater build in Hamsterville which would benefit
IMMENSELY from this. Add this to my GROWING collection of classic
movies
which I downloaded from the Internet Archive, and people will be able
to
watch these movies (which are ROYALTY FREE I might add) at the
Drive-In.

My only question is this.

If someone doesn't have a web server or have the videos hosted
somewhere,
HOW will they be played? I can encode them into 100K Windows Media
videos
and store them in a directory. That's not the problem. What gets me
is HOW
will the Windows Media plugin at the end users' end be able to FIND
the
video if it's NOT stored on some web server someplace?

If ActiveWorlds were to support the new NSV format (that's streaming
video
for Winamp), this really wouldn't be much of a problem as I could just
simply run another instance of the SHOUTcast server by not publishing
the
stream in the Winamp TV Directory. I could use the city's website to
publicize the stream and direct people to the theater in order to
watch.
:-)

Hopefully someone from ActiveWorlds is reading this (ATTENTION
Mountain Myst
:-)). But since my cit is currently expired, I'll post the info on NSV here
(someone else PLEASE FEEL FREE to pass this onto the AW Community
newsgroup
:-)).

OFFICIAL NSV WEBSITE: http://www.nullsoft.com/nsv/

NSV RESOURCES & INFO: http://www.scvi.net/

NSV stands for Nullsoft Streaming Video. There's also an NSV forum on
the
Winamp website.

Anyhow...I believe I've covered all the bases on what I was gonna say.
:-)

Thoughts anyone?

Cheers for now :-)

PC Hamster
Mayor - City Of Hamsterville
pchamster at comcast.net
Denver, Colorado (my REAL city :-))
http://hamsterville.tripod.com/

Jul 17, 2004, 10:31am

I believe you can run a windows media server with wmv files, but I agree...
the winamp formatted streams are really good and it'd rock to see them
implemented into AW. I have no idea if anyone's come up with some sort of
codec so you can watch nsv in Windows Media Player, but I wouldn't doubt it.
:-p If that's the case, then you can run it. But the issue would be that
anyone you intend to be watching it would have to have the codec installed.

-D

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Jul 17, 2004, 1:10pm

Playlist support, NSV support, QuickTime support, and RealMedia support
(RealAudio and RealVideo) would be nice for AWI to add in the future.

If they added playlist support, people would be able to stream music
(not live music, though) just by making .m3u files and uploading MP3s
(or .ram files and RA files) to a standard Web server. No special
streaming server would be needed. Video, on the other hand, I'm not so
sure about.

As far as I can tell, you need to have at least Windows Media Server
2003 Standard Edition to be able to stream WMV files. I don't think it
can be done legally with the Web Edition and the only thing I could find
that works under Linux limits you to 100 streams and costs over $2,000
USD (which some Web hosts don't even make in one year). Here is the
link: http://www.realnetworks.com/products/discreteserver/index.html

Just a note: if you find someone in the AW community starting to offer
Windows Media streaming services for extremely cheap prices, they could
be a) using a warez (illegal) copy of Windows 2003 Server b) be on a
really crappy network that will skip and buffer a lot. So just be careful.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

[View Quote] > Posted in andras' newsgroup, with request to post here, so here goes:
>
> Hi everyone:
>
> Just downloaded ActiveWorlds 3.6 and noticed it now has a Windows
> Media
> feature built-in. ('bout time they started to support streaming media
> within AW).
>
> I've got a Drive-In theater build in Hamsterville which would benefit
> IMMENSELY from this. Add this to my GROWING collection of classic
> movies
> which I downloaded from the Internet Archive, and people will be able
> to
> watch these movies (which are ROYALTY FREE I might add) at the
> Drive-In.
>
> My only question is this.
>
> If someone doesn't have a web server or have the videos hosted
> somewhere,
> HOW will they be played? I can encode them into 100K Windows Media
> videos
> and store them in a directory. That's not the problem. What gets me
> is HOW
> will the Windows Media plugin at the end users' end be able to FIND
> the
> video if it's NOT stored on some web server someplace?
>
> If ActiveWorlds were to support the new NSV format (that's streaming
> video
> for Winamp), this really wouldn't be much of a problem as I could just
> simply run another instance of the SHOUTcast server by not publishing
> the
> stream in the Winamp TV Directory. I could use the city's website to
> publicize the stream and direct people to the theater in order to
> watch.
> :-)
>
> Hopefully someone from ActiveWorlds is reading this (ATTENTION
> Mountain Myst
> :-)). But since my cit is currently expired, I'll post the info on NSV here
> (someone else PLEASE FEEL FREE to pass this onto the AW Community
> newsgroup
> :-)).
>
> OFFICIAL NSV WEBSITE: http://www.nullsoft.com/nsv/
>
> NSV RESOURCES & INFO: http://www.scvi.net/
>
> NSV stands for Nullsoft Streaming Video. There's also an NSV forum on
> the
> Winamp website.
>
> Anyhow...I believe I've covered all the bases on what I was gonna say.
> :-)
>
> Thoughts anyone?
>
> Cheers for now :-)
>
> PC Hamster
> Mayor - City Of Hamsterville
> pchamster at comcast.net
> Denver, Colorado (my REAL city :-))
> http://hamsterville.tripod.com/

Jul 17, 2004, 1:36pm

<PC Hamster wrote>
> If ActiveWorlds were to support the new NSV format (that's streaming video
> for Winamp), this really wouldn't be much of a problem as I could just
> simply run another instance of the SHOUTcast server

Can you play NSV streams with Windows Media Player?
Or in Internet Explorer, with some ActiveX plug-in or like?
If not, then AWI might have to buy (?) code from Nullsoft.
Microsoft has made it easier to use IE and WMP calls in programs.

--
Mauz
http://mauz.info

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