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Christmas in Alphaworld... This year? // CommunityferruccioDec 3, 2003, 11:49pm
Every year AWI did something in Alphaworld to give it a christmas theme,
except for last year >,< do you think it could happen this year? simple things like a festive winter skybox and a snow ground, maybe decorate the GZ or something linn ironhead@digitalpassage(dot)comDec 4, 2003, 12:19am
c pDec 4, 2003, 12:42am
Correction Holiday spirit, i am christan and celebrate but, still others may
celebrate other thigns and its wrognful to say christmas specifically. Happy Kwanza! Merry christmas! Happy Chanuka(spelling) And what ever else [View Quote] linn ironhead@digitalpassage(dot)comDec 4, 2003, 1:04am
not if that's what I meant :-) no offence intended but it IS a Christmas
world just your choice if you want to see it or not :-) [View Quote] brockDec 4, 2003, 1:19am
We're talking about Holidays in AlphaWorld...not some other world.
-- Brock AW: 308723 Administrator IceFlare Starbeam Network [View Quote] ep0chDec 4, 2003, 3:26am
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<Offtopic> VWTV has also had a blizzard and is now snowified </Offtopic> </html> [View Quote] ferruccioDec 4, 2003, 4:23am
c p, shut up please. this time of year is focused around christmas, if you
are christian or not. it's just been commercialized so much that it becomes "holidays" as to not offend anyone by the mention of a christian tradition. (*gasp* we wouldn't want that!!!) anyway that's not the point. basically make AlphaWorld festive this december. [View Quote] sweet adoraDec 4, 2003, 4:42am
Such lovely people inhabit the world these days. If someone tries to do
something nice and display sensitivity and caring for others, then they are told to shut up. Lovely world we live in. [View Quote] > c p, shut up please. this time of year is focused around christmas, if you > are christian or not. it's just been commercialized so much that it becomes > "holidays" as to not offend anyone by the mention of a christian tradition. > (*gasp* we wouldn't want that!!!) anyway that's not the point. basically > make AlphaWorld festive this december. > [View Quote] ferruccioDec 4, 2003, 5:44am
Telling someone to renounce their christian standpoint is caring for others?
C P just told me that it's wrongful for me to say Christmas specifically. I told him to shut up because he told me to shut up about my faith. And anyway, nobody is fooling anyone here, the "holiday spirit" that everyone talks about IS christmas. That's what just about everyone is preparing for. It's really too bad how a lot of people are like these days. They want all the presents, and the fluff of christmas, but they don't want Christ. It is okay if you are non-christian to say "holiday spirit", but it is wrongful to tell someone to renounce their christian beliefs (I.E. saying "merry christmas) simply because there are people who exist in the world who aren't christian. [View Quote] sweet adoraDec 4, 2003, 7:07am
He was just trying to include others, as well as christians. Why should only
christians be included and not others in well wishes? And noone is trying to 'convert' you... it won't convert you or force you to 'renounce' your religion just to say a kind word or to to someone of another faith as well as your own. Smile...it's about xmas and peace and love in the world for *everyone*. [View Quote] > Telling someone to renounce their christian standpoint is caring for others? > C P just told me that it's wrongful for me to say Christmas specifically. I > told him to shut up because he told me to shut up about my faith. And > anyway, nobody is fooling anyone here, the "holiday spirit" that everyone > talks about IS christmas. That's what just about everyone is preparing for. > It's really too bad how a lot of people are like these days. They want all > the presents, and the fluff of christmas, but they don't want Christ. It is > okay if you are non-christian to say "holiday spirit", but it is wrongful to > tell someone to renounce their christian beliefs (I.E. saying "merry > christmas) simply because there are people who exist in the world who aren't > christian. [View Quote] ferruccioDec 4, 2003, 7:22am
Nobody was being excluded when I said "christmas". If you are another
religion, proudly state whatever you like to celebrate at this time. Since I am catholic, I will say "christmas". It isn't my duty to list every religion in the book simply because I don't want to offend anyone. And please say Christmas, not xmas. And where are you quoting "convert" from? I never said that. [View Quote] linn ironhead@digitalpassage(dot)comDec 4, 2003, 10:29am
linn ironhead@digitalpassage(dot)comDec 4, 2003, 10:39am
actually this was a sweet post till SOMEONE comes in with negative words
seems no matter what is said they have to do that we are just trying to spread Christmas cheer :-) [View Quote] redoubtDec 4, 2003, 8:17pm
Christmas is such a generalized term these days that it symbolizes not only
the religious observance but the season, the time of the year. Can't we get around the petty political correctness and just enjoy it without the hyperbole? [View Quote] carolannDec 4, 2003, 8:46pm
Yes, it should never mean arguing about its meaning. There can be meanings
in common among Christians and secular people, or whoever cares to celebrate it....peace and sharing, extra time with family and friends, r/l or virtual. I imagine everyone can come together for those elements of Christmas. Then we can share our personal beliefs or celebrations with like-minded people. [View Quote] bowen ten.sardna@newobDec 4, 2003, 8:52pm
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It just isn't the holidy season in the newsgroups if we didn't argue
about it. -- --Bowen-- http://bowen.homelinux.com Give me ideas. carolannDec 4, 2003, 9:35pm
You mean like this?
The Christmas in AW NG Song (Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire) with apologies to Mel Torme and Robert Wells Our chestnuts (of wisdom) roasted on a funeral pyre. Jackasses ripping at our prose Mules like Carol never seeming to tire Stating all their personal yes and no's. Everybody knows a turkey who has got to go. He helps to make our nerves so tight. Tiny tots with keyboards all aglow Will find it hard to sleep tonight. They know that back lash is on its way, It'll bring us lots of rants that they'll convey. And every mother's child is gonna spy To catch someone's lying the AW way. And so I'm offering this simple phrase To kids from 1 to 92 Although it's been said many times, many ways Merry Christmas to you. [View Quote] c pDec 5, 2003, 12:16am
Sorry that wasn't meant to be negative, but in a community you cant say we,
and mean solely Christian standpoints, it is so commercialized (fat dude breaks into houses) but still you must at least acknowledge the others, and in a community where everyone has their own beliefs decorating the world with Christmas only things would be horrid, and a little biggotist. im not biased, but just acknowledge existence and don't try to justify your meanings by knocking others. its be great if awi decorated, snow, wreathes trees Santa's, stars of David, nativities, menorahs, and all things would be gladfully accepted in spreading joy in such a pitiful time. but the way you said it you came off as "Christians celebrate Christmas and everyone else does too" is what you came off like. but enough about that. decorate away awi, I look forward to it [View Quote] ferruccioDec 5, 2003, 12:49am
I am not obligated to mention any other religion. I am Christian, I will
celebrate christmas. It is up to the people of other religions to express their needs. It is not horrid nor is it boggotist to decorate a world for Christmas. If other religions are so offended by Christmas, then they can leave. But, I don't think we will be having that problem. [View Quote] ferruccioDec 5, 2003, 12:51am
Why tiptoe around afraid that someone will be offended? People are too
concerned about offending others these days. That's one of the reasons all the conversations in AWGate have been debased to nothing but prating. lioness.Dec 5, 2003, 1:35am
It has nothing to do with being afraid of offending people. It is simply
"Respect". Respect is when one is conscientious of others' needs or beliefs. True some people feel that Respect needs to be earned. However, most Christians I think will agree that Respect has a LOT to do with the Golden Rule. Treat others and you would like them to treat you. And that goes beyond whatever denomination or religion other people practice. True, if people are offended with any religious insinuations, they can leave a particular place and go elsewhere; however, the true main reason we Christians celebrate that particular holiday is to celebrate the birth of Jesus (who was a Jew) and to share peace and goodwill among all nations. Remember that please when someone gets offended that there are no menorrahs available in the OY's. The people who follow the Bahai religion for example don't believe in using Christmas trees, or Santas or any of the decorations we commonly use for the holidays. Neither do the Buddhists. It would be nice if we had a few decorations from each of the major religions celebrated in the world. That way we'd truly be sharing everyone's celebration of our lives in this world. It would make things much more inviting to everyone, not just a select group. ;-") (gets off my soapbox and prepares to get flamed) [View Quote] dlp anneDec 5, 2003, 1:40am
andrasDec 5, 2003, 1:53am
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> It has nothing to do with being afraid of offending people. It is simply
> "Respect". Respect is when one is conscientious of others' needs or beliefs. > True some people feel that Respect needs to be earned. However, most > Christians I think will agree that Respect has a LOT to do with the Golden > Rule. Treat others and you would like them to treat you. And that goes > beyond whatever denomination or religion other people practice. True, if > people are offended with any religious insinuations, they can leave a > particular place and go elsewhere; however, the true main reason we > Christians celebrate that particular holiday is to celebrate the birth of > Jesus (who was a Jew) and to share peace and goodwill among all nations. > Remember that please when someone gets offended that there are no menorrahs > available in the OY's. The people who follow the Bahai religion for example > don't believe in using Christmas trees, or Santas or any of the decorations > we commonly use for the holidays. Neither do the Buddhists. It would be nice > if we had a few decorations from each of the major religions celebrated in > the world. That way we'd truly be sharing everyone's celebration of our > lives in this world. It would make things much more inviting to everyone, > not just a select group. ;-") (gets off my soapbox and prepares to get > flamed) > > Well said! Thanks, -- Andras "It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson) wizard myrddinDec 5, 2003, 8:10am
Well said and explained there Lioness!
It is true that Jesus Christ was not born on December 25th. He wasn't even born in December. He was born in the middle of summer. So why is the birth of Christ celebrated on December the 25? "This difference is dates stems from the need to compromise with pagan believes and to "convert" them. In the Winter Solstice Babylonians celebrated the victory of their sun god. To this the Roman copy of this Babylonian custom was called Saturnalia, the feast of the birth of Sol. It was for centuries an abomination to Christians. The celebration was an orgy of pagan revelry. But the Church, instead of standing firm against paganism, began to compromise. It wanted to "help" weak young Christians who didn't want to give up the fun and merrymaking surrounding the winter solstice. So the Church said, 'Go on with your fun and celebration. Only now we'll call it a celebration of the birth of the Son of God. Instead of losing people to paganism, we'll combine the two and gradually even win some of the pagans of our day to profess Christianity. Let's not force men to choose between the two.'" (Michael Schneider) But above all as you have stated it is respect and tolerance of each others faith or believes no matter what they are. In whatever faith you follow and in these troubled times in the world faith has brought bitter foes together as for example World War One in the British and German troops met in no mans land to enjoy this time of year. Pity they went back to killing each other after it! But sharing the event not the faith shows tolerance and respect towards each other. lioness.Dec 5, 2003, 12:13pm
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