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Jun 23, 2003, 11:21pm

This is a message for those interested in AW hosting (it isn't meant as
spam). I used to host bots and worlds in the past under the Stuff-X
brand name. Now I've launched a new AW hosting service called 3D Host.
Bot, world, object path, and Web site hosting are all available. So, if
you are seeking AW hosting, please stop by:

http://www.3dhost.net

While the color scheme of our site may not be the best, our hosting
can't be beat. :P Thanks.

-Builderz

Jun 24, 2003, 2:17am

Cant be beat eh?
http://www.awscape.net/index.php?done=hosting.php
I just need to finish my control panel and add a couple more things, and i
belive you can be beat.
Bot and world hosting are on the way.

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Jun 24, 2003, 2:51am

I just love friendly competition. ;)

SW Chris

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Jun 24, 2003, 3:01am

It'll be just fine right up to the point when Scuz suddenly and mysteriously disappears, never to be seen or heard from again...

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Jun 24, 2003, 3:07am

You have a nice forum and very low prices for object path/Web hosting.
But what about: a FAQ, network information (for all I know, you could be
hosting on a 56k), a network status page, and backup information (if you
do backups at all)? Get your bot and world hosting ready and then I
might be more worried. ;)

-Builderz

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Jun 24, 2003, 3:16am

If Builderz bot hosting is anything to go by - I highly recommend any
service offered by him. He has been hosting Broadway and BluePearl bots for
2 years without a glitch and always with friendly and prompt service.

Good luck with your expansion Builderz!

Regards, Justin

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Jun 24, 2003, 9:23am

hehe Looks like Builderz will have to add a Testimonials section to his
site. ;)

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Goober King
Testify!
awnews at awnews.org

Jun 24, 2003, 1:17pm

Ya'll got nothing

www.iceflare.net/hosting/

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Brock - 308723 - DE Leader

Jun 24, 2003, 1:22pm

Talk about n00b site... :-D
--
-Miek Zimmer
*Mike

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Jun 24, 2003, 2:44pm

Your Web hosting packages offer "Unlimited Transfer." Tsk, tsk. Have a
look at http://www.unlimband.com. At least change it to "unmetered"
instead of "unlimited."

-Builderz

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Jun 24, 2003, 4:02pm

Good luck Builderz :-)

Drac

builderz <builderz at vastnexus.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3EF7A684.523703C1 at vastnexus.com...
> This is a message for those interested in AW hosting (it isn't meant as
> spam). I used to host bots and worlds in the past under the Stuff-X
> brand name. Now I've launched a new AW hosting service called 3D Host.
> Bot, world, object path, and Web site hosting are all available. So, if
> you are seeking AW hosting, please stop by:
>
> http://www.3dhost.net
>
> While the color scheme of our site may not be the best, our hosting
> can't be beat. :P Thanks.
>
> -Builderz

Jun 24, 2003, 4:28pm

What a bunch of n00bs man.. jezz..

"Unlimited Bandwidth" doesn't mean "Unlimited MBs per second". Obviously (if
you know anything about the internet) you know that acess lines have fixed
performance limits. A T1 can only provide you so many "MBs per second", just
as an OC-3 can only provide a fixed (maximum) number of MB/s.

Unlimited Bandwidth means that you can transfer as much data as you like
over the course of 1 pay period. For example, my website does several gigs
(5-10) of transfers a month from the measurements i've been able to get.

That *doesn't* mean you can as many MB/s of data that you like. Obviously,
if you flood the server and bring it to its knees with traffic, then the
webmaster is going to notice and shut your site down. So, you can transfer
an unlimited amount of data, but they're not talking about sustained traffic
of 2 MB/s or anything.

The problem is the loose definition of "bandwidth". Does it mean the
size/speed of the internet connection(measured in mb/s)? Or, rather the
ammount of data that can be moved over the connection in a long period of
time (gb/month)?

I think a better term would be "unlimited transfer".

-Jeremy

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Jeremy Booker - Owner / Webmaster
JTech Web Systems
www.JTechWebSystems.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about
itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." -Mathew 5:34




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Jun 24, 2003, 5:27pm

http://www.a1ct.com/a1ctpathservices.htm
MrBruce
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Jun 24, 2003, 5:32pm

[View Quote] Holy crap, talk about ripoff.

P-50..P-100 5 user worlds $40.00 a month

You could get a server and host it yourself for $10 a month.

--
--Bowen--

Jun 24, 2003, 5:32pm

Heh, every host under the sun appears to be coming out of the "woodwork"
now.

-Builderz

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Jun 24, 2003, 5:50pm

[View Quote] If you're talking about transfer bandwidth (being the amount you can
transfer a month , not the actual speed of the line) it _is_ unlimited
to the point that you can supply power to it. Semantically, nothing can
be unlimited, but as long as there is always power to the connection you
can always have unlimited transfer.

--
--Bowen--

Jun 24, 2003, 5:50pm

O_O JerMe, JerMe...let's not fight. You host Broadway world, I host the
bots for Broadway. Let's be civil about this.

Did you look at http://www.unlimband.com, the site I listed in my reply?
Of course no ISP or Internet connection has an infinite amount of
bandwidth or transfer speed. Can you store an unlimited amount of things
on your hard drive or CD-ROM? Nope. The same applies to bandwidth. And
that was the basis of my reply in reference to Brock's site. If Brock
himself, as a host, doesn't have an "unlimited" connection, then why
does he advertise "Unlimited Transfer" on his Web hosting packages?
There is no such thing. And that is exactly why the
http://www.unlimband.com site was started, to try and inform customers
that it just isn't possible.

What most Web hosts do when they say they offer something "unlimited"
(whether that be disk space, monthly bandwidth use, or something else)
is put a clause deep in their Terms of Service agreement. They may say
on the front of their site that they offer unlimited bandwidth, but
hidden within their service terms, they say something like "If you use
over 5GB of bandwidth per month, your account is at risk for
suspension." So, in essence, it is a form of false advertising. You
don't get anything unlimited -- it is quite the opposite. You are
limited to what the host places in their Terms of Service. Okay, follow
me so far?

Now, Brock didn't say he offered "unlimited bandwidth," but "unlimited
transfer." That is similar, but not the exact same thing. Take a look at
http://www.fdcservers.net/dedicated.html. Do you see that they offer a
"4Mbit speed minimum," but also say "UN-METERED bandwidth?" What that
means is that they don't monitor or measure the amount of bandwidth that
you use UNTIL you go over their limit (which would be 4mbps, in this
case). Then they charge you extra for the overage that you use.

When I replied to Brock, I was suggesting that he change the term
"Unlimited Transfer" on his site to "Unmetered Transfer." What I didn't
mention (and which I think prompted your response) was that he should
have also set some sort of limit as well (such as 128kbps, 5GB a month,
or whatever). So then people could go over the set limit, but their
account wouldn't be terminated (just billed for the extra usage). I
thought that knowledgeable people such as yourself would pick that up
unsaid. Anyway, if you still need more clarification, go make a post at
http://www.webhostingtalk.com. Most people there hate hosts that have
anything "unlimited" to do with them and can flame worse than Eep.

-Builderz

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Jun 24, 2003, 6:05pm

Read:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=153982&highlight=unlimited
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=157203&highlight=unlimited

I never heard someone use the term "unlimited" in the sense of a
connection having "power" or not.

-Builderz

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Jun 24, 2003, 6:06pm

[View Quote] My goodness. The reason it's charged on how much you transfer is
because that's how companies that supply these lines make their money.
If they didn't need or want to make money, there's really _no_ limit to
what you can actually transfer per month as long as there is power to
the connection.

--
--Bowen--

Jun 24, 2003, 6:11pm

Now you are starting to make more sense. But there is still a limit to
what you can physically transfer over a line. For example, you can only
transfer so much data over a copper connection versus a fiber optic one.
But I get your point. ;) It is just that most people in the Web hosting
industry would be "turned off" by offering "unlimited" anything.

-Builderz

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Jun 24, 2003, 6:14pm

Sry. Im working on all this. And im trying to get a control panel made. And
all by myself, so ive got a bit of work todo.
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Jun 24, 2003, 6:16pm

[View Quote] Well yes, the physical capabilities of the line limit you from actually
transferring 2000 gb's per second... but I'm talking about a monthly
limit. There's no reason to impose something like "20 mb's per month
max on your account" when you really have no physical limit.

--
--Bowen--

Jun 24, 2003, 6:19pm

Remmiz Hosting PRO is NOW open for buisness!!! Go to
http://www.remmiz.com/aw/hosting/ to see our AMAZING offers!
--
-Miek Zimmer
*Mike
OWNER OF:
REMMIZ HOSTING PRO
http://www.remmiz.com/aw/hosting/

Jun 24, 2003, 6:38pm

Hmm... does that mean if I plug AWNews.org in here, I'll see all the
*other* news sites come out of hiding?

Oh wait... there *aren't* any! :P

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Goober King
Alone in the crowd
awnews at awnews.org

Jun 24, 2003, 6:39pm

Lol - may as well called it "Post your Hosting sites here!"

Nice site btw Builderz - particually the Flash (Or was it Macromedia - I
forget) in the top right of your index - pretty cool.

- Leaf

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Jun 24, 2003, 6:45pm

Mike.... thats the worst bloody hosting site ive ever seen mate :P

- Mark

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Jun 24, 2003, 6:46pm

gotta say I love the spoofing, like the 'gap' ;)

- Mark

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Jun 24, 2003, 6:46pm

Oh, no! Not another one. ;)

-Builderz

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Jun 24, 2003, 6:58pm

Thanks for the kind comments, Leaf. I don't have the full version of
Macromedia Flash. I just used a simpler program with built-in text
effects to make it (it was a lot easier and much faster to make).

-Builderz

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Jun 24, 2003, 7:16pm

I based my site off of A!11C!T's...the tourist world.
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-Miek Zimmer
*Mike

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