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To the builders of A!!CT world // CommunitymrbruceJun 18, 2003, 9:48pm
Please click this link and read our proposal plan for A!!CT World.
http://www.a1ct.com/proposal.htm MrBruce. sw comitJun 19, 2003, 5:12am
Phew, wiping the world eh? One reason I've never built in non-public worlds
(no personal attack intended). [View Quote] mrbruceJun 19, 2003, 5:50am
None taken sw comit. No, we would no doubt save a full propdump of the world
to CDROM first. Of course that would save all builds at once. If a full wipe was done all the builds can be restored and we also minus all the defects and eyesores and maybe end up with an improved design upon reload. The bad part about AW world is when you run into someone elses old outdated build thats nothing but ground cover which has <not a citizen> on it and you have no choice but to live next to it. Keep in mind though, I said things will be thought thru thoughly and no matter what, if new attemps fail to be improvments, I will always have a recent backup of everything to return things back to normal like it was never changed in the first place. MrBruce [View Quote] brantJun 19, 2003, 11:05am
These all sound like good proposals that will increase interest in A!!CT
world, with the exception of one. Don't make your world another adult-oriented RPG world. Not that I think all such worlds should be eliminated, but I would never visit one, and I'm sure that most of A!!CT wouldn't either, seeing their average age. There's enough adult-oriented RPG worlds in the universe to satisfy demand. Good luck on whatever you choose, -Brant [View Quote] mrbruceJun 19, 2003, 2:54pm
Thank you for your input, it will be considered along with all the other
great replys I have receieved :) MrBruce [View Quote] baroJun 19, 2003, 7:16pm
The exact reason I don't build in public build worlds. After time, they
become bloated and choked with the corpses of dead and rotting builds. While in many private building worlds I don't think an entire wipe is needed, many of those worlds that refuse to delete old abandoned piles of garbage simply stagnate and die. It becomes so hard to find active builds, active people amongst the debris many call history. Some fantastic structure from a now innactive builder is worth saving, some pp16 cube house full of overlaps is not. But really it's up to the owners, have to balance the feeling of security and history of people's builds with continued growth of the world. [View Quote] sw comitJun 19, 2003, 9:13pm
That's why you cover land, and lots of it. Or join a community that's
already taken care of it for you. It's worked for me for 4 years. There was a few exceptions but GET took care of it. [View Quote] .duo.Jun 30, 2003, 12:06pm
I personally think an RPG or a game world with one would be awesome. I would
love it if I could help. You DEFINATELY should wipe the world and start over, but be sure to keep a BACKUP of it so if you wanted to, you could restore things like the GZ. I am up for helping in any way possible, and if it becomes an RPG I definiately want to help. I have always wanted to build an RPG, but I never have had the resources or proper organization, resources, and planning to do so, and I'm sure that A!!CT would be a prime world for an RPG. Also, if you wiped A!!CT and then reorganised it, keeping it a public build world, that would be great too. What happened last time is that build rights were given before the world was organized in any way. This is what caused A!!CT to become a mess. I honestly think that the GZ in A!!CT is nice, and should be kept if possible, but I also think that a new, less cluttered, smaller GZ would be good too. I would love to help organise this if its what you do. I do however, do not think proposal 1 is a good idea. We want to encourage tourist building, not the opposite. I have a great idea for how you could keep tourist builds in shape, and I assure you that it won't be ludicrously hard to carry out. I also have an idea of how to make it more difficult to delete tourist builds. [View Quote] .duo.Jun 30, 2003, 12:49pm
In fact, I will respond to other people's idea.
" Hi Mr Bruce,I have just read your writings about A!!ct world and its possible future with several alternatives. I will think about what you have written and certainly get back to you with my opinion or possible solutions.... You will probably remember the names Silverlinerv, MmeOdiles and Lord Denzel.... Yes, we are three in a family that really enjoy A!!ct. I rarely go to any of the other worlds, so I feel totally concerned about A!!ct's future...I will get back to you by email but for now it is late and I need to get offline. One of the A!!ct citizens" Nothing really to respond to. "Bluelaser5000: we need 2 swear to all of aw nothing bad will ever happen in A!!CT again that will make ppl hate it. Bluelaser5000: and wipe world and start over, Bluelaser5000: like promise in a newsgroup or maybe the message when u enter aw if aw would agree " I agree, we should try extra hard to keep A!!CT from being scorned by anyone. Definately any of those plans (excluding 1) would require some form of world wiping, thats a given. "MrBruce, About 5 years ago, I used to frequent this world called GinEric. After building several nice areas, I found the world crashed and my buildings were lost. As a result I lost interest and now I have come back to show my seven year old daughter a fun 3-D place. This is how I found A!!CT as a new tourist. Here are my comments to the proposals: >PROPOSAL #3 We are considering wiping A!!CT and rebuilding as a new role playing world and no longer allowing open building. We can make this an adult role playing world forbiding minors, or direct this towards the younger crowd in AW. I find role playing worlds end up being too violent for my liking. Least interesting to me. I am a Dad that will be playing AW with my kids. >PROPOSAL #4 We can make A!!CT a multi game world, containing multi bot controled games as well as a role playing game, as the world size can accomedate these possabilities and with open build no longer allowed, we can then disable fly and pass-thru. Not interesting to me. ditto >PROPOSAL #1 We are considering a complete wipe of all citizen #0 builds which will clean A!!CT of all Tourist builds, which in all probability are already half destroyed, altered or deleted and just taking up space. Not a bad idea sometime. I would consider choosing between #1 and #2 PROPOSAL #2 We are considering wiping A!!CT world all together and starting over again with a whole new world, citzens will be left with the option of saving their builds with a bot. This is probably the best proposal, but it still does not address how to find new land to build upon. When visiting, I found it very difficult to find building space. It may be useful to limit the amount of building space to members to a certain amount of square meters, and the amount of building space to visitors to a much smaller amount of space. I also would like to suggest that there is a need for a bot that would find a homestead for new visitors so that one can find land. Another way to fairly distribute land is to wipe out builds of tourists that have aged. Land that is being built upon needs to be close to other people. As the world grows, the people continue with urban sprawl and build further and further away from the GZ. So what happens is that people are no longer talking to each other because they are further and further away from the rest of the people. It's now easy to see that there are four things that are much needed. 1) Need a theme that makes A!!CT a fun place to meet. How about a modern city 2) Need infrastructure that is provided by the world such as roads and a good public transportation system that connects all parts of the world back to GZ. I would suggest some sort of a rail or people mover line that lets people see the country side while being transported to their new location. 3) Need plenty of meeting places where people can hold conversations. For example, I found Kaitlyn's pool to be a big draw in one of the Gineric worlds. See http://www.geocities.com/kaitlynr. A disco works well also. I am playing with one at 129W 129N. But I have seen much better. The first thing I would like to see is a list of public works projects and allow people to participate in building them. I would expect many of these to be near GZ and immediately connected by the transportation system. 4) I found it nice to have someone show me how to build. It's a lot of fun teaching people how to build in a new world. Konrad Roeder North Bend, WA Age: 46Tourist name:NumberToo or NumberTwo " A lot of nice points. I agree that a road system is 100% neccesary. Not only to connect the world, but to organize it and prevent over claiming. You could have an address for everything (example: NEBlock15) or even streets and street addresses. I think a railroad system is not a good idea, because it would not be able to reach every build in every part of the world. It just won't work. Also with the addresses you could have a directory which would list free land, and in fact possibly even claim the land inside and require someone to ASK for the land, which would solve the problem of over claiming. I'm not sure about a theme though. A world theme would make building boring. A GZ theme however would be a nice idea. Actually, if the road structure and such had a theme it would be good. Chatting across the world can be solved with 3.4. All you have to do is hide chat, and have what people say repeated in a console message by a bot. This way, no matter where you are in the world, you could chat. HOWEVER, this is a poor idea because it makes whispers and private conversations in general impossible. "The first thing I would like to see is a list of public works projects and allow people to participate in building them." - Another problem taken care of by an address system. "I found it nice to have someone show me how to build. It's a lot of fun teaching people how to build in a new world." - I agree. There could even be a program condoning building teachers. "I love AW. I hate paying money.That's a simple fact. Your world could change that for me. I believe that you should wipe all tourist landforms, and start A!!CT as a public building area again. It sounded wonderful and too good to be true when I first came to A!!CT... I haven't build anything or even talked to anybody yet, but I can tell you, I'll constantly be there if you keep it a public building area. Thank you for your time, Steven Hidy, raysoftcorp at hotmail.com " I still think that its best if ALL builds are wiped, and people who want to keep their builds back it up with a bot, and put it in some other world unless it is small enough. "From Derrick (351334) Hi. Im Derrick (351334). I think number 3 is the best. It has endless possiblities with it. For one, it will attrack many tourist because, simply, Mutation is getting boring, AD&DRPG is gone, and AWRPG limits only to citizen members. You could make up a totally new RPG too. One that could be placed in the future, not the same old slay a dragon, save a princess, kill a troll stuff. Or you could have an economic/build a life RPG. This would be a game where we could have people build social webs, economic builds, getting jobs, or anything else. If you support my ideas, I could help A!!CT world. I could get to writing a script asap.Thank you,Derrick" I agree, an RPG in the future is a good idea. The typical RPG set in midieval times is not only already there many in many worlds, but it frankly is boring and less open ended. Some kind of RPG where your NOT going around killing and fighting, but actually doing something NEW is what I've always wanted to do, especially if it is extremly open-ended. "Hello Mr. Bruce. I have been a long time citizen of A!!CT, I would prefer proposal #2. I was activity and event planner once, but no one seemed interested. I worked my ass of on that Halloween party last year, and the Easter scavenger hunt got even less people in. I didn't get to finish the Christmas world because it got turned into A!!CT2, before the scavenger hunt started. I would love to still be an active participant in A!!CT. It's the only reason I finally got a citizenship. If you decide to get rid of A!!CT all together I guess that's what has to be done. Let me know if I can be of any service to you in the near future. Kimdelee Proud citizen of A!!CT!! " I think that the events, no matter how good, only bring short appeal. What we need is a public world with services and such which make it more attractive than any other. "My first choice would be: PROPOSAL #4 We can make A!!CT a multi game world, containing multi bot controled games as well as a role playing game, as the world size can accomedate these possabilities and with open build no longer allowed, we can then disable fly and pass-thru. Second choice: PROPOSAL #3 We are considering wiping A!!CT and rebuilding as a new role playing world and no longer allowing open building. We can make this an adult role playing world forbiding minors, or direct this towards the younger crowd in AW. but for a younger crowd. -Mayor Taz" I think that either of these would be great, but a new public build world would be great too. "Dear Mr.Bruce Sorry to read that all. But You have absolutely right. Something must be done. Your best proposal I think is this one. PROPOSAL #3 We are considering wiping A!!CT and rebuilding as a new role playing world and no longer allowing open building. We can make this an adult role playing world forbiding minors.And observe that I have cut the sentence after forbiding minors. Yes make it a world for adult people which are taking roleplaying serious. I would prefer a mediaval world. An old Kingdom with King and Queen, fools, knights, ladyes, bards, and common people with occupations- fishermen, woodcutters, pawns, merchant and carpenters etc. I know that this is both funny and a big learningsituation. I have been a leader of such a play in many years in RL. OldHand is the councelor for the King there. In AW are the most interesting place just now AWRPG (Dreada). I have been there a lot but have left because of the bad atmosphere in the gameplay and the leadership.The socalled "Gods" are listening to everything and punish by flaming and killing and sending moral sentences when one not behave religios eneugh. And the security=0. I dont like to recieve consolemessages of an offending charakter refering to private things not in connection with the gameplay.And the gameplay in itself are stupid. Polishing crystals, collecting points and bones and so on. Therefore not such an atmosphere in a new RPG. But what made it very difficult to leave Dreada was the beautyful graphic- the realistic miljeu- people can not fly but must walk- the talk shall be in mediaval style and not "kewl to c u" and such things. That is worth observing. The gameplay then in a new RPG ? In fact it is gameplay eneugh just to build up a mediaval court with a Kingdom around and then let the intrigues develop in an historical development in the play. Is the miljeu realistic and are it only open for real roleplayers then it will develop.Can I be of any help with something let me know Sincerely Yours OldHand" I 100% disagree with everything here. I think that there are too many midieval RPGs already. They are boring, tedious, and all the same. I think that forbidding minors from A!!CT would go against everything A!!CT is. First off, A!!CT has always been a world for EVERYONE, where EVERYONE can do what they want (pretty much all of it too). Making it a world for adults only would not only decrease the number of users, but it would permanent stain A!!CT. Second off, personally I think that restricting people based on age (which one cannot help, and means almost nothing) and not what they know (which is the true indicator of things) is an awful thing. Being a minor myself, I would feel wronged if my favorite world would not let me in because of who I am. I honestly disagree with you about AWRPG too. The gameplay is tedious, and its midieval, but I would say that the poor terrain ruins the visual appearance. I think it is an enjoyable RPG, but it needs improvement. I think the restricted speech is bad. The only RPG that would fit with my idea of A!!CT would be an almost completely open-ended RPG which is completely original in almost every way. I also disagree that minors don't take roleplaying seriously because they are minors. If you really wanted serious players, you would make it so players could only join if they were serious. Using age as a basis for the seriousness of a player is not logical. People are individuals, and you honestly can't say who they are because of their age. [View Quote] |