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Feb 7, 2003, 5:18pm

Ok I am sure all of you know who I am and what my goals are, I have posted
them many times here in the news groups and forums.
But for those who are unfamilar with me and my crusade here's a brief
disscription.
Many who were concerned over the closing of (AW) Alpha World to tourist
access, made claims that without Alpha worlds openness to visiters, will
decrease the number of new citizens to AW.
I took these concerns to heart and desided that if AW Inc. was not going to
reopen Alpha world to tourists (which is their right to do so) why not open
a world of my own to replace it and give the toutists what AW Inc. refuses
to give them.
This is where A!!CT world comes in. A!!CT was once a semi private building
world. I have desided to exspand it and raise the user limits and in a sense
donate it to the AW community as a fully public open building world.
To add more pizazz, I aquired an object path (set up unlike the one AW
offers in AW World), yes we have those objects, but I also have purchased
many objects made by private modelers to make our path more interesting, we
alllow all action commands. We allow terrain editing and are running the
newer 3.4 type world server.
My love for AW as a program and my love for the AW Community has casued me
to invest alot of my recreation type funds into creating a world for all to
use world wide, no matter what the race, gender or ethnic background.
I have put my world A!!CT on the line, you could say I donated it to the AW
community for all to use and to subdue.
With all this in mind and I want to add that A!!CT is privately funded by
me, I would like to say I am a large company who chose to buy into Virtual
Reality (like Juno did) but I am not, I am just an ordinary working class
indivigual, who chooses to try to make a difference in a program I happen to
have a great intrest in (AW).
Now the point of this post, I as the owner of A!!CT call out to you the
community for financial backing and help, not criticism. I knock myself out
daily, trying to think of ways to generate income to make A!!CT a
self-supporting world. So far, most ideas I think of will not work. We can
not sell lots, that's not practical, no one would pay money for a lot.
Buying a universe or sol-server is not practical, No.1 I want to be a part
of the AW universe, No.2 from what I have seen, universes are not that
popular and each universe is sort of like owning a world, the more users you
want the more you pay, the more worlds you want in your universe, the more
you pay. But most importantly, I want my dream to be in the AW universe.
So I am calling out to all of you for help, whether its financial help, or
good solid suggestions on how to make A!!CT world pay for its self, NOT FOR
PROFIT, but just support its self and for the AW Community to please
realize, that I am one member of the AW community, who is financially trying
to give back the community, what it feels AW took away. But as a working
class person, I can not do this on my own. I can not change the price of
citizenships, but perhaps if you all work with me, perhaps we can all
generate enough regisitered citizens to convince AW .Inc to lower prices.
Remember, AW is a company, it is here to make a profit, we as a community
are their profit, if we can generate enough profit for them to function
comfortably, they can afford to lower prices.
This post is long enough and sorry for the size it is, if you have any
questions about what I am trying to say here please contact me and please
help support A!!CT World, to this day, it is still 40 co-ords shy of its
former P-130 world limit.
MrBruce A1CTWorld at aol.com

Feb 7, 2003, 5:45pm

Its great that you are trying to help the universe this way :)

However, there is one thing that may hold you back. When new citizens first
came to the gate and asked where there was a good place to build, most GKs
will probably say AW (well they would, in days gone by).

This provided a lot of advertising for AW - as well as the fact it had a
huge teleport actually at the gate. I don't know whether or not A!!CT has a
teleport at the gate or even if privately owned worlds can have one - but if
it doesen't i suggest it gets one.

Then there is still the problem of no one to advertise the existance of the
world to newcomers. The only solution I can think of is to ask some of your
trusted cit friends to hag out at the Gate for an hour each day and plug
A!!CT as much as possible. This isn't the most practical or socially
friendly solution but it seems the only one that would work, except if AW
decide to advertise the world for you - which I doubt they will.

Sorry, I haven't really answered your main concern - more like laid some
more on your plate, but its something to keep in mind.

- Ste

Feb 7, 2003, 6:08pm

It has been suggested, but the only time privately owned worlds are allowed
teleports at the gate is if Mountain Myst selects it as "worlds to watch"
which is only good for one month. Plus I know if A!!CT got a teleport at the
gate, everyone would want one. case in point, I slipped by stating Flagg
raised A!!CT's user limit to 150 users when A!!CT was authorized to 30, of
course Tom did this to help me out, as you could exspect, everyone wanted a
free user limit increase, because I got one. Now AW will no longer do this
for me. Now I have to pay $50.00 for every 5 user increase. Sad to say for a
world that dragged many in from other chat programs and convinced them to
purchase a citizenship :(
But aside from that, we seriously need donations as I stated, A!!CT was a
P-130 until it was discovered FeNiX renewed it with using a credit card he
was not authorized to use. Although A!!CT is back, I was only able to
restore it back to a P-90, as many of you may not realize, there are builds
out past 90 N E S W which are stuck in limbo, until moeny is paid to AW to
reclaim this land. Sorry this was unexspectedand I was not prepaired for
this disaster. Tom quoted me a price of $780.00 to get A!!CT back out to the
former 130 N E S W co-ords it once was 2 weeks ago. I just recently paid
$50.00 to add 5 more users to allow 20 people in A!!CT at one time. As you
can see, world owning is very exspensive!!
MrBruce A!!CT World owner. A1CTWorld at aol.com
MrBruce
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Feb 7, 2003, 6:21pm

Donate 50 to AW to allow tourist back in.

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Feb 7, 2003, 6:22pm

Sorry I missed the part about mentioning A!!CT in open chat at the AWGate,
it's been tried many times, it's the damned Gatekeepers who threaten to
eject you if you advertise a paying community world at the gate. I have
argued this before that it seems certain people get away with it,
advertising their newyeareve parties or Valentine days dances, but if A!!CT
is mentioned it's considered spamming my world and the ones trying to get
the word out, are warned by the GKs they face ejections.
As I said A!!CT needs financial support and supporters do own a piece of the
world, depending how much they donate.
MrBruce A!!CT owner. A1CTWorld at aol.com
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Feb 7, 2003, 6:26pm

Hey MrBruce:)
Have you tried negotiating a trade or something with AWI?
Maybe like...you bring in so many cits and in trade you get some increases
or something?
Just a thought:)
Also, have you talked to the head of the GK's to see if you gave them a
macro they could announce to tourists to visit?
Maybe just discuss te situation with JP or something and maybe they have a
need you could fullfill in trade?
They be pretty nice folks and might be able to help:)

Feb 7, 2003, 6:54pm

Aww crap! You posted this in here too??

My poor little over-filled ignore list ... gonna need a new one soon, this
one is getting worn out!

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Feb 7, 2003, 7:15pm

how does one actually know how many citizens "they've brought in"? do these
hundreds of tourists that become citizens actually tell YOU that THEY
registered PURELY because of A!!CT Bruce? what if these tourists you see in
A!!CT are in A!!CT a lot and 'enjoy' their time there, but then go to
another world and they actually registered for another reason - something
else pulled them in - and you claim you're the reason they registered? what
if a tourist prances into thebeans, seeing the nice anti-lag gz that's
nicely organized and easy to build within and there isn't so much psychotic
deletion and issues - and fraudulent credit cards - and decides they're
going to register, but since they've been in A!!CT you claim it as being a
registry based on your world - how is such a thing fair? i'm sure you have
some perfectly logical answer to this, how you determine that you've
successfully created a registered user out of a tourist with your world.
personally - if A!!CT was the first world i tried building and interacting
within i would be scared, just my opinion though. :)

maki
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Feb 7, 2003, 7:19pm

" it's the damned Gatekeepers who threaten to
eject you if you advertise a paying community world at the gate"

How Rude, what a thing to say about Gatekeepers!

they have a job to do,and no doubt that includes restricting
unofficial scrolling or spamming.

Feb 7, 2003, 7:22pm

They're corrupt and incompetent.

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Feb 7, 2003, 7:26pm

If only it were that simple.

AW can afford to lert tourists into the world if they wanted but that would
be going against their whole policy, where by they seem to think they will
make more business this way.

People in AWTeen were offering to pay money to AWInc for tourist access
there - i don't know what happened aabout that but I think AWInc wouldn't
accept the donation. However, E N ZO enabled tourist access himself on
Generations Day which was last May in AWTeen. Probably through some
persuasion by Mountain Myst though.

Feb 7, 2003, 7:29pm

There is a difference between spamming and scrolling and the occasional plug
of A!!CT when a tourist asks if there are any good worlds, though.

Feb 7, 2003, 7:56pm

not all the GK's are that bad, you know. maybe if you knew one or more of
them you wouldn't say such harsh things. i'll have to agree, however, a few
are looney.

maki
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Feb 7, 2003, 8:40pm

Good questions there maki and you deserve an answer, so here goes.
As a world owner and a avid chat program user (i.e. ICQ, MSN, Pordigy, AOL,
Yahoo ect. I visit many public chat rooms in these programs and speak often
about Activeworlds and what it is all about, I grab the rooms intrest by
mentioning the amazing capabilities of the AW software which is free to
download and use. I mention of course that I am a world owner in AW. I
instruct people where to download the software and once they enter the
AWGate to use the advanced mode, remove the webpage from the right panel,
resize the view window and chose the world tab and select A!!CT from the
list.
Now we have visiters, i keep track of their names like anyone does, I listen
to their concerns over over jealious AWTeen nerds who come here just to
delete their hard work, I do what I can for them, some i bought citizenships
for out of greif over the AWTeen deleters. Others have had a sample of the
program and left over the deletion of their hard work (thanks AWTeen nerds)
others register, get a cit and telegram me saying things like "Thanks
MrBruce, thanks to you I have decided to get a cit, it was your inspiration
and concern that made em make up my mind to become a permanent member of AW"
This is not a cop out here, but I recently had to reformat my entire HD over
a stupid videocard issue concerning MS Direct X 9.0 I lost everything in the
process, prop-dumps, saved builds and all my chat texts. But there was the
proof you needed. I am not sure why i need to defend myself everytime i make
a post here, one such explanation hurt my world's user limit as I stated
earlier about how my world had a 150 user limit. I am not here to lie or
mislead anyone, so I am not sure why i am always being questioned. As for
other worlds bringing people into AW as citizens, I never said this was not
true, but up until A!!CT went to hell over the fraudulant credit card
renewal, you have to admit, that aside from Mutation world A!!CT was always
3rd or 4th on the list below AW or AWGate and we most of the time beat out
AWTeen. Now A!!CT is a has been, because we lost what made the world public,
land and user limits, once a world is full as A!!CT is now, you either lose
user intrest, or you keep deleting the builds to make more room. I hate
deleting anything, so the best policy is add more land (exspand) that's how
AW world and AWTeen started out, they were not always the size they are now,
but they are also owned by AW Inc.
MrBruce A1CTWorld.com
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Feb 7, 2003, 8:42pm

Mr. Bruce,
Thats because those "certain people" are also GK's and as usual the corruptedness of the GK program shows itself....
It's ok for a certain GK to advertise her little events and such, but not "normal" cits and GOD FORBID she doesnt like you, I saw
exactly those kind of snotty at $$ little vindictive behaviours in person at the cy's this past year, when a certain *greeter*
purposely attempted to sabotage an acceptance by a good friend of mine, when she won an award..... intentionally told her to be in
the wrong place, told her too late, etc..... GK's should be proud of her... she makes a great addition to their little 'respectable'
organization.... not that ALL of them are louses, only some, but it's kinda disgusting, if you ask me..... Most are only there for
the power trip.. want to feel important without DOING anything for it....
Once again, this reared it's ugly head in a certain world, used to celebrate a certain event recently...... so many volunteered to
help, oh yeah, we'd love to be there, and do this, and that, and so on, but didnt do s**t.... didnt even have the courtesy to, at
the very least, attend the meetings to familiarize themselves WITH what they volunteered for, or were supposed to do.......
But Ohhh, how quick they turned up when the event started...... ohh yes..... all the glory-grabbers were out on full display to show
everyone "how much they DO for the community" :Op <gags>..... buncha total BS.......
Absolute hypocrites, if ya ask me....... just wanna be 'important' without actually having to DO anything to deserve it.....
*rolls eyes*

Anyways.... as far as your need for donations is concerned, perhaps you could talk to some of the modelers here, and see if they'd
be willing to donate a model, set, av, what have you...... might be able to make a few dollars from the proceeds of selling some
donated objects, and use that to keep the world afloat...
I realize it's not much, but it's something.... I'd be willing to make and donate something for the cause :O) I'm sure others would
too !
Something to think about....... your thoughts ?
JB


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Feb 7, 2003, 8:44pm

If its concerning an AW related product I do not see that as spamming. I am
a financial supporter of AW, the gate is owned by AW and it seems to me
certain world owners (no Names mentioned here) get to spam thier NewYearsEve
parties and Valentines dances held in thier privately owned worlds.
MrBruce
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Feb 7, 2003, 8:53pm

Ummmm Johhny...could you please explain via email to me what happened at the
cys to your friend and any other concerns you had?
Or you can post it here...your choice:)
But I would love to see what happened and possibly either 1.) enlighten you
that it was a missunderstanding or 2.) get a public appology out.
I do have to mention that one person who is very close to me experianced the
same thing and it wasn't intentional....it was an error:)
Thanks:)
Bit:)

Feb 7, 2003, 8:59pm

I will ask the person who it happened to, to decide if she wants to converse with you concerning this..... i've said all i feel i
need to...... my statement was used purely as an example, not to bring up a specific occurance.... hence my not mentioning any
names, worlds, etc...


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Feb 7, 2003, 9:06pm

I understand...but you DID mention the Cys...you had to expect this no?:)
And correct me if I'm wrong but I think you did bring up a specific
occurance?
Please ...while you are talking to this person, let them know that they
weren't the only one and that the other person had it happen accidently.
Perhaps they won't see it as intentional if they know that:)
Thanks!:)
Bit:)

Feb 7, 2003, 9:09pm

I also want to add, it seems my request fo rhelp (like always) being
responded to by the community as ATTACKS, this is what I mean in all the
posts I post here, anything A!!CT is bad, just seems all of you think A!!CT
is a doanted freebie world that drains AW's resources. How much education do
you all need to realize its people like me whppu tour hard earned money into
AW .Inc bank account? It's concerned people like me who try to bring people
into AW and its the inconsiderate ones who post anti this and question that
with great hatered mind you, that makes anyone who visits here in AW quick
to leave. Trust me on that. I hear over 200 complaints a day about abusive
people in AW and how people are cancealing their cits! I must have 20 names
on my contacts that I have no idea why i have not seen these people on line
in months, some leave without telling everyone. I should not always have to
defend myself in a newsgroup, instead as a community, we should be working
together not against each other or hating A!!CT because you believe in
AWTeen or any other world. I mention AWTeen the most here, because (face it
folks) 95% of the telegrams, posts or emails about anti-A!!CT come from
members of AWTeen world and these are from citizens not tourists. if not for
people like me, with paying worlds like my, I am sure AW would be asking a
hell of alot more then $6.95 a month for a cit. think about it and instead
of hating me for what I am trying to do for thsi program, help me and show
me what a community is supposed to be...people helping each other and
sticking together.
MrBruce A1CTWorld at aol.com

Feb 7, 2003, 9:57pm

Well, I think that AlphaWorld was always the size it is now. Can anyone
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Feb 7, 2003, 10:18pm

Brant to the best of my knowlege and as I quote what Flagg said about his
first view of Alpha Prime (AW) "It was not the size it is now" I believe the
world owned by AW called GZ which displays Alpha Worlds origional GZ may in
all likely hood been the origional size at one time. But AW world has always
been a 32,720 for as long as I have been in AW. AWTeen is a different story
of course, because as you know it was upgraded last year, because it ran out
of space, as we all know once a world is full and no land is available for
new builders, they go elsewhere and the world's value goes down. As I stated
earlier, A!!CT as a P-90 is full, its either upgrade, or start deleting
abandoned builds, which I hate doing as any build no matter how stupid is
someones work of art and I respect that.
But please lets stick to a solution to my problem, for one and foremost,
getting A!!CT back out to the p-130 it was so the builds out there can
re-materialize.
This request is not for my selfesh gains, as the owner of this world I am
looking out for the people who were nice enough to come here to AW and
abandon those old out of date instant messaging programs.
MrBruce A1CTWorld at aol.com
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Feb 7, 2003, 10:59pm

OneSummer is currently a volunteer for community work as a GateKeeper,
AWSchool teacher, Cy Awards helper, AWEC as events promoter, and AWHS.
There are very few people that put in as much time into the community as she
does. Sometimes her work in one activity crosses over into another. Its
her job to promote events, and she does that at The Gate.

If you want to promote A!!CT how about have some events there? I'm sure
OneSummer will gladly help promote it as she does with any event happening
in AW - I stress again - its her job to do so. Even so, she does it because
she enjoys it.

Also, although I don't hang out at The Gate, I believe all Gate Keepers do
announce the tourist access available worlds on a regular basis.

Finally, I am not sure all people know what its like to be a person with
high exposure in AW. You get bombarded non- stop with telegrams and joins
of people wanting your attention, and often have to wear criticism, false or
otherwise. Under those conditions mistakes or misunderstandings are likely
to occur often. I think a little more consideration for those people would
not go astray.

Regards, Justin


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Feb 7, 2003, 11:33pm

hmmm... correction to what I wrote before.....

Apparently OneSummer does not promote events at The Gate. There are signs
made for events at The Gate.

OneSummer flatly denies ever promoting events while on duty, and was very
adamant she does not prmote her world events while doing other community
work.

The only time she does promote them is intermittently at Bingo and Alpha
World, or when in her own world.

I also omitted her voluntary work for AWTours as head builder and AWNewbie
as WatchKeeper, plus the mega work of birthday build sites and memorial
sites.

Regards, Justin

Feb 8, 2003, 12:29am

Hi, Just in, I in my own way try to do alot of the community, as much as I
would love to be a gatekeeper, running A!!CT and what is associated with it
takes up all of my free time. This would also explain why I would not be a
good canidate as a Peacekeeper either. I spend alot of time logged into AW
as AFK, as I am either at work, working on projects related to AW or
visiting other chat program rooms (as they are called) spreading the word of
AW. Although i can not seem to prove I do this other than bringing people
into the gate and exsplaining how they got here, but I enter chat rooms such
as AOL's over21 chat room, the connecticut chat room ect and I speak about a
world I own in AW and how cool the program is compared to just chat text in
a white box. I exspalin how this program allows you to build the coolest
things of their dreams.
Although I use A!!CT the most, it is my world and there i do not have to
worry about crossing another world owners rules, it is from there we suggest
the tourist enabled worlds. So you see Jut in most of my work in AW goes
unseen, because alot of what I do is to bring curious people into AW, in
order to do that. you have to go outside the program and advertise and try
to do it as word of mouth so as not to be accused of spamming.
What a citizen does from there, where they go, where they call thier home,
is no business of mine, even the cits I own all 15 of them are free to visit
any world and build where ever it is allowed.
And for that, I myself have been threatend with "MrBruce you spam your world
one more time here and you will be ejected"! this said to me by a Gatekeeper
and I only announced it once, I was mentioning a legit paintball tournament
where two worlds donated by AW were prizes to the people there, that was an
"event"!
It was part of our one year anaversary!
MrBruce.
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Feb 8, 2003, 2:33am

you know what - you know why you're always being "anti'd" in here? you know
why you're always getting put down? it's because you never stop with the
same old crap. you've done it entirely to yourself, for some reason, people
automatically think low of such a world that has massive deletion issues, a
psychotic tourist environment, extreme lag'd down GZ's, thousands of signs
and welcome messages that contain nothing more than CAPS that ramble on
about your problems and how we're supposed to help and how terrible it is
that you have to run this for the community.

you get ATTACKED because it's purely annoying, if you ENJOY doing this for
the community, and feel you're doing such a great job in bringing in the AW
community and putting money in AWI's bank accounts, then stop your damn
complaining. all you ever post about A!!CT is your issues, whether it be
with severe deletion problems, your lack of money to keep the world going,
you know, it's enough these people you "bring in" to the universe have to
pay for their citizenship(which you attempt at providing, bad idea..) then
you try to beg the rest of the universe to pay for YOUR bills - it's your
choice to start a massively huge privately owned public building world. it's
your responsibility, sure, 'hire' some people to help around the world and
with whatever problems that can be solved by someone with some rights, but
you don't go asking the community you're providing such a thing to.

sorry if i seem rude, but maybe you should just take a look at your posts,
your worlds, and get it together. people don't care to hear all your
STATISTICS about how much you PAY each year, each month, about how you
should get whatever you want since you can get a few citizens to register,
by getting citizens to register then getting a 150 user limit from AWI for
free is just stealing from AWI. they don't get much out of that - which by
the way, neither do you. the only time there's 150 people in a world is
during the CY's or other HUGE events, A!!CT definitely isn't a huge event.

if you want to be liked by ALL of this community, you have to pull yourself
together here, don't post every bit of information to try to back yourself
up each time someone tries to say different. instead, change it. make a
difference and people will appreciate what you offer more. according to what
you seem to think, you ARE the community, help yourself for once, if you
don't think you can afford to keep this going anymore, keep your world at a
logical size, get it cleaned up, and stop paying for people's cits just to
keep AW open. by the way, i never go to awteen unless i join someone
there - i hate it almost as much as a!!ct, probably more in fact, because of
the people, however. you don't try to change a program for the 'better'when
you can't financially do it.

maki
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Feb 8, 2003, 8:58am

Maybe its because you never take a breath? Its as much NG spam advertising
for A!!CT as it is asking for help Bruce...

- Mark

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Feb 8, 2003, 10:59am

Maki I will be honest here, I typed 13 different posts to respond to what
you have said to me here and I deleted them. I honestly can not respond, you
win!
MrBruce

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Feb 8, 2003, 12:11pm

I'll relay your message, though I personally don't agree that it was a mistake, but my opinion isn't important
JB


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Feb 8, 2003, 1:05pm

about time someone said it, i think many people feel the same was as you,
well done maki

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