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Nov 2, 2002, 4:54pm
yes TZ I think more has been lost here than we even know you know exactly
who made the mistakes and why and I don't want to go over it all again
its old news :-) but documented for proof if I need it to send to
special people who wont play mind games with me btw lets not forget im
not the only one out here who disapproves of how all this went down
shame has come out of all this for the CY the ppl involved and AW its self
im sad to say
Nov 2, 2002, 4:56pm
Of for the love of god shut the Hell up!
STOP these damn pointless threads they accomplish NOTHING!
- Mark
[View Quote]"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message news:3dc42d6b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> yes TZ I think more has been lost here than we even know you know exactly
> who made the mistakes and why and I don't want to go over it all again
> its old news :-) but documented for proof if I need it to send to
> special people who wont play mind games with me btw lets not forget im
> not the only one out here who disapproves of how all this went down
> shame has come out of all this for the CY the ppl involved and AW its self
> im sad to say
>
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:03pm
don't add to it then !!!
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3dc42dec at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Of for the love of god shut the Hell up!
>
> STOP these damn pointless threads they accomplish NOTHING!
>
> - Mark
> "linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message
news:3dc42d6b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
exactly
im
self
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:19pm
You tell me I know exactly who made what mistakes. I'm telling you, that's not the case. Are you going to avoid a direct answer indefinately? What is it that you are accusing of having been done wrong?
TechnoZeus
[View Quote]"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message news:3dc42d6b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> yes TZ I think more has been lost here than we even know you know exactly
> who made the mistakes and why and I don't want to go over it all again
> its old news :-) but documented for proof if I need it to send to
> special people who wont play mind games with me btw lets not forget im
> not the only one out here who disapproves of how all this went down
> shame has come out of all this for the CY the ppl involved and AW its self
> im sad to say
>
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:24pm
lol you are tooo cute I know someone else in here that tries that and it
doesn't change the facts so stuff it TZ get over it
[View Quote]"technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
news:3dc4334e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> You tell me I know exactly who made what mistakes. I'm telling you, that's
not the case. Are you going to avoid a direct answer indefinately? What is
it that you are accusing of having been done wrong?
>
> TechnoZeus
>
> "linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message
news:3dc42d6b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
exactly
im
self
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:26pm
Techno, just let this thread drop, We dont need another 1... Please?
- Mark
Nov 2, 2002, 5:26pm
I hate to say it, but I have to agree with Strike in this case. I'm not asking you to go over it again. I'm still waiting for you to go over it the first time. I hear a lot of complaining, but nothing really being said.
Again, I reiterate... what is it that you are claiming has been done wrong? If all you can come up with it that Daphne said something was done wrong, then why bother to say it at all? If someone else has a complaint, they can say what it is. If you have a complaint, feel free to say what it is. If not, don't waste any more effort on it and consider the subject dropped.
TechnoZeus
[View Quote]"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message news:3dc42f91 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> don't add to it then !!!
>
> "strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3dc42dec at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> news:3dc42d6b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> exactly
> im
> self
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:28pm
That's still not an answer. A cop out, maybe, but not an answer. Look, I don't want to keep asking. It's just rediculous. If you have nothing to say, then leave it go and I will consider it a dropped subject. If you reply, I will be expecting to see an answer or an apology. Take your pick.
TechnoZeus
[View Quote]"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message news:3dc43467 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> lol you are tooo cute I know someone else in here that tries that and it
> doesn't change the facts so stuff it TZ get over it
>
> "technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
> news:3dc4334e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> not the case. Are you going to avoid a direct answer indefinately? What is
> it that you are accusing of having been done wrong?
> news:3dc42d6b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> exactly
> im
> self
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:32pm
cute TZ but doesnt change the facts
if you want ot make this personal as you seem to then go to email im not
going to show your *ss in here any more you have done a good job of it
[View Quote]"technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
news:3dc4357d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> That's still not an answer. A cop out, maybe, but not an answer. Look, I
don't want to keep asking. It's just rediculous. If you have nothing to
say, then leave it go and I will consider it a dropped subject. If you
reply, I will be expecting to see an answer or an apology. Take your pick.
>
> TechnoZeus
>
> "linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message
news:3dc43467 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
that's
is
again
to
forget
its
>
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:35pm
I hear you Mark. I don't want it either, but I think I do have a right to stand up for myself. If the Cy Awards Executive Team, which I happen to be on, is accused of having done something wrong without any details of who or what, then I think it only fair that I should be able to ask what the accusation is. So far she has only been able to indicate that perhaps she may possibly have been talking about the Selection Committee, but I don't even see her backing that up. So if she drops it, I will too... but if she replies with more statements "implying" that I may have done something wrong, then I will again ask what, until she either drops it or answers that one simple question. Maybe I'm carrying this too far, but I'm not used to having my integrity attacked so don't be surprised if I act like this is not an every day occurrance to me.
TechnoZeus
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:3dc434da at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Techno, just let this thread drop, We dont need another 1... Please?
>
> - Mark
>
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:37pm
I've done no such thing, and I'm not the one who has made it personal. You attacked me. State your case, admit your were wrong, or just give up quietly, because I will not stand by and quietly allow you to attack me with vague comments about how "somebody" did "something" wrong.
TechnoZeus
[View Quote]"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message news:3dc43645 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> cute TZ but doesnt change the facts
>
> if you want ot make this personal as you seem to then go to email im not
> going to show your *ss in here any more you have done a good job of it
>
>
> "technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
> news:3dc4357d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> don't want to keep asking. It's just rediculous. If you have nothing to
> say, then leave it go and I will consider it a dropped subject. If you
> reply, I will be expecting to see an answer or an apology. Take your pick.
> news:3dc43467 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> that's
> is
> again
> to
> forget
> its
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:38pm
I did answer you TZ with a copy paste of your own words read it is this
an understanding problem you have or you just like to make personal attacks
??
[View Quote]"technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
news:3dc4370d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I hear you Mark. I don't want it either, but I think I do have a right to
stand up for myself. If the Cy Awards Executive Team, which I happen to be
on, is accused of having done something wrong without any details of who or
what, then I think it only fair that I should be able to ask what the
accusation is. So far she has only been able to indicate that perhaps she
may possibly have been talking about the Selection Committee, but I don't
even see her backing that up. So if she drops it, I will too... but if she
replies with more statements "implying" that I may have done something
wrong, then I will again ask what, until she either drops it or answers that
one simple question. Maybe I'm carrying this too far, but I'm not used to
having my integrity attacked so don't be surprised if I act like this is not
an every day occurrance to me.
>
> TechnoZeus
>
> "strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3dc434da at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:41pm
Don't feed the troll!!!
Andras
[View Quote]
> That's still not an answer. A cop out, maybe, but not an answer. Look, I don't want to keep asking. It's just rediculous. If you have nothing to say, then leave it go and I will consider it a dropped subject. If you reply, I will be expecting to see an answer or an apology. Take your pick.
>
> TechnoZeus
>
[View Quote]> "linn" wrote in message news:3dc43467 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:42pm
And when I asked if I understood what "you" meant, your only comment was to tell me that I wrote it.
Again, I ask for a straight answer. What is it that you are saying has been done wrong?
TechnoZeus
[View Quote]"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message news:3dc437ce at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I did answer you TZ with a copy paste of your own words read it is this
> an understanding problem you have or you just like to make personal attacks
> ??
>
> "technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
> news:3dc4370d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> stand up for myself. If the Cy Awards Executive Team, which I happen to be
> on, is accused of having done something wrong without any details of who or
> what, then I think it only fair that I should be able to ask what the
> accusation is. So far she has only been able to indicate that perhaps she
> may possibly have been talking about the Selection Committee, but I don't
> even see her backing that up. So if she drops it, I will too... but if she
> replies with more statements "implying" that I may have done something
> wrong, then I will again ask what, until she either drops it or answers that
> one simple question. Maybe I'm carrying this too far, but I'm not used to
> having my integrity attacked so don't be surprised if I act like this is not
> an every day occurrance to me.
> news:3dc434da at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:44pm
TZ this is soooo stupid you know what the CY probs are stop it you are
making yourself look soooooo silly LMAO
[View Quote]"technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
news:3dc438a2$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> And when I asked if I understood what "you" meant, your only comment was
to tell me that I wrote it.
> Again, I ask for a straight answer. What is it that you are saying has
been done wrong?
>
> TechnoZeus
>
> "linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message
news:3dc437ce at server1.Activeworlds.com...
this
attacks
right to
be
or
she
don't
she
that
to
not
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:50pm
What problem would that be the fact that we set a new record for the most votes ever in a single round of the Cy Awards?
TechnoZeus
[View Quote]"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message news:3dc43922 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> TZ this is soooo stupid you know what the CY probs are stop it you are
> making yourself look soooooo silly LMAO
>
>
> "technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
> news:3dc438a2$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> to tell me that I wrote it.
> been done wrong?
> news:3dc437ce at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> this
> attacks
> right to
> be
> or
> she
> don't
> she
> that
> to
> not
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:53pm
It takes 2 to argue, I understand your worries about the comments directed towards the CY executive team, but thats long gone, we can have the team discuss with the community rules and such at a time closer to the next time, but as of now, If you can demonstrate and show that You are willing to put an end to it, then Linn will have nowhere else to go.
- Mark
[View Quote]"technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message news:3dc4370d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I hear you Mark. I don't want it either, but I think I do have a right to stand up for myself. If the Cy Awards Executive Team, which I happen to be on, is accused of having done something wrong without any details of who or what, then I think it only fair that I should be able to ask what the accusation is. So far she has only been able to indicate that perhaps she may possibly have been talking about the Selection Committee, but I don't even see her backing that up. So if she drops it, I will too... but if she replies with more statements "implying" that I may have done something wrong, then I will again ask what, until she either drops it or answers that one simple question. Maybe I'm carrying this too far, but I'm not used to having my integrity attacked so don't be surprised if I act like this is not an every day occurrance to me.
>
> TechnoZeus
>
> "strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:3dc434da at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:54pm
cough if you want to know what i really think go to email other wise
just stop it here this IS wasting time and energy like talking to a brick
wall when most of us know the truth now that you and bit have said it aloud
[View Quote]"technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
news:3dc43a7f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> What problem would that be the fact that we set a new record for the most
votes ever in a single round of the Cy Awards?
>
> TechnoZeus
>
> "linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message
news:3dc43922 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
are
was
has
is
to
who
the
perhaps
if
something
answers
used
this is
message
Please?
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>
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:56pm
hope you dont bet money on that Strike
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3dc43b60 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> It takes 2 to argue, I understand your worries about the comments directed
towards the CY executive team, but thats long gone, we can have the team
discuss with the community rules and such at a time closer to the next time,
but as of now, If you can demonstrate and show that You are willing to put
an end to it, then Linn will have nowhere else to go.
>
> - Mark
> "technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
news:3dc4370d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
to stand up for myself. If the Cy Awards Executive Team, which I happen to
be on, is accused of having done something wrong without any details of who
or what, then I think it only fair that I should be able to ask what the
accusation is. So far she has only been able to indicate that perhaps she
may possibly have been talking about the Selection Committee, but I don't
even see her backing that up. So if she drops it, I will too... but if she
replies with more statements "implying" that I may have done something
wrong, then I will again ask what, until she either drops it or answers that
one simple question. Maybe I'm carrying this too far, but I'm not used to
having my integrity attacked so don't be surprised if I act like this is not
an every day occurrance to me.
news:3dc434da at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 5:57pm
If you're talking about the "problem" that you quoted, that was done away with before I even became a member of the Cy Awards, so you can thank Weebo and Cyberwitch for doing away with that problem. It also did not involve any of the people currently on the Cy Awards teams, including myself.
Is that it?
TechnoZeus
[View Quote]"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message news:3dc43b6a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> cough if you want to know what i really think go to email other wise
> just stop it here this IS wasting time and energy like talking to a brick
> wall when most of us know the truth now that you and bit have said it aloud
>
>
> "technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
> news:3dc43a7f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> votes ever in a single round of the Cy Awards?
> news:3dc43922 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> are
> was
> has
> is
> to
> who
> the
> perhaps
> if
> something
> answers
> used
> this is
> message
> Please?
>
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 6:03pm
I have demonstrated that. All I ask is a straight answer to the question of what it is that was supposedly done wrong, that I can either except or deny blame for. We'll see if I get it. If it can be shown that I have done something wrong, then I want the chance to make it right. If not, then obviously there was never really anything bad to be said about me in the first place, and we can let it drop.
TechnoZeus
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:3dc43b60 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> It takes 2 to argue, I understand your worries about the comments directed towards the CY executive team, but thats long gone, we can have the team discuss with the community rules and such at a time closer to the next time, but as of now, If you can demonstrate and show that You are willing to put an end to it, then Linn will have nowhere else to go.
>
> - Mark
> "technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message news:3dc4370d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 6:05pm
yes please do since you are perfect and all you really want is the last word
LOL you got it but i have to tell you and all the rest of the CY ppl this
is NOT over by a long shot you just wait and see smart *ss
[View Quote]"technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
news:3dc43d91$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I have demonstrated that. All I ask is a straight answer to the question
of what it is that was supposedly done wrong, that I can either except or
deny blame for. We'll see if I get it. If it can be shown that I have done
something wrong, then I want the chance to make it right. If not, then
obviously there was never really anything bad to be said about me in the
first place, and we can let it drop.
>
> TechnoZeus
>
> "strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3dc43b60 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
directed towards the CY executive team, but thats long gone, we can have the
team discuss with the community rules and such at a time closer to the next
time, but as of now, If you can demonstrate and show that You are willing to
put an end to it, then Linn will have nowhere else to go.
news:3dc4370d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
right to stand up for myself. If the Cy Awards Executive Team, which I
happen to be on, is accused of having done something wrong without any
details of who or what, then I think it only fair that I should be able to
ask what the accusation is. So far she has only been able to indicate that
perhaps she may possibly have been talking about the Selection Committee,
but I don't even see her backing that up. So if she drops it, I will too...
but if she replies with more statements "implying" that I may have done
something wrong, then I will again ask what, until she either drops it or
answers that one simple question. Maybe I'm carrying this too far, but I'm
not used to having my integrity attacked so don't be surprised if I act like
this is not an every day occurrance to me.
news:3dc434da at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 6:06pm
Easy way to sort that.
Can all of us have each others full agreement that we will put a complete and immediate stop to this charade and that we will take up this issue at a time where all parties are present and in agreement as to a location etc, the Newsgroups are not really preferable.
I trust everyone is already doing this, but id also like TechnoZeus and Linn to post and say that this is the end of it until it can be sorted out in a meeting with all parties involved.
- Mark
[View Quote]"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message news:3dc43c0b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> hope you dont bet money on that Strike
>
> "strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3dc43b60 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> towards the CY executive team, but thats long gone, we can have the team
> discuss with the community rules and such at a time closer to the next time,
> but as of now, If you can demonstrate and show that You are willing to put
> an end to it, then Linn will have nowhere else to go.
> news:3dc4370d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> to stand up for myself. If the Cy Awards Executive Team, which I happen to
> be on, is accused of having done something wrong without any details of who
> or what, then I think it only fair that I should be able to ask what the
> accusation is. So far she has only been able to indicate that perhaps she
> may possibly have been talking about the Selection Committee, but I don't
> even see her backing that up. So if she drops it, I will too... but if she
> replies with more statements "implying" that I may have done something
> wrong, then I will again ask what, until she either drops it or answers that
> one simple question. Maybe I'm carrying this too far, but I'm not used to
> having my integrity attacked so don't be surprised if I act like this is not
> an every day occurrance to me.
> news:3dc434da at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 6:08pm
I stated my position on that. If I have nothing to reply to, I'll consider it dropped.
TechnoZeus
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:3dc43e45 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Easy way to sort that.
>
> Can all of us have each others full agreement that we will put a complete and immediate stop to this charade and that we will take up this issue at a time where all parties are present and in agreement as to a location etc, the Newsgroups are not really preferable.
>
> I trust everyone is already doing this, but id also like TechnoZeus and Linn to post and say that this is the end of it until it can be sorted out in a meeting with all parties involved.
>
> - Mark
> "linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message news:3dc43c0b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 6:08pm
Hope that the fishing interpretation and not the slang
[View Quote]"andras" <andras at andras.net> wrote in message
news:3dc43887$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
> Don't feed the troll!!!
>
> Andras
>
> technozeus wrote:
>
I don't want to keep asking. It's just rediculous. If you have nothing to
say, then leave it go and I will consider it a dropped subject. If you
reply, I will be expecting to see an answer or an apology. Take your pick.
it
that's
What is
again
to
forget
its
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 6:10pm
Hey Strike,
I backed out the minute I read a post that showed where some folks
hearts were regarding the CommunitY:)
Why waste my time with them when I can serve those that care for our
CommunitY instead?:)
I reckon it's called shared values?
Anyways...great idea!
Nov 2, 2002, 6:11pm
Well, if it's not over then let's hear it. What is it that you are accusing me of? Isn't that a simple enough question? Answer it, or let it go and in doing so anmit that you were wrong. You have as of yet only thrown empty insults. Put something into one of them, or stop throwing them. I will again ask. What am I accused of?
TechnoZeus
[View Quote]"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> wrote in message news:3dc43e2e at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> yes please do since you are perfect and all you really want is the last word
> LOL you got it but i have to tell you and all the rest of the CY ppl this
> is NOT over by a long shot you just wait and see smart *ss
>
> "technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
> news:3dc43d91$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> of what it is that was supposedly done wrong, that I can either except or
> deny blame for. We'll see if I get it. If it can be shown that I have done
> something wrong, then I want the chance to make it right. If not, then
> obviously there was never really anything bad to be said about me in the
> first place, and we can let it drop.
> news:3dc43b60 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> directed towards the CY executive team, but thats long gone, we can have the
> team discuss with the community rules and such at a time closer to the next
> time, but as of now, If you can demonstrate and show that You are willing to
> put an end to it, then Linn will have nowhere else to go.
> news:3dc4370d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> right to stand up for myself. If the Cy Awards Executive Team, which I
> happen to be on, is accused of having done something wrong without any
> details of who or what, then I think it only fair that I should be able to
> ask what the accusation is. So far she has only been able to indicate that
> perhaps she may possibly have been talking about the Selection Committee,
> but I don't even see her backing that up. So if she drops it, I will too...
> but if she replies with more statements "implying" that I may have done
> something wrong, then I will again ask what, until she either drops it or
> answers that one simple question. Maybe I'm carrying this too far, but I'm
> not used to having my integrity attacked so don't be surprised if I act like
> this is not an every day occurrance to me.
> news:3dc434da at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 6:13pm
Yes, I know how you feel. I've got better ways of spending my time also.
TechnoZeus
[View Quote]"alphabit phalpha" <alphabit at swbell.net> wrote in message news:3dc43f46$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hey Strike,
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> I backed out the minute I read a post that showed where some folks
> hearts were regarding the CommunitY:)
> Why waste my time with them when I can serve those that care for our
> CommunitY instead?:)
> I reckon it's called shared values?
> Anyways...great idea!
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Nov 2, 2002, 6:15pm
Hey TZ...let's get that Cy meeting going shall we?
CW and Weebs and you available tonight?
I think that meeting will definately be a move towards the positive and it
sounds like you need a break sweetie:)
Nov 2, 2002, 6:18pm
Need? Not really... but it does sound nice. :)
TechnoZeus
[View Quote]"alphabit phalpha" <alphabit at swbell.net> wrote in message news:3dc44069$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hey TZ...let's get that Cy meeting going shall we?
> CW and Weebs and you available tonight?
> I think that meeting will definately be a move towards the positive and it
> sounds like you need a break sweetie:)
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