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Mar 2, 2002, 11:30pm

Hey Sun.....
First I'll post your newest grams then I'll comment:)

Telegram from SunOfSolaris, sent 31 minutes ago:
hope this makes you happy, m quitting, i've met some morons in my time but
this place takes the biscuit, m destroying sunland as we speak, i've asked 2
pk's now to terminate my cit and redund my cash, post will be on the NG soon

Telegram from SunOfSolaris, sent 31 minutes ago:
m sure you n the rest of AW will be ohhhhh so pleased, building Lego sets on
my own would be more fun than this moron fulled virtual reality

Telegram from SunOfSolaris, sent 28 minutes ago:
go take a look, and read the ng in a bout 20 mins

First of all...NO...that does NOT make me happy!
I would have preferred you learned to live and share with others that love
AW and nurture it to see it grow.
And I can't speak for the Community, but I can say that they have wonderful
hearts and would maybe have preferred to see anyone enjoy thier time in here
as opposed to creating havoc on others.

I personally would love to see you stay and create...if that is what you
do:)
But you will need some lessons about "the golden rule"...I'm willing to take
you under my guidance if your willing to appologize to BinaryBud and the AW
Community, and seriously "mean" it:)
If not, then good luck on your ventures!:)

FYI...this is NOT a moron filled virtual reality...these are REAL people
with REAL feelings:)

Hugggs:)
Bit:)

Mar 3, 2002, 1:02pm

"But you will need some lessons about "the golden rule"" - oh ? i am fully
aware of the golden rule, that the one that goes "treat others as you would
wish to be treated yourself, do no man a wrong unless he wrongs you, and
then vengeance is yours" ? Well i follow that golden rule to the dot
Alphabit, and Leo has wronged me. So now, although i am not seeking
vengeance, i am seeking that the wrong be put right.

As for making an apology to Leo, you can dream. I will make an apology on
his behalf to the AW community however. I am sorry, on Leo's behalf, that
he had to be such a fool and make a problem he has with me on a personal
level, public via this newsgroup.

"I'm willing to take you under my guidance " - who the hell do you think you
are ??? Look Alpha, i wish you and your clicky little group of friends
would wake up. This is a chat program, you are a user, leo is a user, i am
a user. You are not any thing special. You have both self proclaimed
yourselves. Leo a hardcore programmer, who can "programme in any language
he likes", and you the leader of some group of ppl that you formed. God, i
could go go and find 15 ppl and form some group if i really felt that
heavily about power, but at least i recognise it would mean absolutely
nothing.

get real, wake up, its just a chat program.

i dont deny the ppl are real in here, but so am i, and you all treat me the
way you are doing so in this newsgroup and i will treat you all in EXACTLY
the same manner. I wont read any of your posts properly, and i will just
insult the hell out of every word you say. Its no biggy, i can play the
same games you do. If you want to be ignorant and fail to read what others
say and take it in, thats your LOOK OUT.

Sun

Mar 3, 2002, 2:03pm

listen Chris, the only problem i had with you is you were praying on
innocet citizens that's my story and i'm sticking to it. and thanx for
making it obvious that i was dead right on my call. you were caught get
over it.
Leo :)



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Mar 3, 2002, 2:06pm

Yes Bud, thats your "story" i am sure.

i have explained my self time in and time out. What you think now is
largely irrellevant. You coming the big man at me, and making a lot of
false claims and attempting dirty public slurring tactics is what is the
point.

i am still waiting for you to support your claims. all you have done so
far is type a lot of wind, whilst i have supported my self time and time
again.

prove your words and let this all end.

Sun

Mar 3, 2002, 2:11pm

Bud wait, let me try n remember the transcript of the conversation that
happened in AWGate that you are referring to having "caught" me.

it went along the lines of a young lad who was supposed to meet his teacher
in the world to partake in an assignment, prior to him saying such i had
already been fooling around like a prize. Once the lad mentioned this
intention of meeting his teacher my words were along the lines of

"LMAO, oh heh wait"
"I am your teacher dood, like errrrrrrr"
"today we going to learn bout passwords"
"yuh yuh"
"now then sonny you typed in a password to get in here didnt you"
"what was that password LMFAO"

do you really really really THINK, that if i was attempting to get some one
to give me their password i would take the piss outta the person that i was
sposed to be emulating, let alone fool around in the room prior to doing it
??????????????????

yes people, this is exactly what your great legendary BinaryBud is causing
all the fuss over !!!!!! NOTHING .......... the kid even said at the same
time "yeah sure right you are lol". He took it as the joke it was, nothing
more. BinaryBud how ever saw it as a chance to try and prove to some one
how great he thinks he is and to cause all this trouble.

this is totally pathetic

Sun

Mar 3, 2002, 2:50pm

Ya just don't get it do you?

IF you knew anything about me then you would know that I give anyone the
benefit of the doubt and then some.
IF you knew anything about my psyche you would know that I see positives to
any negatives.
I saw a negative accusation and I gave you the benefit of the doubt and came
to meet you.
Upon meeting you I felt you were a nice person...UNTIL you came in and got
rude upon entry in a meeting. And then followed it with silly grams.
You say this is just a chat room?
It's time for you to be educated sweetie:)
Maybe it would enlighten you to be party to some things that have happened
here in AW that have helped folks through hard times emotionally.
Maybe it would be beneficial to you to visit some of the companies who are
introducing the concept of virtual healing and coping via chat rooms.
Do a search on the Net sweetie.....you never know what you might learn about
chat rooms just NOT being chat rooms.
The only thing virtual about AW is the medium we use as real people.
Maybe a telephone being used for a person to cry about a lost loved one or
world concerns can be considered "just a telephone"? Not real people using
it?
Think OUTSIDE the box please:)
Visit some card sites Sun. See how people express their "real" emotions via
"just a chat room".
If you are planning to make a site for folks to chat...I STRONGLY suggest
you learn about people. Hmmmm......are you intending on your customers being
"real" people or just "virtual" people?
As far as you referring to me thinking I am "special"....you Sir need to
know me better before making that accusation:)
I am just Bit....just a reflection of my friends:)
I belong to no "click", unless you consider the AW Community and all my real
life friends a "click".
Aren't "clicks" a small secluded group of people?
I am NOT a leader.
I prefer to share through nurturing:)
Once again, I treated you with kindness when I first met you.
You supplied the catalyst that made this into something I preferred would
not have occured.

Mar 3, 2002, 3:15pm

You Bit, need to get out a lil more.

I agree with all your points tho. But the only people i have a problem
with are the ppl who are sitting in this newsgroup slurring and judging,
with absolutley NO evidence accept for some sore loser's word. Being as
the ppl who are posting hear appear to be the long serving citizens of AW it
would appear to me that the marjority of AW are now being biased against me.
Wake up on this one, some one actually said in the newsgroup that BinaryBud
has been around an awful long time and would accept his word over sun's any
time.

You see Bit, it only takes for a few well known, for what ever reason, ppl
in AW, such as yourself and Bud, to go makeing claims to cause a huge
problem for another citizen with in AW. You think i am wrong huh ??
Please explain to me then why i already have one other person explaining
that a situation much similar to this happened to them and now they are
almost reclused, spending much of their time in their own private world,
becos if they were to come out ppl such as those involved in this newgroup
would hammer the crap out of them ? is what what you call virtual healing
Bit ??? Is that the brilliant AW Community that you talk about ? And
while we are on the subject of Communities, who exactly was who voted you in
as government ?

You see this time Bit, Bud and all of you can say what you like, until you
support any of it, it really doesnt worry me, and being that none of it is
as you or binarybud would have it, it cant be supported in the way you are
telling it, so my worrying is none.

I can keep this up for as long as need be, you carry, you and Bud and who
ever else wants to. Continue to attempt slur and bs tactics with me and i
will continue to write in reponse. :) Unfortunately it appears to be
blatently obvious that alot of you dont like direct home truths being
mentioned in a public forum.

cheers

Sun

Mar 3, 2002, 3:36pm

> You Bit, need to get out a lil more.

I do get out...in fact...got a rodeo and stage show to do this week.
Just got home from a trip to Oregon.
King Tex and I are in the process of building a fountain and heavily working
in our yard.
During the week I work at different companies as an Admin Asst.
We take nice relaxing drives in the country.
:)

>
> I agree with all your points tho. But the only people i have a problem
> with are the ppl who are sitting in this newsgroup slurring and judging,
> with absolutley NO evidence accept for some sore loser's word.

My judging comes from hard fact experiance with you. With witnesses present
as evidence.

Being as
> the ppl who are posting hear appear to be the long serving citizens of AW
it
> would appear to me that the marjority of AW are now being biased against
me.

IMHO the bias is being created by your behavior in here.

> Wake up on this one, some one actually said in the newsgroup that
BinaryBud
> has been around an awful long time and would accept his word over sun's
any
> time.

BinaryBud has aquired a reputation in AW after many years of "giving" to
others. They are probably trusting him based on experiance.

>
> You see Bit, it only takes for a few well known, for what ever reason, ppl
> in AW, such as yourself and Bud, to go makeing claims to cause a huge
> problem for another citizen with in AW. You think i am wrong huh ??

Yes you are wrong. You can attribute people's feelings towards you based
again upon your behavior in here.

> Please explain to me then why i already have one other person explaining
> that a situation much similar to this happened to them and now they are
> almost reclused, spending much of their time in their own private world,
> becos if they were to come out ppl such as those involved in this newgroup
> would hammer the crap out of them ?

At one time I also avoided this newsgroup (for a very short period of time).
My late husband Alpha Phalpha insisted on it as he didn't want to see me get
flamed. I chose instead to participate and take the flaming as just
expression of folks opinions, and respect thier opinions:)

is what what you call virtual healing
> Bit ???

Nope and I never mentioned flaming as being virtual healing now did I?:)

Is that the brilliant AW Community that you talk about ? And
> while we are on the subject of Communities, who exactly was who voted you
in
> as government ?

No one voted me in as Govt. I am NOT Govt.
Now if'n ya wants to know some history of how I became to coordinate the Cy
Awards....just ask:)

>
> You see this time Bit, Bud and all of you can say what you like, until you
> support any of it, it really doesnt worry me, and being that none of it is
> as you or binarybud would have it, it cant be supported in the way you are
> telling it, so my worrying is none.

Witnesses are my support of my claims.

>
> I can keep this up for as long as need be, you carry, you and Bud and who
> ever else wants to.

Is this going to be like a 30 inning baseball game?:)....btw careful
Sun...you CAN'T keep this up forever if the moderator decides you are
crossing a line.


Continue to attempt slur and bs tactics with me and i
> will continue to write in reponse. :)

Not slur nor bs....facts sweetie:)

Unfortunately it appears to be
> blatently obvious that alot of you dont like direct home truths being
> mentioned in a public forum.

You lost me on that one.....oh well:)

Mar 3, 2002, 3:57pm

Alpha

how did this all begin ?

i will tell you, Bud making far too many assumptions and claims and
initiating a flaming thread, thats how.

if Bud had never had done that in the first place none of this would even
have be an issue.

You would never have come to my room, i would have never have come to yours
n joked around, you would have never have ejected me, and i would have had
no need to say a few words via telegram. You can say that your bias is due
to my behaviour in this newsgroup all you like AlphaBit, however the fact
still stands that if the thread has never have been started in the first
place with a pack of false accusations, slurring and lies, i would never
have had the need to defend myself would i now ? And up until the point of
a supposed mass AW onslaught of Sun, which doesnt really appear to get you
any where, i had been perfectly civil with in the group.

Your judging love, comes from experience and personal perception, NOT,
experience and HARD FACTS. Infact your judging comes from experience and
an already biased perception. So i would put it to you that you are
hardly well qualified to judge me at all.

The community that i talk off is the one that has pushed some one out(not
me, although you are all having a good old try) to the point where the
person now sits in his own private world for fear of further flaming from
the likes of ppl such as you and Binary.

Perhaps the very fact that i havent been removed from posting yet would
suggest something to you Alpha sweetie ;) Perhaps its just the ppl with in
the group(bar a few) that seem to be having difficulty grasping the concept
of me defending myself agains constant bs, lies and false accusations.

hope you enjoy your day in the yard building your fountain, and glad you had
a nice day at the rodeo :) hope you wore something nice out, you know like
the black leather outfits that i like chix in :)

cheers

Sun

Mar 3, 2002, 4:10pm

> how did this all begin ?
>
> i will tell you, Bud making far too many assumptions and claims and
> initiating a flaming thread, thats how.
>
> if Bud had never had done that in the first place none of this would even
> have be an issue.

Ummmm...somehow I think if it hadn't been BinaryBud...it would have been
someone else that would have posted the warning in here.

>
> You would never have come to my room,

Doubtful...I visit alot of new worlds:)

i would have never have come to yours
> n joked around, you would have never have ejected me, and i would have had
> no need to say a few words via telegram. You can say that your bias is
due
> to my behaviour in this newsgroup all you like AlphaBit, however the fact
> still stands that if the thread has never have been started in the first
> place with a pack of false accusations, slurring and lies, i would never
> have had the need to defend myself would i now ?

Reality is it DID happen...now to figure out how to resolve it:)

And up until the point of
> a supposed mass AW onslaught of Sun, which doesnt really appear to get you
> any where, i had been perfectly civil with in the group.
>
> Your judging love, comes from experience and personal perception, NOT,
> experience and HARD FACTS. Infact your judging comes from experience and
> an already biased perception. So i would put it to you that you are
> hardly well qualified to judge me at all.

grrrrrr......ignorance is one of my pet peeves:(

>
> The community that i talk off is the one that has pushed some one out(not
> me, although you are all having a good old try) to the point where the
> person now sits in his own private world for fear of further flaming from
> the likes of ppl such as you and Binary.

You really have me curious as to who has chosen to be a recluse because of
ng flaming. I know they or you won't share and respect that privacy, just
wish there was a way to help them come out and see the beauty in most folks
here. And please...don't lump me into the group of folks that expressed
thier opinions here that ended up hurting anyone. That isn't part of my
makeup:)

>
> Perhaps the very fact that i havent been removed from posting yet would
> suggest something to you Alpha sweetie ;) Perhaps its just the ppl with
in
> the group(bar a few) that seem to be having difficulty grasping the
concept
> of me defending myself agains constant bs, lies and false accusations.

The line hasn't been crossed yet has it?...Hey...anyone got a charter handy?

>
> hope you enjoy your day in the yard building your fountain, and glad you
had
> a nice day at the rodeo :) hope you wore something nice out, you know
like
> the black leather outfits that i like chix in :)

Well...thanks but we have to wait till weather is a little warmer before we
finish the fountain. I'll post some pics when it's done if you wish:) (Mind
you...we are NOT pros at this sorta thing!)
Rodeo is this coming week and I don't own black leather.....too much tummy
to wear it.....*leaving those fashions to the young ladies*...:)....thinking
maybe just good old blue jeans and a tshirt!

Mar 3, 2002, 4:29pm

AlphaBit

firstly you are guilty of the re-posting thing that all were making such a
moan about when i was doing such, kindly live by the "self proclaimed
moderators of the group's rules". It keeps the group sweet. Which is why
i compare AW to a fascist world, being run by a number of ppl who have self
proclaimed themselves government. Nether the less, that is a by the by
comment now, already covered that one in a previous post.

Not so sure about some one else having done it, i would credit the majority
of being able to spot some tom foolery, and be able to differentiate it from
hacking. The rest of the ppl in AWGate were able to, was only BinaryBud
came accusing me of all sorts.

Resolution, Bud either supports all of his claims and stops skipping around
AW like some kind of grand master *trying* to lay down the law with other
users. Further to that, Bud supports all the claims he has made, both the
personal attack ones on myself and the claims to all of his supposed
"knowledge", admits to his lies and shares with us which things he said that
were lies, and which werent. That's a resolution for you, a wrong put
right.

Well with your judgements so far, and abillity to realise that a
reputation/length of time with in AW does not warrant instant credibility, i
am finding it hard to beleive that ignorance is one of your pet peeves.
Maybe it is, but you dont show this too well.

Yes the line was crossed long ago. This should have all be sorted out
between Bud and myself in telegrams where it all started and if Bud hadnt
have felt the need to try n publicly slurr and lie about me, which, i am
sure he *thought* was going to get rid of me and return his little bubble of
arragance back to its former state, then there would have been no need for
any of this. The line was cross the moment the man clicked send on that
initial post of slurrs and lies. The sooner he withdraws his accussations
and admits specifically to his lies and supports ANY of his claims that he
says arent lies, then the issue is over.

I'm glad you had a good time at the rodeo, and cant wait to take a look at
the photos once the fountain is complete.

cheers

Sun

p.s. hands up for freedom of speach, i wonder how long before the supposed
democracy that support freedom of speach is violated when AW remove me from
being able to post ?

Mar 3, 2002, 5:54pm

hey your arguing with AlphaBit not me quit using me as a crutch get
over me i'm done exposing you...:)

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Mar 3, 2002, 5:58pm

LOL...I personally am getting lost as to who is talking to whom...so I think
I'll take a small vacation from all this and get some house cleaning
done....maybe:)

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Mar 3, 2002, 6:08pm

Your done exposing me ? lmao my words again Bud :)

but if you are done, can i just ask you one thing ?

when exactly did it happen ??

cos as of yet, the only thing this newsgroup shows is you are full of bs,
you wont/cant support ANY of your claims.

cheers

Sun

Mar 3, 2002, 6:44pm

Those who feel the need to explain every move and word, more often than not
are the one's with something to hide.

Besides, I thought you said you were leaving? Just leave if your going to
go.

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Mar 3, 2002, 7:34pm

i refer you to previous posts

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