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Still Complaining About Prices? (Community)
Still Complaining About Prices? // Community
Feb 12, 2002, 3:59pm
unless the AW have patented the AW protocol (fat chance of that...) they
have no rights over him, since he's just using a protocol that happens to be
compatible with the AW browser. Trillian are legal too, they just got the
protocols, and wrote implementations of them. As long as Gav doesn't try to
abuse the knownledge of the AW protocol (for example using a modified
browser in AW universes), he hasn't done anything wrong. Feople, I wouldn't
recommend trying to sue him...
KAH
[View Quote]"sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
news:3c6899f4 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Oh, I see. But it still was accessable by the Active Worlds browser,
right?
> If so, it's still questionable, but Trillian is doing something similar,
so
> there's no definite legal right or wrong about it right now.
>
> SW Chris
>
> "gavroche" <gav at vrg8.com> wrote in message
> news:3c6850bc$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
that
> (Which
> EXE
> past.
and
he
> your
access
I
> 10,
....
> L
being
> in
> them
worlds.
from
> close
> friends.
> help
> Software.
> in
> universe
> that
> invitation
the
was
>
>
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Feb 12, 2002, 4:09pm
> I cant wait to see the amazement on my face when your product becomes
> amazing. : )
LOL! stop being a piss taker :) cant blame em for tring.. but ur right, they
should be working on making this community stronger, instead of making a new
one :)
SWE
narrow minded little boy in a big wide world :)
www.emptyco.com
Feb 12, 2002, 5:01pm
You know this all started by me telling people to stop bitching about AW
because if they had unanswered complaints then they should do something
about it, like start a new piece of software. Seems simple to me. That
statement is actually in AW's defense.
As for me trying to take OW for everything they had, you obviously have no
clue what OW was or is or who created it.
Tried more than once to create my own versions of AW software? Show me
because for the life of me I can't remember ever programming any of that. I
would love to see something I have done in the past that I dont even
remember.
As for court, well that is so funny I wont even go there. If I receive
notice I Will be there. hehehe
--
Thanks,
Derek Rayburn
derek at cyboria.com
[View Quote]"robbie" <robbie at oriox.com> wrote in message
news:3c694c5f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Derek, you really are pathetic...Gav is going to kill you in that court,
and
> I'll be there to back him up, and don't be suprised if Roland is too.
>
> You really are immature somtimes. When it bares down to it, your just a
> bitter miser who attempted to take OW for everything they had, and has
tried
> more than once to create your own versions of Active Worlds software.
>
> I can't wait to see you in court, idiot.
>
> -Robbie
>
> "punky feople" <derek at cyboria.com> wrote in message
> news:3c68db71$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
a
> with
about
> you
anyhow,
> even
cracking
to
on
of
my
of
you
> to
> and
> restrictions
> enough
how
> to
He
> World
Gav
> to
now
attempts
> out
responsible
browser
get
do
to
it.
in
> things,
> some
Microsoft
a
making
then
> AWLD
to
don't
> else,
"educational
> the
> applied
a
or
party.
of
date
> the
> accepted
> universe
> possession
sign
> my
have
citizenships
> Gavroche,
of
caused
Worlds
> universe
> server
protocol
> universe
volunteered
> to
> "cloned"
hacks
> to
not
> worlds.
cloned
> created
in
what
>
>
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Feb 12, 2002, 5:10pm
I am not going to sue him, never mentioned it myself. I could care less if
he hacks AW. I simply said "I would testify in a court of law" as a show of
how I know for a fact that he distributed a hacked universe server (through
email not on a webpage). Someone else has to care enough about AW to take
him to court then I will simply show up and testify.
Actually it seems that now he wants to sue me for saying things he didn't
like reading in a newsgroup. LOL boy a judge is going to love having his
time wasted on that one.
Its simple, like I mentioned before, I told people to stop bitching about
AW and do something about it if they felt that strongly about the crap going
on. Gav comes in and tries to discredit me...so if he had not opened his
mouth I would have let my knowledge of him slip away into the night but
instead he wants to start a pissing match. While he is pissing in every
direction, I simply say I know for a fact and could "for example" prove in a
court of law that he did distribute a hacked version of the aw universe. I
never said anything about OW and anyone that does is clueless, I never said
anything about protocols or XW or hosting universes or anything else, all I
said is what I know.
Have a nice day =^)
--
Thanks,
Derek Rayburn
derek at cyboria.com
[View Quote]"kah" <kah at kahnews.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3c6957f6 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> unless the AW have patented the AW protocol (fat chance of that...) they
> have no rights over him, since he's just using a protocol that happens to
be
> compatible with the AW browser. Trillian are legal too, they just got the
> protocols, and wrote implementations of them. As long as Gav doesn't try
to
> abuse the knownledge of the AW protocol (for example using a modified
> browser in AW universes), he hasn't done anything wrong. Feople, I
wouldn't
> recommend trying to sue him...
>
> KAH
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
> news:3c6899f4 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> right?
> so
AW
> that
the
and
no
remember
> and
that
> he
of
> access
if
> I
AWST
> ...
> being
the
allowed
> worlds.
> from
and
seen
> the
> was
>
>
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Feb 12, 2002, 7:25pm
I never said it was "funny", just interesting and ridiculous. Here you are,
two people, both of questionable nature, going into court. I can't tell for
the life of me who's going to come out on top, or if both of you have to
settle for something. But you're both in the doghouse, and that's all I
will say about that.
Let AWNews know if you supeona Mr Rayburn, and where we can find the details
of the case on the Internet, via news agency or otherwise, if it even gets
posted on the WWW.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"punky feople" <derek at cyboria.com> wrote in message
news:3c696698 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> You know this all started by me telling people to stop bitching about AW
> because if they had unanswered complaints then they should do something
> about it, like start a new piece of software. Seems simple to me. That
> statement is actually in AW's defense.
>
> As for me trying to take OW for everything they had, you obviously have no
> clue what OW was or is or who created it.
>
> Tried more than once to create my own versions of AW software? Show me
> because for the life of me I can't remember ever programming any of that.
I
> would love to see something I have done in the past that I dont even
> remember.
>
> As for court, well that is so funny I wont even go there. If I receive
> notice I Will be there. hehehe
> --
> Thanks,
> Derek Rayburn
> derek at cyboria.com
>
> "robbie" <robbie at oriox.com> wrote in message
> news:3c694c5f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> and
> tried
not
> a
> about
figure,
> anyhow,
> cracking
system
> to
universe
> on
court
> of
via
> my
> of
|
> you
product
> how
> He
3.2
> Gav
attempt
> now
> attempts
found
> responsible
a
> browser
> get
didn't
> do
> to
> it.
has
> in
> Microsoft
produce
> a
> making
> then
There
that
attempts
> to
> don't
your
> "educational
to
this.
the
its
> a
each
up.
cloned
> or
> party.
bytes
> of
> date
in
Not
> sign
and
> have
> citizenships
09,
> of
> caused
> Worlds
2
> protocol
> volunteered
closest
> hacks
Worlds
> not
> cloned
any
> in
> what
>
>
Feb 12, 2002, 7:56pm
I know exactly what OW was and who created it. I understand your side of
that whole situation, but don't agree with some of the actions you took and
the lengths at which you went to.
I never said you acutally created AW software, but you damn well tried. I
don't think Gav would mind me mentioning the dubious amounts of money you
offered him to move to the US and begin work on a new project for you.
Although I admit I don't know at length the details of the project you had
planned.
What I know for sure is that you make accusations like you have in this
string referring to unsubstancial and/or non-existant evidence. You are very
quick to demand evidence when people make accusations against you, but
y'know I would be more interested in seeing what you have to offer in the
form of solid evidence that Gavroche has done any of the things you accuse
him of.
-Robbie
[View Quote]"punky feople" <derek at cyboria.com> wrote in message
news:3c696698 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> You know this all started by me telling people to stop bitching about AW
> because if they had unanswered complaints then they should do something
> about it, like start a new piece of software. Seems simple to me. That
> statement is actually in AW's defense.
>
> As for me trying to take OW for everything they had, you obviously have no
> clue what OW was or is or who created it.
>
> Tried more than once to create my own versions of AW software? Show me
> because for the life of me I can't remember ever programming any of that.
I
> would love to see something I have done in the past that I dont even
> remember.
>
> As for court, well that is so funny I wont even go there. If I receive
> notice I Will be there. hehehe
> --
> Thanks,
> Derek Rayburn
> derek at cyboria.com
>
> "robbie" <robbie at oriox.com> wrote in message
> news:3c694c5f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> and
> tried
not
> a
> about
figure,
> anyhow,
> cracking
system
> to
universe
> on
court
> of
via
> my
> of
> you
product
> how
> He
3.2
> Gav
attempt
> now
> attempts
found
> responsible
a
> browser
> get
didn't
> do
> to
> it.
has
> in
> Microsoft
produce
> a
> making
> then
There
that
attempts
> to
> don't
your
> "educational
to
this.
the
its
> a
each
up.
cloned
> or
> party.
bytes
> of
> date
in
Not
> sign
and
> have
> citizenships
09,
> of
> caused
> Worlds
2
> protocol
> volunteered
closest
> hacks
Worlds
> not
> cloned
any
> in
> what
>
>
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Feb 12, 2002, 8:13pm
I agree, it's like listening to two loudmouths argue on how to be quiet. ;)
Nornny
[View Quote]"sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
news:3c698846 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I never said it was "funny", just interesting and ridiculous. Here you
are,
> two people, both of questionable nature, going into court. I can't tell
for
> the life of me who's going to come out on top, or if both of you have to
> settle for something. But you're both in the doghouse, and that's all I
> will say about that.
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Feb 13, 2002, 1:02pm
"....no! I was hold my phone in the other you dirty minded at $% at £$..."
u dont have to deny it, its the most natural thing any male teen could do :)
be one with nature i say :)
SWE
narrow minded little boy in a big wide world :)
www.emptyco.com
Feb 13, 2002, 2:41pm
heh, maybe i can drop by sometime when i go to england? gimme some details,
never seen someone get sued before :).
SWE
narrow minded little boy in a big wide world :)
www.emptyco.com
[View Quote]"robbie" <robbie at oriox.com> wrote in message
news:3c694c5f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Derek, you really are pathetic...Gav is going to kill you in that court,
and
> I'll be there to back him up, and don't be suprised if Roland is too.
>
> You really are immature somtimes. When it bares down to it, your just a
> bitter miser who attempted to take OW for everything they had, and has
tried
> more than once to create your own versions of Active Worlds software.
>
> I can't wait to see you in court, idiot.
>
> -Robbie
>
> "punky feople" <derek at cyboria.com> wrote in message
> news:3c68db71$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
a
> with
about
> you
anyhow,
> even
cracking
to
on
of
my
of
you
> to
> and
> restrictions
> enough
how
> to
He
> World
Gav
> to
now
attempts
> out
responsible
browser
get
do
to
it.
in
> things,
> some
Microsoft
a
making
then
> AWLD
to
don't
> else,
"educational
> the
> applied
a
or
party.
of
date
> the
> accepted
> universe
> possession
sign
> my
have
citizenships
> Gavroche,
of
caused
Worlds
> universe
> server
protocol
> universe
volunteered
> to
> "cloned"
hacks
> to
not
> worlds.
cloned
> created
in
what
>
>
|
Feb 13, 2002, 2:47pm
LOL! what case do u have over copyright u dont even own? hey i think i might
sue this shop in libya for having a pirated version of windows XP!think bout
it, its like saying someone owns u a mill cuz they borrowed 900k from
someone u dont even know!
sorry, just find it wierd :)
SWE
narrow minded little boy in a big wide world :)
www.emptyco.com
[View Quote]"punky feople" <derek at cyboria.com> wrote in message
news:3c68db5f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Proceed away. I have the proof and will present it either to a lawyer or
to
> a judge. Besides the hacked universe you sent was a full copy of the AW
> code complete with their embeded copyrights. But you had changed the
> universe with a hex editor to allow unlimited land and unlimited users.
>
> Derek Rayburn
> 711 Signal Mountain Rd
> #165
> Chattanooga, TN 37405
>
> hehe
> --
> Thanks,
> Derek Rayburn
> derek at cyboria.com
>
> "gavroche" <gav at vrg8.com> wrote in message
> news:3c6787a5 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
me,
> cant
if
> one.
the
server
this
> law.
bitter
> the
> why
on
I
> Guardian
also
> somewhere.
had
> sends
to
they
> company
> needed
> quite
it,
> light
> The
the
> once
of
> responsible
> patch
> sure
upgrades,
let
support...
would
> has
> exert
> server
> happened.
> and
somewhere.
When
things...
> to
> shame
other
the
and
no
remember
> and
that
> he
of
> access
if
> I
AWST
> ...
> being
the
allowed
> worlds.
> from
and
seen
the
was
>
>
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Feb 13, 2002, 4:45pm
oops, never mind, as i said, narrow minded boy me, misunderstode the
wholeeee thing, please dont take notice to my last post :)
[View Quote]"swe" <m_swehli at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3c6a9893 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> LOL! what case do u have over copyright u dont even own? hey i think i
might
> sue this shop in libya for having a pirated version of windows XP!think
bout
> it, its like saying someone owns u a mill cuz they borrowed 900k from
> someone u dont even know!
>
> sorry, just find it wierd :)
> SWE
> narrow minded little boy in a big wide world :)
> www.emptyco.com
>
> "punky feople" <derek at cyboria.com> wrote in message
> news:3c68db5f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
or
> to
with
> me,
you
even
> if
> the
> server
> this
> bitter
to
and
restrictions
> on
enough
> I
to
> also
World
> had
to
> to
out
> they
> it,
> the
things,
some
> of
> upgrades,
> let
> support...
> would
AWLD
else,
> somewhere.
the
> When
> things...
applied
> other
> the
> and
the
accepted
> no
universe
> remember
possession
> that
> of
my
> if
> AWST
Gavroche,
> the
> allowed
universe
server
> and
universe
to
"cloned"
to
> seen
worlds.
created
> the
> was
>
>
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Feb 21, 2002, 2:29am
LOL ok SWE, besides it was Gav that wants to sue me because he doesn't like
something I said hehe.
Just waiting on him to sue me.
--
Thanks,
Derek Rayburn
derek at cyboria.com
[View Quote]"swe" <m_swehli at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3c6ab431 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> oops, never mind, as i said, narrow minded boy me, misunderstode the
> wholeeee thing, please dont take notice to my last post :)
>
> "swe" <m_swehli at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3c6a9893 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> might
> bout
> or
AW
users.
> with
about
> you
anyhow,
> even
cracking
to
on
of
my
of
you
> to
> and
> restrictions
> enough
how
> to
He
> World
Gav
> to
now
attempts
> out
responsible
browser
get
do
to
it.
in
> things,
> some
Microsoft
a
making
then
> AWLD
to
don't
> else,
"educational
> the
> applied
a
or
party.
of
date
> the
> accepted
> universe
> possession
sign
> my
have
citizenships
> Gavroche,
of
caused
Worlds
> universe
> server
protocol
> universe
volunteered
> to
> "cloned"
hacks
> to
not
> worlds.
cloned
> created
in
what
>
>
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