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Feb 9, 2002, 10:06am

Greetings & Salutations Fellow AW Citizens,
When I first heard this anounced, I was stunned.
I had to ask several times to get JP to clarify what this meant.

To me, as a current citizen, thinking when / if I leave AW for whatever
reasons my builds, Rain Forrest ( ha ha ) , and Real Estate would be deleted
in one fell swoop just would not register in my mind.

To think all the time, energy and love put into those build would disapear
in one brief moment........Well, the thought was apauling to say the least.

Then I read the newsgroup items and started thinking again. ( dangerous ) *
veg*

I remembered one of the reasons why it was I mailed in my $19.95 for 2
......yes that's right TWO years of AW citizenship !

It was becaused we were PROMISED ....Citizens...REGISTERED CITIZENS would
have the right to DELETE NAC PROPERTY on or about December of 1997.

That promise was never honored...for whatever reasons.

I propose they HONOR that PROMISE.... and institute that policy
NOW...rather than their plan of having it done by a bot.

I would not be afraid that ALL my land marked as NAC after I left would be
deleted, ( there's just too much of it ) but if a registered citizen came
across something they felt they just had to delete or wanted to complete a
build of their own, so be it, fair is fair.

It would also empower the entire AW Community the ability to clean up some
of the garbarge they come across in their travels.
Thus saving the GET Team the trouble. * smile *

I'm sure there will be a few assholes that have nothing better to do than go
around deleting NAC but I can't see anyone doing that for too long without
getting bored.

Sooooo... What'd ya think ...Is this a plan ?
Sincerely
Doug
Dmc2u - XTeam ATL

Feb 9, 2002, 5:48pm

Sounds like a good plan. Anything that involves the removal of trash made
by dead beat citizens is a-ok by me.

Feb 9, 2002, 6:22pm

Hey DMC, you have to realize that some of us city owners aren't very fond of
this because our property would get deleted. And most cities are not the
crap that you are talking about deleting, they're actually worth keeping
around.

SW Chris

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Feb 9, 2002, 7:28pm

Chris...
I totally understand that there is much NAC builds that are worth keeping
And I believe that could be work for the AWHS.
Sites submitted .. and put under the protection of AWHS.
But at least my way it would have a chance of remaining indefinately...
whereas their way ...POOF ! it's gone !"

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Feb 9, 2002, 11:58pm

Good point. :)

SW Chris

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Feb 10, 2002, 5:10am

It all comes down to that if SW Chris, DMC2U, or me or whoever left right now
for somereason, rather it death, war, or whatever that more important then aw,
and it be a few months and you expire you lose your stuff. All those years of
stuff, it kind amakes big hholes int he community. Like taking out half the
cities in the world. when you set out do destroy property you dont know what
your doing. you dont know what is behind what your deleting. Its a bad move.
I am sorry we build so much that it is harming the servers. Why cant
everything just stay. if anything Rid property marrked NAc. other then that
AWcom promised not to delete / Lol Damn I need to step away from the beer and
go to bed
Dusk

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>
> SW Chris
>
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Feb 12, 2002, 3:05pm

If a citizen has the right to delete NAC property then they could have the right
to adopt it too and thus preserve anything that was worthy by making it there
own before it was wiped.

[View Quote] > Greetings & Salutations Fellow AW Citizens,
> When I first heard this anounced, I was stunned.
> I had to ask several times to get JP to clarify what this meant.
>
> To me, as a current citizen, thinking when / if I leave AW for whatever
> reasons my builds, Rain Forrest ( ha ha ) , and Real Estate would be deleted
> in one fell swoop just would not register in my mind.
>
> To think all the time, energy and love put into those build would disapear
> in one brief moment........Well, the thought was apauling to say the least.
>
> Then I read the newsgroup items and started thinking again. ( dangerous ) *
> veg*
>
> I remembered one of the reasons why it was I mailed in my $19.95 for 2
> .....yes that's right TWO years of AW citizenship !
>
> It was becaused we were PROMISED ....Citizens...REGISTERED CITIZENS would
> have the right to DELETE NAC PROPERTY on or about December of 1997.
>
> That promise was never honored...for whatever reasons.
>
> I propose they HONOR that PROMISE.... and institute that policy
> NOW...rather than their plan of having it done by a bot.
>
> I would not be afraid that ALL my land marked as NAC after I left would be
> deleted, ( there's just too much of it ) but if a registered citizen came
> across something they felt they just had to delete or wanted to complete a
> build of their own, so be it, fair is fair.
>
> It would also empower the entire AW Community the ability to clean up some
> of the garbarge they come across in their travels.
> Thus saving the GET Team the trouble. * smile *
>
> I'm sure there will be a few assholes that have nothing better to do than go
> around deleting NAC but I can't see anyone doing that for too long without
> getting bored.
>
> Sooooo... What'd ya think ...Is this a plan ?
> Sincerely
> Doug
> Dmc2u - XTeam ATL

Feb 12, 2002, 6:26pm

Mmmm... I'd go for that ... good idea... but not sure if AWCOM would.
Cheers
Dmc2u
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Feb 12, 2002, 7:07pm

My thinking for JP's comments was so that the Garbage Elimination Team could
be a little more lenient when someone wants an object or group of objects
deleted. Before, you couldn't even delete a wall because it had too much
"structure". Now they could possibly have the authority to delete it if
it's just a shabby old shack that someone left behind. Which makes me
happier because I've got a stupid mini-town in the middle of my land in SW
City that I've been wanting deleted for a long time now.

Keep in mind, no confirmation on this yet.

SW Chris

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Feb 12, 2002, 9:12pm

Chris.... I was at the meeting.....believe me ... there was no thought given
at all to the GET.

Under this new rule....NAC dated before Jan 2 2002 would not be touched.

"The way it stands right now. If an existing user lets they citizenship
expire, then yes they would fall under the same program as new users who let
they citizenship lapse and they woule loose their properties. An already
expired user would not be subject to that program as they would not have had
any knowledge that their stuff could be lost if they left AW."

"no DMC. I said that NAC will not be touched as it would be unfair to
delete the property of someone who does not know that if they had let they
citizenship expire it could get deleted "

My Point is ... When the # at $%$ was I notified that if I remained a citizen
after Jan 2, 2002 that sooner or later my property would be deleted ?
Existing users were never given the chance to retire their current accounts
in order to preserve their property.

I think this whole issue should be re - thought because I for one will not
be a happy camper if this stays in effect.
Cheers
Dmc2u



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Feb 12, 2002, 11:46pm

An amazing option is to not build in alpha world, then (if the owner was a
fine person) would be able to settle NAC and land claim problems quickly and
efficienty.

Feb 13, 2002, 1:25am

moff piett
Sad to say ...
I believe this affects all AWCOM worlds, not just AW ...
but Mars, Yellow, COF meta, etc etc ...


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Feb 13, 2002, 4:12am

Alpha world... Mars.. Yello.. COFmeta..

It's like you somehow knew all my most disliked worlds and put them in order
of despiseatude (new word!). Actually not quite, would go Yellow, Alpha
world, Mars, Cofmeta. But very close!

Actually for its age Cofmeta isn't too bad. I'd slip wildaw in before it,
although I'm not sure if that counts since it's just alpha world but with no
PKs and a bad attitude and a rather wooden gz (pun very much intended). Oh
my now my list is totally mixed up... look what you've done now!

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Feb 13, 2002, 4:21am

JP, you're on my creeps list if you don't do some explaining here... Flagg,
help! Get his attention or something! :( I know he's busy, but this is
ridiculous.

Are you going to do regular wipes of the worlds databases?
If not, then what's this policy for?
If so, how are you going to deal with all the unhappy customers?

Have you realized that most of your customers would like some advance notice
on these decisions so they can have some say in them before they actually go
into effect?

It's my opinion, and a lot of other folks' opinion around here that doing so
will increase consumer confidence in your leadership abilities and perhaps
have a hand in saving the company, should it be in danger (as is the belief
around here). It's a new leadership model that's rather successful. Take
for example Southwest Airlines. The president asked its employees what they
wanted to do. Most volunteered to work for free to keep Southwest on its
feet. So far, they're the only ones making any substantial progress after
Sept. 11.

Why did you say this?
Why did you not go to the community with this, butg talk with the
Peacekeepers about it?
Surely you know word would trickle out from that meeting?

SW Chris

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Feb 13, 2002, 5:11pm

Don't want to start a riot, but did anyone find the no delete on NAC a bit
strange?

Wonder if that is cause the owners and their friends have NAC property?

If company is trying to be fair, be fair across the board :o)

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Feb 13, 2002, 7:55pm

If I think what I think you're saying, then yes, no deletions period would
be nice, with the exception of greater leniency for the Garbage Elimination
Team. :)

SW Chris

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