Ongoing boycott (Community)

Ongoing boycott // Community

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katerine

Jan 8, 2002, 10:02pm
Hi there,

Like there is still no answer, news or anything at all form awc yet, it
becomes obvious that they don't care about our requests. If petitions,
posts, mails and so on are worthless, we might start to "hit where it
hurts". Meaning a boycott of aw.

All french speaking worlds have been closed (turned red) since today
(tuesday) but it's not enough so we don't connect as user at all to aw.
Only 3 french speaking worlds are not following, taking the opportunity
that the other ones are on purpose closed or down. No comment.

Closing the worlds is not enough and that won't affect aw.
Seeing hardly any users connected might affect them a bit more.

The purpose is not even to ask them to lower the prices (I think it's
worthless) but to make them remove the mandatory CC information thing
which seems way more fatal in consequences than the raise of the prices.

The french speaking community is quite small (less than 20 worlds) so
this boycott need to be massively followed.

If everybody is yelling and expresses his disagreement, how many are
willing to make a little sacrifice to can see the aw we like back?

If you want to help with the boycott, turn your worlds in red and don't
connect to aw untill they finally "dare" to say something relevant to
their users.

If you want to chat with your friends, you can use bots,not
counted as user connected.

Hoping that you'll follow, thank you for reading

Cat

swe

Jan 8, 2002, 10:16pm
Ok, im not no aw lover. but there running a buissness, and so they wont give
a flyinf f*** about no pention or anything like that lol. i mean,do u goto
microsoft and complain but the price of there products? i mean like windows
ME, the onlything it had more then win 98 is windows media player
pre-installed and lots of bugs. And do u think they accieved being able to
sell that by listening to pentions? cuz i dont.
another thing,aint no one in aw gonna boycot aw, believe me :)

SWE
PS.please dont no one go flaming me. i repeat,aint no AW managment lover or
ass kisser!

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foxmccloud

Jan 8, 2002, 10:22pm
Message in french follows, since the only people interested will be french-speaking people (it's about a french-speaking universe)

Salut ! Si jamais ça t'intéresse (tu le savais peut etre, mais ça peut en intéresser d'autres), il existe un univers entièrement
francophone nommé cyberbrain (aussi connu sous le nom de Village 3D), on existe depuis 3 ans et on a pas mal de citoyens (rien de
comparable à AW mais ya une super ambiance :) ), et on ne changera pas les prix. Par contre on reste à la version 3.0 depuis un
moment à cause du prix trop élevé de l'upgrade, mais bon c'est déjà bien. Tu peux télécharger le browser sur www.levillage.org (et
d'ailleurs on a meme un journal hebdomadaire en ligne + un journal papier distribué en kiosque ;) )
Note : je gagne pas d'argent là dedans, mais je suis un des modérateurs de l'univers (Adjoint à la Mairie comme on appelle ça dans
notre petit monde)

Fox Mc Cloud le Gaulois

"katerine" <removethisailleurs at ailleurs3d.com> a écrit dans le message news: Xns9191973781BDnospambrrcom at 166.90.181.12...
>
> Hi there,
>
> Like there is still no answer, news or anything at all form awc yet, it
> becomes obvious that they don't care about our requests. If petitions,
> posts, mails and so on are worthless, we might start to "hit where it
> hurts". Meaning a boycott of aw.
>
> All french speaking worlds have been closed (turned red) since today
> (tuesday) but it's not enough so we don't connect as user at all to aw.
> Only 3 french speaking worlds are not following, taking the opportunity
> that the other ones are on purpose closed or down. No comment.
>
> Closing the worlds is not enough and that won't affect aw.
> Seeing hardly any users connected might affect them a bit more.
>
> The purpose is not even to ask them to lower the prices (I think it's
> worthless) but to make them remove the mandatory CC information thing
> which seems way more fatal in consequences than the raise of the prices.
>
> The french speaking community is quite small (less than 20 worlds) so
> this boycott need to be massively followed.
>
> If everybody is yelling and expresses his disagreement, how many are
> willing to make a little sacrifice to can see the aw we like back?
>
> If you want to help with the boycott, turn your worlds in red and don't
> connect to aw untill they finally "dare" to say something relevant to
> their users.
>
> If you want to chat with your friends, you can use bots,not
> counted as user connected.
>
> Hoping that you'll follow, thank you for reading
>
> Cat

foxmccloud

Jan 8, 2002, 10:25pm
I agree that boycott is not an option. Just pay if you find it reasonable, don't if you think it's not acceptable, and if too many
people think the price is too much, our message of disagreement to them will come soon enough in the form of a reduced paycheck for
them.

Fox Mc Cloud

"swe" <m_swehli at hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c3b8be5 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Ok, im not no aw lover. but there running a buissness, and so they wont give
> a flyinf f*** about no pention or anything like that lol. i mean,do u goto
> microsoft and complain but the price of there products? i mean like windows
> ME, the onlything it had more then win 98 is windows media player
> pre-installed and lots of bugs. And do u think they accieved being able to
> sell that by listening to pentions? cuz i dont.
> another thing,aint no one in aw gonna boycot aw, believe me :)
>
> SWE
> PS.please dont no one go flaming me. i repeat,aint no AW managment lover or
> ass kisser!

goober king

Jan 8, 2002, 10:34pm
Methinks both of you need a heavy dose of reality (not the virtual kind). :P

As other people have pointed out about the so-called World Closing
boycott, not logging in to AW won't mean diddly to AWC. In fact, they
are probably expecting this to happen, as people who can't afford to pay
the higher prices let their citships run out. The only thing that a
boycott will affect is the AW community by making it stagnant and
boring. Now ask yourself this: Is it really worth sacrificing the
lifeblood of the AW community in some vain attempt at getting AWC to
reverse its policies (something that has *never* happened in AWC's
history)? I think not.

And as for you, SWE, comparing AW to Microsoft is like comparing a leaky
dinghy to the USS Roosevelt. Microsoft has never even been close to
filing for bankruptcy, and has almost never been in a position where it
*had* to make massive amounts of money quickly. Besides, it's not as if
they jack up prices spontaneously. Generally, once a price is set on
their product, it stays that way (or goes lower). It's not as if they
charged $50 for Windows 95 and then jacked up the price to $200 last
month. :P

And I don't care how old you are, but you really could stand to start
taking some English classes. Hell, Kathrine's English is better than
yours, and its not even her native language!

[View Quote] > Ok, im not no aw lover. but there running a buissness, and so they wont give
> a flyinf f*** about no pention or anything like that lol. i mean,do u goto
> microsoft and complain but the price of there products? i mean like windows
> ME, the onlything it had more then win 98 is windows media player
> pre-installed and lots of bugs. And do u think they accieved being able to
> sell that by listening to pentions? cuz i dont.
> another thing,aint no one in aw gonna boycot aw, believe me :)
>
> SWE
> PS.please dont no one go flaming me. i repeat,aint no AW managment lover or
> ass kisser!
>
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--
Goober King
What are they teaching kids these days?!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

foxmccloud

Jan 8, 2002, 10:38pm
I'll still translated just for the record ;) (cause it's frustrating not to be able to understand a news message)
<I kept the original form which was directed to katerine>

If you're interested (maybe you already knew about it, but others might be interested), there's an entirely french-speaking universe
called cyberbrain (aka Village 3D), we've been there for 3 years and have quite a few citizens (not much compared to AW, but there's
a good atmosphere overall :) ), and we won't ever change the prices (which are the same as in AW). Although, we're blocked at
version 3.0 because the upgrade price is too much, 3.0 is ok anyway. The browser can be downloaded at www.levillage.org (we even
have a weekly online newspaper and a monthly printed one, sold in kiosks ;) )
N.B. : I don't make any money out of this universe, but I'm one of the universe moderators (deputy to the mayor as we're called in
our world)

Fox Mc Cloud

lilalpha phalpha

Jan 8, 2002, 10:44pm
Hehehe, if you really, really wanna read this just goto
"world.altavista.com" and you can translate it there. Nothing really
important to us english users, tho. But just in case you were curious about
what is said...

LilAlpha Phalpha


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swe

Jan 8, 2002, 10:54pm
oh tis gonna be like that huh? lol well anyway its not my native language!i
am libyan,i was only boren in england,and lived there for a while :) and i
know how to spell, i just am very tired,and dont really feel like using me
head right now :). well anyway,u cant forget that microsoft was a small
company,and yes they did come close to bankrupcy once. hells thats probelly
the only reason they went to ibm for windows 1.0! an they did jack up there
prices,check the price of win 95 or 98,then look at win2k pro,or xp pro! :)

SWE

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bowen

Jan 8, 2002, 11:00pm
LoL the following is correct. Windows 95 was originally $100. Win 98, ME,
and 2K brought that to around $150. XP is now $200 for the home version.
They seem to progressivly worse as you get on.. 2K was a good one though, as
was 98SE. They really need to invest the time that they used to in
developing a new product. It's seeming to take less then half a year for a
new windows to come out over the past year and a half.

--Bowen--

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foxmccloud

Jan 8, 2002, 11:01pm
Is windows a paying product?
oops.

Fox Mc Cloud

"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c3b9619$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> LoL the following is correct. Windows 95 was originally $100. Win 98, ME,
> and 2K brought that to around $150. XP is now $200 for the home version.
> They seem to progressivly worse as you get on.. 2K was a good one though, as
> was 98SE. They really need to invest the time that they used to in
> developing a new product. It's seeming to take less then half a year for a
> new windows to come out over the past year and a half.
>
> --Bowen--

lilalpha phalpha

Jan 8, 2002, 11:30pm
or not.... he translated it for us LOL
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brant

Jan 8, 2002, 11:36pm
I'm sorry, Goober, but I'm getting tired of people continuing to rattle on
about how we need to "keep the community going," and that we "should
perserve in the face of difficulties," and similar things. Since when is it
solely our responsibility to keep AW running? If AW wants to raise the
prices, then they should keep the community going.

It's contridictory to disagree with the price raise, and then state that you
will stick with AW "until the end." If you don't like AW, then leave - it's
not your responsibility to maintain the community.

Closing worlds WILL have an impact on AW, even if it's not immediately
apparent. Unlike online games where the company pays people to design the
game and you simply play through it, in AW citizens are the ones who create
the content. Thus, by closing all of the French speaking worlds in the
universe, perhaps a few French speakers will decide that AW simply isn't
worth the money because nobody is around speaking French. In this regard, I
find it ridiculous that AW management will be charging citizens these
exorbitant fees to create content for their universe. Volunteering with no
exchange of money is fine, and a minimal fee like the $20.00 a year is still
acceptable, but is paying $10.00 a month to help out their business? Media
executives pay people big bucks to do the sort of things that you do every
day :)

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blasto

Jan 9, 2002, 12:13am
Oh come on! I'm serious here, you all sound like a bunch of wining babies!
(I'll try to make this post without swearing)

Get real now! AWC can't help it if you guys are becoming unreal and won't
accept the fact that they must raise the prices to stay in business or that
they want to make money. If you owned AWC I'm sure you'd do as much as you
could do get more money. If you can monopilise the business, then you sure
as heck will! That's how life works! Don't boycott, you're just wasting your
time typing like crazy thinking they actually care what you think! If you
care that much to boycott against it, than they figure you must like it
enough that you'll pay the cash anyway! Some people around here are just
getting stupid! It doesn't help to yell at them about it. They would only
get scared about it if you didn't say anything, shrugged your shoulders, and
left AW without a problem. They know you love AW, they know you can't stay
away and you spend every waking moment building in your worlds. They know
that you were going to rebel and boycoot. That is why they also know that
you will all come back and pay the money.

It took me till just now to realise this but I now know exactly what they're
getting at. You all love AW so much that you can't leave. If you make any
more than $500 a year, chances are you'll spend $114 of it on AW. Even the
teens can't leave, they'll mow lawns and get jobs to stay here. You're all
addicted. Believe me, if you'll boycott like this and waste your time when
you could be in AW enjoying your time while it lasts, you'll fork over $100
a year.
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lilalpha phalpha

Jan 9, 2002, 2:17am
Finially, somone shares my point of view :)

Lil



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foxmccloud

Jan 9, 2002, 2:33am
> [...] you'd do as much as you could do get more money.
> If you can monopilise the business, then you sure as heck
> will! That's how life works! [...]

Is really THAT your vision of life? Is really doing as much money as you can your goal in life? Don't you think there are things
that are more important?

Fox Mc Cloud

foxmccloud

Jan 9, 2002, 2:33am
"lilalpha phalpha" <lilalpha_aw at yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c3bc46b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Finially, somone shares my point of view :)
>
> Lil

*shivers*
are there others like that out there? :P

Fox Mc Cloud

paul

Jan 9, 2002, 2:51am
if the price stays at 120 a year you watch and see if I don't leave come
May 2003.
The majority of people are not going to pay that kid of money for a
chat/building environment.
There are other universes not to mention Adobe Atmosphere will continue to
grow and improve since it is much more integrated into the web browser.
I would like to see AWCom come to their senses and do some smart business
management to get things back to normal, but if they want to raise their
prices to a ridiculous level then let them. I can go else where and make my
models and sell them. I like AW best but it won't kill me to leave.

Paul

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foxmccloud

Jan 9, 2002, 3:00am
By the way, what are your impressions about Atmosphere?
I tried it a bit... and it... well... sucks. It's ugly and unintuitive (and I hate things integrated in the browser instead of a
good old stand alone app that you have more control over)

How does everyone feel about this? And what about other existing 3d chat programs?

Fox Mc Cloud

macb

Jan 9, 2002, 4:17am
AW was ugly and unintuitive when I started using it. I struggled and
struggled to get walls to line up, didn't know most of the object names.
I went through a LONG learning curve with Truespace (plus it crashed
regularly for me until R5).

Anyway, Atmosphere will improve, and, unless they suddenly decide to can
the project will have lots of money behind it to make it a success.
They also seem to be listening to users.. very easy to engage them in a
dialog. They even read and post to their own newsgroups (what a concept!!).

There are a number of open source initiatives in the 3D area that will
also eventually bear fruit. The fact that many of the animation studios
are switching over to Linux based rendering engines... well what can
that mean but more 3D stuff to choose from over there.

IRC is alive and kicking after all these years, and the server and
client software are rather sophisticated these days (and source code is
downloadable). Rendering engine + Chat program + bit of glueware. I
expect to see things for Linux, Apple, and maybe even Windoze in a year
or so. Don't forget... we may be throwing away our PCs and using game
consoles in the future. The X-box and Playstation future version will
not only have 3D built in, but be full time internet connections with
full blow operating systems (Linux). (Don't forget the graphics on the
Playstation are Renderware already!) The PC really is becoming an
appliance (look at those new Macs!!). The future is now my friends.

As someone reminded me today.... I love AW. But the company as far as
I can tell has cut itself off from its user base. It's been like that
so long that I don't expect it to change. Ever.

Boycott... strike... petition... fast... won't make any difference.
They ain't listening. Sit back and watch, and wait. That's all we
can do.

Be on the lookout for other ways to spend your time.


[View Quote] > By the way, what are your impressions about Atmosphere?
> I tried it a bit... and it... well... sucks. It's ugly and unintuitive (and I hate things integrated in the browser instead of a
> good old stand alone app that you have more control over)
>
> How does everyone feel about this? And what about other existing 3d chat programs?
>
> Fox Mc Cloud
>
>
>

foxmccloud

Jan 9, 2002, 4:45am
"macb" <zzzzz at zzzz.zzz> a écrit dans le message news: 3C3BE140.8020302 at zzzz.zzz...
> Don't forget... we may be throwing away our PCs and using game
> consoles in the future.

Uh... well, it won't be the case for me at least ;) It's too much a pleasure to build your own sweet computer, lovingly, carefully
choosing each part and spending hours and hours monintoring benchmark sites.... :)
Consoles are fun to a certain extent, but they just don't have the same goals as computers.

As for what you said about AW, well, sure AW was ugly back in 1997 when I discovered it, but we're now in 2002, and if I understood
well they don't support 3D cards? how can that be? That's a really stupid design decision in my opinion...

Fox Mc Cloud

swe

Jan 9, 2002, 5:35am
i agree,atmosphere really sucks, i mean up until i saw that(sometime in the
begining of summer) ,i used to complaim about aw's graphics :)

SWE

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blasto

Jan 9, 2002, 12:03pm
*wonders in which direction this thread has gone and then suddenly points
south* LOL :-D
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goober king

Jan 9, 2002, 12:12pm
I never said it was *solely* our responsibility to keep the company
above water. I'm sure AWC has some sort of plan (after all, you can't
expect them to put on marketing campaigns and hire ad execs if they
don't have any money, now can you? :P), and I'll continue to support
them until I'm the last man standing. I've invested over five years of
time and effort in this community and I'm not going to see it die just
because a few panic-happy people are killing off their part of the
community.

Look at it this way (using your French world example): Where did the
first French people come from? Whoever got the French portion of the AW
community going obviously wasn't put off by the fact that there were no
other French people. So just because a bunch of French worlds shut down
does not mean that other French people won't come and pay.

What do you think will happen? "Oh no!" Rick exclaims, "Three more
worlds have gone red! Whatever shall we do?!" Get real, Brant. AWC has
already gotten all the money it's going to get out of those worlds
(until next year, at least), so why should they care if they close down?
The only people who would care are the people who frequently visit that
world, and I doubt they'd be very happy if the world owner shut it down
simply because of a futile protest. Who do you think all the kiddies
would blame if you decided to shut down AWTeen in protest, hmm?

Do you expect Valve to create and maintain all the Halflife and Team
Fortress clans? Do you expect the Everquest guys to run all the auctions
for their in-game items? Do you think all the video game companies
should be running IGN? The only responsibility AWC has is to the
product, and to make sure it's the best damn product they can make. It's
not their fault a community decided to spring up around their product.
Don't get me wrong, they should still listen to us, since we use their
product, but it's not as if I think they should be expected to run
ComReg, AWHS, and everything else in the AW community. Simply put, AWC
gets people to come here, the community *keeps* people coming here.
That's how it's always been, and that's how it will always be.

[View Quote] > I'm sorry, Goober, but I'm getting tired of people continuing to rattle on
> about how we need to "keep the community going," and that we "should
> perserve in the face of difficulties," and similar things. Since when is it
> solely our responsibility to keep AW running? If AW wants to raise the
> prices, then they should keep the community going.
>
> It's contridictory to disagree with the price raise, and then state that you
> will stick with AW "until the end." If you don't like AW, then leave - it's
> not your responsibility to maintain the community.
>
> Closing worlds WILL have an impact on AW, even if it's not immediately
> apparent. Unlike online games where the company pays people to design the
> game and you simply play through it, in AW citizens are the ones who create
> the content. Thus, by closing all of the French speaking worlds in the
> universe, perhaps a few French speakers will decide that AW simply isn't
> worth the money because nobody is around speaking French. In this regard, I
> find it ridiculous that AW management will be charging citizens these
> exorbitant fees to create content for their universe. Volunteering with no
> exchange of money is fine, and a minimal fee like the $20.00 a year is still
> acceptable, but is paying $10.00 a month to help out their business? Media
> executives pay people big bucks to do the sort of things that you do every
> day :)
>
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--
Goober King
Vainly trying to hold back the tide of chaos with his pinky...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

holistic1

Jan 9, 2002, 12:57pm
Well put goober king.

Holistic1

[View Quote] > I never said it was *solely* our responsibility to keep the company
> above water. I'm sure AWC has some sort of plan (after all, you can't
> expect them to put on marketing campaigns and hire ad execs if they
> don't have any money, now can you? :P), and I'll continue to support
> them until I'm the last man standing. I've invested over five years of
> time and effort in this community and I'm not going to see it die just
> because a few panic-happy people are killing off their part of the
> community.
>
> Look at it this way (using your French world example): Where did the
> first French people come from? Whoever got the French portion of the AW
> community going obviously wasn't put off by the fact that there were no
> other French people. So just because a bunch of French worlds shut down
> does not mean that other French people won't come and pay.
>
> What do you think will happen? "Oh no!" Rick exclaims, "Three more
> worlds have gone red! Whatever shall we do?!" Get real, Brant. AWC has
> already gotten all the money it's going to get out of those worlds
> (until next year, at least), so why should they care if they close down?
> The only people who would care are the people who frequently visit that
> world, and I doubt they'd be very happy if the world owner shut it down
> simply because of a futile protest. Who do you think all the kiddies
> would blame if you decided to shut down AWTeen in protest, hmm?
>
> Do you expect Valve to create and maintain all the Halflife and Team
> Fortress clans? Do you expect the Everquest guys to run all the auctions
> for their in-game items? Do you think all the video game companies
> should be running IGN? The only responsibility AWC has is to the
> product, and to make sure it's the best damn product they can make. It's
> not their fault a community decided to spring up around their product.
> Don't get me wrong, they should still listen to us, since we use their
> product, but it's not as if I think they should be expected to run
> ComReg, AWHS, and everything else in the AW community. Simply put, AWC
> gets people to come here, the community *keeps* people coming here.
> That's how it's always been, and that's how it will always be.
>
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brant

Jan 9, 2002, 1:01pm
[View Quote] I never said that ALL of the french people in the entire universe would
leave instantly. I said that, perhaps, a few new citizens who know how to
speak French and don't know much about computers will leave because they
don't see any French worlds around.

>
> What do you think will happen? "Oh no!" Rick exclaims, "Three more
> worlds have gone red! Whatever shall we do?!" Get real, Brant. AWC has
> already gotten all the money it's going to get out of those worlds
> (until next year, at least), so why should they care if they close down?
> The only people who would care are the people who frequently visit that
> world, and I doubt they'd be very happy if the world owner shut it down
> simply because of a futile protest. Who do you think all the kiddies
> would blame if you decided to shut down AWTeen in protest, hmm?

I never said that AW's upper management would even know. How could they
possibly keep track of such a thing? They might never notice that three
citizens left, but in the end the act of shutting those worlds down will
have contributed in some small way to showing their displeasure.
Furthermore, if the visitors to these worlds are disgruntled, then all the
better for the protest, because these French visitors might not stay around
either if the
worlds aren't up. Finally, AWTeen is a completely different type of entity
that is owned by AWC and has nothing to do with a few french worlds shutting
down, so it's completely irrelevant to the discussion.

>
> Do you expect Valve to create and maintain all the Halflife and Team
> Fortress clans? Do you expect the Everquest guys to run all the auctions
> for their in-game items? Do you think all the video game companies
> should be running IGN? The only responsibility AWC has is to the
> product, and to make sure it's the best damn product they can make. It's
> not their fault a community decided to spring up around their product.
> Don't get me wrong, they should still listen to us, since we use their
> product, but it's not as if I think they should be expected to run
> ComReg, AWHS, and everything else in the AW community. Simply put, AWC
> gets people to come here, the community *keeps* people coming here.
> That's how it's always been, and that's how it will always be.

None of these examples fit the current situation. Sure, Halflife players
create their own teams and clans, but they're not designing the acutal game;
i.e. spending hours creating objects to create an arena. If all of the
teams in Halflife fell apart, I'm sure that some people would be
disgruntled, but most people would simply stay and play by themselves. In
AW, the
citizens create the objects and build the worlds themselves. If all the
worlds by private citizens fell apart, then who would want to come to a
Universe where there are no worlds or builds other than AlphaWorld GZ and
other places made by AWC staff members?

>
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swe

Jan 9, 2002, 1:50pm
Ya Goob. You tell him! Lol. Weren't you two best friends or something?


Well anyway AW. has over 800 worlds which were bought,so why would they care
bout 3? You people have to realize that this isn't your fancy USA democracy
crap no more. This is AW! Where protests don't matter :).
And another thing, you can't expect AW to somehow make this universe work
without any input from the community. We all have to get up, stop nagging,
and help the community by telling your friends about AW, or advertising on
your, and you friend's websites, or even street corner. Maybe even get your
school to check out AW, and they can use it in computer classes, or for art
and architecture and other stuff.

SWE
Nothing but a 15 year old. :)


PS. hope u like my spelling Goob. Puncuated and spelt everything properly
just for you. :) know stop complaining bout my spelling!!!

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holistic1

Jan 9, 2002, 1:58pm
<snip>

[View Quote] > Nothing but a 15 year old. :)
>
> PS. hope u like my spelling Goob. Puncuated and spelt everything properly
> just for you. :) know stop complaining bout my spelling!!!
>

We are proud of you...{pats swe on the head} :)

Holistic1



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goober king

Jan 9, 2002, 3:44pm
Last I checked, friends were allowed disagree on things. Maybe it's
different in your neck of the woods, eh? :P

And for the record, I wasn't just complaining about your spelling. :P

[View Quote] > Ya Goob. You tell him! Lol. Weren't you two best friends or something?
>
>
> Well anyway AW. has over 800 worlds which were bought,so why would they care
> bout 3? You people have to realize that this isn't your fancy USA democracy
> crap no more. This is AW! Where protests don't matter :).
> And another thing, you can't expect AW to somehow make this universe work
> without any input from the community. We all have to get up, stop nagging,
> and help the community by telling your friends about AW, or advertising on
> your, and you friend's websites, or even street corner. Maybe even get your
> school to check out AW, and they can use it in computer classes, or for art
> and architecture and other stuff.
>
> SWE
> Nothing but a 15 year old. :)
>
>
> PS. hope u like my spelling Goob. Puncuated and spelt everything properly
> just for you. :) know stop complaining bout my spelling!!!
>
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Goober King
With friends like these...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

swe

Jan 9, 2002, 4:53pm
ooh \:| and what else where u complaining bout?
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goober king

Jan 9, 2002, 8:57pm
I was complaining about your English, which includes all aspects of the
language, including grammar, punctuation, spelling, and sentence
structure. I guess I need to complain about your reading comprehension
skills too! ;P

[View Quote] > ooh \:| and what else where u complaining bout?
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--
Goober King
Wow... That was an Eep moment...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

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