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Oct 24, 2001, 6:31am

You can now download the first public beta of my RWXViewer... As its name states, it's a beta, and all is not implemented yet.
But you can try it out and drop me an email to tell me what works or doesn't, what features you'd like to see, etc...
Note that the primitives (Cube, Sphere, etc... ) are not yet implemented, and that avatars don't work yet either.
Unzipping is not yet supported either, and you have to do some simple steps at hand since there is no installer for now...
You need a 3d graphics accelerator with OpenGL support, no software or Direct3D mode !

If you still want to try it after all these warnings, follow the link : http://fox.d2g.com/ :)
The link is, well, somewhere in the page... lol... It's a beta so it's not like I want everyone to download it and receive thousands
of bug reports in my email :P
I'll be glad to receive some, though. Be sure to include information about your hardware and software If you do report a bug.

Fox Mc Cloud

Oct 24, 2001, 10:20am

lol,u sure its ready for beta testing? doesnt seem like theres much stuff to
test :)

SWE(327320)
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Oct 24, 2001, 11:13am

A simple reminder:
Is it safe or what?
Smart Programmer Motto:
Why running an exe you do not know where it comes from?
icey

[View Quote] > You can now download the first public beta of my RWXViewer... As its name states, it's a beta, and all is not implemented yet.
> But you can try it out and drop me an email to tell me what works or doesn't, what features you'd like to see, etc...
> Note that the primitives (Cube, Sphere, etc... ) are not yet implemented, and that avatars don't work yet either.
> Unzipping is not yet supported either, and you have to do some simple steps at hand since there is no installer for now...
> You need a 3d graphics accelerator with OpenGL support, no software or Direct3D mode !
>
> If you still want to try it after all these warnings, follow the link : http://fox.d2g.com/ :)
> The link is, well, somewhere in the page... lol... It's a beta so it's not like I want everyone to download it and receive thousands
> of bug reports in my email :P
> I'll be glad to receive some, though. Be sure to include information about your hardware and software If you do report a bug.
>
> Fox Mc Cloud

Oct 24, 2001, 2:37pm

Safe... well it won't crash your system and doesn't contain a virus :)
It has crashed on me only on 1 file so far (bill.rwx)... I'm trying to fix it...

Fox Mc Cloud

"icey" <icey at altavista.net> a écrit dans le message news: 3BD6BCC9.B2CBCB38 at altavista.net...
> A simple reminder:
> Is it safe or what?
> Smart Programmer Motto:
> Why running an exe you do not know where it comes from?
> icey

Oct 24, 2001, 2:40pm

What do you mean? the program runs well for me, so I do this so other people can try if it works for *them* too, that's beta testing
isn't it ? :)
I've already had a few friends test it and they had no problem

Fox Mc Cloud

"swe" <m_swehli at hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3bd6b20f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> lol,u sure its ready for beta testing? doesnt seem like theres much stuff to
> test :)
>
> SWE(327320)

Oct 24, 2001, 2:51pm

lol... From the answer of swe and re-reading that mail, I guess it sounds quite negative... only talking about what's not
supported... lol
that was not to disappoint you if you find out your objects don't work or the program doesn't run for you :)
But it DOES load and display nearly all objects fine with texturing, transparency, lighting, masking, prelighting, optional AW-like
parameters to make it look like it's in your AW world (ambient and directional lights, fog, backdrop and ground...), etc...

Try it ! :)

By the way, a friend of mine tells me the program doesn't run on his Voodoo3... anyone can confirm this or maybe it comes from an
other problem? Does voodoo3 run fine on AW3.2 OpenGL mode?

Fox Mc Cloud

"foxmccloud" <FoxMcCloud at cyberbrain.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3bd67c56$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> You can now download the first public beta of my RWXViewer... As its name states, it's a beta, and all is not implemented yet.
> But you can try it out and drop me an email to tell me what works or doesn't, what features you'd like to see, etc...
> Note that the primitives (Cube, Sphere, etc... ) are not yet implemented, and that avatars don't work yet either.
> Unzipping is not yet supported either, and you have to do some simple steps at hand since there is no installer for now...
> You need a 3d graphics accelerator with OpenGL support, no software or Direct3D mode !
>
> If you still want to try it after all these warnings, follow the link : http://fox.d2g.com/ :)
> The link is, well, somewhere in the page... lol... It's a beta so it's not like I want everyone to download it and receive
thousands
> of bug reports in my email :P
> I'll be glad to receive some, though. Be sure to include information about your hardware and software If you do report a bug.
>
> Fox Mc Cloud
>
>

Oct 24, 2001, 5:03pm

If you check out the web-page, you'll see what it DOES include. How
ungrateful can you get?

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Oct 24, 2001, 5:48pm

I have a Voodoo 3 3000. Let's just say that in OpenGL mode my graphics are
fuzzy. But in Direct3D mode they are fine. This in in aw3.2 mind you. I
haven't tested your program. :)
--
SW Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html

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Oct 24, 2001, 6:22pm

How can you tell it doesn't contain a virus? There's no way to know for
sure, and worse yet, someone could pull a Radon and sneak in some code that
steals your PW if you tell AW to remember your password :)

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Oct 24, 2001, 6:55pm

Errr... I can tell noone did that because *I* am the author of the program !! lol
And I do check my computer for viruses regularly :)

Fox Mc Cloud

"brant" <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> a écrit dans le message news: 3bd722fb$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> How can you tell it doesn't contain a virus? There's no way to know for
> sure, and worse yet, someone could pull a Radon and sneak in some code that
> steals your PW if you tell AW to remember your password :)

Oct 24, 2001, 7:21pm

Didn't Roland say he made the encryption sort of machine-specific to help prevent that sort of thing? Plus, if you're that paranoid, don't save your password.

-Agent1

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Oct 24, 2001, 7:53pm

Why is this an issue? If you don't want it or trust Fox, then don't download
it. Simply really.

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Oct 24, 2001, 8:29pm

[View Quote] There is one sure way to make the downloaders comfortable: Offer the source code :)
I know not all programmers like to do that (I usually do for the sake of trust) but if you don't want to make money with it - this is the secure way to go.

Andras
P.S.: Epp - don't complain! This is the best security you can have against trojans!

Oct 24, 2001, 9:18pm

emm,ok heres the thing,,maybe just maybe i was just joking
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Oct 25, 2001, 12:08pm

It could be simply a back door
icey

[View Quote] > Didn't Roland say he made the encryption sort of machine-specific to help prevent that sort of thing? Plus, if you're that paranoid, don't save your password.
>
> -Agent1
>
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Oct 25, 2001, 1:13pm

what could? the RWX viewer? the point Agent1 proved was that even if it was
a trojan that had fun stealing your password you wouldn't be able to decrypt
it without having the same machine setup as the person it was stolen from.
the password in aworld.ini is encrypted you know, Roland isn't stupid...

KAH

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Oct 25, 2001, 1:14pm

that's Criterion's sucky OGL engine, don't trust their old stuff to be the
same as any other engine...

KAH

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Oct 25, 2001, 3:19pm

Well the Voodoo series wasn't built with OpenGL in mind, mind you. It was
built to take advantage of Direct3D.
--
SW Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html

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Oct 25, 2001, 3:43pm

It was built to take advantage of Glide, 3dfx's proprietary API :)

By the way, anyone has had trouble or success using the program? not much feedback yet even though 32 ppl downloaded it :)
If you got trouble with it it would be nice to contact me via ICQ (#13371469) so we can talk faster and I can fix the problem...

Fox Mc Cloud

"sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3bd849ab$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well the Voodoo series wasn't built with OpenGL in mind, mind you. It was
> built to take advantage of Direct3D.
> --
> SW Chris

Oct 25, 2001, 5:07pm

Oh right. I knew it wasn't OpenGL. :)
--
SW Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html

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Oct 25, 2001, 9:28pm

I downloaded it last night fox and it works great. I have tried several
other rwx viewers from other sites in the past and had no problems and no
errors getting the programs to run. I'm very happy with this program.
Thanks for taking the time to write it. I'll find it useful for working on
objects on my local drive. If it's any concern, the hardware I'm running
the viewer on is a HP Pavilion 366mhz/64megs RAM and a ATI All-In-Wonder 3D
card running the latest video driver from their site. I would say no
feedback from the others is good news? (success) :)

Ox64

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Oct 26, 2001, 10:13am

I think we're all just software hoarders .. heh heh.


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Oct 27, 2001, 9:01pm

Ok I did run across a problem earlier today when I tried to view a skybox
object off of AWGate's object path:

http://objects.activeworlds.com/awgate/models/sky_plain0900.zip

"RWX has caused an error in kernel32.dll" on Windows ME.

Don't know if it's just me or if it happens with anyone else, but thought I
would pass this along if you were interested.

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