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Aug 10, 2001, 11:31pm

It seems to me that everyone's problems, including mine, are all based
on one simple thing: misunderstanding. It was a misunderstanding that
started the whole New York/Broadway mess, leading to the destruction of
trust and friendships. It was a misunderstanding that led to Facter
nearly banning, permanently, one of the newsgroups most... visible
residents. And it was a misunderstanding that turned what I thought was
going to help bridge the (non-existent?) gap between community and
company into an entity that was out to instead destroy both.

Well, I for one am tired of being misunderstood and of misunderstanding
everyone else. I would have liked to think we were all intelligent human
beings, capable of comprehension, understanding, and most importantly,
compromise. But sadly, the misunderstandings of the past run so deep
that it's almost impossible for either side to take the other at it's word.

There is, however, hope. Someone has decided to take it upon himself to
try and break down the walls of misunderstanding and try to start a new
relationship between the company and the community. That man is none
other than Rick Noll. He may not know it, but his actions here in this
NG speak volumes and proves to me, as it should for everyone else here,
that he is truly interested in getting the community out of this cloud
of misunderstanding and back on the right track. If this is truly a
trend in the making, then I commend Rick on his efforts, and I can only
hope we'll be able to see his face around these parts more often.

I failed because I was operating under the same cloud as everyone else.
Even though my intent was honest, my clouded thoughts and feelings wound
up ruining everything. But Rick is above this cloud because he knows
what's going on. It's now up to him to help lift this veil of confusion
and supposed conspiracy and bring this community back to where it
belongs. If anyone can do it, it's him.

P.S. I'd also like to take this time to publicly apologize to Rick for
posting his letter to me in the NG. Had I known it was meant solely as a
personal response, I would not have posted it. Just one more
misunderstanding to add to the pile... :-/

--
Goober King
Misunderstood since 1980...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 11, 2001, 1:57am

I don't agree with your first paragraph. I was there, there was no
misunderstanding. More like an out right lie to cover up the truth is more like
it. As far as banning eep, I understanf the F word very well and I know how it
can be used to hurt people, there was no misunderstanding there that made eep
use the profanity he used to abuse and insult people with. He deserved the
threat made by Facter to ban him.
But for the rest I do agree that misunderstandings can be the cause of many
problems. It can also be the cause for many things to be brought to the surface
as well. Being silent about things wether they are misunderstandings or not are
also not healthy for any community. Putting your cards on the table and saying
"Hey what's up with this or what is this problem?" can solve alot more if you
are willing to have a descent debate without all the mud slinging and flame
throwing.

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Aug 11, 2001, 2:25am

Well.. as far as you posting e-mails I thought that in general it was bad practice, broke a couple frendships of mine (posting
tgrams in chat) and tuly violates the trust of who the e-mail is from. I rationalized it by saying it was for the community, but I
knew that it was not, I am glad you have swallowed your pride and are willing to admit your flaws and fallacies, and appreciate your
ability to step forward and set an example for others.

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Aug 11, 2001, 2:45am

One question... Just what do you expect from a group of people such as the AW community and these newsgroups? Seriously, you put
genius alongside stupidity. Have beside have not. Citizen beside tourist. Skill beside no skill. Programmer beside end-user. Art
beside cybersex. Misunderstanding is bound to this community whether we like it or not, and it's not going to stop any time soon.


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Aug 11, 2001, 10:51am

When you have a group of more than one person, and especially when all
communication in this group relies on plain text, no voice, no facial
expressions, no electromagnetic synchronization to read what the other
person is thinking, misunderstandings are going to exist, and in our
case very much so. The best thing we can try to do is live with it...

-John, almost loving Netscape 6.1........

[View Quote] > One question... Just what do you expect from a group of people such as the AW community and these newsgroups? Seriously, you put
> genius alongside stupidity. Have beside have not. Citizen beside tourist. Skill beside no skill. Programmer beside end-user. Art
> beside cybersex. Misunderstanding is bound to this community whether we like it or not, and it's not going to stop any time soon.
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