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Aug 5, 2003, 5:04pm

"tony m" <tony at homeunix.uni.cc> wrote in news:3f26de9e$1
at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Yes; it does. I've got a few WMVs among my collection.

Some are a bit shaky though. Switching between slow-mo and fast-forward
playback, etc. Might be a codec thing. Doesn't happen in WMP 6 (probably
the best WMP version to now).

KAH

Aug 7, 2003, 9:36am

"rossyboy" <rossyboy at swcity.net> wrote in
news:Xns93CFCAED3F5C4Ro1124 at 64.94.241.201:

> Maybe WMVs have changed since the plugin was made (it's for Winamp,
> not Winamp3... yes, they're actually two different programs O_O)

I use the Winamp3 native WMV support. I believe it just calls WMP
components.

KAH

Aug 9, 2003, 10:05am

"john" <john at 3d-reality.com> wrote in
news:3f33b0bc at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Lol... I only sent those two telegrams for M a t t because he asked me
> too

Very, VERY clever of you...

It's natural for AWI to assume that you used a hack when you flew around in
AWRPG after having proven that you have contact with a known cracker. And I
doubt AWI appreciate you sending telegrams for M a t t.

A ban is perhaps a bit harsh, although I can guess who banned you, but you
have acted like a fool.

KAH

Aug 10, 2003, 10:12am

"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
news:3f355804 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> It is a illegal offence, to directly impersonate an entity or
> organisation with the intent to gain private or personal information
> using the authority, or good will towards that person. Online, this
> includes the use of special privileges to gain access to a user
> account, and use that account directly, as oppsed to editing its
> information.
>
> If prooved that this has been occuring, AWI could, possibly, face
> legal action by John, as they have, suposedly, been using his account
> to directly impersonate him... Of course usually this would just get
> throw away by a court... unless the account happens to hold Credit
> Card and Password Data... cue registration...

Technically, that account isn't his anymore, since AWI revoked it. Dang, no
lawsuit :-P

Actually *proving* it could only be done by AWI themselfes. Lying under
oath (sp?) seems fairly common in the US now...

KAH

Aug 11, 2003, 6:06am

"swe" <swe at swe-e.com> wrote in news:3f36baa3 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> ya, if they revoke, they would have to give him a refund no?

EULA says they can terminate your license for whatever reason (they aren't
under obligation to tell you why either), whenever they want to. That means
your cit as well (if you can't legally use the software, what are you going
to do with a cit?).

KAH

Aug 11, 2003, 6:08am

"goober king" <awnews at awnews.org> wrote in
news:3f36ce36$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Somehow, I think KAH was attempting to be sarcastic. In fact, pretty
> much everything having to do with The Lady has had nothing to do with
> actual facts, it would seem. :P

Yeah, heh.

KAH

Aug 11, 2003, 6:12am

"swe" <swe at swe-e.com> wrote in news:3f36d3a4 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> well, ok, say you buy an xbox from dixions. they cant take your money
> and suddenly decide only to give you it without the joystick, and not
> give you a refund for what you are owned because you beat up the
> mcdonalds cook's son. its the same with activeworlds, you pay them,
> and they dont give you everything you bought, but instead, only a
> portion of it!

You don't agree to a EULA when buying your XBox. A EULA is a contract, and
this one (as most others) state that the company can terminate your right
to use the software and your services at their discretion (any time, any
reason). You agreed to this term when installing AW, there's no going back
unless you cancel your citizenship and destroy all copies of AW.

KAH

Aug 12, 2003, 9:17am

"john" <john at 3d-reality.com> wrote in
news:3f377836 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Why has everybody taken this that I want a refund?
>
> If you read carefully you will notice that i'm saying AW ARE
> IMPERSONATING ME and that IMPERSONATING ME is against INTERNATIONAL &
> US COMPANY LAW according to Strike Rapier.

You can't be certain it's still your citizenship. If it's not, then they
aren't doing anything illegal. Anyway, I'm not certain if logging on to
user accounts like this is illegal. Talk to a lawyer if you're really that
interested. Sorry Strike, but I think we should leave this up to the pros.

KAH

Aug 12, 2003, 9:23am

"john" <john at 3d-reality.com> wrote in
news:3f3778e0 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> SWE, you may just have something there, nowhere does the EULA say that
> they may terminate without refund of the time left!
>
> Maybe I should demand one?

I don't think you've got the right to one either.

KAH

Aug 13, 2003, 8:40am

"swe" <swe at swe-e.com> wrote in news:3f399f36 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> ok, say you rent a tv (im pretty sure u sign a contract for that),
> they cant take it back 2 months into the renting without a refund. you
> agree to pay a certain amount, for a certain service. if you dont get
> it (the 1 yr) then they didnt fill in thier part of the deal, and you
> deserve a full refund, since the contract was terminated by them.

AW is different. I doubt the rental contract can be terminated at any time
by the rental company.

KAH

Aug 10, 2003, 10:14am

"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
news:3f363255 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> And as you can see from the sig that was meant to be a private email
> o.0

<environment type="foggy dark evil">

<sfx type="echo">MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA</sfx>

Now I know where to send my troops to capture Strike!

</environment>

KAH

Aug 12, 2003, 9:32am

"goober king" <awnews at awnews.org> wrote in news:3f38c91c$2
at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Has the entire NG community suddenly gone mad? Weebo's cracked and
> raving like a lunatic, Crazy Pills thinks everyone's out to get him,
> Hamster's ranting in his own little world, as usual, and everyone else
> seems to be more interested in stoking the fires than putting them out.

I think Crazy Pills gave Weebo some "candy".

KAH

Aug 13, 2003, 8:48am

"nutinmuch" <Nutinmuch at comcast.net> wrote in
news:3f399e28$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Or a Cruisemissle :P

Or my LDJHF-76 StrikingPulse sattelite-mounted pulse weapon. Oops, did I
say that? :-D

KAH

Aug 19, 2003, 9:30am

"joeman" <john at fakeplastic.com> wrote in
news:3f416c9a$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Uh... Not everyone installs programs on C. 99% of computers have two
> IDE connectors with two channels apiece... So, you could have up to
> three dives besides C. Or you could be like me and have 19 network
> drives. :\

All Win32/16 boxes I've seen have a C drive. It's possible to change the
drive letter, but why would you do that?

KAH

Aug 21, 2003, 9:28am

"alcior" <alcior at virtuelfrance.com> wrote in
news:3f43f32b at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Who? Says to me I know you not. I vien to verify the world.log no
> ejection! On the other hand my small he have laws against the
> defamation and the slander there. Alcior France!
>
> Qui? dit-moi je te connais pas. Je viens de vérifier le world.log
> aucune éjection! Par contre mon petit il y as des lois contre la
> diffamation et la calomnie. alcior france!

Calmez vous, il n'y aucune diffamation dans ce cas. Juste une personne qui
réagit un peut bizarrement. Peut-être que ces personnes ont pris des
problémes de connectivité pour une éjection, on ne sait jamais.

KAH

Aug 23, 2003, 12:55pm

"neophile" <neophile at gala-3d.net> wrote in
news:XnF93E08BF9213EFneophilegala3dnet at 64.94.241.201:

> Now, I'm answering you alcior:
> ok,I see for your private mode is new, but why, when we have trying
> enter your world, The following message was appearing:"You have been
> ejected from france!"?, If your world is in private mode we should
> have this message:"Sorry, you are not allowed to enter "france!".So
> your world was not a private world before this week,when this strange
> eject happen? And I'm not your "little", and I don't know you, so
> please trying stay correct in your language terms in future. I'm not
> your enemy.
>
> Note:I remember you, that the use of software on the internet can
> permiss you have some private information from anyone with the help of
> your AW caretaker world statues, is prohibing, that call hacking.And
> on your web page I have see an tracking cookies, very strange.Bye.

I'm having some problems figuring out exactly what you're saying. It would
help if you also posted in French.

Finding out your ISP is not hacking at all, perfectly legal. You just do an
ARIN WHOIS on the IP (anyone with eject can see your IP). Cookies, wether
to track your or not are also perfectly legal, and can be disabled in your
browser settings.

I guess he meant that he wanted his world to be private, not that he
restricted enter (strangely enough).

KAH

Aug 30, 2003, 9:52am

"john" <john at 3d-reality.com> wrote in
news:3f50774e at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> He is right

Lol, you just scrambled the letters. Not hard to guess it anyway, since you
seem to adore Spiral Matrix.

KAH

Sep 7, 2003, 9:38am

"starfleet" <Starfleet at Command.com> wrote in
news:3f5af42f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> I'm not talking about an RWX circle, I meant a real circle.

A real (abstract) circle has an infinity of points/vertices.

KAH

Sep 12, 2003, 12:06pm

"mrbruce" <a1ctworld at aol.com> wrote in
news:3f6152e9 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Be advised your OP passwords are at risk, details are sketchy....
> unclear, but I am warning you all your OP passwords have been
> sacrified. I would rather not reveal my sources of information or
> point fingers till more evidence is reviewed or reveal what I know
> about how it was done, but heed my warning change your OP passwords
> ASAP. If you all think this is posted as a hoax guess again, most you
> probably already know A!!CT's OP password because it has been spread
> thru-out AWTeen and our password had the maxium charicters allowed so
> if our OP Password was cracked so was most in AW.

Old news, nothing to get excited over. Lenght won't matter the least
either. They most likely got your OP PW by decrypting the AW protocol, and
of course the OP PW has to be sent to the browser when it enters a world.
There's nothing that can be done about it, so just don't worry about it. If
you see someone stealing your objects / leeching your OP, tell them to
stop. If they don't, contact AWI abuse.

KAH

Sep 13, 2003, 8:32am

"mrbruce" <a1ctworld at aol.com> wrote in
news:3f62b299 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> John care to exsplain to the AW community how you knew the OP password
> to the path used as our commercial Object Path called starfleet? And
> why you were logged shortly after coming into A!!CT and this
> prevails>>>

> I think we all know what that laughter was all about John.
> Also it seems a little funny that wittnesses have chat logs with names
> showing our op password "janeway-75-theta-6-voyager" being passed
> around in AWTeen as well as several other passwords. So you can all
> scrap that password now its been changed. Be be warned staling a
> password to a commercial Opject path is just like stealing Pay TV
> service, you get caught and we have the right to prosecute.
> But plain and simply folks, there are thiefs in AW and you need to
> protect your investments.

He could prosecute you for false allegations and slander, so be carefull
about what you say. That someone entered your world and started laughing is
not a very good indication that that person stole your password. It sort of
strikes me as the kind of thing John would do if he's bored :-D

Yes, there are people that think stealing OP PWs is fun in AW. But there is
not much that can be done about this (one thing that could be done is using
the Referer HTTP header to see where the request came from, although this
header can be defeated very easily) from the world owner's point of view.
The ball's in AWI's court, and it's been there for a long time; they have
the possibility to make things (at least quite a bit) more secure, but they
aren't taking it.

KAH

Sep 14, 2003, 9:02am

"joeman" <john at fakeplastic.com> wrote in
news:3f630865$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> I wouldn't be so sure about those allegations of "slander" there, KAH.
> I don't know about Finland, or Norway, or whichever far-away land you
> come from, but lying to cover up a crime is rather illegal.

"Lying to cover up a crime", what are you talking about? MrBruce posted
accusations against John, providing laughter in the chat as proof. To me
that sounds like a false allegation; slander. It's not my problem if
MrBruce has some more conclusive evidence if he doesn't post about it.

Would be nice if you learnt how to not make a fool of yourself, Joe.

KAH

Sep 18, 2003, 2:30pm

"calt" <rathish.balakrishnan at insead.edu> wrote in
news:3f69ccc1$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Question : does the web-browser window in ActiveWorlds Browser support
> Cookies?

It's just the ActiveX version of IE.

> Now, the problem is.. every time there's a window popup, the user is
> asked to enter is login credentials. While, in the same simulation
> developed using a 2D flash interface, it was a single sign on system
> given that domino takes care of the session management.
>
> Questions
>
> 1. Doesn't the web-browser (which I realised is an active-x component)
> in AW inherit my IE settings?

It does inherit your IE settings. (Well, it IS IE)


> 2. Is there anyway of implementing sessions in this scenario? I
> realise if it's a single window system, it might work. But in my case,
> where you have multiple windows, is there any way to maintain cookie
> information in the client end?

Yes, there is. Horribly simple actually. You just need to make sure, that
you get your session information transferred with each request (using
cookies, or GET/POST parameters).

KAH

Sep 20, 2003, 10:43am

"ferruccio" <startrek3 at earthlink.net> wrote in news:3f6bf9ca$2
at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> that's why I don't use OE X_X

This one is cleverly disguised and doesn't rely on OE (although it tries
using the Outlook MIME-type exploit).

Since yesterday I estimate my mailserver has received about 1000 mails
created by this virus. Before I set up server-side filters that
automatically delete these mails upon receival I couldn't even fetch mail
because I received it about twice a minute, changing my inbox all the time.
Stats from Trend Micro shows the infection rate has plummeted, though,
which is consistent with my mailserver logs (not getting it as often now).

This nasty bugger doesn't just scan mail, news and browser caches, it also
scans a number of USENET servers (probably the reason I've been bombarded
with it).

KAH

Sep 25, 2003, 2:51pm

"citizen cane" <CitizenCane at nowhere.invalid> wrote in
news:4in3nvc12frlqeid0g8u6j4nhdves4720t at 4ax.com:

> MSN will be closing its chat room service on October 14th in 28
> countries (MSN is retaining unsupervised chat room services in the US,
> Canada and Japan, but for subscribers only). That will mean one
> hellavalot of people will be looking for new places to hang out in
> cyber-space.
>
> If AW Inc. can squeeze some advertising budget out of its coffers...
> now might be a good time :)
>
> As MSN are claiming that the major reason for this is that
> un-moderated chat cannot be made completely safe for children it will
> probably be best not to mention the gor thing ;)
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/32992.html

From that article:

"John Carr of the National Children's Homes (NCH) hailed the decision.

In a statement he said: "Here we have the world’s leading Internet service
acknowledging that open free un-moderated chat cannot be made completely
safe for consumers and children."

That just cracked me up :-)) Especially the "world's leading Internet
service" part. Are these charities too stupid to realise they're doing it
purely for financial reasons?

KAH

Sep 27, 2003, 8:13pm

".duo.28daysleft" <ncommons at comcast.net> wrote in
news:3f74d393$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Your missing my point. A computer is of no use to me if I can't do
> what I want with it.

So what you're saying is, you want to use your computer as a security
threat?

>If it means risking the entire internet, so be
> it.

That's rather selfish... You really need to grow up Duo.

> Its not my program that has security flaws, and I'm not the one
> who makes the games I play.

No, but why use inferior quality programs? If a car was dangereous to
drive, would you buy it just because it looked sort of cool, everyone had
it and there were lots of accesories available for it? I hope not.

> If Microsoft had a larger development team
> we would be better off. There would be FAR less bugs.

No, they already have *immense* development teams. That's not the
problem. With larger teams, they'd just implement more "features",
meaning more bugs.

> If everyone used
> Linux and there weren't hardware issues, we'd be better off.

That's true (although there are very few hardware issues now).

> Tidbits? How about my hardware working, that's a pretty big part of
> what I like about XP. Not only does all your hardware work (unlike in
> Linux or Mac OS) but the plug-and-play support is SUPERB. You almost
> literally do not need software for anything, and most everything you
> can simply plug in and it will work. Windows does have terrible menory
> handling and such though.

I don't know about Mac OS, but in Linux most hardware works pretty well
now. A lot of hardware manufacturers release official Linux drivers, and
there's tons of drivers out there anyway. The hardware incompatibility
thing is a myth nowadays.

So, you're too lazy to install drivers manually, so that justifies using
buggy, insecure software? Okay, very good logic. It's not like you don't
need software, it's just that MS decided to waste your diskspace
preinstalling drivers for all sorts of hardware you don't have, to make
it look like you don't need any.

Yes, Windows has crappy memory handling. Considering memory is one of the
things that are really essential to a system, and also pretty expensive,
I'd rather have to spend a whole five minutes longer on installing
drivers for my new hardware.

> What you quoted was true. I really just don't see your logic. I bought
> a computer to enjoy myself, not be "responsible." Why would I ever buy
> a computer just to have it sit there, unable to do what I want?

You can still enjoy yourself while being responsible. Even if you don't
WANT to be responsible, the minute you plug that network jack in, you ARE
responsible for your actions on the network, wether you like it or not.
That includes your choice of software.

Having it sit there, unable to do what you want with it is stupid, but
since you obviously want to use it to be irresponsible, I'd rather you
did leave it off and disconnected. You've never struck me as a very
responsible person anyway. I don't expect you to understand any of this,
you're just too egocentrical.

> Computers, though far cheaper than before, ARE NOT CHEAP. Seriously, I
> just don't get why you think what you think. In fact, I WOULD rather
> be able to enjoy myself on my computer while it slows down the entire
> internet, rather then not enjoying myself on my computer while it
> doesn't slow down the internet.

Again, you display horrible egoism. Where is your sense of community, of
duty to your peers? You should seriously rethink your life philosophy.

KAH

Sep 30, 2003, 4:29pm

".duo.28daysleft" <ncommons at comcast.net> wrote in
news:3f763464$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> You also miss my point. WHAT IS THE POINT OF BUYING A COMPUTER IF YOU
> DON'T ENJOY IT? Seriously, I didn't buy a computer so I would never
> use it for what I enjoy.

Your ignorance is your problem. You think Linux is some sort of strange,
scary weird thing that only freaks know how to use. That is *not* the case!
You can play games, chat with your friends over IM networks, browse the
web, do whatever you want in Linux as well.

> Not selfish at all. Its how the world woks, get used to it. Consumers
> buy products to improve the quality of life. Hear that? That means
> they buy things to make their lives easier, more enjoyable, etc.

The problem is that this product *seems* to improve their quality of life,
but in reality, the problems with it *deteriorate* their life quality!

> Umm... maybe because Linux isn't compatible with a majority of games.
> Not to mention the majority of high-end sound and video cards.
> Seriously, if Linux didn't have hardware issues and all the games for
> Windows were also on Linux, I'd switch. As of now though, switching to
> Linux would eliminate 90% of what I use my computer for.

You really are clueless about Linux, aren't you? It doesn't have any
compatibility problems with most new hardware, and even if you can't find
any official driver doesn't mean an unofficial won't do, generic drivers
aren't all too bad either. The important thing is OpenGL support really (a
gfx card without can not be called "high end"). A lot of the game engines
most new games are built on are available on Linux, including the Quake and
Unreal engines , though not all developpers prioritize porting their games
to Linux. For those cases, WineX is your friend.

> They have a development team of 100s. Linux had a development team of
> 1000s. That's why it isn't buggy. BTW, Linux is having some copyright
> issues...

Actually, to begin with Linux had a dev team of one. Today, it has hundreds
(I think hundreds would be closer to the truth than thousands) of
contributors, but that can't be the sole reason it's better; the MS
programmers are after all payed for their work, the Linux contributors are
not.

Yes, SCO is having fun sueing some people, but I doubt they'll get very
far.

> Enough to stop me. If I can't upgrade my PC to have a Radeon 9700 Pro
> (which I plan to do) I'm not switching to Linux for sure.

Have you actually checked if there are any known problems with the Radeon
9700 Pro? I doubt it.

> Actually, Mac OS has less hardware issues than Linux. Any hardware
> issues, unless very, VERY limited are unacceptable.

There is some hardware designed more or less specifically for Windows (for
example "WinModems") that Linux will have a hard time with, or is
completely incompatible with. But the majority of hardware will work fine,
without having to scratch your head very much either (the big distros now
all have nice user friendly tools that will assist you with the
installation). Unless you have some very exotic hardware, I expect your
current system would be Linux-compatible.

> Actually, for many devices, you CAN'T get Linux drivers. Plain and
> simple. Actually, the way XP is constructed, VERY, VERY few devices
> need drivers. That includes devices that came around AFTER XP's
> release.

Do you mean official drivers, or just any old driver? I'm aware that a
number of manufacturers are bad at writing Linux drivers, but nothing stops
users of that hardware to write their own drivers and releasing it to other
users. Then you can always use generic drivers (which you praise in XP), it
doesn't really matter that much.

> You mean, never install some of my new hardware? You realize that
> there are a grossly large devices without linux drivers, right? Linux
> doesn't even have basic drivers for things. Windows does not have
> severe enough memory problems for it to be really significant.

Your new hardware is what's most likely to work well, and hardware from the
last few years. If you have old hardware (I mean old), you might struggle a
bit.

> I put up a firewall. That's my being responsible. I don't need to stop
> enjoying my computer by buying Linux and not being able to play any
> games. Seriously, why would I choose software which doesn't do what I
> want? Why would I buy Microsoft Word if I wanted to edit images?

A firewall isn't always enough, but I guess it's a start. Already, you
won't have to buy Linux, you can just download the distro you think will
correspond the most to your needs/skills (you could always buy a CD kit, or
if you're on 56k). Second, you won't have to stop enjoying your computer,
you'll just be enjoying it more securely.

After clearing up your bad knownledge of Linux, I really don't see what
functionality you want from Windows that Linux doesn't have. Why would you
buy Microsoft Windows if you didn't want to expose yourself to security
problems?

> Responsible? I'm not the one making the viruses trying to ruin
> everybody's enjoyment of their computer. I'm not going to climb into a
> little shell and be insecure. I'm just not an insecure person.

I never said you were insecure in the sense you seem to mean. I meant your
system was insecure, in other words exposed to attacks by malicious third
parties.

> Egocentrical? I believe not. I have something which is called
> self-esteem. And maybe your just wrong, and don't realize it. Next
> time have a basis for your argument. I ace standardized tests, and am
> bored while taking them. I know what I'm saying, and I know what your
> saying. I just don't agree with what your saying. Though logically the
> well-being of the internet is first priority, technically, since I am
> teh consumer, what I want is the priority. I don't want the entire
> internet to go to hell for sure just so I can play games, but I still
> want to play games. So I can make a compromise, I like to call it a
> firewall. It isn't perfect, but its better than nothing.

I don't see what standarized tests have got to do with this, but nice for
you. I have a basis for my argument, you just don't know very much about it
and won't accept having someone rectify you. That's a bit too much self-
esteem.

You're MS's customer, not the Internet's or general community's customer.
You can demand them to improve their products, but they'll just respond by
obfuscating even more. You can play games on a safe platform such as Linux,
and then you'll really be contributing to keeping the Internet secure.

A firewall is a good step, I guess I may've misjudged you a bit, but you
could still move away from Windows completely at no loss.

> How is it egoism? If I want to ride my bike in the woods I'm going to
> buy a mountain bike, not a racing bike.

Riding bikes in the woods destroys the ground, bad example.

> Sense of community? I don't
> run the internet, I don't make Windows, I don't choose what platforms
> the games are, I don't choose what I like to do, HOW is the security
> of the internet my responsibility?

If you don't choose what you like to do, then who does, or was it just a
typo lol?

I'm not saying you're responsible for getting the problems there in the
first place, that's mostly MS's fault, *but* you can do something to fight
these problems. You are responsible for that.

> Why should I spend money on
> something I don't want? My life philosophy is to do research, which
> quite possible could benefit the world. I see the hole in my
> arguement, but there is no way to fix that gap. That's Microsoft's
> job, not mine. I have a sense of community, but honestly, THINK, who
> is falling victim if my computer is trashed by a scheme? ME. I'm not
> stupid either. If I get a virus or something, I unplug my computer
> from my network. Plain and simple. Its that easy. Its called making a
> compromise.

You won't have to spend any money on Linux, it's free. That's one of the
really nice things about it (not to mention the source-code itself is free
and that you can do whatever you want with it, more or less), besides that
it's got less bugs. Sure, you fall victim if you suffer damage from an
attack of whatever kind, but it's partially your fault. The problem is that
between the time you get the virus, to you realise that and have unplug it,
it might already have spread.

KAH

Oct 1, 2003, 2:41pm

".duo.24daysleft" <ncommons at comcast.net> wrote in
news:3f7a19cd at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Which versions are free? Links please. I want it, lol.

More or less all of them are free. Many of the distros maintained by
companies also come as CD kits and various bundles that do cost money
though, but if you look around on the sites you should find download links.

KAH

Oct 3, 2003, 12:34pm

"crazy pills" <chris101d at comcast.net> wrote in
news:3f7cd4cf$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

><<snipped spam>>

We don't care about Spiral Matrix, please post your advertising somewhere
else. Thanks.

KAH

Oct 4, 2003, 11:42am

"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in
news:3f7dcd34$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> I belive this place ( community) is the right place to inform of what
> is happening in ones universe/galaxy. When one buy an universe it says
> that NG support is included. I doubt AWI has a separate news server
> for each universe?

support != advertising

This is advertising/SPAM. This is the *AW* community NG, and is the right
place to inform about what is happening in AW, not in some other universe.

> Of course uf anyone post in the wrong category, it is normal to get
> flamed, but people from Spiral Matrix should not be bashed because
> they are from SM, but simple because of off-topic post. One could
> compare it to if a negro walks towards red light; one cannot yell at
> him because he is black, but simply because he is doing a wrong thing.

Nobody is being bashed for being from SM. I couldn't care less what
universes they use, they're being off-topic, and actually advertising a
commercial product.

> I have also been informed that when you buy a galaxy/universe, it do
> not include a citizenship in AW. Demand one! Since NG support is
> included; how the heck do one post here without a citizenship?

I'm sure that people that can afford universes or galaxies, costing
thousands of dollars, also can afford to buy a cit...

In any case, the owner of Spiral Matrix posted in the NGs saying he did not
wish anyone to post about SM.

KAH

Oct 5, 2003, 9:06am

"imagine" <imagines at joimail.com> wrote in
news:3f7ee6cc at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> The text in the original post in this thread was not meant as spam.
> The text was given to Crazy Pills by me to post here. It was meant to
> be a polite invitation to vitit me in my world in Spiral Matrix and
> have a bit of fun doing a Halloween pumpkin hunt on Halloween, nothing
> more. I purposly did not include any comments about buying cits or
> worlds. I did invite people to take a look around. It's kind of like
> inviteing some one to your home for a party and inviteing them to
> check out your house.
>
> I have been a part of AW for years and I have a cit both here and in
> SM. I have friends in AW who don't mind going between universes to
> visit. This invitation is for them and anyone else who dosn't mind
> going between universes. Any one who dosn't like it dosn't have to
> come, but you are also welcome.
>
> I really think that the poeple who are haveing a problem with them is
> over reacting to a simple invitation to a halloween event.

I don't mind going between universes, but I do mind people I don't know
telling me to go to another universe, completely unsolicited. In my book
that's advertising, and as it's unsolicited, SPAM.

You don't try to sell any product, but you still ask people to use a
product different from the one these newsgroups are about.

Why don't you invite your friends by telegram or mail, and post about the
event on SM-related forums? It would be much nicer of you.

KAH

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