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Jan 9, 2002, 5:09am
> Love the new obs! All the new furniture and stuff is great. Finally a
new
> toilet that I can actually fit my big Butch butt on. :-P
>
> The roads disappointed me though! They are way to big and can't replace
my
> old roads which I want to do. :-\
Alot of the new ob's are not in correct scale yet from what I can see...
F.
Jan 10, 2002, 12:01am
> I can't even log into my citizenship, I had a friend enter and check out
my
> builds and they are now owned by loki1
> What the heck is up with that!
> my citizen number IS 314063
> the password retrieval dont work because my email was removed from it
also.
You ran someones bot/program and it took your passwords.
F.
Jan 16, 2002, 8:30pm
> Bans are usually for a week the first time, a couple of weeks the
> second time, and permanent thereafter :)
That was how it was when I was there, but I wouldnt think its like that now.
I dont know what their policy is now.
F.
Jan 17, 2002, 6:26am
> Now that Tom is incharge of who gets the heave ho things are quite a bit
> more tidy, or authoritarian depending on your views. But Tom is a good
guy
> and he only boots people when they truly deserve it.
Yeah, Toms fukn cool :)
F.
Jan 17, 2002, 6:40am
>
> Essentially, I don't think Rick and JP are making blind decisions on this.
Of course they arnt. If anything, regardless of personal opinion from
others, both men are very intelligent. They are not "Uninformed", they are
not "in the dark" as to the citizens opinions, they know what they are, they
know how upset people are, they know what you think - come on, the guys have
run this company for years now, they're not stupid, in fact, they are quite
damn smart to of gotten such a strangely "un-pidgeonholeable" product to
survive all these years, its quite phenominal.
Do you guys think that they are not involved in the community? You do
realise that in one way or another, they *are* logged into the universe
every day, right (Sorry if I'm giving that away guys! ;) )? Hell, I dont
agree with alot of the decisions they make, n or have I ever, but, in my
time there I came to *respect* the decisions they make, both Rick and JP.
I'll only say it one more time. In regards to newgroup bannings? Its not an
easy thing to do for anyone, but if they did it, they did it for a real
reason, not just on a whim - I know Tom etc well enough to know they they
have *honest* morals in regards to this stuff. In regards to price
increases, and all that stuff? ?I wont say that I agree with it, in fact, I
am quite opposed to such drastic moves - BUT, if they did it for a reason,
they did it for a reason - have a little faith that they actually know more
about AW, than you do.
You guys forget something. There are people, that know more about AW, than
any of you. such people include Roland of course..but it also includes
people like me...bill, tom, stacey..and yes, Rick and JP know more about it
than any of us.
Give it time. Wait and see. You never know, the surprise's that the future
has in waiting may erase your temporary angst - guess you'll all have to try
that thing called "patience" huh ? ;)
Anyways, I'm off to London in a week or three, I wont be posting much in the
next 6 months or so - take care all :)
Facter.
Jan 29, 2002, 5:54am
[View Quote]"foxmccloud" <FoxMcCloud at cyberbrain.com> wrote in message
news:3c564223 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Just a question. Is there any way, via a cracked browser or something, to
see whispers not directed at you, or are they sent
> directly to the recipient? Do they have to travel through a server?
>
> I'm not asking to actually do it, of course :) Someone claimed he could do
that, and I seriously doubt it. Anyone knows?
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There is absolutly no way that this can be done - not even with a cracked
browser.
F.
Feb 5, 2002, 8:24am
> "aw is not up"
>
> i love how those gks and their little assistants state the obvious
>
> well, no one around seems to know *why*
> but more importantly i'd think is...
> when will it be back up?
Its routine maintenance, it was even announced, they are probably just
changing Alphaworld over to the 3.3 server..sometimes the databases are
different and they have to reload it etc etc.
F.
Sep 18, 2002, 8:05pm
Dear Mike,
Yes, this is a letter in regards to your companies acquisition of the domain
awnews.com. It has come to my attention that you snapped up the domain
whilst it was free - the people who previously (an in my eyes really should
still) owned it had merely allowed it to lapse because that was the best way
to transfer the domain from where it was held. I am sure you know the story.
I have decided to email you in response to the situation, to plead the case
for allowing the sale of the somain at its lowest cost, and not the (in many
peoples eyes) riduculous sum that you initially wished for it.
AWNEWS.com has had various incarnations over the years, but it is one, and
only one thing - a website for a small proportion of the community of the
activeworlds software. The people who pour their love into the site are
mostly young, dedicated members of that community, and as such have such
extremely limited funds that to obtain the domain from you for that cost is
physically impossible. The site is a non-profit site, that allows users to
hear about news on that community, and also allows young, budding
journalists (many of them in still in school) to have their love for the
activeworlds community.
You will not find another buyer for that domain name - I also find it hard
to understand what you would want with it - but I do implore you to allow
the domain to be purchased at the original cost.
They made a mistake in letting it lapse, yes, but you have to understand
that these guys allowed it to do so with good intentions of merely
transfering it, and did not fully understand the intricacies involved in the
transfer of domain names. That they would choose to let it lapse rather than
transfer it due to the difficulties involved is testament to that fact. They
had absolutly no idea that anyone, at all, would snap it up - who woudl want
the domain name for a tiny little community of young people whose only wish
was to have a site to share their love of the software? It was an honest
mistkae, pure and simple, and I would hate to think that someone would take
advantage of such honest intentions, no matter who it was.
So give them a break, or at least negotiate with them - they are a great
bunch of people, and it is a great site, which many people love and dearly
miss.
Sincerly,
Fletcher Andersen
Web Co-ordinator, Haringey Borough Council
(Former Activeworlds Technical Support)
[View Quote]"alphabit phalpha" <alphabit at swbell.net> wrote in message
news:3d88935b$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Ok Community,
>
> I just wrote a email to the owners of the Domain name registrar that
is
> requiring that rediculous fee for us to have our AWNews.com domain name
> back:)
> I pleaded with them that it was a community news place and no other
> persons would be interested in purchasing it in the future.
> The personal email I got was mike at mostwanteddomains.biz .
> Hey everyone, I think we can make a difference if we email them in
> numbers.
> If you can please email the above and nicely request they ask the
normal
> domain name reg fees, I really really think they might listen.
> After you have emailed them, maybe come back here and post what you
> sent. Let's see how big our voice in AW really is:) Plus I can use copies
of
> your emails to them for other future purposes if needed:)
> Also, maybe gram all your friends asking the same. Heck...email your
> family and friends outside AW and ask them to make that request also...LOL
> My next step if they don't come to some terms will be to contact IRL
> media:)
> btw....anyone know if there is any copywrite protection if a domain
name
> has been used for a certain length of time?
>
> Good luck Goobs:)
> Bit:)
>
>
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Sep 18, 2002, 8:07pm
I will add my support to any legal action that may need to be taken. I also
have several lawyer friends that ight be able to help look into it, and at
least send them a letter - I'll see what I can find out.
F.
[View Quote]"bowen" <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com> wrote in message
news:3d88a9cd$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> He's a domain squater, which are becomming illegal as if you registered
the domain
> first, you have a layover period of 1-2 years, due to some sort of law
they're
> passing to get rid of these squatters. All they do is sit and wait for
the old owner
> to come back and pay them 4x's as much as they paid.
>
> Basically, a get rich quick scheme (which are illegal, this is a form of
the pyramid
> scheme). We may actually have a case against these people, if we bring
this to the
> US courts, if we have a substantial amount of people coming forward to
support it.
>
> This wasn't spam, nor is it considerably close enough. I have a couple of
characters
> in my head who'd report that as spam.
>
> --Bowen--
>
>
>
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Sep 18, 2002, 8:11pm
I for one actually think it is important for everyone to know who it was, as
they will most certainly have to now be involved if any legal action is
taken in regards to getting the domain back, as that email in reply from the
head of the domain company specifically notes that someone has attempted to
make this claim into a farce, then any action taken from now will also have
to include that information.
Thats how the law works - whoever it was was truely silly in doing so,
because now they have involved themselves legally in any of this business
should it come to that kind of thing.
F.
[View Quote]"alphabit phalpha" <alphabit at swbell.net> wrote in message
news:3d88b05c at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well.....I would love to Bowen, but I really don't want to hurt the nark
> more than they have hurt themselves already:(
> If word got out who done it, I am sure they would get mass grammed with
> protests, I really don't want to subject them to that:)
>
> "bowen" <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com> wrote in message
> news:3d88af81$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Anyway to get that e-mail saved and sent to me so I can check the headers
> out? :)
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "alphabit phalpha" <alphabit at swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:3d88af0b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> this.
> forwarded
be
> a
misunderstanding
> to
> "FREE
> then
> look
or
> to
> but
> question.
> win
even
> in
this:)
not
>
>
>
>
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Sep 18, 2002, 8:13pm
I will kick in some money - just tell me where to send it.
F.
[View Quote]"kah" <kah at kahnews.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:Xns928DDA0606FDBkahatkahnewsdotcjbdo at 64.94.241.201...
> After a quick search of the USPTO TESS (trademarks), I found no trademarks
> on "awnews" or "aw news", which means we might be able to register awnews
> as a trademark, in which case they won't have much choice but to give it
to
> us. Thing is, this cost $325... So, if we can manage to do a bit of fund
> raising and get this ammount, we might be able to get it back :-))
>
> KAH
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Sep 18, 2002, 8:15pm
Goober - they are doing the wrong thing, and what they are doing is quite
possibly illegal.
I'd like to fight on this one,b ecause I've always loved the site, and rea
dit whenever there was something new on it. It is not unwinnable, and in
fact, I think there is a hugely strong case for getting it back.
EVeryone agrees...
F.
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3D88DF69.6090303 at utn.cjb.net...
> While I must confess that I'm surprised at all this outpouring of
> support for AWNews, I would rather not make a huge deal out of all this.
> In the grand scheme of things, it's just a bunch of letters and we can
> easily just change our name to AWNews.whatever.
>
> As for going after MWD.com, I have never owned the AWNews.com domain.
> It's always been owned by Cybor, so if anyone could take up legal action
> over all this, it would have to be him. And considering that his
> interest levels in AW right now are zero, I don't see that happening any
> time soon. And even if that Cyber Squatter law gets passed, I get the
> feeling that it won't be retro-active.
>
> So I've learned my lesson and will be more vigilant when it comes to
> domains. And while MWD's tactics may not be fair, I'll just have to hope
> that the lack of buyers will make them release the domain. In the
> meantime, we move on and get ourselves a new domain and a new name. I'm
> sure everyone here will be perfectly capable of updating any AWNews
> links they may have when the time comes. :)
>
> alphabit phalpha wrote:
is
normal
copies of
also...LOL
name
>
>
> --
> Goober King
> With no more CYs, Bit must be looking for something to do... ;P
> robrod at prism.net
>
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Sep 19, 2002, 4:29pm
No, but I like scaring people into understanding what childish idiots they
have been :)
eat that ass, bet i got you real worried! ha at !
oh, i missed this community...
F.
[View Quote]"alphabit phalpha" <alphabit at swbell.net> wrote in message
news:3d88fc93$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Do you really think they will come forward and admit their attempting to
> ruin something for the community?
> They haven't so far.
> However, once legal procedures start, the courts will demand that
> information, and if they don't they will have incriminated themselves for
> witholding evidence.
>
> "facter" <invurt at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3d88fa03 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I for one actually think it is important for everyone to know who it was,
as
> they will most certainly have to now be involved if any legal action is
> taken in regards to getting the domain back, as that email in reply from
the
> head of the domain company specifically notes that someone has attempted
to
> make this claim into a farce, then any action taken from now will also
have
> to include that information.
>
> Thats how the law works - whoever it was was truely silly in doing so,
> because now they have involved themselves legally in any of this business
> should it come to that kind of thing.
>
> F.
>
>
> "alphabit phalpha" <alphabit at swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:3d88b05c at server1.Activeworlds.com...
headers
to
> be
> misunderstanding
intended
SPAM
> or
is
sux,"
would
are
> even
> this:)
> not
>
>
>
>
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Sep 19, 2002, 4:30pm
They jacked the price after we emailed them?
Oh my god, how....*small*
Yes, I'll start making a few contact enquiries....
F.
[View Quote]"alphabit phalpha" <alphabit at swbell.net> wrote in message
news:3d88fb61$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Facter...Love your letter:)
>
> I would love to talk to your lawyers also regarding the threat that was
made
> to me and also the defamation of character.
> Currently the price for awnews.com shows as $10,000.00 on their web page.
As
> far as I know it was hiked after they received the emails from us.
> I have a email into a local news station right now that investigates
> consumer problems like this and if they don't bite on it I will be
> contacting every single one on the internet until I get one that does:)
>
> United We Stand
> Divided We Fall
>
> "facter" <invurt at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3d88f90b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I will add my support to any legal action that may need to be taken. I
also
> have several lawyer friends that ight be able to help look into it, and at
> least send them a letter - I'll see what I can find out.
>
> F.
>
> "bowen" <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com> wrote in message
> news:3d88a9cd$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> the domain
> they're
> the old owner
> the pyramid
> this to the
> support it.
of
> characters
>
>
>
>
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Sep 19, 2002, 4:32pm
By the way, amke sure you take a screenshot of that price hike *right now*,
then email it to yourself as well as others - good evidence that they are
playing foul for the courts.
F.
[View Quote]"alphabit phalpha" <alphabit at swbell.net> wrote in message
news:3d88fb61$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Facter...Love your letter:)
>
> I would love to talk to your lawyers also regarding the threat that was
made
> to me and also the defamation of character.
> Currently the price for awnews.com shows as $10,000.00 on their web page.
As
> far as I know it was hiked after they received the emails from us.
> I have a email into a local news station right now that investigates
> consumer problems like this and if they don't bite on it I will be
> contacting every single one on the internet until I get one that does:)
>
> United We Stand
> Divided We Fall
>
> "facter" <invurt at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3d88f90b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I will add my support to any legal action that may need to be taken. I
also
> have several lawyer friends that ight be able to help look into it, and at
> least send them a letter - I'll see what I can find out.
>
> F.
>
> "bowen" <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com> wrote in message
> news:3d88a9cd$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> the domain
> they're
> the old owner
> the pyramid
> this to the
> support it.
of
> characters
>
>
>
>
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Sep 19, 2002, 4:34pm
Can I ask you something?
Who the hell are *you* ?
F.
[View Quote]"dion" <Dion at digevo.net> wrote in message
news:3d88fa20$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> AWNews is too general to be considered against the law. They could simply
> argue that they happened to buy that domain and would get by no problem.
>
> Quit bitching about it, just move on and quit bugging them. It's only a
> freaking domain anyway! It's your own damn fault for not renewing it in
> time.
>
> "alphabit phalpha" <alphabit at swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:3d88935b$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> is
> normal
copies
> of
also...LOL
> name
>
>
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Sep 18, 2002, 7:54pm
Pricks!
Ive been waiting or the site to come back online , one of my fav's :)
F.
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3D88680F.8000000 at utn.cjb.net...
> I suppose now would be a good time to give everyone a heads up as to our
> situation with AWNews.com
>
> As some of you may know, we've been in the process of transferring all
> AWNews property from Cybor, the former owner, to myself. The website
> hosting has been secured, but the awnews.com domain name is another
> matter entirely.
>
> The story goes like this: It didn't seem as if there was any
> straightforward way to transfer the domain from one owner to another.
> So, Cybor decided to just let the domain run out and I would have to
> pick it up when it went on the public market. Unfortunately, I couldn't
> get a straight answer out of register.com, the domain's registrar, as to
> when the domain would go public. Still, since all the other "awnews"
> domains (awnews.net, awnews.org, etc) have been available for months, I
> figured no one would go for awnews.com, so I didn't watch it very
> closely. Boy, was that a mistake.
>
> On Sept. 8th, soon after the domain went public, some domain-grubbing
> outfit called MostWantedDomains.com snatched it up and posted it as
> being "up for sale". When I asked them how much they wanted for it, they
> told me $1,250. I essentially told them to stuff it, since I would've
> only had to pay $35 for it had I picked it up in time, and that they'll
> never find another buyer for that domain.
>
> Which brings us to now. Since I doubt MWD.com is going to be generous
> enough to simply drop the domain, we're in the process of trying to
> decide on a new domain name for AWNews. Possible suggestions include
> domains like aw-news.com and awnews.org. If any of you has a suggestion
> you think would be a) easy to remember, and b) has something to do with
> "AWNews", feel free to post it here and we'll consider it.
>
> Thanks for your help, and we're sorry for any disruption/inconvenience
> all of this may have caused you. :-/
>
> --
> Goober King
> AWNews.? Editor in Chief
> robrod at prism.net
>
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Sep 19, 2002, 4:38pm
I think there might be a few communities where I can ask questions about
this...
Hmm...I'm thinking - SLASHDOT question time!!
If its phrased right...
F.
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3D89FB3A.2080502 at utn.cjb.net...
> Well, if you guys are really willing to take this all the way, then here
are all the facts,
> to the best of my knowledge:
>
> As I had already stated, Cybor had decided to let the domain expire and I
was to pick it up
> when it went public. According to Cybor, the account expired on August 1,
2002. However,
> when I contacted register.com, the registrar of the awnews.com domain,
about the possibility
> of transferring the account to me, I was told that it can take upwards of
two months for a
> domain to go public after it has expired, so I was advised to have Cybor
renew the account
> and then transfer it to me. But since Cybor felt that the transfer process
was far too
> tedious, he decided to continue to let the account expire.
>
> Over the next few weeks, I occasionally visited register.com to check on
awnews.com status,
> and the WHOIS information continued to claim the domain was owned by
Cybor. Thinking that
> the domain wasn't very valuable outside of AW, given that all the other
awnews domains were
> still available, I didn't pay much attention.
>
> On Sept 11th, (talk about bad timing...) I received a telegram from fellow
AWNews staffer
> Padfoot, letting me know that the awnews.com domain was for sale.
Understandably excited, I
> went to register.com to register the domain, only to find out it was still
taken. Only this
> time, it wasn't Cybor's name on the WHOIS, but Worldwide Media, Inc.,
owner of
> MostWantedDomains.com. They had registered the domain through the
registrar IAregistry.com
>
> Needless to say, I was thoroughly pissed off. Going to "www.awnews.com"
brought up a web
> page proclaiming that the site was for sale. At the bottom was a tiny form
where you could
> make an offer for the domain, however the space next to "Asking Price" was
blank. So, I
> offered them $35, which is what I would've had to pay if I had registered
it with
> register.com. I also added the comment "You stole my domain and I want it
back!"
>
> The next day, I received an email from Michael H. Berkens, President of
Worldwide Media,
> Inc., essentially saying that they got my domain fair and square because I
hadn't renewed
> it. Conceding that he had a point, I replied by explaining my situation to
him and asking
> him what I would have to do in order to get the domain back. He responded
simply with
> "$1,250". Naturally, I scoffed at that price and replied with the
following:
>
> "Surely you jest. There's no way I'm going to pay that much money for a
collection of
> letters that I *could* have bought for $35 had you not snatched it up for
apparently no
> reason other than greed. I was even willing to go as high as $70 just so
you could make a
> profit, but if that's not enough for you, then you've just wasted $35 in
buying that domain,
> since I can almost guarantee you won't find another buyer for awnews.com;
certainly not one
> willing to pay over $1000 for it."
>
> I have yet to hear back from him, and that message was sent almost a week
ago (9/13). Soon
> after I sent that message, I noticed that the Asking Price for awnews.com
had finally been
> filled in, to the tune of $10,000. Figuring I'd never get it back from the
greedy bastard
> now, I resigned myself to looking for alternative domains for AWNews to
use, which brings us
> to now.
>
> After ABP started up the cause, I did a little research into Worldwide
Media, Inc. Turns out
> that Worldwide Media and Michael H. Berkens are actually one in the same
(much like InSaNiTy
> and Heartfall Productions). I also found out that WWM has gone to court
over this exact
> thing before, but won because the complainant couldn't prove that the
domain name was
> confusingly similar to their trademark.
>
> After examining register.com's Dispute Policy, I found a ray of hope for
our little crusade
> in the following paragraphs:
>
> "a. Applicable Disputes. You are required to submit to a mandatory
administrative proceeding
> in the event that a third party (a "complainant") asserts to the
applicable Provider, in
> compliance with the Rules of Procedure, that (i) your domain name is
identical or
> confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which the
complainant has rights; and
> (ii) you have no rights or legitimate interests in respect of the domain
name; and (iii)
> your domain name has been registered and is being used in bad faith. In
the administrative
> proceeding, the complainant must prove that each of these three elements
are present.
>
> b. Evidence of Registration and Use in Bad Faith. For the purposes of
Paragraph 4(a)(iii),
> the following circumstances, in particular but without limitation, if
found by the Panel to
> be present, shall be evidence of the registration and use of a domain name
in bad faith: (i)
> circumstances indicating that you have registered or you have acquired the
domain name
> primarily for the purpose of selling, renting, or otherwise transferring
the domain name
> registration to the complainant who is the owner of the trademark or
service mark or to a
> competitor of that complainant, for valuable consideration in excess of
your documented
> out-of-pocket costs directly related to the domain name; or (ii) you have
registered the
> domain name in order to prevent the owner of the trademark or service mark
from reflecting
> the mark in a corresponding domain name, provided that you have engaged in
a pattern of such
> conduct; or (iii) you have registered the domain name primarily for the
purpose of
> disrupting the business of a competitor; or (iv) by using the domain name,
you have
> intentionally attempted to attract, for commercial gain, Internet users to
your web site or
> other online location, by creating a likelihood of confusion with the
complainant's mark as
> to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement of your web site
or location or of a
> product or service on your web site or location."
>
> Translation: If we're going to have any success at this, we MUST prove
that all three of
> these actions have taken place:
>
> 1) The domain is identical to a trademark (TM or SM) that I have rights to
> 2) That WWM has no rights or legitimate interests in awnews.com
> 3) That WWM is using the awnews.com domain in bad faith, including but not
limited to
> purchasing the domain for the main purpose of selling the domain back to
the former owner at
> an inflated cost.
>
> So that's everything I know. I can tell you all right now that I have no
trademarks on
> AWNews whatsoever, so that may kill us right there. Perhaps you guys could
talk to your
> legal friends about all this, but I honestly don't see much good coming of
this. :-/
>
> Oh, and for those who might be thinking that I'm making all this up
*glares pointedly at the
> lurkers*, here are references to all the info I just mentioned:
>
> http://www.awnews.com/default.php?stat=yes - the domain name in question,
which displays the
> $10,000 Asking Price
> http://www.register.com/dispute-policy.cgi?1|3374924395| - register.com's
Dispute Policy
> (similar to IAregistry.com's Dispute Policy)
>
http://www.register.com/whois-results.cgi?dacb02ad2bb54a78f1c7b08942ed18afdd
3dc793383e4fe56498f89cd3f8a9d38403efb03eeeba61
> - WHOIS information for AWNews.com
> http://www.arb-forum.com/domains/decisions/99675.htm - RentRight, Inc. v.
Worldwide Media
> Inc. a/k/a Michael Berkens
>
> --
> Goober King
> Let the fun begin...
> robrod at prism.net
>
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Sep 22, 2002, 7:51am
:
>
> A service mark is a name, symbol, word, or combination of 2 or more of
> these that a person displays or otherwise uses to advertise or sell
> services that the person performs to identify those services that the
> person performs and to distinguish them from services that another
> person performs. Examples of service marks: Wendy's (restaurant
> services); Waxie Maxie (retail phonograph record store service); COMPUSA
> (retail and wholesale computer services).
>
> The only problem is that it sounds like you can only use the SM for
> commercial use, but again I'm not sure. The site I found doesn't say
> whether it's retroactive or not. We need to get a lawyer in here! :P
I'll be asking a friend sometime this week, we;re going to have noodles
sometime and i'll describe it to him then...he does corporate law, no
info..so if he doesnt know, then he'll probably have a look into it for me
with some other friends...
F.
Sep 22, 2002, 7:46am
.....every forum is different...you should of seen this place a few yaras
ago, man, do I remember some of THOSE glame wars....
....oh, people here are very tolerant, but as this community comprises people
that are both very old, and very new...you will find some of the older
people are a bit less patient with new people who really dont know what they
are talkigna bout in certain respects...
...but its all good, we are nice people - but flame wars are everywhere, and
they are to be found in extremely established communities and long running
forums moreso than others...
F.
[View Quote]"ambivalent" <kersting at blast.net> wrote in message
news:3d8d3d20$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> As a relative newbie to this forum, but a participant in quite a number of
> other forums, I'm wondering why it is so difficult in here for people to
> tolerate the opinions of others, even when they are expressed in polite
> terms. I can't say it's the first time I've seen this sort of thing, but
in
> my experience in other forums, where you have a large number of bright,
> talented people, as here in the AW community, there is usually more
> tolerance for differences.
>
> A number of people have told me they wouldn't dare to post their opinions
in
> here for fear of the flames. An inability to freely speak thwarts
> discussions from which the group could benefit.
>
> I post this in all sincerity (and sure hope I won't get flamed for
offering
> my observation, and asking about it).
>
> Could some of the 'old timers' offer me some insight on this? And is there
a
> certain way in which it's sort of expected that opinions be offered that
is
> tolerated better than other ways?
>
> Thanks -
> Kerstin
> (formerly ambivalent)
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Sep 22, 2002, 7:47am
[View Quote]"hal9000" <hal9k3 at attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3d8d80ad at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I have been here for 4-5 years, and Eep seemed to be the one that always
started them.
> Eep got people used to the idea, and probably trained a few...
> So i guess its just tradition now...
>
> Also the fact that AWI doesn't monitor them at all, or in that case even
look at them (excluding the beta ng).
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I used to :)
F.
Oct 24, 2002, 7:49pm
Please give him my regards....hope he gets well soon.
F.
[View Quote]"jynx o" <jynxter22 at attbilcom> wrote in message
news:3db436ec$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hi all...
> Just wanted to say thank you so much to the wonderful, warm and caring AW
> family that has surrounded me with hope and love and hugs through this
> terrible ordeal. I think all your thoughts and prayers that you sent to
> Clee worked. I just left the hospital and they had taken out his
breathing
> tube this morning and I was told that they now know that he will survive
> this. He is very sick still and very weak and has a long path to recovery
> but that should happen fully I'm told. I have no idea how much longer he
> will be in the hospital but hopefully the only way for him to go is up
now.
> There is a get well site for him that some of his very good friends have
> started. Coords are AW 23870.87N 2406.63E 0.09a 352 if anyone wants to
> leave anything.
> Thank you all again... this is one of the greatest of families in both
good
> times and in bad.
> Love and hugs,
> Jynx o
> :o)
>
> "alphabit phalpha" <alphabit at swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:3db36555$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
might
> yesterday
> down
> on
> know...
> most
or
pull
IL
> take
>
>
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Nov 13, 2002, 7:57pm
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3dd20b52 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> J B E L L - We are now using AWGate rules, AWDebate now strictly forbids
discussion, debates, ethnic or political comments, or other possibly
offensive comments.
>
> Calpantera - Unfortunatly the universe wide "Block Strike" (AW3.3 Intro
comment) has backfired due to a bug in the programming, I regret to inform
you E N Z O can no longer be seen or heard...
>
> The Game Master - THE GAME NOW HOSTS A NEW GAME!!! SEE HOW MANY ADVERTS
YOU CAN SPOT ON THE NEWSGROUP!!! THOSE WHO GET IT RIGHT WIN THE WORLD!!!
>
> Linn - Mark, I know you understand me...
>
> Daphne - E N Z O, mind wiping the newsgroup? :) :) :)
>
> Goober King - Waiter, can you please bring Cheff here please, I just want
to check I know what im after before I order it flame grilled.
>
> Lady Pippin - Unfortunatly AWTeen has stolen all our event plans in a
conspiracy to take over... sorry...
>
> NCC 71854 - Down with Star trek, all hail star wars!
>
> Alphabit Phalpha - Sometimes I worry that my friends are going to put me
on a hook and use me for fishing...
>
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Facter: Man I hate the taste of this beer.
Nov 13, 2002, 7:59pm
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3DD25172.8060903 at utn.cjb.net...
> heh Cute. That reminds me... I need to write another Newbie Guide! :D
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...but before that, your going get get awnews back online, right? right?
F.
Nov 13, 2002, 7:42pm
....was good, but try maybe spelling innocence correctly :)
F.
[View Quote]"usul 2" <usul2 at attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3dd2a483$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I think we have all lost our innocense. The following is not my creation,
> but I like it.
>
> Lost Innocense
>
> Innocense is like a cloud,
> You are only able to touch it once.
> After innocense there is unforgettable experience
> Changing our past is an unknown talent
> But the future shows hope for improvement
> Opportunities lie underneath hidden challenge
> Innocense is found among every obstacle
> But can never be touched.
> The last thing we see when we die is;
> The innocense that we lost.
>
> - Jolene Warris
>
>
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Dec 11, 2002, 7:06am
http://www.gamespy.com/previews/december02/secondlifepc/
Notice that it uses "Streaming objects" ...and full customisation...it
honestly looks like AW on steroids.....
Dear me, but it looks phenominal - and they say it has a downloadable client
of only 8 megs (though it IS only able to be used for broadband...but what
good aw world doesnt take years to download now as it is on a normal modem?)
Another AW-killer app I'm afraid .... something drastic really needs to be
done - like free aw membership or something to increase the user base,
because more and more of these new-gen mmorpg type things are coming
up..with Second Life and the Simes Online, what will AW be but just a little
peice of software on the sidelines?
F.
Dec 11, 2002, 12:29pm
[View Quote]"technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
news:3df71862 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Bad? Looks good for AW from my perspective.
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How so? The whole competition and "there are more markets" hing isnt really
working in this instance... its the old scenario - if AW had more
programmers, then it could advance and keep up more rapidly, but at the
moment, Shamus is fighting hard to merely implement features that were in 3D
systems several years ago, let alone new technologies.
AW needs to do things, like make objects easier to create and use, and
customised avatars etc..one need only look at things like the Sims Online to
see that customisation is everything to people - we in AW are still stuck
with having to use avatars that have been created *for* us rather than ones
we want to be ourselves...hmmm. Many arguments, but no..I dont tihnkt he
whole competition is healthy and good for AW argument is working anymore.
F.
Dec 11, 2002, 12:31pm
[View Quote]"brant" <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
news:3df735c0$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well, I can see what TechnoZeus is saying - perhaps this release will have
> the opposite effect in that it will give some publicity to these type of
> systems - and of course, publicity is never bad, since people will sign up
> for both this thing and for AW.
>
> AW doesn't need to "reinvent itself," however, simply because of one
> release. Version 3.4, from what I hear, would have been quite competitive
> with these systems. But I'm starting to doubt now we'll ever see 3.4 :(
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....I have 3.4 on my machine right now, and it is not near to being
competative as yet with these other systems...Shamus is still trying to slog
through (and getting there, I admit, and doing a damn fine job) to
implementing features that are several years old rather than newer ones
yet....
....too bad AW didnt invest all the money they spent on tradeshows and
"business" focused things on programmers instead....
Ho hum....but3.4 is looking quite nice :)
F.
Dec 11, 2002, 12:37pm
[View Quote]"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message news:3DF73359.A716C893 at oct31.de...
> Bad only if AW targets the gaming communities and not the chat
> and modeling folks.
>
> All screenshots of NWN I have seen so far showed fighting scenes,
> I don't feel like fighting monsters while I chat so it isn't an
> option for me.
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>
> AW has a future, it just needs a better placement, not in the crowded
> area between 3D games but in a new one, where it's still quite unique.
See, this is what many people dont understand you see this dividing line
between "games" and "chat/modelling" software...but when yuo look at things
like the Sims Online, there is no boundary here. You cant call the Sims
Online a "game"..sure it is inth e game realm, and it is in that are where
it is marketed, but do you kill each other in it? No...what do you do? you
chat to people. You form relationships. You build things......
....sounds like the kind of software AW is supposed to be, right? The only
way AW is ever going to succeed in the *long run* is for it to be given to a
greater audience...it will never truely, and *has* never truely gotten off
its feet because it had constantly been marketed as a "building and chat
tool"...people can chat on IM these days, they can build things in the
Sims.....no, I disagree - AW has to enter the more "games" side of things,
or at least start purporting to give itself "game" qualities if it is goin
to get anywhere, and I believe that this is what they have been doing with
NewAW.
So yes, it need better placement, but unfortunatly that falls under the
ubiquitous "games" category, even if it isnt strictly that itself - its time
to take it out of the "chat" category altogether.
F.
Dec 11, 2002, 8:07pm
[View Quote]"carlbanks" <CarLBanks at insight.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3df75dee$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> AW has something nothing else has......A community. We can make Bots,
build
> models, and all that. AW is getting into more Virtual Reality. I'll never
> loose faith in AW.
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If you think that AW is community...wait until you see the Sims online, that
wont just be community, it will be culture....
I'm one of the older users of AW in these forums, one of the first to use
the software - hell, I've even worked for the company, and as much as
sometimes I wish I could delete the damn thing, I always come back.....
....I just keep hoping, and keep wishing, that one day it will live up to its
potential - I wont ever give up on it, nor will I ever lose faith in it -
that was not what my comments were about, if anything, my comments are about
how MUCH faith I have in it - I would never have gone to worjk for them if I
didnt think that it was truely a magnificent piece of software....
I just want it to live up to its full potential...its been so long a hope
now - and one good thing about this is Shamus - the man is full of ideas
that would have taken SO long to implement with Roland (no offense against
him) still at the helm, and ideas that are *interesting*. Having worked with
him, I have seen where he's coming from too - and its a nice place :)
But still, there is much more that can be done, and I'm not just talking the
development side of things here....
F.
>
[View Quote]> "facter" <invurt at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3df74d94 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> news:3DF73359.A716C893 at oct31.de...
line
> things
where
you
only
to
> a
off
things,
goin
with
> time
>
>
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