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Apr 16, 2003, 5:47pm

The reason for this behaviour is, that, starting with 3.4, the AW
browser shows a referrer like: "aw://64.94.241.250:5670/aw"
(aw://host:port/islandname), while the clients up to version 3.3 showed
no referrer. In this regard, the behaviour is not a bug, but an
intended behaviour following standards.

Now, the companies who do not allow "remote loading" (eg. Geocities and
Lycos) check for the referrer and allow a picture to display only when
the referrer starts in the same vincinity as the website itself or there
is no referrer (probably to allow for email useage, since normally, even
this had to be blocked). The new transmitted referrer does not satisfy
those conditions, not to speak about the non-standard protocol type
"aw://" (which could be, apart from the above mentioned, another
condition, when those websites check for a http protocol address).

The browser identification itself (here: "ActiveWorlds/version (build)",
eg. "ActiveWorlds/3.40 (449)" does not play a big role anyway, since
serious applications would not check the presented name due to the
multiple methods of forging it (instead, they would test for the
reaction on specific methods, still not bullet-proof, but more
advanced).



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May 2, 2003, 6:29pm

Oh yeah, there were a lot of other little things we could do in the 10
seconds it takes to change a World Option... I forget what they were too...

E


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Jun 19, 2003, 6:15pm

Can I use somebodies cc?

E


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Jun 20, 2003, 4:39pm

Is your last name Linden?

E


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Jun 20, 2003, 4:49pm

Oh and BTW is there a NG for 2cndLife? In case I want to spam?

;)

E



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Jun 23, 2003, 1:04pm

Good! Maybe both platforms will benefit!

:)


E

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Aug 13, 2003, 12:44pm

Recently there have been some postings in this group that you all as the
readers do not wish to remain. It is not the intention that AWI monitors
this group as we do with the community group. In fact as AW employees we do
not read or respond to posts in this group at all.

That being said, I have recieved several emails asking for certain recent
posts to be deleted due to personal attacks on members. I am deleting
several of these. In the future if there is a post that contains offensive
material please respond to the thread with not discussion, but with the
subject "ENZO please delete". This will make the thread shorter, will not
fan the fire and will make these posts easier to find. We will not start
actively monitoring this group but may respond when threads marked like this
show up.

This is a group for you. Please use it reponsibly. If outcry is
too-much/too-often, we will have no choice but to close general.discussion


Thank you,


E

Apr 3, 2003, 4:09pm

3.4

E


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Apr 3, 2003, 4:49pm

Wellllllll....

3.4 is obviously not released yet but we have already started considering
features for 3.5 or 4.0

One feature that is near the top of the list is "movers".

While "move" and "rotate" are great little commands there is a need for a
higher level of scripting to do the things you describe.
One existing problem is the shared state of the veiwer and the object is not
shared with others. Aside from the ability to "sync" an event with the
clock you really have no control as to what everyone else sees. A door
appears to open (bump rotate 0, 0, 1) for you, but everyone else sees you
walking through it. Currently only by using a bot can you fix this problem.

Another example, if I start a move on a train.rwx it will only go to my
visible range and then disappear, this distance is differnent for everyone -
and once the train.rwx disappears... so does the command. Your command
suggestion would work for you but anyone else who walked in after it had
started would not see it, or they would see it in a different position. And
if the numbers were larger than the visible distance the animation would
stop.

A solution for these problems is "movers". Movers would probably be a
seperate class of objects which the server could recognize as a shared event
object. This would allow the server to track events that started either by a
script or an action in world. If this is done train.rwx is seen by everyone
in the same place (no matter when the entered the world... or what there
visible range is) A mover should be able to follow waypoints you could set
from coords. A mover might also allow people to "ride" it (elevators-
buses-merrygorounds- rollercoasters)

Anyways... it is on the list but not simple

E





A "mover" could travel in a specified area and be a shared event throughout.
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Apr 15, 2003, 3:45pm

CUSTOM AVS IT IS!!!

E

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Aug 10, 2001, 4:52pm

It is you prerogative to see things any way you wish. There was nothing in
that post slanted to gain your respect or pity. I am merely explaining in a
personal reply to Goober King the reason why his insinuation was false. He
had addressed it to "To Whom it may concern". He chose to post it not I.
The fact he snipped the text I included tells me that perhaps he is being
incendiary

If you read my words you will see the history of AW. Those are some of the
facts of its inception. We had practically no money and we worked really
hard. The people who were employed here at the time were very talented and
worked very hard. They were not able to make the utopian dreams of not
getting a paycheck but having a great job and still be able to pay the bills
work for them. Not one line of code was ever written for AW without having a
check being attached to it.

I assume that you have a job and if so are probably paid. Those are
realities none of us escape. Some of us are able to go out on a limb for a
time with the risk that it could crash and burn. No pity is needed, it
worked out.

Our success does not mean that we now have to do what every Goober King
tells us, nor does it give us free reign to ignore him. Many of his ideas
are valid and good. I have suggested that he work along with JBELL. The
suggestion to create a world in which we can talk together was discussed at
the Reunion. Everyone seemed to think it was a good idea. Why not work
together instead of fractioning off into splinter groups? GK has a lot to
add. Can he work with AWDebate? Does he want to? Does he need to be the man
in charge? Does HE represent a majority? He does not address these issues
with me.

It has been brought up several times as to, "why don't Rick and JP
participate in the community?" It is simply that no matter what we say we
get flamed by some very vocal posters who claim to speak for the majority.
You refuse to listen because you hold on with desperation to your petty
conspiracy theories. You plot to bring down stock prices or stage a revolt
so people won't register. When a feature is added it isn't the right one for
you. When we explain why we do something we are "greedy" or lying. It is
very disheartening to work hard and then be sworn at, called an idiot or be
told that you are lying. Many of the topics betray the ignorance of a small
but very vocal group of zealots. It is quite frankly a waste of time to
debate with flamers. If this is how you like to spend your time, that is
your right. I do not think it reflects the majority. I know it does nothing
to improve your community or the software we write.

The software, the community and the company are here to stay. Why not lose
the attitude and make it better?

E N Z O



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Hi Casay,

Thanks for writing. I am sorry if my personal letter to Bob implied anything
negative towards you. I also did not realize that he was posting it on the
newsgroup. My comment was not meant to start a debate of "custom avatars".

I wrote, "I assume this must come from a very high level programmer for it
to be "easy"."

Please let me explain:

My comment was taken directly from a quote I recieved from a user who
represents himself/herself as a CU member. My comment did not say that
custom avatars was "impossible". My comment was that this CU member was
refering to the project as "easy" and "simple". It was obviously coming from
a source that was either an extremely talented programmer or was misinformed
as to the complexity of writing 3D multiuser software. The fact that
something can be done does not mean it will be done or be done immediately.

Custom avatars can be done. The solution you describe to handle custom avs
is well thought out and very close to one which we have considered. But,
there are several other ways which may be end up more difficult to do, but
far more satisfactory for long term goals and usability. Sometimes the
seemingly easiest solution that just gets plugged in ends up haunting you
years later. You need to make sure your solutions are going to work for
years and foresee problems which may crop up later as to backwards
compatibility. This is why software devwelopers are called "architects".
Both Blaxxun and Atmosphere had the liberty to begin developement after AW.
This means they have the advantage of observing a working system. They can
develop on a different track and add features they thing they need without
having a preexisting structure. Their developers have not put in "building"
which I am sure some users would feel "easy" since they have seen it in AW.

Until AW has only one version (3.2) which includes software rasterizers,
making 2.2 unnecessary, it does not make sense to add signifigant features
like "custom avs" to 3.1. If we did, those changes would need to plug back
into 2.2, making developement time at least double. And might it be prudent
to determine whether polygonly jointed avatars running seq files was the
standard we wanted to follow. Perhaps skin and bone avatars might be a
better standard since it has become accepted by most every 3D game? Perhaps
we need to allow people to bring in avs from their game into AW? Do we keep
support of old formats while accepting the new? Do we allow any texture or
geometry or will that be abused to that offend the majority? These are
issues that the architect decides while taking into consideration the goals
of the end user be she corporate or consumer.

I assure you that I personally have custom avs very high on my wishlist and
look forward to the day we have them. I must also say that my personal
wishlist does not drive the direction of AWC. My personal wish is sometimes
based on what I want as an AW user and does not reflect the realities of
doing business. There have been many features added which are more important
for the stability and compatiblity of future versions of AW as a platform.
These are where we have put the majority of our focus of late. While I know
this is disappointing to some, I assure you we are working very hard not
only to keep AW fun for our users today but also developing it for the
future.

It seems that everytime we begin a new version there are features which
people feel are necessary and often "easy". Even while they are being added,
other features are suggested or even deemed as "more necesary". The phrase
"to many cooks" comes to mind. Activeworlds by its nature is an iterative
process. Everyone who works on it or uses it becomes part of the system
which makes it better. While many might feel that "custom avatars" are the
top of the list there are just as many who would like "multi-universe
capability", "mirrors", "guns", "voice chat", "flash support","privacy",
"block swear words" or even "more animals". While all of these may be
important, not all can be done at once. AW is growing and getting better,
pleae be patient with us. We do listen and many times take the suggestions
which often are relatively naive, such as, "why not just add a checkbox,
that can't be to hard?" and take the time needed to make it work in the real
world.

Please realize that everytime we add new features they are added into a
version which needs extensive testing both inhouse and beta. These upgrades
take time, especially when they involve the complex issues of late. Even if
a solution is "easy" adding it to a spec which is nearing completion is not
feasible. Doing so would extend the inhouse testing even further and make
the beta test more difficult. We would be adding complexity beyond that
which exists and therefore make everyone wait even longer. This would not be
wise either for business or community goals. We are very near to a beta
release of 3.2 and I am sure there will be features that make everyone
happy. As to future versions, custom avatars are on the list, whether we are
able to include them in 3.3 is just not decided as of yet.


Thank you for writing,


Rick Noll

CEO
Activeworlds Corp.
(978) 499 0222


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Aug 10, 2001, 4:49pm

Nice command, I tried it in blue and red. Looked like a police car!

ENZO
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Nov 6, 2002, 2:40pm

Hi everyone,

Over the last week or two several issues have erupted between members of the
community. This Newsgroup was not intended to be a place where names and
insults would be thrown back and forth. It is a community group and to me
that means people that are working/playing/communicating together with a
positive goal not a negative one.

I realize that there are always going to be missunderstanding between
people, and that not everyone will agree on how issues should be handled.
That being said, I also realize that by tearing others down no good results.

Several valued members of the community have actually called the office
because they are so disturbed and hurt by what is being said here in the
newsgroup. While I find it difficult to believe that anyone can be that
affected by posts here - especially since you can filter or ignore threads
or posters you do not like, I do know that people are being hurt deeply.
Since this is the case and since this is not the purpose of this group I
must ask you all to please refrain from the flame wars that are marring this
group.

While it is a very time consuming process to go through, read and delete
messages, we will being doing so to the best of our ability. If a post is
judged to be defamatory or immflamatory and of no real value it will be
deleted. I assure you some will be missed. Please ignore them. I can also
assure you that some non deserving posts will be deleted, for this I
apologize in advance.

If this newsgroup is of value to you please use it with respect for your
community.


Regards

ENZO

PS... It was a lot easier when you only flamed me and Cryonics ;)

Nov 6, 2002, 3:48pm

Yeah, right now I am deleting individual posts... wait'll I get the
killthread command down.

:P


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Nov 6, 2002, 3:48pm

BTW...

Are there any particular threads that need killing?


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Nov 6, 2002, 3:49pm

Probably

:P

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Nov 6, 2002, 4:09pm

That is incorrect.

This is a community ng. You are the community. You all have been calling
me to get stuff deleted. I will delete obvious stuff. But, I am sure there
are several conscientous people here who are aware of threads that are about
topics I do not have any knowledge of which might need a mouthwashing.

It's up to you


:)

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Nov 6, 2002, 6:50pm

Actually something is being done. We are adding an improvement to the way
worlds are listed in the World list. The listing will be based on your
rating settings. The rating setting will have a password which will be
stored on our side.

This will mean that if your setting is PG, the worlds G and PG will show in
your tab. Worlds with a higher rating would not show unless you upped your
rating. Little Johnie couldn't up the rating unless he could confirm the
password Mommy and Daddy had set.

Hopefully, this will help the conflict that now exists. As I have pointed
out in several emails, AW already has in place features that allow the user
to self censor their experience. These include "mute" "mute-on-sight"
"block" and others. These features also exist in most news readers and
email programs.

The results always depend on your willingness to not involve yourself in the
things you do not like.

ENZO



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Nov 6, 2002, 7:19pm

Nice suggestion.

BTW... next year... the CY Awards world will be required to maintain a
rating which will determined by its highest rated Nominee


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Nov 7, 2002, 1:14pm

The Cy awards are not and have never been an AW Inc. sponsored event. They
have always been taken care of by the community members who sacrifice their
time and effort to make them happen.

AW Inc. makes software. You make worlds. Those worlds have content. If
the content falls into one rating or another then there needs to be a rating
which allows veiwers to chose if they wish to visit. This feature will be
built into the software. How you use it will be your responsibility. World
owners will have to be responsible as will veiwers who set their personal
rating limits.

Your invocation of the Oscars is not logical.

Rarely (and I say rarely because I am almost positive but could be wrong)
does a X rated movie win an Oscars. There are other award shows that do
present films of that rating with awards, but not the Oscars. Also, the
Oscars as do the Cy awards often become places for advertising worlds and
philosophies.

This is not meant as a discussion point. "Policing" will be done by you the
world owner and you the veiwer - not AW.

ENZO


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Nov 7, 2002, 1:19pm

:)

I for one self censor my reading... I know who I would read messages from
and what topics are of interest. Until the recent rash of
calls/telegrams/email to the office I thought everyone in here did as well.

With 22K of messages, I was asking for a place to start looking for posts I
probably had filtered.

ENZO


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Nov 7, 2002, 1:20pm

ENZO wants to make sure that WE are not making AW history whether we think
so or not.



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Nov 7, 2002, 5:52pm

I meant it in the same vein as the anti-cigarette ads.... "Make smoking
history"

E


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Nov 8, 2002, 5:48pm

:)

Hey, Al Gore invented the information superhighway, can he be held
responsible for all the porn?

If I go down Al is going with me!

E
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Nov 8, 2002, 7:15pm

How can you miss it?

E


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Nov 8, 2002, 3:08pm

It has been ridiculous for some time. I have to go through 22,000 messages
to pick em out so nobodies feelings get hurt? I tried that. I do not have
that kind of time. Now I have moved on to deleting threads. I have only
gone back a week or two.

Please be patient

ENZO

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Nov 8, 2002, 4:59pm

how bout HEY ENZO! ?


:)


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Nov 8, 2002, 5:10pm

Ahh But those are the ones causing the commotion

E

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Nov 8, 2002, 7:14pm

If you point me to these posts that have no reference I will delete them and
be done with it. The index is reset so that people are not responding to
posts they have in cache but that are not really on the server. This is
probably where the ghosts are coming from.

E


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