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Dec 21, 2003, 1:23am

Exactly. I agree with Naughty on this. The last thing any of us wants is to
see FF get hurt.
Plz try to make FF understand it was nothing he (FF) did.
Some ppl are just users and cheats by nature.
And plz tell FF we all love him, and miss him in AW.

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Dec 21, 2003, 12:55pm

I echo sweet adora's sentiments. And I also have a pretty good idea of what
EP is/has gone through in his life. I have seen my ex-fiancee go through the
entire pre-op and post-op ordeal of a MtF TS. I was the one to convince my
friend's parents to love another daughter, rather than to mourn a dead son.
YES. I know very well of the emotional pain you have suffered your entire
life. I was right there, the entire time, giving my friend all the love and
support I could muster up. I loved the man, and I love the woman she has
become.

But not once did my dear and close friend EVER betray or deceive anybody,
and THAT is the issue here, EP. Not your sexual orientation. Get off the
"hate and prejudice soap box". It won't fly here. Ppl didn't like your
haughty and condescending manner BEFORE they knew of you sexual orientation.

Tart Sugar

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Dec 21, 2003, 1:04pm

77 - if I may offer a suggestion...
Tell FF about EP's T/G status, but don't let him read this msg board. Don't
tell FF how EP was only using him to do her GK Wannabe trip. He doesn't need
to know that. And be sure to tell FF that everybody was just as surprised as
he is to learn of EP's T/G status. It was nothing he did or didn't do.
Nobody in AW is rejecting FF. If anything, we are all "rallying around" him.
: )

Tart Sugar

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Dec 21, 2003, 8:36pm

ex-GK warning: It is very unwise to click on any url posted by somebody you
don't know. You never know what's lurking on the other side. It could
contain a virus. ; )

*calls the ASPCA and reports Ep0ch*

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Dec 21, 2003, 10:16pm

Precisely. ty, 77 : )

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Dec 21, 2003, 8:29pm

Let's talk about the weather. I thought it was unseasonably warm today in
Kuala Lumpur.

Tart Sugar
A little tart sugar will put a permanent pucker on yer kisser.

Dec 21, 2003, 10:12pm

Yes, M A T T, we passed the "Stupid Law" just for you.
Now bugger off, will ya?

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Dec 22, 2003, 12:54pm

*trips entering NG, tips over the Menorah and falls into the Christmas tree
full of lit candles, setting this entire thread aflame*

WOOO HOOO!!!!!!!! Let's toast marshmellows and make S'mores!!!!!

Happy Holidays, Alex, and to everybody else in AW.

»§«:*´`»§« ´`*:»§«*´`»{{{{{{{{{ GROUP HUG }}}}}}}}}«´`*:»§«*´`»§«´`*:

Tart Sugar

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Dec 22, 2003, 12:42pm

*rolls eyes* You sure like to see yourself type, don't you?
Ya know, if I were still a GK, and you repeatedly posted all this stuff at
The Gate, I would eject you for FLOODING. Not to mention your insistance on
making this about what God and the bible says. Not all of us are Christian.
Not all of us are even "god fearing".
Have you tried the Traveling Salvation road trip? I hear they are looking
for some good orators in the more backwards, undeveloped countries.
So would you PLZ get off your "hate and prejudice" soap box??? Re-read all
the posts "bashing" you. Only the truly narrow minded attacked you for your
sexual orientation. You were targeted by most first, for your arrogant and
condescending manner in here, and secondly, when we found out you VR married
a favorite Cit in AW solely for the purpose of forwarding your own agenda on
the GK Wannabe trip you were taking. How does your god feel about deception?

Tart Sugar

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Dec 21, 2003, 5:42pm

Yeah - that's one thing that gets my knickers in a knot. Nowhere in the
guidelines are you warned about posting .exe urls. >: /

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Dec 21, 2003, 8:21pm

Exactly. It's already "out there". I still think the chat in The Gate needs
to be on a 5 second delay so the bot can catch crapola like that before it
gets "out there".

And the GKs have a macro warning about clicking on unknown urls because they
may contain a virus. The only problem with that (only???) is that the person
who posted the url (non-.exe types) gets their shorts in a wad proclaiming
LOUDLY and repeatedly, "It's safe!!!" "It's safe!!!"

This was funny one time, though - a well known Cit kept posting urls to
pics of his. Everytime he posted another url, BANG! Up went my warning
macro. hehehe It got to be a joke. I told him he's gonna make me break my
macro. Soooooo ......... I "unbolded" and waited for the next url. BANG!
Except it was more like a "whimper". My macro went up, but not in the GK
bold. LoL!!!
Everybody started LoL and telling the "offender" he made me brake the macro
button. LoL!!!!!

As long as there are rules, there will be ppl insisting on breaking them.
And when they get *BUSTED* they will bitch and moan about the "power hungry
GKs" and the general unfairness of the entire universe.

btw, Anduin. As long as I have your attention .......
Would you fix your signature little peeping man thinger? It's driving me
CrAzY!!!!! Hit the space bar a few times on the top two lines to get his
hair and eyeballs over his fingers. LMAO!!!! plz? : ) Hee heeeee

,,,,,
(o o)
> *----------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo----------------------------*
> | Tart Sugar was here!!!
|
> *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*

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Dec 20, 2003, 12:33pm

Yeah. What Lady B. said. : )

I don't give a rat's patootie WHO is behind the Starbuilds. They are awesome
and put my measely attemps at building to shame.

"Seiya Faye" isn't the first person to misrepresent themselves in AW, and
I'm very sure will not be the last.

You all would be VERY surprised to find out that a former Cit of AW (and a
very well known and respected one) is NOT a female, but a guy.
I know him in two other universes. He just chose to be known as a female in
AW because he got more respect as a female in AW.
(his reasoning, not mine) HaHa And no, I will not reveal his Cit name, as
he still visits as a tourist from time to time.

Tart Sugar

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Dec 21, 2003, 10:26pm

Are you kidding??? AlphaWorld has no space??? It's the size of freakin'
California, for petessake!!!!! There is still PLENTY of space in AlphaWorld
to build on. It won't be full to the point of "no space" until the year
2010, I'll betcha. "No space" INDEED!!!!! Type in a random coordinate and
see all the empty space there is in AlphaWorld. Holy cow!!!
Why, I'll bet ....... ummmmmmm ........ wait ........... that isn't what you
meant, is it?

Never mind <sheepish grin>

Tart Suagr
*slaps knee* ROTFLMAO
I'm killin' myself here!!!

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Dec 21, 2003, 5:08pm

Well - I may get slammed for saying this, BUT - I have never had a problem
with Seiya. Granted, my encounters with Seiya were few and far between, but
I was always courteous and friendly and Seiya responded in kind.

Perhaps we reap what we sow?

Tart Sugar
A little tart sugar will put a permanent pucker on yer kisser.

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Dec 22, 2003, 5:17pm

[View Quote] *looks around for another likely target to vent my anger on, spies
NaughtyRedHead*

BWUAHAHAHAAA!!!!! *yanks Naughty's hair and gimps away as fast as my walker
will roll*
neener neener boo boo
*grabs her cat on the way out and leaves a ransom note*

If YoU EveR waNt to SeE the CaT aGaiN, BuY me A cit aNd a WorLD in aW
I'll bE in toUch. <eg>

Dec 22, 2003, 9:02pm

Interesting, Ananas. I can't find it on the *subscribe* list. I also went to
the AW homepage and tried to re-download it from there, and was *told* it
"was not available on the news server".

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Dec 23, 2003, 4:14pm

*drops cat back on Naughty's front porch, rings doorbell and gimps away,
grumbling*
Goll dern cat dang near ate me outta house and home, and who has time to be
rubbing ears???
sheeeesh >: /


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Dec 24, 2003, 11:42am

If anybody is still seeing the general.discussion board, I suspect it is
still in their cache. They may be seeing all the old posts, but nothing new.
Just my *puter illiterate* thought. I don't even know what you guys are
talking about half the time. LoL!!!

Tart Sugar

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Dec 22, 2003, 5:02pm

Season's Greetings and the Happiest of Holidays to all from she-CAH-go, IL

Tart Sugar
Chicago hehehe

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Dec 24, 2003, 11:48am

Yep. Yep. I believe Chicago businessman, Montgomery Ward, wrote the story of
Rudolph to bring business into his store.
And did you also know that Mickey Mouse's first name was to be Mortimer? But
Walt Disney's wife said "Mortimer" sounded too stuffy and hoity-toity.
Thank Goodness. HaHaHa

Tart Sugar

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Dec 26, 2003, 12:35am

Sheeesh Who sneezed in YER eggnog?
Merry Christmas, Carl.
~ Tart Sugar

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Dec 29, 2003, 10:45pm

I just want to know how to program my VCR.
That - and what *really* happened in Vietnam during the last days of the war
before Saigon fell.
BUT - I'll debate quantum physics and how a black hole in the AW universe
can adversely affect an old Preston bot.
After all, this IS an ActiveWorlds community board. :)

Tart Sugar

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Dec 27, 2003, 3:43pm

I agree with John. And if I may reiterate one point here, without starting
this whole stupid mess over again. The *problem* we all had was NOT with
EP's sexual orientation. It was her arrogant and condescending manner to
everybody on the NG when we tried to tell her to stop doing the GKs job when
a GK was on duty.
I suspected she VR married FF to forward her own agenda. It wasn't until
AFTER all this started that her pre-op MtF status came to light, and EP
herself tried to make this into a "sexual prejudise" issue.
The only problem most of had with EP's sexual orientation was the fact she
deceived FF about it. Period. End of discussion. PLZ.

Tart Sugar

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Dec 27, 2003, 7:59pm

OH, plz. *rolls eyes* Daphne, do you even know what the problem was with
Elven Princess???
When a newbie asked, "Is there a GK here?" and you have 2 or 3 ppl answering
back, "Can I help you?" - THAT was the problem. EP was just more insistant
than the others trying to help. THAT'S what was causing so much confusion at
The Gate.
OK - GKs do not have "the francise" on answering questions at The Gate. Then
tell me what, exactly, are they there for? To babysit? To mindlessly post
macros? (which totally annoys ppl, btw) Or to *try* and enforce the joke of
G-rated chat room guidelines????
I had no problem with other users answering all the questions they wanted to
their little heart's desire, when I didn't know the answer. I was the first
to admit when I didn't have an answer and threw it out to the room. I even
had a macro I created for myself stating that I kne44w bupkis about Tech
Support that Capaboo liked so much, she asked if she could *steal* it for
herself. YES! Some GKs are totally full of themselves. I agree. I don't even
go into The Gate when certain GKs are on duty. BUT - when a person asks for
a GK ---
LET THE GK ANSWER!
I had a Cit gram me once with a suggestion while I was on duty. I was having
a hard time getting through the concept of "G rated" to some tourists from
Brazil. This Cit told me that ppl from Brazil see no problem with talking
about sex openly. It is their culture. I grammed back a TY! and said I had
not thought of that. He then grammed me back and said - No, thank-YOU for
listening. He said GKs rarely did.
In that instance, I was more than grateful for the help. But when a Cit is
posting the EXACT same macro as the GK on duty, either one second before or
one second after the GK on duty does - then YES - I got pissed. Why have GKs
at all?

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Dec 27, 2003, 9:46pm

ROTFLMAO Yep yep.
At least I made ppl LoL whenever I GK'd. I did not take myself too
seriously. I would whisper to my ATL, "Can I eject so-and-so for a week cuz
they're obnoxious?" And of course, she'd say No. So I would *kick my puter
and mumbles under breath* - My ATL never lets me have ANY fun.
I had a macro that said .... Puts macros on auto-pilot and takes a snooze.
hee heeeeeee

Tart Sugar
The older I get, the better I used to be.


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Dec 28, 2003, 6:43pm

[View Quote] YES!!! ty I absolutely, totally agree with you, Daphne. Tourists who can
not get their questions answered will not buy a Cit.

> You have the BOLD text and that will make anything you say more
noticable...
> It should not bother you when others answer... If they are giving the
right
> answer then more power to them... You can take it easy and just listen
> incase the answers given are wrong.. Then jump in with your BOLD with the
> right answer if you know it...

It never did bother me when others answered. Heck - if somebody else was
more knowlegable about certain subjects - go for it. You are missing my
point. Ppl who feel the need to do the GKs job, e.i. warning ppl that they
are not staying within the G rated guidelines of The Gate, to stop flooding,
<whatever>, was my problem. I have always
found that when Cits, (not GKs) warn a tourist in The Gate, a fight breaks
out. The tourist wanted to know by what RIGHT the non-GK had to warn them of
anything. Then it is up to the GK on duty to restore peace. Not an easy job
by then.

>
> You seem to want to do an excellent job as a GK but I think your "GK
cloak"
> seems to not be doing it's job well enough if your macros being repeated
is
> bothering you... I've always been told that imitation is the sincerest
form
> of flattery.. :o)

Again, you missed my point. See above paragraph.

> Go over the Guidelines and other tips you should have gotten during
training
> so that less things bother you while on the job...

The guidelines??? They state that a GK does NOT need to warn a person
before ejecting them under certain circumstances, which is to be solely up
to the GKs discretion and judgement. Can you imagine what happens when a
person is ejected without warning? The GK gets a nasty-gram attack, followed
by that person eventually returning to The Gate with MAJOR issues, and feels
the need to post such issues in The Gate to get everybody else all riled up,
too. OY VEY!!!!
And I was VERY well trained by my ATL, NaughtyRedHead, tyvm, and I did her
proud.
I quit the GKs, along with my WHOLE team, because our TL didn't do diddly
squat except violate rules and basically treat her team like Second Class
Citizens.
Let me address this statement you made, Daphne ...
"The Gate does NOT belong to the GKs... It belongs to AWI and through
them, their users..."

If AWI had been paying ANY attention whatsoever to what was going on within
my team, then AWI would NOT have lost 3 VERY good GKs. As it was, we
complained, we filed formal complaints, we offered up PROOF that our TL and
her ETL hubby were violating numerous rules and codes of conduct. These
letters were automatically sent to all the ETLs and Mountain Myst, too.
And what happened? N O T H I N G
We were left to hang and twist in the wind. We all wanted transfers to a
different team, but we were denied. We were left with no other option but to
resign.

Tart Sugar


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Dec 28, 2003, 9:19pm

On 28 Dec 2003 - Daphne wrote the following message
>
> <snip>

they
flooding,
know
the
> <snip>

[View Quote] *sigh* That is what the GK explains. We have a macro for that. Explaining
what the roll of a GK is, and what all the different font colors are.

> I see no problem in a regular citizen asking a new tourist to stop
> flooding and telling them exactly *what* they are doing wrong and that
> it is annoying and could result in being kicked out of the public chat
> room.

*Asking* is all right. Warning them to stop, or else - THAT is a big
problem.

> I feel that you were perhaps a little power hungry and loved your
> rights, perhaps a little too much ;o)
> Sincerely,
> Anduin

LMAO!!! Oh, plz. I have heard that accusation against certain other GKs,
but never myself. If anything, I was more lax at The Gate than most other
GKs. I took the job seriously, but never myself. I rarely ejected anybody.
I don't recall ever seeing you in The Gate, Anduin. Did I just miss you all
the time? I am wondering on what you are basing your opinion?

Tart Sugar

Dec 29, 2003, 6:29pm

[View Quote] I absolutely agree. I ALWAYS warned, even as much as 4 times, before I
ejected anybody. After the 3rd warning in whisper, the offender usually got
it through their head that I wasn't kidding, and ejection wasn't necessary.
LoL
I don't agree with the Guidelines on that point.

>
> "Can you imagine what happens when a
> person is ejected without warning? The GK gets a nasty-gram attack,
followed
> by that person eventually returning to The Gate with MAJOR issues, and
feels
> the need to post such issues in The Gate to get everybody else all riled
> up."
>
> Yes, thats understandable, because they didnt get a warning, therefore
they
> are unaware of what they did wrong if they are new, thus another future
> citzen, GK, etc., out the window. Perhaps if the gate used warnings as
> other AWI worlds do, you wouldnt get bombed with grams or even have that
> tourist/citizen come back into the world and start up even more trouble ;)

Again - I absolutely agree. I ALWAYS warned, even as much as 4 times, before
I ejected anybody. I don't agree with the Guidelines on that point.
I am intrigured by this statement - "Perhaps if the gate used warnings as
other AWI worlds do,..."
Are The Gate warnings different from other world's warnings? The Gate has a
bot that will whisper the rules to you upon you entering, and also the GKs
have a standard set of "warning macros" along with "help macros".

>
>
>
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Dec 29, 2003, 10:37pm

OHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
*raises hand* MY FAULT!!!

Tart Sugar
The older I get, the better I used to be.

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Dec 31, 2003, 1:03pm

I really don't want to beat this dead horse anymore, HOWEVER, plz allow me
to correct a few outrageously incorrect statements...

[View Quote] Honey, I don't know which world you've been lurking in, but EVERY GK has
those macros and USES them.

> Then the registration feature, to register press the register now
> button, but what if they have no Credit Card!!?? Not one has mentioned
> to Look at your Menu on the top menu bar and then select help, then
> register and select the No CC option and it will give you the payment
> options and addresses for sending your payment to.

Again - where have you been lurking? The GKs have a macro or two telling a
tourist how to use PayPal if they don't have a credit card.

> Then comes the costs,
> it took Ry and myself to make others know that the Cost is 6.95 a month
> and 69.95 a year. Please include your user name and a valid E-Mail
> address for confirmation.

It took YOU & RY to make the costs known??? HUH??? I don't even know how to
respond to THAT ludicrous statement.
I have a headache now. o_O

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