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Jun 13, 2002, 10:13pm

It never should have been sold. It should have been given away and included
for free along with other software if need be. Alas, another obvious
marketing strategy that was ignored. For what they are paying their current
'marketing' person they could give away thousands of CD's I'm sure. It would
probably end up being cheaper then their salary as that person doesn't seem
to earn it. I've yet to see any effective marketing of AW to date. :-(

Note - Many private worlds were never added due to the possibility of
copywrite objects being included.
Casay


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Jul 17, 2002, 7:30pm

My .02 on Blaxxun. In short, it was terrible. It just went the way of other
VRML based 3D and should have died years ago. I never thought it was very
cool since the downloads were huge and there was no real time building that
I ever knew of. In other words, comparing AW and Balxxun are comparing
apples and oranges. Very different techonologies. Blaxxun did have the right
idea in keeping it free and trying to generate revenues in another way. I
imagine that's why it lasted as long as it did. Unfortunately the technology
they were using didn't attract enough people. I remember a few years back
reading that the developer of VRML said it should die off or something to
that effect.

We've tried for years to initiate discussions with AW management and give
what we feel are viable alternatives to their business model. Eep and
followers want RPG type games. I think they are missing the boat on more
Bingo (game)type worlds and need to look at the buisiness model of Pogo.com
as they have 10's of thousands of users on at any time. For any of this to
work though they need users in the worlds so they can sell advertising. Not
many companies are going to purchase advertising within a paid environment
that only have a few hundred people in it at any given time and with those
people spread out all over the place. I realize that Internet advertising
revenue isn't what it used to be. That doesn't mean companies still don't
advertise. They just spend their money more wisely. It seems years ago that
many large corporations were advertising in AW and also using the technology
themselves. What ever happened to them all? All gone not long after the
current management took over.

AW needs to be free or nearly free. ( I never thought the $19.95 a year was
too bad) Worlds need to be inexpensive as that's what keeps people coming
back and is the basis of their community. Bottom line, you have to have the
user base before any of the numerous suggestions that others have made in
the past will work. Unfortunately the actions that the management of AW keep
taking are ruining the community and forcing people to leave for various
reasons. No users = no revenue on several fronts. Trying to make all their
money from the users had obviously failed. They need to look at their users
as an assett, not all their revenue and market this place like it should be.
"To restate- Blaxxun did have the right idea in keeping it free and trying
to generate revenues in another way. I imagine that's why it lasted as long
as it did." AW needs to look at that....

Casay


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Jul 18, 2002, 4:48pm

Yes, EA also runs Pogo.com. Much more than sports games and thousands of
users on-line at any time. Would love to see those thousands of people
playing their games in AW :-)
Casay
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Jul 27, 2002, 5:07am

Would cobdump3 be OK? ;-)
http://www.activeworlds.com/cobdump3.htm
The link to the download is near the top of the page. This gives full
instructions on how to use it. If you really need cobdump2 then I suggest
trying to contact Hamfon for it?
Casay



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Sep 4, 2002, 3:03pm

Hey ya Paul! :-)
That's 15 minutes though to change and is extra work no matter how you look
at it. It's extra work to just change textures even if it doesn't take long.
Also, there's many custom seqs on his avatars and just 're-sizing' an arm
might not be that easy. Are you selling your avs at such a low price? I know
I wouldn't be and if I was I certainly wouldn't make any changes for free.

I guess I really don't understand this thread. If a person is wanting to buy
an avatar and doesn't like the looks of it then don't buy it. That's would
be the bottom line to me. To post in the NG whining that someone is going to
charge more for a custom avatar, esp when they are so low priced to begin
with is pretty childish I think. A person can always spend the hours it
takes to learn to make them and create what they want. ( Maybe then the
people that whine about this stuff just might learn to appreciate how much
work it takes to learn to create even basic objects let alone avatars!)

If you don't like the person making them.. don't buy it. If you don't like
the avatar..... don't buy it. I you want custom changes... pay for them.
Pretty simple folks!

Casay
P.S. I've been critical of some of his AVs too, same as Eep and Shan was
never offended by it. If Eep didn't offend him I can only wonder how anyone
else did.... ;-) :p~ <--- for Eep Gotta luv me!
P.S.S. I'm sick of seeing private chat conversations and telegrams being
posted in the NG!!!!!!!


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Sep 5, 2002, 9:28pm

I guess in the very first post Talisman wrote that he asked for the change
because they looked like Popeye arms and Shan said would make the change for
more money. At some point Shan was offended by the comment. Seems like
Talisman tied the 'offending' comment it what caused a higher cost. Of
course neither of us was there and that may well have been the case or not.
My point wasn't really to take sides but to point out that if someone
doesn't like an avatar don't buy it but don't expect the creator to make
free changes. I agree some people here have more tact than others. I know
you certainly do :-)

Hope you're doing well! :-)
Casay


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Sep 8, 2002, 12:49am

Yes, it sure was the BEST AW reunion!
HUGZ!!
Casay
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