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Disabling HTML in Outlook Express 5/6

Jul 15, 2001, 4:38am
We already covered this, read up:

["I was drawing a parallel between high cost/low speed bandwidth, and
having to download unnecessarily large files"
Then change your limit to what you can handle, learn to budget.]

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Disabling HTML in Outlook Express 5/6

Jul 15, 2001, 5:09pm
I have been a member in many chat services that know how to block certain
extensions (like those BMP's which are huge in file size). MSN (which I
stress is not one of them, I uninstalled their messenger) even allows a file
size limit as to an individual file that can be uploaded with an MSN
account. I am not saying MSN is the answer (nor do I like 90% of it), but
the point is in regards to the technology it is there, and you are able to
set ceiling limits.

Personally, I don't post things on message boards, newsgroups, or in
webpages that would be a significant overhaul on a connection. I would go
along probably with any file size limit you guys put out on the table. Just
consider a background, 1 pic, and html for just colors and hexidecimal code
into this limit. I wouldn't even use a background pic much, nor would I
want to post a pic all the time. There is a way to set limits, and I am all
for trying it.

I also suggest a specific html section, so those that totally don't want
html can have a html free newsgroup section while html users can use html.

I know you mentioned security holes, but it is possible to limit html
commands. All I am asking for is choice of color, I am not asking to allow
things to move and shake.

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All you people posting in HTML with Outlook...

Jul 15, 2001, 5:15pm
I see numerous references to email, not newsgroups. I am not playing naive
or think you aren't accurate associating that link with newsgroups, but
please show the direct connection between newsgroups and a security hole.

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Re: off-topic posts in here! (was Re: I'm back :-) - Disregard this if you don't like pointless messages)

Jul 16, 2001, 11:45am
Well we missed you Eep, lol

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Re: (was Re: I'm back, but wrong person !!! :-)

Jul 16, 2001, 6:55pm
Let's see, together we have added 6kb LOL

Is there a purpose? be careful of those being charged. You took the bait
kellee LOL. Do you really think I am that stupid to know Eep hasn't been
around? geesh. You don't even use logic, and run to assumptions and quick
judgements which is why I stopped responding to you in the first place.
Well, this message is a bit more than that I thought, maybe we can get 7 or
8 kb out of this.

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Re: (was Re: I'm back, but wrong person !!! :-)

Jul 16, 2001, 9:15pm
I knew very well it was not Eep. If you actually put 2 and 2 together, you
would have seen previous posters talking about filtering me. So, how do you
see who didn't? You post an obvious post that can be attacked and wait for
who bites. You bit.

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Re: (was Re: I'm back, but wrong person !!! :-)

Jul 16, 2001, 9:16pm
YEAH, LOL, now how many kb's have we accumulated gang?

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Re: (was Re: I'm back, but wrong person !!! :-)

Jul 16, 2001, 11:41pm
ok, I didn't see the posts about filtering me and made this all up. No one
would want to filter me.

My friends aren't going to respond to me like that attacking, which only
leaves the rest of the peanut gallery, and so far I guess it's just you.

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Re: (was Re: I'm back, but wrong person !!! :-)

Jul 16, 2001, 11:43pm
"I didn't see" :::sarcastically:::, for those others who read things too
literally and can't discern the truth. Just wanted to add that in.

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Re: (was Re: I'm back, but wrong person !!! :-)

Jul 16, 2001, 11:53pm
NEWS alert!!! IF YOU REALLY HAVE ME FILTERED YOU WON'T GET MY MESSAGES. You
still don't get it.

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Re: (was Re: I'm back, but wrong person !!! :-)

Jul 17, 2001, 5:10pm
yeah, I see so many of you wanting "to act dumb", lol

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Improvement Poll

Jul 19, 2001, 5:55pm
Big reason why people from communities and organizations that I am part of
outside Active Worlds don't stay here and purchase a citizenship is because
they want something free first before they pay. I don't want to get into an
argument about tourists vs. citizens, but if citizenship were free then many
of my friends would come and contribute to the overall establishment of a
community. Then this kind of action with others gives Active Worlds more
people to market worlds and additional features. To put this in
perspective, if they are not willing to give free citizenships they will
definately not finance a way to form communities and station people around
the worlds during the day.

Once something is offered for free and communities are formed, it doesn't
matter what you offer outside of the community because the people will tend
to want to stay and are willing to pay the extra money for something that is
more secure. If any of you used Firetalk before they died out, there were
people grouping together near the end to get a pay service (5/month,
60/year, that's 3 citizenships each year)just to keep Firetalk alive and not
go out of business.

Second biggy is pricing, if it costs $20 for citizenship and $69.95 to start
a world, $10 for the smallest world, we are looking at a $100 figure. I
know citizenship comes with a world, but many don't know this upfront so
after they get a citizenship they now have to decide if they want to pay the
extra or not for a world. Given they had full knowledge upfront, we are
talking about $80. Do you want to pay $80 for something you haven't tried
yet?

My suggestion with purchase of worlds is for Active Worlds to offer a $30
initial fee, then $10 each following month until that $80 is collected. If
the user doesn't want the world within those 5 months then they can get a
citizen with extra avatar choices or something for paying the fee. I think
a free based citizenship, and better marketing of priced worlds using a
monthly payment system like one I outlined would better keep people in the
program and using it.

Then when that is established and communities are formed, I am sure the new
features with software improvements will be addressed.

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Improvement Poll

Jul 19, 2001, 6:18pm
"Umm... that's what trial worlds are for, Marcus.", 30 days, not enough
time. Either you are done trying it out or you aren't, what if you aren't?
Well, I am proposing a plan to pay as you go. Active Worlds will more
likely make sales because people will be paying less each month, and over
time they'll just finish it off if they really want it.

Those are free... (define "those" - worlds being used for a month)

"And people can come in as tourists to "test" AW before they decide they
want to buy a citizenship..."

EXACTLY!!! They test it out to get a citizenship, not a world. That is the
point. If they were financed to get a world, then they might be giving
Active Worlds more money, and have a citizenship with the world. Right now,
you go to see a teacher as a tourist and then the next thing you know you
have a citizenship. Then you find out about a world, and now you pay them
$100 instead of the $80 if financed more properly.



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Improvement Poll

Jul 19, 2001, 7:24pm
Eep, unless you are AW and know what money I sent them, you have no idea of
the details. There are facts you aren't addressing, and that is between me
and AW, not you. I would have given them more let's say if I had prior
knowledge. I know what you say is true, but in practice people are not
going to know upfront to do this merging. I bought multiple things, that now
I wouldn't have if I had known upfront and just got a world.



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Improvement Poll

Jul 19, 2001, 8:09pm
That isn't the point. The point is to offer a world and citizen, not just a
citizen because people who may want worlds to begin with won't know when
they go as a tourist and learn to build. Then they decide to get a
citizenship without becoming aware of worlds services. Multiple months is
an after effect to allow people pay on a basis which doesn't seem like a lot
upfront.

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Improvement Poll

Jul 20, 2001, 8:46am
It's not AW's fault, and it's not going to be more money for them then.
It's their choice, offer the product as a whole, GET MORE MONEY, don't tell
the customer upfront, get less.

This is not a quest to find right or wrong, but to address manner. You
don't have manners, so you wouldn't understand.

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Improvement Poll

Jul 20, 2001, 11:04am
lol, my suggestion still stands regardless how many years people have been
here. I have talked to programmers and some use my suggestions and some
don't. It's totally up to them, but I can say those that did benefited and
thanked me in the end. Also, others enjoyed the improvements. So, I'll cut
you some slack too since you don't seem like the "champ" who would take
suggestions but rather attack without thinking things out.

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Improvement Poll

Jul 20, 2001, 3:36pm
Ok, you may want to re-read. Here I go with the numbering system, at least
it helps me know I have set order to the matter. You can either accept it
or ignore like you always say you will do, but must not LOL.

As it is now:

1. You sign on as tourist to preview the program
2. You learn to build
3. You buy a citizenship for $20
4. You buy a world

My suggestion was:

1. You sign on as a tourist to preview the program
2. You learn to build
3. You get an offer for $30 to have a world BEFORE getting a citizenship,
then be required to pay $10 each month for 5 months or more if you want a
bigger world. This allows people to use a world with the money they spent
on a citizenship. Then, as the months go, if they don't want a world, they
can simply opt out and still have the citizenship. Right now I would have
had a world, and Active Worlds would have more money. I am not going to
support the double-dipping scheme they have now. I don't need 2
citizenships, and I should be rebated $20 for the cost of a world.

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Improvement Poll

Jul 20, 2001, 10:43pm
LOL, well at least you can realize it is the same thing mentioned with a
different slant. Now, without flaming, can you respond to the content and
say something nice or not say anything at all?


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Improvement Poll

Jul 21, 2001, 11:19am
Where is Chicago 3d?

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Improvement Poll

Jul 21, 2001, 12:09pm
Is there site down? I have tried 3 browsers and none are able to bring that
page up.

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Re: (was Re: I'm back, but wrong person !!! :-)

Jul 19, 2001, 6:10pm
And there is no one else besides me who use html? If you notice, when my
posts are what is considered in html, I don't type in the coding. I just
copy and paste from others who use it. This is not to play dumb, but a
smart tactic because it shows I am not the only one using html.

I see the "we" in your post getting a wee bit smaller now.

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Copyright question

Jul 26, 2001, 9:06pm
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Whoever has more money and can win their case in court will be the =
"originator" of said property. If you are rich, consult a lawyer, if =
you are poor hope someone rich will fund your ideas and maybe you can go =
into venture capital.

Even if you come up with a killer idea and can support it, someone up =
the food chain will see it and well, it's bye bye idea.

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
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their case in=20
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maybe you=20
can go into venture capital.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Even if you come up with a killer idea =
and can=20
support it, someone up the food chain will see it and well, it's bye bye =

idea.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"brandon" &lt;<A=20
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Object total

Aug 21, 2001, 1:28pm
It asks for my password, are you friggin nuts?

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Object total

Aug 21, 2001, 1:31pm
correction, I apologize, still waking up. I saw password and got ballistic,
didn't see privilege.

However, tell people on the front page to change their ppw right after
signing on. I know you probably aren't someone to collect them, but someone
else but see this as an opportunity to cause nasties.

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Object total

Aug 21, 2001, 1:37pm
I only use Xelagot, and I have no problem trusting Xelag. I have seen no
complaints against him. We are not talking about a program, but a webpage.

Webpages are easier to setup than a program, hence more chances of personal
data to be collected. If the ppw didn't mean something, we wouldn't have
it. Now, you go use your brain.

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Size of a Community

Aug 23, 2001, 4:35pm
If we are allowed to change the background in worlds like AW, I'll stay

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Size of a Community

Aug 23, 2001, 6:17pm
What is CT?

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Size of a Community

Aug 23, 2001, 6:29pm
In that case no, I am not requesting Active Worlds give that.

I am requesting they allow a means like a bot where a button could be
clicked in the person's area and the background can change to an image like
with pict.rwx files. I know it isn't in place now, that is why I am
requesting it. It's something new, something I think could be added
considering there appears to be a lot harder things achieved in all worlds
that active worlds has.

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Size of a Community

Aug 23, 2001, 7:37pm
Then don't use a bot. Re-read it without a bot. Having the bot isn't the
suggestion, changing the background is.

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