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baron sweetman // User SearchchazbotApr 22, 2003, 12:39pm
"panther1403" <panther1403 at hotmail.com> wrote in news:3ea52312$1
at server1.Activeworlds.com: > hmmm is it realy worth $30? > > [View Quote] thats for you to decide, i think its cheap at the price chazbotApr 22, 2003, 12:41pm
it's limit is 5 visitors, ample for most testing purposes. note that
Chazbot keeps visitors who left the world in memory for a while to speed up returns. To clear the visitorlist press Cleanup in the visitorlist screen "panther1403" <panther1403 at hotmail.com> wrote in news:3ea523c3 at server1.Activeworlds.com: > a limit of 2 visitors? sure makes it hard to beta test. > [View Quote] chazbotApr 22, 2003, 12:44pm
"panther1403" <panther1403 at hotmail.com> wrote in news:3ea523c3
at server1.Activeworlds.com: > a limit of 2 visitors? sure makes it hard to beta test. > [View Quote] btw,any serious betatester can apply for the unlimited version chazbotApr 22, 2003, 3:26pm
"amunition121" <amun121 at msn.com> wrote in news:3ea566cb$1
at server1.Activeworlds.com: > Wouldnt say it was a dumb bot...its pretty good but i wouldnt pay for it > when there are excellent bots out there that are freeware. > <Smile> tnx i like the compliment chazbotApr 22, 2003, 3:41pm
Its ofcourse your decision to pay or not.
Whether its necessary to dub someones work as 'dumb' when you dont know what you are talking about is just plain silly. Many people shell out 30 ore more for avatars or objects, which are build much faster then a comprehensive bot like Chazbot. On an hour basis i'd need to sell thousands of copies to even make a minimum wage out of Chazbot. Trust me, this is not a 'moneymaking scheme' but just to make up for: 1 copy of BCB 6, at $2000 1 copy of 3rd party libs at $400 +/- 2000 hours of work at $60 p/h (about 10 weeks full time) If i calculate this conservatively i come to about $120000 total, so i'll just break even if i sell 4000 copies But ofcourse, as per usual why pay for it if you can gripe about the bad offerings right? "carlbanks" <CarLBanks at insight.rr.com> wrote in news:3ea55903$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com: > I'd never pay for a dumb bot since Active Worlds isn't worth buying > models, bots or anything except citizenship even Worlds aren't worth > the money. chazbotApr 22, 2003, 5:11pm
LoL Wow, BCB really is a rip off. There's always free libraries to
> replace the 3rd party ones... and there are lots of free IDEs (like > DEV-C++)... and since this _is_ a bot... you don't get paid for > hobbiest time put into a project. > > --Bowen-- > > > grins at Bowen, known fighter for freebies :) chazbotApr 22, 2003, 6:14pm
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> I am part of the linux revolution. :P > > --Bowen-- > > > wishfull thinking, i use Lindows Visual C ExampleApr 24, 2003, 3:26am
"dion" <Dion at digevo.net> wrote in
news:3ea71cc7$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com: > Could someone send me some sort of Visual C example of their bot. I > learn best from examples so erm... yeah. :-) > > Thanks, > -Dion > > check out www.petrossa.com/download/botclass.zip ChazbotMay 4, 2003, 4:00pm
To all those interested i've decided to give up on further development of
Chazbot due to the total lack of interest of this community. One final piece of advice: 1) to those that complain about the lack of community spirit.... look at yourself first 2) to those that think that the future of AW lies with our 'youngsters'... think again 3) to those that think that you can get it all for free,.... think again 4) to the rest, be well ChazbotMay 4, 2003, 5:18pm
Tnx John for your input,actually the bot is completely modular, but in
its betafase i dont want to add to the complexity of testing by supplying the bot without all its modules. some serious betatesters are sorely needed,but until now i only got 1 (count them) serious tester. But i got dozens (count them) of complaints what was wrong without any further explanation or help how to trace the problem, even from those that could get the bot for free. Furthermore, IMHO 12 meg is really not that much for any worldhoster/builder (my target group) as afaik not many worldbuilders/hosters run an dialup "john" <john at 3d-reality.com> wrote in news:3eb56308 at server1.Activeworlds.com: > Baron: I think people may not be interested because 12 meg is rather > a lot for a bot. > > Maybe if you want loads of features you should make a small bot and > loads of plugins? > [View Quote] ChazbotMay 4, 2003, 6:28pm
"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in news:3eb56a83$1
at server1.Activeworlds.com: > i would like to sign up for beta testing if you need someone to help out > > > i have decided to open Chazbot for all. unrestricted, as a friend of mine accused me i used him to test Chazbot so i could make a profit. Chazbot will be available without limits in about 2 hours at: www.petrossa.com/Chazbot/openbot/chazbot.exe ChazbotMay 4, 2003, 7:43pm
"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in news:3eb56a83$1
at server1.Activeworlds.com: > i would like to sign up for beta testing if you need someone to help out > > Chazbot is now available free of charge/limitations other then those caused by the beta test version at www.petrossa.com/Chazbot/openbot/chazbot.exe, which is the install program for the full bot. Still 12 megs, as all features are activated. Chazbot has too many features to name but in general its a: Gatekeeper, Weather, Tour, Greeter, Game Bot with upload capability to update database, Chatrelay on a P2P basis (no limit to connected worlds), Intergalaxy/world whisper facility (no special tricks, just give the targetname, bot will find out if the target is anywhere in any world using Chazbot (seperate TCP/IP interface) and a vast preprogrammed chatcommand list. Chazbot uses the (admittedly old) BDE multiuser paradox tables since they are in this context the fastest and cheapest option available. Paradox has many good features, but has also one very bad one: it is very vulnerable to computercrashes.(no rollback) A free repair utility is available at: http://www.bpsoftware.com/products/TblUtil I welcome all and any serious comment or bugreport. Depending on response i will either continue this project or drop it To recap: As i've spend about $2500 in buying the tools, and about 2000 hours in writing i'd really appreciate it if my peers could be convinced to evaluate it ChazbotMay 19, 2003, 1:36pm
Tnx, MrBruce, feel free to add any link you want and do feel free to pester
me with remarks :) "mrbruce" <A1CTWorld at aol.com> wrote in news:3ebaf2bd$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com: > If you don't mind, I will add a download link of your bot to A!!CT's > Bot Center, where people can download it from. We will also test and > use your bot in A!!CT under CT rights and try out its features, which > might very well get you some publicity on your project/s. > Best regards > A!!CT World owner 327324 MrBruce. [View Quote] chazbotMay 4, 2003, 8:26pm
I want to extend my deepest gratitude and appreciation for the unwavering
help, support and general being a real good guy to 347816, aka tag, without him Chazbot wouldn't even have come of the ground. Kudo's to tag, be well my friend chazbotMay 26, 2003, 7:17pm
I got the taste for coding again (phew :) For all those interested in
attributing ideas please let me know via my email addy petrossa at msn.com. Presently i am working on adding many database search/editing/deleting functions. My present effort is geared towards easing the purging of redundant entries in the user database (based on several queries), building a customizeable database interface,allowing the enduser to fully customize most database interface screens to the level of adding/editing/deleting displayed fields on every database UI. Also i am very interested in any effort anyone is prepared to make in cleaning up the Interworld/Universe relay part of the bot. As a reminder: Chazbot through a TCP/IP mechanism allows all Chazbot's anywhere to interconnect and in so doing allows any world in any universe which supports Chazbot to relay local chat,global chat, whisper and remote control to any other Chazbot depending on the userlevel as defined by the target Chazbot instance. Chazbot doesnt require any separate instance for doing this, if you run Chazbot as a Gatekeeper you can implement relaying without needing a separate bot instance. Same goes for the Greeter, Weather, Touring and Lighting bot They are all run through 1 bot instance thereby relieving the bot load on your world. Needless to say if you activate all functions Chazbot does put a big drain on your puter's resources.... Chazbot can also be run as a multi-user bot, meaning that Chazbot can keep track of all entries in any world/universe, tracking any name people use. The only restriction now is that Chazbot can not keep track of world names spread about diverse universes. So if there is a world NUDNIK in universe AW and a world NUDNIK in universe CW Chazbot cant keep track of the same name through the worlds. To it NUDNIK is NUDNIK regardless of universe and it will divert all relays to the first instance of NUDNIK it finds. This is not a software limitation but an imposed limitation by me to keep a balance between speed and accountability. Depending on demand i can add an AI type of chatbot, an IRQ interface or a Babelfish interface so AW chat gets rerouted through a translator site. Obviously results will depend heavily on the translator engine selected. :) This is just a general view of possibilites, if you have any kind of wish let me know... Interested in commentsJul 14, 2003, 2:24pm
Chazbot has a full set of weather config's. Allowing to link any set of
lighting settings to any set of skyboxes/backdrops, dependant on either VRT or RealTime. "scuz" <webmaster at awscape.com> wrote in news:3f12c61a$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com: > A true weather bot would be kool. > Interested in commentsJul 15, 2003, 6:38am
"scuz" <webmaster at awscape.com> wrote in
news:3f12e1f0$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com: > Thats not what i mean. I mean one that takes advantige of 3.4 > features. Like moving the sun and changing the sky colors to make it > look natural. > as soon as demand comes i can add it without any real problem. Till now i have not heard of a single person using this feature so....... Interested in commentsJul 15, 2003, 3:27pm
Amen. Anyroad, the botlag/awlag/worldlag will prevent any sky looking
from 'natural' like slowly moving clouds for example.At best you can reach a kind of jerky 'dynamic sky' on most worlds. Chazbot has the full set of attributes (inlcuding the 3.4 ones), and allows linking them to a particular skybox. So i believe best is just to set attributes once every so often on a fixed time either to VRT or RealTime. This was my premise, to link the skybox to a set of attributes and let the bot revolve them based on their time settings. This way (by for example setting the same skybox but every few minutes with different attributes) you can set the weather according to your world's speed. "kf" <none at junk.mail> wrote in news:3F142A4F.B93 at junk.mail: > Moving the sun only takes to change the light source settings (which a > proper weather bot should have done in 3.3 already). > > Using the 3.4 features will not make the sky looking more natural, > btw. For example, the 3.4 clouds do not reach the horizont (but in a > skybox, they would), the most important thing is, however, the > inability of color changes near the sun itself or the different > lighting conditions for clouds (which will not allow for real > impressive sunrises/sunsets) - so, apart from the moving clouds > feature, which can be added to a regular skybox sky as well, for the > most natural looking skies, I recommend rather a skybox set (eg. with > 20-30 frames for a complete day/night change (hint: use at least a > 512*512 resolution for each skybox side). > bingo botJul 25, 2003, 5:46pm
i am in the process of building a bingobot with the following (limited
list) features: no predefined bingocards, bot builds a fresh card for each player when he joins the game. So no need to preload the world with cards. When a player quits playing or leaves world card is deleted. Each card will be randomly generated everytime. Bot will store permanently in a database the players citnum, win/date/gamenumber, number of times played. (or whatever more info is useful to store) My question: To balance botspeed and versatility, the less it has to check for object overlap the better. So: A) who would want the bot to query the surrounding so as to quarantee the bot builds cards only in free space never overlapping, (slow) B) who would arrange the playpen so playing would be always on a level field so bot only needs to check not to build a card on someone elses card. (fast) By default and/or not enough votes i will build bot for option B. bingo botJul 26, 2003, 11:59am
"tag sva" <morespam at spam.com> wrote in
news:3f227d4a at server1.Activeworlds.com: > Option B :) > > > tsk tsk ;) bingo botJul 27, 2003, 4:27am
"scuz" <webmaster at awscape.com> wrote in news:3f22dc35$1
at server1.Activeworlds.com: > What I suggest(and doing for my bingobot) is have a object that tells the > bot where to build the cards so users can set where they would like the > cards to be. > good suggestion thanks bingo botJul 28, 2003, 3:06am
"scuz" <webmaster at awscape.com> wrote in
news:3f24834b at server1.Activeworlds.com: > no prob, itll be good to get a free one out there, and im to busy to > finish mine > :) donations are very welcome bingo botJul 28, 2003, 6:36pm
"scuz" <webmaster at awscape.com> wrote in
news:3f2565ab at server1.Activeworlds.com: > i would but im broke >.< $0.00 > well first paycheck you can donate, i am patient ;) bingo botJul 30, 2003, 5:05pm
in botworld an alpha version of a bingobot is running, if you are into
bingo take a look see and let me know your findings. Dont try to crash it, it will from itself ;) Chazbot updateJul 31, 2003, 2:16pm
Chazbot with Bingobot is available now on www.petrossa.com/Chazbot
Be sure to read to bingo.rtf before starting it up New added: Bingobot Bingogame database Tourist database and much more chazbot bingobot, contains 8kb attachment - 1 attachmentAug 2, 2003, 7:15pm
upon request the basics of the bingobot
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"jerme" <JerMe at nc.rr.com> wrote in
news:3f313c56$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com: > This is interesting... > > You can cause the world to go offline for about 10 mins by wipeing the > world with an Xelagot? > If a bot is too 'fast' i.e. sends instructions to the worldserver faster then it can handle the worldserver times out. Its a balance between bothost speed, bothost line speed, world load, worldserver host speed, and wordlserver linespeed which makes it sometimes appear spurious. Its easy to reproduce, just setup a bot that sends zillions of messages to all people in the world and see how fast your server times out.... Just my 2 cents Baron Sweetman www.petrossa.com/Chazbot World stops runningAug 7, 2003, 6:13am
"jerme" <JerMe at nc.rr.com> wrote in
news:3f31d2ec at server1.Activeworlds.com: > Ok, so... now that we have established this as a real, reproducable, > problem.... (and no one can say it's just *my* server that's being > weird)... > > Shouldn't there be a solution to the problem? Some sort of sytem to > throttle the number of commands the server will accept? > > What causes it to go down in the first place? Why can't it handle such > a heavy load? Basicaly, what part of the server breaks when under that > much stress? What determines how long the server is down and how long > it takes to "catch up"? > > I imagine the solution is a multi-threaded server model (much like the > Apache model, with the parent control process and children that > process requests), powered by a real database like MySQL. > > -Jeremy > The solution is simple, build in waitstates in the bot, preferably configurable. The server just gets a buffer overflow and shuts down to prevent damage. Normal good procedure. World stops runningAug 7, 2003, 6:16am
"bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in
news:3f31de7c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com: [View Quote] what did Goober say? Oh yes, http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame21.html ;) |