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Feb 1, 2003, 7:25pm

"bowen" <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com.ANTISPAM> wrote in news:3e3c1973
at server1.Activeworlds.com:

>
[View Quote] print? i know printf, sprintf, fprintf never heard of print :)

Feb 17, 2003, 9:29pm

Sorry i really didnt want to mix in to this, but hardcoding citnames? At
least read in the references from a file, sheesh


for (int i=0,j=0;i<readfile("whatever.txt");i++)
if (check_avnumber(i))
aw_whisper_session("Whisper password to gain rights");
else
if(check_password(j=aw_int(AW_AVATAR_SESSION)))
processrights(j);


"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in news:3E512C51.213121E1 at oct31.de:
why use strdup?
ChatMsg = strdup (aw_string(AW_CHAT_MESSAGE));
Chatmsg = (char*)aw_string(AW_CHAT_MESSAGE); saves memory allocation

Feb 19, 2003, 6:36pm

Ment to answer to the original post not to you Pineapple :)

"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in news:3E53E114.E069AF51 at oct31.de:

> Wrong post to answer to, I just commented on the coding style,
> not on the concepts.
>

Jun 11, 2003, 10:19am

"xelag" <xelag at digitalspace.com> wrote in
news:81qdevkhodhvrh7q6ipajbhg5edcpafs1l at 4ax.com:

>
> In practice, I noticed that since the almost first 500 numbers which
> could correspond to error codes are seldom used as legitimate session

I had a few times a low sessionnumber show up, i decided to leave it in
anyway as the counter climbs fast the ostrich algorythm is a good
workaround here ;)

Jun 11, 2003, 7:54pm

IMHO the SDK sends spurious info quite a lot of times, i had to add
quite a lot of code just to sort out spurious returns from actual
returns

AVATAR_ADD Events are particularly sensitive :(


"tony m" <pcgeek05 at myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:m17fevkpiucrtkpmdfmk7i8fgtf6omrrl5 at 4ax.com:

> One oddity that Xelagots make more of a note of is that sometimes a
> global bot will receive an AW_EVENT_AVATAR_CHANGE/DELETE without an
> AW_EVENT_AVATAR_ADD event.
>
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Jun 17, 2003, 10:51am

www.petrossa.com/Chazbot, has a full set of avatar settings on a per
visitor basis

"lady barbara" <barbeisner at msn.com> wrote in
news:3eeed4a0$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> I was just told by Support (Myst) that one could use a bot or
> whatever to set avatars. This would somehow allow me to have more
> than just the two tourist avatars.
>
> --------------------------------->Snip<------------------------------
> Yes, you could have more than just the 2 tourist avs if you are
> running a 3.4 world. I would suggest asking in the world owners or SDK
> newsgroup to see if someone has a bot that chooses avatars for people.
> Kellie Williams/Mountain Myst
> Community Services
> --------------------------------->Snip<------------------------------
>
> In the very near future I expect to have a number of tourists from
> another universe (chat program) to come visit on a certain day. (More
> about that in a few days--AW citizens will also be invited!) I would
> like to have the visitors have a wider choice of avatars. Is this
> possible? How would it be done? Please keep explanations simple--I
> know very little about bots.
>
> Thanks in advance!

>
> Lady Barbara of Amberlin
> aka Barbara Eisner
>
>
>

Jun 22, 2003, 4:15pm

Lol, tnx for the input, doesnt detract from Chazbot being able to govern
Avatar usage :)

"xelag" <xelag at digitalspace.com> wrote in
news:kbr5fvs4svk6dseipaiatimdcae46rmr9c at 4ax.com:

> The current SDK build 31 has a bug: it will set correctly the avatar
> of a tourist to a number higher than 1 (0 and 1 are the tourist
> avatars), but the bots will "see" the tourist as wearing avatar 0.
>
> The bots get in this case two avatar_change events for the tourist:
> the first one with the correct avatar number (say avatar number 9),
> and inmediately afterwards, one with avatar number 0 for the tourist.
>
> Avatar_add events for this tourist give avatar 0.
>
> I file in a bug report to Bill about this.
>
> Alex
>
>

Jul 21, 2003, 12:25pm

you mean as Chazbot does? :)

"bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in news:3f1b7e9c$1
at server1.Activeworlds.com:

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Jul 31, 2003, 12:46pm

"swe" <swe at swe-e.com> wrote in news:3f2918c3 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> hey, i need a little help with getting an avatars location. i want to
> know if there is anyway of finding an avatars location, without the
> need of keeping a database which updates every time an avatar moves?
>
> thanx :)
> -SWE
>
>

you can store them in memory ofcourse

Aug 1, 2003, 5:21am

"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in news:3f294e47
at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Isnt that basically... like keeping em in a database?
>
> - Mark
>
[View Quote] yes only without the database :)

Aug 1, 2003, 5:23am

"swe" <swe at swe-e.com> wrote in news:3f2971dc at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> btw, anyone know how to get a newline in aw with the aw_whisper thing?
> :) dont wanna make the poor bot keep on whispering to the same person,
> waste of bandwidth and cpu and all :)
>
> -SWE
>
[View Quote] methinks it wastes almost the same bandwidth of you send 1 long message or
several short ones.

Aug 1, 2003, 4:20pm

"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
news:3f2a9fba$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Database = Structured list of attributes pertaining to a certain
> item... like a struct or class ;)

Sorry my mistake i should have had my Oxford with me before answering you
instead of using the everyday interpretation of the word as in database, an
application which stores information permanently on a physical medium for
later retrieval :)

Aug 1, 2003, 5:45pm

"joeman" <joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in
news:3f2abc24$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> There's six bytes of overhead in a aw_whisper message. So,
> considering \n is two bytes, we can say that 4 bytes * number of lines
> that are being sent is saved ;). But, we also have the limitation of
> maximum message size and all that to take into account too :O.
>
> -Joe

That AFAIK being 255 bytes the overal savings are minute, so 'almost' as as
close to the reality as possible without getting into to much detail :)
But it does save on each line being preceded by the bots name which does
look nicer i must admit. It would be a good idea if the whole SDK where
overhauled taking modern pc's and bandwidth possibilities in mind. I've got
a slew of functions i would like to see the limits taken off or extended.
However viewing AW's present state is not likely to happen :( Maybe once
they will see the light and make it open source. They could leave out the
sensitive bits having to do with tunneling...

Petrossa

Aug 2, 2003, 5:03am

"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
news:3f2ae13b at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> \n = 2 bytes??? In Hex? I thought
> \n = 0x10 and \n\l or whatever the other 1 was was 0x10 and 0x0D
>
its \r \n for newline

Aug 2, 2003, 8:19am

"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
news:3f2b8672$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Ahh, but this is the programming newsgroup ;)
>
> - Mark
>
strange i always thought it was the SDK newsgroup, another thing learned.
Tnx Mark

Aug 2, 2003, 10:30am

"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in news:3f2b9e82
at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Hmmm. I always just used chr(10) without problem...
>
> chr(10) and chr(13) for carridge return
>
> - Mark
>
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Aug 2, 2003, 6:59pm

"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
news:3f2bfcc9 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> hmmmmm, the \r just gets anihalate when I try it.... only the \n
> remains. Try pasting 10 and 13 dec chracters into the AW chat window,
> and then try sending them though a bot.
>
> - Mark
>

i am talking about using a bot ofcourse :). How the AW browser handles
special chars i am sure i dont know

The whole issue was you asking why 2 bytes where used for a newline as
Joe pointed out in response to my remark that the overhead of sending one
large message filled with newlines was almost the same as sending
seperate messages so the bandwidth waste would be of no concern.

In C, and i seem to remember the same goes for Basic (but dont hold me to
it the last time i really used Basic was somewhere in 1982)

The \r stands for carriage return (which is 0A (10))
The \n stands for new line (which is 0D (13))

So if you create a text, you need to insert \r\n in the sentence to get
it the go to a newline. The precompiler then translates the \r to hex 0A
and the \n to 0D

printf("mark\r\nthis is a new line");

ofcourse you can do:

printf("mark\x0A\x0Dthis is a new line");

however this is somewhat cumbersome i think :)

If you use only new line the cursor will stay where it was the last time
If you use only carriage return the cursor will just return to the
beginning of the line.

Hence you need the pair to specify a newline, cursor at the start

Us old guys might remember the time when we used a typewriter (you might
find one in a museum somewhere) where you needed to push a large lever
which ratcheted the roll a few clicks further while at the same time you
could move the whole carriage to the left.

Here the newline pair was born.

This translated into a teletype instruction, which in turn was the base
for this.

I hope this puts this to rest.....

Aug 2, 2003, 7:11pm

"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
news:3f2c2744 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Hmmm, i always use \n only in printf's
>
> - Mark
>
so then you know why there is 2 bytes overhead for a newline and not one

Aug 7, 2003, 3:40pm

"xelag" <xelag at digitalspace.com> wrote in
news:q525jvcq957dk69js24e8uil9kftmo56r2 at 4ax.com:

> On 2 Aug 2003 17:11:56 -0400, "baron sweetman"
[View Quote] \r \n sorry, 2 bytes

Aug 7, 2003, 3:52pm

"baron sweetman" <petrossadeletethis at msn.com> wrote in
news:Xns93D0C6E6756BCpetrossa at 64.94.241.201:

one
>
> \r \n sorry, 2 bytes
>

http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/crlf

Aug 8, 2003, 3:50am

"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
news:3f32b4a2 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> We know... but try this:
>
> aw_string_set(AW_CONSOLE_MESSAGE, "This is line one\nThis is line 2");
> aw_console_msg(<you>);
>
> aw_string_set(AW_CONSOLE_MESSAGE, "This is line one part 2\r\nThis is
> line 2 part 2");
> aw_console_msg(<you>);
>
> The \r is not really valildated, but both will print on 2 lines.
>
> - Mark
>
>
[View Quote] non standarisation is slowly spreading, what can i say :) Must be said in
all fairness the newline was never that standarized anyway, but still on
a dos based platform it was pretty much standarized to crlf.

Not that i mind its better to have one char then 2 chars for a
newline.....

Aug 11, 2003, 4:24am

"bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in
news:3f37254d$2 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

[View Quote] i tend to 'delete' any memory allocated with 'new' in c++, makes for less
memory leakage. For the rest it's very straightforward i look forward to
the full implementation :).
Keep up the good work

Aug 11, 2003, 4:53am

"bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in
news:3f373839 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

[View Quote] pity, i could use a well build botclass :) Grimble was starting one but
he stopped, maybe i should post mine if it wasn't so completely
uncommented and absolutely not following any rules of design :)

Aug 11, 2003, 10:49am

"bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in news:3f37542f$2
at server1.Activeworlds.com:

>
> Well, let me start school and get some of my damn free time back. :P
> The fast food industry loves me, what can I say.
>

one Big Mac please

Aug 12, 2003, 4:09am

"scuz" <webmaster at awscape.com> wrote in
news:3f372c09$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Could somebody please make a tutorial explaining how to change
> terrain
> heights with the vb sdk, or tell me so I can create one.
> ------------------------------------
> Scuz
> Awscape.com/.net/.org Webmaster
> Visual Basic Programmer
>
>

and in C++ for me please

Aug 12, 2003, 4:43am

"bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in news:3f3887ed$1
at server1.Activeworlds.com:

[View Quote] Documentation? you mean that snippet of text describing the function
call?

Aug 12, 2003, 7:35am

"bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in news:3f38ab37$1
at server1.Activeworlds.com:

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Aug 13, 2003, 3:26am

"milesteg" <MilesTeg at nerim.net> wrote in
news:3f396ca6 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> HI , few months ago, a friend asked me for a bot to modify terrain
> so I made Terraformer using Visual C net. it was my first bot in C++
> :) it is a console based bot that let the users interact with it via
> the chat it has a basic rights feature so you can allow only few ppl
> to have full access to it
> it uses only 1 instance and is monothreaded but it still accept
> several users requests in the same time ( using a queue to schedule
> them) it loads terrain page when necessary so it can build way beyond
> world limit.
>
> It is poorly commented but I hope this will help you
>
> Regards,
> MilesTeg
>
> PS: if you want to compile it , you will need the boost library ( used
> for the regexp)
>
Vous etes un ange :)
--
If polluting the Environment is against the law it follows that human
procreation should be outlawed

Apr 19, 2003, 6:42pm

the writer of chazbot was severly ill from a virus and is now getting
slowly back to health again. Chazbot will be continued, betatesters are
sorely needed.......



"panther1403" <panther1403 at hotmail.com> wrote in
news:3ea18c1f at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Is chazbot still under developement? I have used the beta and it looks
> great but still has lots of bugs. The web site for it hasnt been
> updated for a long time.
>
>
>

Apr 21, 2003, 6:32am

version 0.9 build 134 of Chazbot is now available at
www.petrossa.com/Chazbot

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