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Jun 3, 2006, 4:19am

How weird, the previous build caused me some off slowing problems when
switching between 3.6 and 4.1 but since todays update I have not noticed
anything bad. I've been in the newest browser for hours today... course I
wasn't looking at my cpu usage nor was I doing what I normally do either.
Tomorrow I will be better able to judge, now that I have a server running
again, once I start building, playing in Photoshop and messing arount in
3dsMax, I can better decide if I am having the same issues as yourself.

Jun 3, 2006, 2:03pm

:/
http://www.darkestdestiny.com/usagechart1.jpg
Shows aworld.exe in the background, with taskmgr in the forground at the
beginning of the chart, you then see a spike to 100% when I click on the
aworld.exe window that then drops to 5% to 20% for the next few minutes
while I am only standing in my world which contains only 2 object
models(about 1000 scattered over a p-50), but I am at vis 200.

http://www.darkestdestiny.com/usagechart.jpg
This chart shows me flying around the world. the longer I flew around, the
higher it seemed to get. Again, vis 200, and only 2 models in the world, but
it is terrained.

Hard to say what real usage will be like, but does seem on the surface to be
a little cpu intensive. If you were using a laptop with a battery, then I
can certainly understand the hesitation to use the new browser, but how does
it compare to the 3.6 browser?

Jun 4, 2006, 1:33pm

and where do you find this fancy tool in windows to monitor these handles?

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Jun 4, 2006, 1:41pm

I downloaded the new version and then took a spin around AWGate. Basically
flew around in a square over the "great wall" that borders it, I made sure
my cache was fully downloaded first...

Here is a chart of 3 circuits around the above couse:

http://www.darkestdestiny.com/usagechart2.jpg

That's pretty intensive. :)
Are we letting the gpu do any of the work at all? I'm using an AMD Anthlon
64 3500+ w/1Gb ram, and a nVidia 6800 Ultra with 256Mb ram.

In the middle of AWGate I am getting from 7-20fps... most elsewhere is
around 20-40fps and beyond the "great wall" I get 80 to 100fps.


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Jun 4, 2006, 1:43pm

Cool, I'll check it out thanks.
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Jun 4, 2006, 1:45pm

Guess I am using a different version than you, that menu does not appear to
be there, but I'll keep looking. Maybe it's an addon with your programming
language installed?
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Jun 4, 2006, 1:45pm

Ignore me. :P I found it. Sorry

Jun 4, 2006, 2:04pm

While I was in my world, I went to teleport to AW, and it didn't... instead
my terrain in my world disappeared... so I tried teleporting again, nothing
happened then all the objects in my world disappeared, and I ended up being
under water, but barely able to move... just a blue gradient screen. I
looked over at the server and it's showing my IP address with:

06/04/2006 08:59:12:000 Client TIMEOUT: 192.168.1.1:xxxx 0 0
>GARBAGE<

etc, several times.

Jun 4, 2006, 4:41pm

Was working just fine yesterday.

<log snip>
06/04/2006 11:25:44.468 HEARTBEAT
06/04/2006 11:26:45.453 HEARTBEAT
06/04/2006 11:27:26.625 192.168.1.1:1682 CONNECTION
accepted [0]
06/04/2006 11:27:26.859 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
EVENT MASK 0x277b
06/04/2006 11:27:27.000 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
ENTER Talisan 296829 296829 949 [0]
06/04/2006 11:27:27.328 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
QUERY 10 bytes for 0N 0W - up to date
06/04/2006 11:27:27.406 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
TERRAIN QUERY 0 0 262 0
06/04/2006 11:27:29.000 Serene WORLD STATUS: U:1 A:1 R:1
06/04/2006 11:27:42.593 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
QUERY 10 bytes for 0N 1W - up to date
06/04/2006 11:27:42.640 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
TERRAIN QUERY 1 0 130 0
06/04/2006 11:27:46.468 HEARTBEAT
06/04/2006 11:27:52.921 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
QUERY 10 bytes for 0N 2W - up to date
06/04/2006 11:27:54.546 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
QUERY 10 bytes for 1S 2W - up to date
06/04/2006 11:27:54.609 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
TERRAIN QUERY 0 -1 15 1
06/04/2006 11:27:54.640 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
TERRAIN QUERY 0 -1 29 1
06/04/2006 11:27:54.734 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
TERRAIN QUERY 0 -1 43 1
06/04/2006 11:27:54.843 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
TERRAIN QUERY 0 -1 57 1
06/04/2006 11:27:54.968 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
TERRAIN QUERY 0 -1 72 1
06/04/2006 11:27:55.203 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
TERRAIN QUERY 0 -1 85 1
06/04/2006 11:27:55.234 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
TERRAIN QUERY 0 -1 97 1
06/04/2006 11:27:55.343 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
TERRAIN QUERY 0 -1 109 1
06/04/2006 11:27:55.437 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
TERRAIN QUERY 0 -1 121 1
06/04/2006 11:28:47.031 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266
DISCONNECTED
06/04/2006 11:28:47.062 Serene:0 192.168.1.1:1682 296829 18266 LEFT
Talisan 296829 296829 949
06/04/2006 11:28:47.468 HEARTBEAT
06/04/2006 11:28:49.000 Serene WORLD STATUS: U:0 A:1 R:1
06/04/2006 11:29:48.468 HEARTBEAT
06/04/2006 11:30:21.562 192.168.1.1:1688 CONNECTION
accepted [0]
06/04/2006 11:30:34.015 Client TIMEOUT: 192.168.1.1:1688 0 0
>GARBAGE<
06/04/2006 11:30:49.453 HEARTBEAT
06/04/2006 11:30:59.781 192.168.1.1:1691 CONNECTION
accepted [0]
06/04/2006 11:31:12.000 Client TIMEOUT: 192.168.1.1:1691 0 0
>GARBAGE<
06/04/2006 11:31:37.734 192.168.1.1:1692 CONNECTION
accepted [0]
06/04/2006 11:31:50.015 Client TIMEOUT: 192.168.1.1:1692 0 0
>GARBAGE<
06/04/2006 11:31:50.453 HEARTBEAT
06/04/2006 11:32:15.781 192.168.1.1:1697 CONNECTION
accepted [0]
06/04/2006 11:32:28.000 Client TIMEOUT: 192.168.1.1:1697 0 0
>GARBAGE<
06/04/2006 11:32:51.484 HEARTBEAT
06/04/2006 11:32:53.734 192.168.1.1:1700 CONNECTION
accepted [0]
06/04/2006 11:33:06.015 Client TIMEOUT: 192.168.1.1:1700 0 0
>GARBAGE<
06/04/2006 11:33:31.781 192.168.1.1:1703 CONNECTION
accepted [0]
06/04/2006 11:33:44.000 Client TIMEOUT: 192.168.1.1:1703 0 0
>GARBAGE<
06/04/2006 11:33:52.468 HEARTBEAT





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Jun 4, 2006, 5:26pm

I uninstalled that 949c copy of the browser. Seems my garbage problems are
over with... for the moment

Jun 5, 2006, 12:44am

I'm assuming you reinstalled your graphics drivers. However, before doing so
did you switch your graphics driver to a generic VGA driver? Also, a while
back, some graphics card makers gave out a utility to use as a second step
before installing new driver, and it would completely erase all the old part
of the driver. You might also look into downloading from microsoft that
latest copy of DirectX, even though your automatic updates probably did it
for you many moons ago... can't hurt to rerun it.

Short of the problems with masks, facers and the like, I am having a grand
time graphically speaking. However if I am online using the 949 browser for
a couple of hours it eventually starts getting really slow and if I ignore
it and don't shut it down, windows reboots. Could also be a heat related
issue too since I may be stressing the gpu/cpu with the bazillions of
particles I am using. *shrugs* Need to get myself a monitor for that and
check.

Jun 6, 2006, 1:10am

I'll check it out, thanks Andras

> http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
> Excellent tool!
>
> --
> Andras
> "It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)

Jun 6, 2006, 3:21am

lol, guess I need a couple more fans! Wow does my cpu get hot fast when I go
into AW. Shoots up by 10C in a minute or so, so does the case ambient,
though not as fast, the hard drives go up by a couple of degrees as well
that's just probably part of the cascade from the cpu. I've not tested it
for 2 hrs, will do that tomorrow.

Jun 4, 2006, 9:36pm

Yes, this fixed my problems as well, but for some reason made it impossible
for me to remain in my world for more than 2 minutes before things went
south. It's in the right direction. I reinstalled 949 without the c so I can
play in my world.

Jun 4, 2006, 10:25pm

It fixed some problems I was having yesterday and made new ones which I
found to be unacceptable. So I installed the older version instead because I
can live with the old problems for a little while until AWI can fix them
properly without creating new problems I can't live with.

> Okay... this is kind of confusing me... you said it fixed your problem yet
> it made that "impossible" before "things went south". Then you said it's
> in the "right direction". Then you said you "reinstalled 949 without c so
> you can play in your world"? This is kind of back-and-forward. One
> condradiction after another. o_O

Jun 6, 2006, 1:07am

With the original 949 eventually after and hour or two it starts to freeze
up.. for a couple of seconds at a time, that's when I know I have to shut it
down and reboot so I can use it for a couple of more :)

Jun 10, 2006, 2:36am

*chuckles* Your precious 3.6 Universe will now live at least until the
16th... it's had a temporary stay of execution. :P~

Jun 5, 2006, 4:28am

And I mean that seriously. Despite the issues, I have not had so much fun
building in a long time. I think the new features in the browser are just
great! The particle emitters are my favorites, but the zones and movers are
very cool too.

I'd also like very much to thank Andras for all his awesome utilities, time
and support of this community. I know there is no way I could be building
the things I am without them. Thanks for being patient with me. I know I can
be taxing.

-Tal

Jun 7, 2006, 10:33pm

I hope that was a joke. *rolls eyes*

Jun 7, 2006, 10:36pm

But could his post have been at most 1 or 2 paragraphs to make his point? :)
I got glossy eyed after the second paragraph ;)

Jun 8, 2006, 7:23pm

I saw one in the bath this morning. What has this to do with masks? :)
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Jun 8, 2006, 11:53pm

Personally I find this new ver4.1 telegram crap a pain in the butt.

And, the reason why is that someone can flame you, then revolk your
priveledge to reply in kind in a moments notice. Not only can they piss you
off, but they can rebuke you as well... doubly pissing you off with no means
to retaliate, no means to ammend, no means to do a darn thing. You can't
make up, fess up, or make it worse. You're just **** out of luck period.
Doesn't matter how much you love or hate the person... its absolute.

I think it sucks.

_Tal

Jun 9, 2006, 12:37am

Well, I have discovered that no matter how much you like a person, once they
have blocked you in AW, you are blocked period. There is no apparent way to
make ammends, whether they were right or wrong for thier actions. So thusly,
I also discovered that IF their actions were faked for comercial reasons...
which seems to be absolutely accepted by the community. Don't understand it?
Neither do I.... we don't have enough capital to grasp it!
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Jun 9, 2006, 1:35am

ok Sweets, please send me an invite... we'll play this game together eh? I
promise not to block you... well, I will try at least, and well, I will hope
you won't block me either... I mean, I will do my best not to provolk you
too at least. Will you take the challenge?

Jun 9, 2006, 3:16am

*pouts* Meanie. :(

Jun 11, 2006, 1:41pm

Really?! I think I'll try out the tif format. For grins.
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Jun 11, 2006, 5:19pm

No wonder it didn't work ;)

Jun 9, 2006, 6:34pm

Has anyone else noticed that their avatar blinks out of existance sometimes
when falling down a hillside? Is it just me? :)

-Tal

Jun 9, 2006, 7:39pm

Hmm, well, I'd like to fix it if anyone has an idea :)) hehe. Has anyone
comletely documents the avatars.dat? I'd love to read those docs.
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Jun 10, 2006, 5:50am

You can make much larger textures for your OP if you want to, I do for some
things, but ultimately the browser shrinks them down to maybe 256x256. I've
been using 1024x1024 for a couple of things, and to me these images look
sharper than equivelant 256x256's I've made on the same objects and terrain.
The sand terrain in Serene looks very sharp to me and I used a large texture
for it. The grass near GZ however I used a smaller image on and it seems a
little blurry and has jpeg artifacts in it which I'd like to fix. I know
some people frown on using large textures, but I like the results.

-Tal
http://www.darkestdestiny.com/image000.jpg <--particle power

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