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.duo. // User SearchTo the builders of A!!CT worldJun 30, 2003, 12:06pm
I personally think an RPG or a game world with one would be awesome. I would
love it if I could help. You DEFINATELY should wipe the world and start over, but be sure to keep a BACKUP of it so if you wanted to, you could restore things like the GZ. I am up for helping in any way possible, and if it becomes an RPG I definiately want to help. I have always wanted to build an RPG, but I never have had the resources or proper organization, resources, and planning to do so, and I'm sure that A!!CT would be a prime world for an RPG. Also, if you wiped A!!CT and then reorganised it, keeping it a public build world, that would be great too. What happened last time is that build rights were given before the world was organized in any way. This is what caused A!!CT to become a mess. I honestly think that the GZ in A!!CT is nice, and should be kept if possible, but I also think that a new, less cluttered, smaller GZ would be good too. I would love to help organise this if its what you do. I do however, do not think proposal 1 is a good idea. We want to encourage tourist building, not the opposite. I have a great idea for how you could keep tourist builds in shape, and I assure you that it won't be ludicrously hard to carry out. I also have an idea of how to make it more difficult to delete tourist builds. [View Quote] To the builders of A!!CT worldJun 30, 2003, 12:49pm
In fact, I will respond to other people's idea.
" Hi Mr Bruce,I have just read your writings about A!!ct world and its possible future with several alternatives. I will think about what you have written and certainly get back to you with my opinion or possible solutions.... You will probably remember the names Silverlinerv, MmeOdiles and Lord Denzel.... Yes, we are three in a family that really enjoy A!!ct. I rarely go to any of the other worlds, so I feel totally concerned about A!!ct's future...I will get back to you by email but for now it is late and I need to get offline. One of the A!!ct citizens" Nothing really to respond to. "Bluelaser5000: we need 2 swear to all of aw nothing bad will ever happen in A!!CT again that will make ppl hate it. Bluelaser5000: and wipe world and start over, Bluelaser5000: like promise in a newsgroup or maybe the message when u enter aw if aw would agree " I agree, we should try extra hard to keep A!!CT from being scorned by anyone. Definately any of those plans (excluding 1) would require some form of world wiping, thats a given. "MrBruce, About 5 years ago, I used to frequent this world called GinEric. After building several nice areas, I found the world crashed and my buildings were lost. As a result I lost interest and now I have come back to show my seven year old daughter a fun 3-D place. This is how I found A!!CT as a new tourist. Here are my comments to the proposals: >PROPOSAL #3 We are considering wiping A!!CT and rebuilding as a new role playing world and no longer allowing open building. We can make this an adult role playing world forbiding minors, or direct this towards the younger crowd in AW. I find role playing worlds end up being too violent for my liking. Least interesting to me. I am a Dad that will be playing AW with my kids. >PROPOSAL #4 We can make A!!CT a multi game world, containing multi bot controled games as well as a role playing game, as the world size can accomedate these possabilities and with open build no longer allowed, we can then disable fly and pass-thru. Not interesting to me. ditto >PROPOSAL #1 We are considering a complete wipe of all citizen #0 builds which will clean A!!CT of all Tourist builds, which in all probability are already half destroyed, altered or deleted and just taking up space. Not a bad idea sometime. I would consider choosing between #1 and #2 PROPOSAL #2 We are considering wiping A!!CT world all together and starting over again with a whole new world, citzens will be left with the option of saving their builds with a bot. This is probably the best proposal, but it still does not address how to find new land to build upon. When visiting, I found it very difficult to find building space. It may be useful to limit the amount of building space to members to a certain amount of square meters, and the amount of building space to visitors to a much smaller amount of space. I also would like to suggest that there is a need for a bot that would find a homestead for new visitors so that one can find land. Another way to fairly distribute land is to wipe out builds of tourists that have aged. Land that is being built upon needs to be close to other people. As the world grows, the people continue with urban sprawl and build further and further away from the GZ. So what happens is that people are no longer talking to each other because they are further and further away from the rest of the people. It's now easy to see that there are four things that are much needed. 1) Need a theme that makes A!!CT a fun place to meet. How about a modern city 2) Need infrastructure that is provided by the world such as roads and a good public transportation system that connects all parts of the world back to GZ. I would suggest some sort of a rail or people mover line that lets people see the country side while being transported to their new location. 3) Need plenty of meeting places where people can hold conversations. For example, I found Kaitlyn's pool to be a big draw in one of the Gineric worlds. See http://www.geocities.com/kaitlynr. A disco works well also. I am playing with one at 129W 129N. But I have seen much better. The first thing I would like to see is a list of public works projects and allow people to participate in building them. I would expect many of these to be near GZ and immediately connected by the transportation system. 4) I found it nice to have someone show me how to build. It's a lot of fun teaching people how to build in a new world. Konrad Roeder North Bend, WA Age: 46Tourist name:NumberToo or NumberTwo " A lot of nice points. I agree that a road system is 100% neccesary. Not only to connect the world, but to organize it and prevent over claiming. You could have an address for everything (example: NEBlock15) or even streets and street addresses. I think a railroad system is not a good idea, because it would not be able to reach every build in every part of the world. It just won't work. Also with the addresses you could have a directory which would list free land, and in fact possibly even claim the land inside and require someone to ASK for the land, which would solve the problem of over claiming. I'm not sure about a theme though. A world theme would make building boring. A GZ theme however would be a nice idea. Actually, if the road structure and such had a theme it would be good. Chatting across the world can be solved with 3.4. All you have to do is hide chat, and have what people say repeated in a console message by a bot. This way, no matter where you are in the world, you could chat. HOWEVER, this is a poor idea because it makes whispers and private conversations in general impossible. "The first thing I would like to see is a list of public works projects and allow people to participate in building them." - Another problem taken care of by an address system. "I found it nice to have someone show me how to build. It's a lot of fun teaching people how to build in a new world." - I agree. There could even be a program condoning building teachers. "I love AW. I hate paying money.That's a simple fact. Your world could change that for me. I believe that you should wipe all tourist landforms, and start A!!CT as a public building area again. It sounded wonderful and too good to be true when I first came to A!!CT... I haven't build anything or even talked to anybody yet, but I can tell you, I'll constantly be there if you keep it a public building area. Thank you for your time, Steven Hidy, raysoftcorp at hotmail.com " I still think that its best if ALL builds are wiped, and people who want to keep their builds back it up with a bot, and put it in some other world unless it is small enough. "From Derrick (351334) Hi. Im Derrick (351334). I think number 3 is the best. It has endless possiblities with it. For one, it will attrack many tourist because, simply, Mutation is getting boring, AD&DRPG is gone, and AWRPG limits only to citizen members. You could make up a totally new RPG too. One that could be placed in the future, not the same old slay a dragon, save a princess, kill a troll stuff. Or you could have an economic/build a life RPG. This would be a game where we could have people build social webs, economic builds, getting jobs, or anything else. If you support my ideas, I could help A!!CT world. I could get to writing a script asap.Thank you,Derrick" I agree, an RPG in the future is a good idea. The typical RPG set in midieval times is not only already there many in many worlds, but it frankly is boring and less open ended. Some kind of RPG where your NOT going around killing and fighting, but actually doing something NEW is what I've always wanted to do, especially if it is extremly open-ended. "Hello Mr. Bruce. I have been a long time citizen of A!!CT, I would prefer proposal #2. I was activity and event planner once, but no one seemed interested. I worked my ass of on that Halloween party last year, and the Easter scavenger hunt got even less people in. I didn't get to finish the Christmas world because it got turned into A!!CT2, before the scavenger hunt started. I would love to still be an active participant in A!!CT. It's the only reason I finally got a citizenship. If you decide to get rid of A!!CT all together I guess that's what has to be done. Let me know if I can be of any service to you in the near future. Kimdelee Proud citizen of A!!CT!! " I think that the events, no matter how good, only bring short appeal. What we need is a public world with services and such which make it more attractive than any other. "My first choice would be: PROPOSAL #4 We can make A!!CT a multi game world, containing multi bot controled games as well as a role playing game, as the world size can accomedate these possabilities and with open build no longer allowed, we can then disable fly and pass-thru. Second choice: PROPOSAL #3 We are considering wiping A!!CT and rebuilding as a new role playing world and no longer allowing open building. We can make this an adult role playing world forbiding minors, or direct this towards the younger crowd in AW. but for a younger crowd. -Mayor Taz" I think that either of these would be great, but a new public build world would be great too. "Dear Mr.Bruce Sorry to read that all. But You have absolutely right. Something must be done. Your best proposal I think is this one. PROPOSAL #3 We are considering wiping A!!CT and rebuilding as a new role playing world and no longer allowing open building. We can make this an adult role playing world forbiding minors.And observe that I have cut the sentence after forbiding minors. Yes make it a world for adult people which are taking roleplaying serious. I would prefer a mediaval world. An old Kingdom with King and Queen, fools, knights, ladyes, bards, and common people with occupations- fishermen, woodcutters, pawns, merchant and carpenters etc. I know that this is both funny and a big learningsituation. I have been a leader of such a play in many years in RL. OldHand is the councelor for the King there. In AW are the most interesting place just now AWRPG (Dreada). I have been there a lot but have left because of the bad atmosphere in the gameplay and the leadership.The socalled "Gods" are listening to everything and punish by flaming and killing and sending moral sentences when one not behave religios eneugh. And the security=0. I dont like to recieve consolemessages of an offending charakter refering to private things not in connection with the gameplay.And the gameplay in itself are stupid. Polishing crystals, collecting points and bones and so on. Therefore not such an atmosphere in a new RPG. But what made it very difficult to leave Dreada was the beautyful graphic- the realistic miljeu- people can not fly but must walk- the talk shall be in mediaval style and not "kewl to c u" and such things. That is worth observing. The gameplay then in a new RPG ? In fact it is gameplay eneugh just to build up a mediaval court with a Kingdom around and then let the intrigues develop in an historical development in the play. Is the miljeu realistic and are it only open for real roleplayers then it will develop.Can I be of any help with something let me know Sincerely Yours OldHand" I 100% disagree with everything here. I think that there are too many midieval RPGs already. They are boring, tedious, and all the same. I think that forbidding minors from A!!CT would go against everything A!!CT is. First off, A!!CT has always been a world for EVERYONE, where EVERYONE can do what they want (pretty much all of it too). Making it a world for adults only would not only decrease the number of users, but it would permanent stain A!!CT. Second off, personally I think that restricting people based on age (which one cannot help, and means almost nothing) and not what they know (which is the true indicator of things) is an awful thing. Being a minor myself, I would feel wronged if my favorite world would not let me in because of who I am. I honestly disagree with you about AWRPG too. The gameplay is tedious, and its midieval, but I would say that the poor terrain ruins the visual appearance. I think it is an enjoyable RPG, but it needs improvement. I think the restricted speech is bad. The only RPG that would fit with my idea of A!!CT would be an almost completely open-ended RPG which is completely original in almost every way. I also disagree that minors don't take roleplaying seriously because they are minors. If you really wanted serious players, you would make it so players could only join if they were serious. Using age as a basis for the seriousness of a player is not logical. People are individuals, and you honestly can't say who they are because of their age. [View Quote] I am deleting the Bowen post for language. If you want to continue the discussion please respect the forum? Thanks EJun 30, 2003, 2:16pm
I don't agree. I don't have complaints about Enzo, but I think that various
programs (Example: GKs and PKs) need to be drastically improved, because for the most part the GKs and PKs either don't do their job well enough or at all intentionally, or they are not ABLE to do their job well enough or at all. There need to be better evaluations and also better tools for the program. I suppose AW might do a lot for their customers (make new versions of the program, etc.) but I think that they should do a little more, and if they can't do a little more, they should divert a little effort to do a little more. If someone has a service with all the best features and everything, but it has poor help and support, it won't sell well or they will get complaints. I'll give you a few examples if you want. [View Quote] I am deleting the Bowen post for language. If you want to continue the discussion please respect the forum? Thanks EJun 30, 2003, 2:17pm
Agreed 70%. ENZO could however drive that person running the program to do a
better job, or get a new person who does a better job to run the program. [View Quote] I am deleting the Bowen post for language. If you want to continue the discussion please respect the forum? Thanks EJun 30, 2003, 2:18pm
I am deleting the Bowen post for language. If you want to continue the discussion please respect the forum? Thanks EJun 30, 2003, 2:28pm
ENZO is responible for all AW endorsed programs such as GKs and PKs. It is
his job to keep his company in line, even if he has to babysit people in it or get someone to do it for him. It is not his job to monitor worlds and programs which his company technically DOES NOT own, which are non-AWI worlds and programs. Strike was making an understatement, but he meant to imply that there were very few employees. I don't mean to be nasty... but if your going to post your points in such a nasty way, please do not post them. [View Quote] I am deleting the Bowen post for language. If you want to continue the discussion please respect the forum? Thanks EJun 30, 2003, 2:41pm
"As far as my response, I am not in charge of the GKs nor do I (or anyone at
AW) have control over actions. They are a group of responsible adults who enjoy AW and work within the community to help others. I am very thankful that there are people like the GKs who are willing to freely volunteer to help others. Without their efforts the Gate wouldn't be anywhere near as fun or welcoming a place as it is. My hat's off to them." I disagree. You sponsor them with rights, so you should have to control some of their actions. If you give someone a gun and tell them to kill people who swear with it, you CAN and WILL be considered responsible. As far I know, only a few GKs are actually responsible people at all. Some of the ones who aren't so responsible are nice and might just give small advantages to their friends. A number of GKs however, are not like this. Sure, they keep the gate relatively calmer, but they also give exceptions to friends and other GKs, as well as eject without reason or just out of dislike for another person, or even just as a game. They say nasty things and are sometimes cruel, and make the gate unpleasant for a number of people. They lie too, and once I heard a GK tell a first time tourist to press Alt + F4 (not that I haven't told someone to press Alt + F4 >:-P). Nicely said though, and I agree that if there were no GKs the gate would be very unruly and make AW unappealing to new users. "If there was a complaint lodged with any of those email addresses I posted the GKs are aware of the incident and I am sure they will handle it." Sometimes. Alarmingly less lately though. "It IS our responsibility to monitor this NG for language. The post that got deleted was removed for that reason." I agree, and you had full right to delete the post if it was inapropriate (I didn't see it). [View Quote] I am deleting the Bowen post for language. If you want to continue the discussion please respect the forum? Thanks EJun 30, 2003, 2:42pm
I am deleting the Bowen post for language. If you want to continue the discussion please respect the forum? Thanks EJun 30, 2003, 2:45pm
Friend chicken is bad for you >:-P
It makes you fat, clogs your arterys, and even gives you cancer. Oh well, *goes and munches on a fried chicken leg* [View Quote] I am deleting the Bowen post for language. If you want to continue the discussion please respect the forum? Thanks EJun 30, 2003, 2:47pm
Most restaurants all over the world do not use safe procedures (hand washing
after bathrooms, gloves, proper refridgeration, etc.). Fast food places happen to be better at following these guidelines, so he has no reason to be grossed out. [View Quote] I am deleting the Bowen post for language. If you want to continue the discussion please respect the forum? Thanks EJun 30, 2003, 2:48pm
didn't think about that, heh heh heh.
[View Quote] I am deleting the Bowen post for language. If you want to continue the discussion please respect the forum? Thanks EJun 30, 2003, 2:49pm
AW PictureJun 30, 2003, 1:20pm
Yup, the designer might have thought it looked better that way, was more
stylish, or something else. [View Quote] A!!CT's Proposal results so farJun 30, 2003, 11:56pm
And to re-state my ideas:
I personally think an RPG or a game world with one would be awesome. I would love it if I could help. You DEFINATELY should wipe the world and start over, but be sure to keep a BACKUP of it so if you wanted to, you could restore things like the GZ. I am up for helping in any way possible, and if it becomes an RPG I definiately want to help. I have always wanted to build an RPG, but I never have had the resources or proper organization, resources, and planning to do so, and I'm sure that A!!CT would be a prime world for an RPG. Also, if you wiped A!!CT and then reorganised it, keeping it a public build world, that would be great too. What happened last time is that build rights were given before the world was organized in any way. This is what caused A!!CT to become a mess. I honestly think that the GZ in A!!CT is nice, and should be kept if possible, but I also think that a new, less cluttered, smaller GZ would be good too. I would love to help organise this if its what you do. I do however, do not think proposal 1 is a good idea. We want to encourage tourist building, not the opposite. I have a great idea for how you could keep tourist builds in shape, and I assure you that it won't be ludicrously hard to carry out. I also have an idea of how to make it more difficult to delete tourist builds. In fact, I will respond to other people's ideas. " Hi Mr Bruce,I have just read your writings about A!!ct world and its possible future with several alternatives. I will think about what you have written and certainly get back to you with my opinion or possible solutions.... You will probably remember the names Silverlinerv, MmeOdiles and Lord Denzel.... Yes, we are three in a family that really enjoy A!!ct. I rarely go to any of the other worlds, so I feel totally concerned about A!!ct's future...I will get back to you by email but for now it is late and I need to get offline. One of the A!!ct citizens" Nothing really to respond to. "Bluelaser5000: we need 2 swear to all of aw nothing bad will ever happen in A!!CT again that will make ppl hate it. Bluelaser5000: and wipe world and start over, Bluelaser5000: like promise in a newsgroup or maybe the message when u enter aw if aw would agree " I agree, we should try extra hard to keep A!!CT from being scorned by anyone. Definately any of those plans (excluding 1) would require some form of world wiping, thats a given. "MrBruce, About 5 years ago, I used to frequent this world called GinEric. After building several nice areas, I found the world crashed and my buildings were lost. As a result I lost interest and now I have come back to show my seven year old daughter a fun 3-D place. This is how I found A!!CT as a new tourist. Here are my comments to the proposals: >PROPOSAL #3 We are considering wiping A!!CT and rebuilding as a new role playing world and no longer allowing open building. We can make this an adult role playing world forbiding minors, or direct this towards the younger crowd in AW. I find role playing worlds end up being too violent for my liking. Least interesting to me. I am a Dad that will be playing AW with my kids. >PROPOSAL #4 We can make A!!CT a multi game world, containing multi bot controled games as well as a role playing game, as the world size can accomedate these possabilities and with open build no longer allowed, we can then disable fly and pass-thru. Not interesting to me. ditto >PROPOSAL #1 We are considering a complete wipe of all citizen #0 builds which will clean A!!CT of all Tourist builds, which in all probability are already half destroyed, altered or deleted and just taking up space. Not a bad idea sometime. I would consider choosing between #1 and #2 PROPOSAL #2 We are considering wiping A!!CT world all together and starting over again with a whole new world, citzens will be left with the option of saving their builds with a bot. This is probably the best proposal, but it still does not address how to find new land to build upon. When visiting, I found it very difficult to find building space. It may be useful to limit the amount of building space to members to a certain amount of square meters, and the amount of building space to visitors to a much smaller amount of space. I also would like to suggest that there is a need for a bot that would find a homestead for new visitors so that one can find land. Another way to fairly distribute land is to wipe out builds of tourists that have aged. Land that is being built upon needs to be close to other people. As the world grows, the people continue with urban sprawl and build further and further away from the GZ. So what happens is that people are no longer talking to each other because they are further and further away from the rest of the people. It's now easy to see that there are four things that are much needed. 1) Need a theme that makes A!!CT a fun place to meet. How about a modern city 2) Need infrastructure that is provided by the world such as roads and a good public transportation system that connects all parts of the world back to GZ. I would suggest some sort of a rail or people mover line that lets people see the country side while being transported to their new location. 3) Need plenty of meeting places where people can hold conversations. For example, I found Kaitlyn's pool to be a big draw in one of the Gineric worlds. See http://www.geocities.com/kaitlynr. A disco works well also. I am playing with one at 129W 129N. But I have seen much better. The first thing I would like to see is a list of public works projects and allow people to participate in building them. I would expect many of these to be near GZ and immediately connected by the transportation system. 4) I found it nice to have someone show me how to build. It's a lot of fun teaching people how to build in a new world. Konrad Roeder North Bend, WA Age: 46Tourist name:NumberToo or NumberTwo " A lot of nice points. I agree that a road system is 100% neccesary. Not only to connect the world, but to organize it and prevent over claiming. You could have an address for everything (example: NEBlock15) or even streets and street addresses. I think a railroad system is not a good idea, because it would not be able to reach every build in every part of the world. It just won't work. Also with the addresses you could have a directory which would list free land, and in fact possibly even claim the land inside and require someone to ASK for the land, which would solve the problem of over claiming. I'm not sure about a theme though. A world theme would make building boring. A GZ theme however would be a nice idea. Actually, if the road structure and such had a theme it would be good. Chatting across the world can be solved with 3.4. All you have to do is hide chat, and have what people say repeated in a console message by a bot. This way, no matter where you are in the world, you could chat. HOWEVER, this is a poor idea because it makes whispers and private conversations in general impossible. "The first thing I would like to see is a list of public works projects and allow people to participate in building them." - Another problem taken care of by an address system. "I found it nice to have someone show me how to build. It's a lot of fun teaching people how to build in a new world." - I agree. There could even be a program condoning building teachers. "I love AW. I hate paying money.That's a simple fact. Your world could change that for me. I believe that you should wipe all tourist landforms, and start A!!CT as a public building area again. It sounded wonderful and too good to be true when I first came to A!!CT... I haven't build anything or even talked to anybody yet, but I can tell you, I'll constantly be there if you keep it a public building area. Thank you for your time, Steven Hidy, raysoftcorp at hotmail.com " I still think that its best if ALL builds are wiped, and people who want to keep their builds back it up with a bot, and put it in some other world unless it is small enough. "From Derrick (351334) Hi. Im Derrick (351334). I think number 3 is the best. It has endless possiblities with it. For one, it will attrack many tourist because, simply, Mutation is getting boring, AD&DRPG is gone, and AWRPG limits only to citizen members. You could make up a totally new RPG too. One that could be placed in the future, not the same old slay a dragon, save a princess, kill a troll stuff. Or you could have an economic/build a life RPG. This would be a game where we could have people build social webs, economic builds, getting jobs, or anything else. If you support my ideas, I could help A!!CT world. I could get to writing a script asap.Thank you,Derrick" I agree, an RPG in the future is a good idea. The typical RPG set in midieval times is not only already there many in many worlds, but it frankly is boring and less open ended. Some kind of RPG where your NOT going around killing and fighting, but actually doing something NEW is what I've always wanted to do, especially if it is extremly open-ended. "Hello Mr. Bruce. I have been a long time citizen of A!!CT, I would prefer proposal #2. I was activity and event planner once, but no one seemed interested. I worked my ass of on that Halloween party last year, and the Easter scavenger hunt got even less people in. I didn't get to finish the Christmas world because it got turned into A!!CT2, before the scavenger hunt started. I would love to still be an active participant in A!!CT. It's the only reason I finally got a citizenship. If you decide to get rid of A!!CT all together I guess that's what has to be done. Let me know if I can be of any service to you in the near future. Kimdelee Proud citizen of A!!CT!! " I think that the events, no matter how good, only bring short appeal. What we need is a public world with services and such which make it more attractive than any other. "My first choice would be: PROPOSAL #4 We can make A!!CT a multi game world, containing multi bot controled games as well as a role playing game, as the world size can accomedate these possabilities and with open build no longer allowed, we can then disable fly and pass-thru. Second choice: PROPOSAL #3 We are considering wiping A!!CT and rebuilding as a new role playing world and no longer allowing open building. We can make this an adult role playing world forbiding minors, or direct this towards the younger crowd in AW. but for a younger crowd. -Mayor Taz" I think that either of these would be great, but a new public build world would be great too. "Dear Mr.Bruce Sorry to read that all. But You have absolutely right. Something must be done. Your best proposal I think is this one. PROPOSAL #3 We are considering wiping A!!CT and rebuilding as a new role playing world and no longer allowing open building. We can make this an adult role playing world forbiding minors.And observe that I have cut the sentence after forbiding minors. Yes make it a world for adult people which are taking roleplaying serious. I would prefer a mediaval world. An old Kingdom with King and Queen, fools, knights, ladyes, bards, and common people with occupations- fishermen, woodcutters, pawns, merchant and carpenters etc. I know that this is both funny and a big learningsituation. I have been a leader of such a play in many years in RL. OldHand is the councelor for the King there. In AW are the most interesting place just now AWRPG (Dreada). I have been there a lot but have left because of the bad atmosphere in the gameplay and the leadership.The socalled "Gods" are listening to everything and punish by flaming and killing and sending moral sentences when one not behave religios eneugh. And the security=0. I dont like to recieve consolemessages of an offending charakter refering to private things not in connection with the gameplay.And the gameplay in itself are stupid. Polishing crystals, collecting points and bones and so on. Therefore not such an atmosphere in a new RPG. But what made it very difficult to leave Dreada was the beautyful graphic- the realistic miljeu- people can not fly but must walk- the talk shall be in mediaval style and not "kewl to c u" and such things. That is worth observing. The gameplay then in a new RPG ? In fact it is gameplay eneugh just to build up a mediaval court with a Kingdom around and then let the intrigues develop in an historical development in the play. Is the miljeu realistic and are it only open for real roleplayers then it will develop.Can I be of any help with something let me know Sincerely Yours OldHand" I 100% disagree with everything here. I think that there are too many midieval RPGs already. They are boring, tedious, and all the same. I think that forbidding minors from A!!CT would go against everything A!!CT is. First off, A!!CT has always been a world for EVERYONE, where EVERYONE can do what they want (pretty much all of it too). Making it a world for adults only would not only decrease the number of users, but it would permanent stain A!!CT. Second off, personally I think that restricting people based on age (which one cannot help, and means almost nothing) and not what they know (which is the true indicator of things) is an awful thing. Being a minor myself, I would feel wronged if my favorite world would not let me in because of who I am. I honestly disagree with you about AWRPG too. The gameplay is tedious, and its midieval, but I would say that the poor terrain ruins the visual appearance. I think it is an enjoyable RPG, but it needs improvement. I think the restricted speech is bad. The only RPG that would fit with my idea of A!!CT would be an almost completely open-ended RPG which is completely original in almost every way. I also disagree that minors don't take roleplaying seriously because they are minors. If you really wanted serious players, you would make it so players could only join if they were serious. Using age as a basis for the seriousness of a player is not logical. People are individuals, and you honestly can't say who they are because of their age. -.Duo. [View Quote] they crossed the line.Jun 30, 2003, 12:57pm
I agree 100%. They should hire GKs on skill and not what's in that silly
form. They have to at least monitor their GKs a bit. I remember when I was applying to be a GZ monitor in A!!CT, I was assigned to monitor the GZ and the jobs I did for some time were MONITORED to see if they were good. They based whether you were made a permanent GZ monitor or not on that, and nothing else. Thats how GKs should be evaluated. They also need to re-evaluate all the current GKs, because honestly... there are some REALLY bad ones. One way is that if they would loosen up the age restriction there would be more people to choose from. I know plenty of people who fit the job better than the ones currently there, and not most (but a lot) of them are not adults. [View Quote] they crossed the line.Jun 30, 2003, 1:01pm
No, the GK force really is horrible. Not to say that there aren't a few
superb GKs, but most of them are horrible. [View Quote] they crossed the line.Jun 30, 2003, 1:03pm
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------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C33EF6.960CE410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: they crossed the line.If I could look through my logs and find = everytime a GK was this bad or worse to me or others, I would post it. = Its happened to be at least 15 times, if not more than 40 times. [View Quote] here is the log: Immigration Officer: Welcome to the AWGate. Much of the content in = Active Worlds is user generated & may not be appropriate for all users. = Setting your browser rating level can improve your enjoyment of AW by = reducing your exposure to offensive content. Enjoy your stay :) [Customs Aide]: Welcome, IggyTheAlleayCat. For the Conduct = Guidelines please say World Rules or see = http://www.activeworlds.com/community/conduct.asp [Customs Aide]: Welcome, IggyTheAlleayCat. For the Conduct = Guidelines please say World Rules or see = http://www.activeworlds.com/community/conduct.asp Bowen: instead of those that want to cause problems, like pay off = tabacco and oil industries Amunition121: hi ppl "Minoataur78": nah, tallahasee "LeglizHemp": hi 121 Moron.: hi Amnu Moron.: <---missed again...grrrrr "Vermin2": No, that Jew Russian Lenin who led the Bolshivick = revolution. Tigger GK: Hi amun Nevik: Better idea is , if they want to make a law, let em pay for = it out of their OWN pocket "LeglizHemp": john lennon was a russian? Moron.: lol Leg 000: 1918 lenin Bowen: yeah I like that idea Nevik ;) "Weird": Tigger IggyTheAlleayCat: no leglized only commnist "Vermin2": Kinda funny huh, I bet you didn't know Hitler was half = jew either. Bowen: but then it has to be approved by the public ;) "LeglizHemp": darn and i always thought he was from liverpool Bowen: who didn't know Hitler was jewish? "Weird": Are you an experienced builder IggyTheAlleayCat: tigger now you allow a nazi chat ?! 000: no he was a chirstian Bowen: it's fine, it's certainly within G limits iggy "Weird": what do i type in the action box to make when I click on = the object, the midi stops playing, click on it again, it starts playing = again? "LeglizHemp": nazi are easy to tease Moron.: lol "Vermin2": No he was a fool who attached onto an idea. "Kevin": GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!! IggyTheAlleayCat: vermin quit that ok take it to aw debate "Weird": Can you help me tigger Julionna K: *looks to Kevi and sees him growling and giggles* "Vermin2": And people followed him because they were weak of mind = and soul. Moron.: lol Juli IggyTheAlleayCat: vermin cut that "LeglizHemp": i am weak of mind....lead me......LOL "Weird": what do i type in the action box to make when I click on = an object with a midi, the midi stops playing, click on it again, it = starts playing again? Moron.: <--weak of mind....lol "Vermin2": I appologize, I love being, my own man. Julionna K: hehe "Weird": TIGGER! what do i type in the action box to make when I = click on an object with a midi, the midi stops playing, click on it = again, it starts playing again? "LeglizHemp": my head sounds like a spray paint can when i shake it "Vermin2": But then? NuttyRedHead: hello everyone :) Moron.: <---listening to leg's Head.......... Julionna K: *mutes herself* Julionna K: oppppps "LeglizHemp": LOL Moron.: hi Nutty IggyTheAlleayCat: (to "Vermin2") vermin,all my moms family got to = the ovens but her parnts and two aunts please cut it "Weird": darn NuttyRedHead: hiya Tigger and Moron :) Julionna K: hello NRH "Vermin2": I refuse to loose my Constitutional right just because = some beaurocrat says so. NuttyRedHead: hi Julionna :) IggyTheAlleayCat: thank you vermin Moron.: at least you have somthing in there Leg.....lol "LeglizHemp": bummer tigger you missing great tune right now IggyTheAlleayCat: when you log to AW you have no continutional = right you have guidelines Nevik: Mornin Nutty, Nutty? = ............{{{{{{{{{{{{{Nutski}}}}}}}}}}} :} "LeglizHemp": floyd........echos "Vermin2": Iggy, you have a mandate to stand up. "LeglizHemp": awesum Onexpresso: gee those nose landings Onexpresso: hello Iggy NuttyRedHead: hehehe (((((((((Nev))))))))))) Moron.: wb One 000: yeh bill of right onlt apply to gov Nevik: Hi One :} "Vermin2": I want my rights back. Onexpresso: Greetings Honorable Tigger 000: sould be a corp bill of rights Julionna K: *ventures off and goes waundering about* Moron.: <--of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the = most.......sigh "LeglizHemp": i think there should be a moron bill of = rights....what do u think moron? "Kevin": Yikes Nevik: Bill of rights? hes retired , but Hillary is still around "Vermin2": Send the message through the land, but not Washington. "Kevin": *Hides* Moron.: <---agrees with Leg NuttyRedHead: (((((((Kevin)))))))) Moron.: dont go to far Juli.......lol "LeglizHemp": we have the right to be stupid and oblivious "Kevin": ((((((((((((((NRH)))))))))))))) Onexpresso: Hello Red Onexpresso: hugs 2u NuttyRedHead: hiya Onex :) "Vermin2": Them willy wakers that set on tall chairs. Moron.: 3 cheers for Leg Nevik: Time ta go ta work.... later all :} Julionna K: *leaps into the water and swims across* Moron.: later Nevik NuttyRedHead: Tigger, has Mr Barton been in yet thismorning? Nevik: adidas, Hostile ole banana "LeglizHemp": lol moron we should work on that bill of rights = sometime.......lol Moron.: <--hasnt seen him Nutty NuttyRedHead: have a good one Nev ;) NuttyRedHead: ok, thank you Moron and Tigger :) "Vermin2": Now cool it down. Moron.: yes we should Leg.....lol Moron.: <---looking for pencil.......... Moron.: nite Tigger NuttyRedHead: take care Tigger :) Moron.: you ok Juli?? "Vermin2": We need time to read the CONSTITUTION. "LeglizHemp": nite tigger....don't bend your tail IggyTheAlleayCat: those GK's made a sport from ejecting me even = when ppl stalk me I am the one thtat get ejected :/ "Kevin": LOL "LeglizHemp": lol Moron.: you sure, the Ackkk sounded bad.....lol "Vermin2": Do you think you can do it? "LeglizHemp": or both tigs? Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from awgate > You sound like a toublemaker to me....post the chat please...:) = Sorry to=20 > rush to judgement....but i do have a sense for these things...:) >=20 > Leo :) >=20 >=20 >=20 [View Quote] ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C33EF6.960CE410 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Re: they crossed the line.</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If I could look through my logs and = find everytime=20 a GK was this bad or worse to me or others, I would post it. Its = happened to be=20 at least 15 times, if not more than 40 times.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV>"iggythealleycat" <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:arnoldlayn2005 at hotmail.com">arnoldlayn2005 at hotmail.com</A>= >=20 [View Quote] exposure to offensive content. Enjoy your stay :)<BR>[Customs Aide]:=20 Welcome, IggyTheAlleayCat. For the Conduct = Guidelines=20 please say World Rules or see=20 http://www.activeworlds.com/community/conduct.asp<BR>[Customs Aide]:=20 Welcome, IggyTheAlleayCat. For the Conduct = Guidelines=20 please say World Rules or see=20 http://www.activeworlds.com/community/conduct.asp<BR>Bowen:=20 instead of those that want to cause problems, like = pay off=20 tabacco and oil industries<BR>Amunition121: hi=20 ppl<BR>"Minoataur78": nah, = tallahasee<BR>"LeglizHemp":=20 hi 121<BR>Moron.: hi = Amnu<BR>Moron.:=20 <---missed again...grrrrr<BR><B>"Vermin2":=20 No, that Jew Russian Lenin who led the Bolshivick=20 revolution.<BR>Tigger GK: Hi amun<BR></B>Nevik:=20 Better idea is , if they want to make a law, let em = pay for=20 it out of their OWN pocket<BR>"LeglizHemp": john = lennon was=20 a russian?<BR>Moron.: lol Leg<BR>000: = 1918=20 lenin<BR>Bowen: yeah I like that idea Nevik = ;)<BR>"Weird":=20 Tigger<BR><B>IggyTheAlleayCat: no = leglized=20 only commnist<BR>"Vermin2": Kinda funny huh, I bet = you=20 didn't know Hitler was half jew either.<BR></B>Bowen: = but=20 then it has to be approved by the public ;)<BR>"LeglizHemp":=20 darn and i always thought he was from = liverpool<BR>Bowen:=20 who didn't know Hitler was jewish?<BR>"Weird":=20 Are you an experienced = builder<BR><B>IggyTheAlleayCat:=20 tigger now you allow a nazi chat ?!<BR></B>000:=20 no he was a chirstian<BR>Bowen: = it's fine,=20 it's certainly within G limits iggy<BR>"Weird": what = do i=20 type in the action box to make when I click on the object, the midi = stops=20 playing, click on it again, it starts playing again?<BR>"LeglizHemp":=20 nazi are easy to tease<BR>Moron.:=20 lol<BR><B>"Vermin2": No he was a = fool who=20 attached onto an idea.<BR></B>"Kevin":=20 GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!<BR><B>IggyTheAlleayCat:=20 vermin quit that ok take it to aw = debate<BR></B>"Weird":=20 Can you help me tigger<BR>Julionna K:=20 *looks to Kevi and sees him growling and=20 giggles*<BR><B>"Vermin2": And people followed him = because=20 they were weak of mind and soul.<BR></B>Moron.: lol=20 Juli<BR><B>IggyTheAlleayCat: vermin cut=20 that<BR></B>"LeglizHemp": i am weak of mind....lead=20 me......LOL<BR>"Weird": what do i type in the action = box to=20 make when I click on an object with a midi, the midi stops playing, = click on=20 it again, it starts playing again?<BR>Moron.: = <--weak of=20 mind....lol<BR><B>"Vermin2": I appologize, I love = being, my=20 own man.<BR></B>Julionna K: hehe<BR>"Weird":=20 TIGGER! what do i type in the action box to make = when I=20 click on an object with a midi, the midi stops playing, click on it = again, it=20 starts playing again?<BR>"LeglizHemp": my head = sounds like a=20 spray paint can when i shake it<BR><B>"Vermin2": But = then?<BR></B>NuttyRedHead: hello everyone = :)<BR>Moron.:=20 <---listening to leg's Head..........<BR>Julionna = K:=20 *mutes herself*<BR>Julionna K:=20 oppppps<BR>"LeglizHemp": = LOL<BR>Moron.:=20 hi Nutty<BR><B>IggyTheAlleayCat: = (to=20 "Vermin2") vermin,all my moms family got to the ovens but her parnts = and two=20 aunts please cut it<BR></B>"Weird": = darn<BR>NuttyRedHead:=20 hiya Tigger and Moron :)<BR>Julionna K:=20 hello NRH<BR><B>"Vermin2": I = refuse to=20 loose my Constitutional right just because some beaurocrat says=20 so.<BR></B>NuttyRedHead: hi Julionna=20 :)<BR><B>IggyTheAlleayCat: thank you=20 vermin<BR></B>Moron.: at least you have somthing in = there=20 Leg.....lol<BR>"LeglizHemp": bummer tigger you = missing great=20 tune right now<BR><B>IggyTheAlleayCat: when you log = to AW=20 you have no continutional right you have guidelines<BR></B>Nevik:=20 Mornin Nutty, Nutty?=20 ...........{{{{{{{{{{{{{Nutski}}}}}}}}}}} :}<BR>"LeglizHemp":=20 floyd........echos<BR><B>"Vermin2": = Iggy,=20 you have a mandate to stand up.<BR></B>"LeglizHemp":=20 awesum<BR>Onexpresso: gee those = nose=20 landings<BR>Onexpresso: hello Iggy<BR>NuttyRedHead:=20 hehehe = (((((((((Nev)))))))))))<BR>Moron.:=20 wb One<BR>000: yeh bill of right = onlt=20 apply to gov<BR>Nevik: Hi One :}<BR><B>"Vermin2":=20 I want my rights back.<BR></B>Onexpresso:=20 Greetings Honorable Tigger<BR>000: = sould=20 be a corp bill of rights<BR>Julionna K: *ventures = off and=20 goes waundering about*<BR>Moron.: <--of all the = things=20 i've lost, i miss my mind the most.......sigh<BR>"LeglizHemp":=20 i think there should be a moron bill of = rights....what do u=20 think moron?<BR>"Kevin": Yikes<BR>Nevik:=20 Bill of rights? hes retired , but Hillary is still=20 around<BR><B>"Vermin2": Send the message through the = land,=20 but not Washington.<BR></B>"Kevin": = *Hides*<BR>Moron.:=20 <---agrees with Leg<BR>NuttyRedHead:=20 (((((((Kevin))))))))<BR>Moron.: = dont go to=20 far Juli.......lol<BR>"LeglizHemp": we have the = right to be=20 stupid and oblivious<BR>"Kevin":=20 ((((((((((((((NRH))))))))))))))<BR>Onexpresso:=20 Hello Red<BR>Onexpresso: hugs=20 2u<BR>NuttyRedHead: hiya Onex = :)<BR><B>"Vermin2":=20 Them willy wakers that set on tall = chairs.<BR></B>Moron.:=20 3 cheers for Leg<BR>Nevik: Time ta = go ta=20 work.... later all :}<BR>Julionna K: *leaps = into the=20 water and swims across*<BR>Moron.: later=20 Nevik<BR>NuttyRedHead: Tigger, has Mr Barton been in = yet=20 thismorning?<BR>Nevik: adidas, Hostile ole=20 banana<BR>"LeglizHemp": lol moron we should work on = that=20 bill of rights sometime.......lol<BR>Moron.: = <--hasnt=20 seen him Nutty<BR>NuttyRedHead: have a good one Nev=20 ;)<BR>NuttyRedHead: ok, thank you Moron and = Tigger=20 :)<BR><B>"Vermin2": Now cool it = down.<BR></B>Moron.:=20 yes we should Leg.....lol<BR>Moron.:=20 <---looking for pencil..........<BR>Moron.:=20 nite Tigger<BR>NuttyRedHead: take = care=20 Tigger :)<BR>Moron.: you ok = Juli??<BR>"Vermin2":=20 We need time to read the = CONSTITUTION.<BR>"LeglizHemp":=20 nite tigger....don't bend your = tail<BR><B>IggyTheAlleayCat:=20 those GK's made a sport from ejecting me even when = ppl stalk=20 me I am the one thtat get ejected :/<BR></B>"Kevin":=20 LOL<BR>"LeglizHemp": = lol<BR>Moron.:=20 you sure, the Ackkk sounded = bad.....lol<BR><B>"Vermin2":=20 Do you think you can do it?<BR></B>"LeglizHemp":=20 or both tigs?<BR><B>Immigration Officer:=20 You have been ejected from = awgate<BR></B><BR><BR>> You=20 sound like a toublemaker to me....post the chat please...:) = Sorry=20 to <BR>> rush to judgement....but i do have a sense for these=20 things...:)<BR>> <BR>> Leo :)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> = <BR>>=20 [View Quote] disfunction.<BR>>> Most of them use the guidelines only to pick = on=20 people they don't like,<BR>>> While they let their friends say = and do=20 whatever they want.<BR>>> I tried to contact=20 gatekeepers at activeworlds.com and didn't got a productive<BR>>>=20 answer,<BR>>> then i contact the management which chose to pass = my=20 emails to kellie which,<BR>>> again,<BR>>> did nothing=20 productive.<BR>>> The limit was crossed when Vermin2 was = justifying=20 Hitler's deeds at the<BR>>> gate, without any respond from the=20 Gatekeeper,<BR>>> Tigger GK, who was aware enough of what's = going on to=20 eject me for saying<BR>>> the GK's made a sport from ejecting=20 me.<BR>>> I guess that Tigger's ego is far much a delicate = matter than=20 the lives of<BR>>> the millions who died in WW2.<BR>>>=20 <BR>>> P.S : I am still waiting for an answer from=20 gatekeepers at activeworlds.com and<BR>>> kellie about Tigger's = behavior=20 that day.<BR>>> <BR>> <BR>> = <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C33EF6.960CE410-- they crossed the line.Jun 30, 2003, 1:05pm
I agree, but the many of them are. AW does nothing about it. You can run
crying away from a few bad experiences. This happens to many, many different people, many, many times. Its happened to be at least 15 times, and from what I see its the same for iggy. [View Quote] they crossed the line.Jun 30, 2003, 1:16pm
I dought iggy was making trouble at the gate. You are making assumptions
without any basis, and being extremely nasty by putting smile faces there. If you can prove that there aren't a bunch of bad GKs, I'll believe you. Honestly, I'd believe iggy over you any day. First of all, you can tell iggy is upset, which wouldn't be true if it didn't happen. Second off, that chat log is legitimate because the grammar differs and everything. I think that considering that iggy probably muted the GK, it is completely legitimate. You don't prove that iggy is a troublemaker either, so I will assume you are making a false claim and not believe you on that, and from that I can discredit the rest of your post too, because it also is all false claims. Honestly, I think you have no sense for these things AT ALL. The only reason anyone would believe you is because they fear being banned or punished. [View Quote] they crossed the line.Jun 30, 2003, 2:52pm
I avoid the gate as much as possible because I don't like GKs, and I try to
stop myself from expressing myself freely, but I'm impulsive and sometimes I can say thigns before I know I'm saying them... however, you don't need to be nasty. Please don't EVER bother posting if your ALWAYS going to be nasty. You discarded the whole post because you know you couldn't prove me wrong. [View Quote] they crossed the line.Jun 30, 2003, 2:54pm
The gate is the most crowded world. Its the only place you can really find
anyone new to have a conversation with. [View Quote] they crossed the line.Jun 30, 2003, 2:57pm
You tend to be nasty, but your buddy-buddy with the GKs so they don't do
anything about it. [View Quote] they crossed the line.Jun 30, 2003, 3:00pm
Right, and the GKs should've stopped the person harrassing iggy. That's
iggy's point! Iggy probably does not harrass people or start debates, which is why he is debating HERE. Iggy said he (or she) goes there to chat, and never even said the she (or he) unsettles the atmosphere. Being ignored is no reason to eject someone! That's the worst justification I've EVER heard. Why not buck the system? If no one bucked the system, then we'd all be opressed, and there would still be all kinds of horrible things like racism and no free speech. Conforming is the worst thing you can ever do, so why don't you buck the system once in a while? The reason you refuse to believe iggy is because you know he (or she) is NOT lying, but your friends with a lot of the GKs so you don't WANT to believe about them. [View Quote] they crossed the line.Jun 30, 2003, 3:08pm
Simple. Ignorign is not against any rule, so they have NO right to eject
iggy. Simple as that. The GKs being in charge isn't a rule. AW could shut them down if they wanted, and put someone else in charge, it isn't definate. The GKs are in charge to keep order, even if they don't always do the best job. They aren't there to eject people because they dislike them. In fact I remember hearing that GKs aren't ALOUD to do anything to someone because they wronged a GK. YOU want people in charge who are corrupt and don't eject YOU because their your friends, and YOU have no feeling, understanding, or sympathy for anyone who is NOT friends with the GKs. Technically Iggy or I would probably make better GKs because we don't wrong people like that. The gate might be a little disorderly, but sometimes people feeling comfortable is more important. STOP BEING NASTY, IT HURTS PEOPLE'S FEELINGS!!! I think I've had it with your posts, if you continue beign a jerk I'll ask enzo to tell you to be nicer or delete your posts since you REFUSE to be kind. [View Quote] they crossed the line.Jun 30, 2003, 3:11pm
I'll start by saying that your post completely ignores all my points, and
that I shouldn't respond to it, but I will. All the time I'm there. Whenever someone is there while I'm chatting, I'll help them. For example, this morning a tourist needed a seed object somewhere in AWTeen. I went out of my way to make it for them. How many GKs do you know would do that? How many hours a day do GKs spend at the gate hurting people? Doing an insufficient job? Being unfair? [View Quote] they crossed the line.Jul 1, 2003, 12:04am
Once again, why should I conform? If everyone conformed and was the same,
wouldn't life be boring? I don't harass GKs, or at leasat none have told me I do. Honestly, I love being ejected :-P which is why I don't care. Don't even post if you don't back up your claims. The only reason you call my posts 'lame ass' is because they go against everything you think and actually to some degree prove what they say. You don't need to be close friends with GKs for them to be light on you. Heck, there are some GKs I'm friends with and not surprisingly most of them go easy on me. I don't need to name any GKs your friends with. You conform, never question authority, never speak up, and go with the flow. Why wouldn't a person of authority like you? [View Quote] they crossed the line.Jul 1, 2003, 12:06am
He was insulting jewish people and not only did not stop when asked, but was
just really nasty. Nastier than I. Also, there is no indication of why iggy was ejected, which is the whole point. Iggy was pointing out that someone was being semi-slanderous and not being ejected while the GK was ejecting iggy for NO apparent reason and without warning. [View Quote] they crossed the line.Jul 1, 2003, 12:08am
Which is why vermin should have been ejected, and there was no reason to
eject iggy. He (or she) spoke up against GKs and that's why he was ejected, while it is a FAR more minor thing than hinting at slandor. [View Quote] |
