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Aug 18, 2003, 7:48pm

CP, its because of stupid posts like this (among with other things) that
people hate you, Bots do have to do with Community and Worldbuilders. Lets
see. Without a community to use it; there would be no reason for the bot.
The bot also helps worldbuilders because of its many functions. Now a smart
little NG troll would take a hint and shutup, especially since XelaG and
Baron have been making bots before you were ever on AW. So just incase you
don't know the community NGs are for community related discussions,
ANNOUNCEMENTS, and other misc. community related items.

-Mod
Shadowed troll hunter ;-)

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Aug 19, 2003, 2:46pm

Riiiiiiiiiight...


(BTW I don't hate anyone, except maybe insanity ;-) )
-Mod

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Aug 20, 2003, 4:23pm

The lady just for my own personal amusement when you play pac-man do you
email the creaters saying, pacman should be a democracy, where ghosts and
pac-men work together, and it is my right to declare my independance from
the game, blah blah blah. Basically, see how stupid that sounds? Its the
same thing here, I used to just sit back and chuckle at the silly posts of
yours, but one can only chuckle so much O_O

-Mod
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Aug 21, 2003, 12:38am

MrBruce wouldn't what you are saying make you a hypocrite? Making a whole
new thread to tell people about the lady and how she doesn't listen is just
as bad as replying to her , except you made a whole new thread for
miscellaneous garbage to accumulate ;-)

-Mod

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Aug 28, 2003, 6:33pm

The answer of course if Flandango the Irish Imp, All AW money is funded by
him, Also by going to http://www.activeworlds.com/products/cancel.asp and
entering your information in there, you are automatically entered for a
chance to spend the day with Flandango!!

-Mod

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Aug 30, 2003, 11:33am

Yes we all know Joeman's password is magikal, It can't be copied and pasted,
It must be typed in by your right hand, while the other hand does a wave
type motion! DUH!

-Mod

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Sep 12, 2003, 6:22pm

Naw, I have to tell you that your whole post is wrong (Sorry Mark, but you
know its true :) )

-Mod

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Sep 12, 2003, 7:15pm

*cough* i am not looking at the executable, I am looking at the source ;-)

-Mod
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Sep 12, 2003, 7:39pm

Ummm. I'm not doing anything, I don't appreciate being accused of things in
a public manner either, strike your a good guy. but you need to learn when
to keep you mouth shut.
GoodDay :)
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Oct 19, 2003, 12:54am

I'll have to agree with strike here. A great defense in our legal system is
Intent. Without proving it, they have nothing on you :)

-Mod

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Oct 20, 2003, 8:05am

Your right, ignorance is never a defense, but ignorance doesn't even come
into question here. Ignorance would be letting the prostitute in the car to
do 'her thing' and then saying you didn't know it was illegal. So the only
remote chance they can find you guilty is if they can prove intent. That you
were meaning to pick her up for a certain reason. Now of course it is almost
impossible to do this. Even if they get the women to lie, just by your
defense that you brought a homeless person all the way to chicago, you
volunteer at a salvation army, and was just looking to help one more person
out, by offering food, you would almost definitly be aquitted right there.
So as long as you can arrange the travel, I am sure that you would even be
able to go into that hearing without a lawyer and still win. The legal
system isn't against you, they almost always give the innocent the benefit
of the doubt :)

Good luck TZ!
-Mod
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Oct 20, 2003, 5:43pm

0_0 now now now don't be hasty

-Mod
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Nov 23, 2003, 7:59pm

-_- </start sarcasm> yes and many years ago a hopefull young DarkMod was
walking through the woods was killed by a roaming monster. and lost all hope
for human kind, he decided to leave but not before dropping all his items on
the ground... </end sarcasm>

Is this the definition of people who are so stupid that they think that an
online game is real life, and terrorism actually can exist in it..

Should Blizzard offer awesome characters to people who threaten to delete
people chars, and the whole realm?????? OH god can someone please tell me
the answer!

See how stupid that post sounded when substituded with another game... One
can only wonder

Mod
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Nov 28, 2003, 11:03pm

Why the hell do you keep mentioning my name? You got your information wrong
man, I don't even come on
AW anymore. As for making a list and being slow, obviously I must be,
because I haven't even made one... Wow Strike you need to learn to let me be
in peace and not blame me for every little thing you can think of. Although
I have already gone away, you can go get a life for all that I care :)

-M
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Nov 29, 2003, 1:51pm

I didn't use AWProxy mainly. What you fail to realize that i have had that
since 3.1 and what would make me suddenly go and use it, I don't know, and a
less prominant version was given out freely by others(3.1 only, not the
3.1/3.2 version), and once john got it, I think EVERYONE got it. Mainly what
I am trying to say, although the encryption has been changed the password
encryption has not. So untill it is changed anyone who has a tiny bit of
knowledge and time, can keep making these lists =\ but then again I really
don't think it is going to be a problem, I don't think many people know how
to get the encrypted op pw to decrypt, and since that list is how old I am
almost positive they haven't figured it out.

-M
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Nov 29, 2003, 1:57pm

Well kah I always try to leave the past in the past, and would like to think
that I moved on from that, and also apologized to the world owners. The fact
is once I started making objects I realized how much work people put into
this, and although I was pushed to the breaking point by some *InSaNe*
person to post that list. I really wish it wouldn't have happened. That is
the past though...not now. I really wish that strike would leave me out of
these coversations and debates,especially when I didn't do anything :(
Either way I hope AW takes some time to change their password encryption to
solve these problems :)

-M
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Nov 30, 2003, 2:27am

When it rains it pours 0_0...

-7

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Nov 30, 2003, 8:25pm

Its all worth it for the 1 hour of entertainment we got...but then again..Mr
Bruces crazy posts are entertaining too :)

-M
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Dec 1, 2003, 1:38pm

Yes but the law applies completely differant to the internet. This is
seriously like saying, If M A T T did something illegal in ActiveWorlds, and
decided to go play Warcraft III and stayed in there Bruce could sue Blizzard
for harboring criminals. That is completely wrong. You can't harbor a
criminal online. It is impossible, Ecomencher would need to go to matts
house, take him to his house to hide, and then he would be harboring a
criminal. This claim would NEVER hold up in court.

-Mod

[View Quote] I am clearly no expert in the law. I took a course in Entertainment
Business and Law in college, which could be good or bad... however... I do
believe that an employee of the coffee shop could be considered an accessory
to that crime if they had prior knowledge of the possibility of a crime or
if they continued to serve the customer while knowing he/she was the
shooter. (Anyone have some good links on criminal law? ;-) So do not
discard mrbruce's accusations quite so quickly. I believe he is basing his
claim on one of those two cases. Either a representative of Spiral Matrix
knew of the crimes beforehand or permitted the guilty party to continue
using the SM service despite the knowledge of the aforementioned crimes.

You might be quick to disregard this whole matter as it pertains to a
virtual world. Be aware that violations of end-user license agreements of
software can be punishable by real-world criminal law. While a quick read
through the ActiveWorlds EULA might help... I'm going to run off of memory
and common sense: Tampering with or otherwise abusing licensed software to
the extent of causing diminished quality of service for other licensees and
obtaining unauthorized account access through fraud or theft are most likely
violations of the EULA "signed" by all users of the ActiveWorlds
technologies, whether they be through the primary AW universe or even Spiral
Matrix. Of the parties in question, it is unclear to me (a reasonably
informed third party of sound mind) that any one is guilty of the violations
mentioned above. Yes, it is reported that citizenship accounts were stolen.
Yes, worlds have been taken offline via DoS or other security holes. But I
fail to see any evidence to suspect any of these parties specifically.

However, M a t t did admit to email-bombing mrbruce, among other targets, if
the chat log posted by mrbruce can be verified. NOTE: mrbruce's attempts to
obscure the source of the chat log do give me pause when accepting its
validity at face value. Never the less, email-bombing, along with spam and
other abuse of email technologies, may not be considered illegal as of yet
(that is, pending laws introduced by the FTC), they are very much grounds
for cancellation of Internet access and privilages by most ISPs.

----

(If you are skimming this post, please take the time to read this section.)

What is very disturbing to me is the presence of what may very well be
tantamount to death threats. These should not be taken lightly by any
means. Those of you who may be guilty of such a crime, take pause.
Consider your words as powerful and as binding as the action. You can be
assured that criminal law makes little distinction between the two. People
are still people even if your only contact may be through an email or
newsreader client.

----

In summary, I see a lot of people arguing. I see a lot of hate. I see the
anti-Internet. I always felt that the Internet was about community with
people around the world. True, it has become a great target for commerce
and debauchery (ooh... did I spell that one right?); but at the heart of it
remains the chat rooms, the video games and the virtual communities that
draw together people who might never meet each other by other means. Let us
not tear down what has brought so much good.

The most I would ask any of the parties involved in this dispute is to
extend a hand of future friendship and nothing more. There is no reason
that everything will be fixed in the morning or any pretending that this
never happened, but you cannot begin to come together and resolve the issue
if your backs are turned to each other. Forgiveness is something that I
feel is too infrequently taught and even less often used. So, please, take
this disagreement off of the newsgroups and apologize to each other in
private. Take a vacation from ActiveWorlds if you feel you need time to
heal. The rest of us will be glad to welcome you back to this "digital
fellowship."

P.S. Hugs are optional. ;-)
P.P.S. Typos are unintentional. :-P
P.P.P.S. Moose bites can be pretty nasty.


-- Serac

Dec 1, 2003, 3:25pm

I believe he just doesn't like getting brought into something he has nothing
to do with, he like you paid a lot of money, and more for his universe, and
doesn't want to be involved with the problems of AW. He loves his community,
and cares for them. When people threaten to sue him for defending his
community and himself against such posts (not from you) saying that his
universe is cracked and illegal, he gets upset. I am sure anyone would, I
know I would. I just wouldn't think too much into this and just let it go,
no need to keep these flames going, no matter how fun they are to read :D
Because no one has a lawsuit against anyone here, except MAYBE against Matt,
so just let it go :)

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Dec 1, 2003, 5:23pm

Thats why the last post was my opinion on why both of you are going was to
far into this, and both are just not meeting up with what each of you MEANT
to say, so think carefully before you flame me, I'm just trying to tell you
the truth :)

-M
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Dec 28, 2003, 3:08pm

Silly Rabbit A!!CT isn't closed, its just invisible..

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Dec 28, 2003, 3:11pm

errrrm just ignore that post :P

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Dec 30, 2003, 1:55am

That made me chuckle...the hitler and stalin of aw...heh. "I bet you'll be a
hacker soon, your learning Vb 6.0"

....LoL

Funny stuff
Mod
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Dec 30, 2003, 1:56am

Very nice. -_- infecting people and stealing their stuff is cool nowadays.
BTW nice imitation of me and sleepy e :)

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Dec 30, 2003, 2:01am

heh, oh ya, cause Sleepy, me and strike like to enter awesome cracked unis
such as that...at the same time too. Why not post the chat log of our
awesome little tea party we had too?

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Dec 30, 2003, 2:08am

Dude thats enough man, you infected joeman and stole his stuff...ok wow big
deal. you probably dont even know how half that stuff works...and I sure
hope to god you don't run that uni...but i'll let you figure out why ;-)

-M
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Dec 30, 2003, 2:13am

Yawn, I go on aw about once every 3 months lol, and i wont get disabled
sorry to tell you :)

Anyways thanks for the good chuckle
-Gooday
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Dec 30, 2003, 4:24am

*sigh* Don't get the file, (as if you didnt know) some people are so stupid.
That is just a packed file, that will install matts trojan. This will shut
down your virus scan, and act when your comp starts up in attempt to flash
your bios. Can't do any better matt? :P

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Dec 30, 2003, 4:52am

I managed to obtain that lamer's cell phone number.

(570) 449-2230

Call him up and tell him what you really think. Let's have some fun with the
dumbass.

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