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Dec 26, 2001, 5:36pm

Is anyone at aw.com going to migrate the "official" webring to the new
system? Or was it going to be allowed to die off? There is an
activeworlds ring at webring.org now, but they have 7 sites, are not run
by aw, and are not allowing any new sites.

Dec 27, 2001, 6:52pm

TY facter, I am hoping to get my new site into it.

[View Quote] > Eh, when I have time I will do it this week, I was waiting untl it settled
> down back on webring before messing with it...I still have admin on it
> *shrugs*
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Mar 20, 2002, 4:15am

I notice they also will not tell anyone the area of the new servers.

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Mar 31, 2002, 4:18pm

Ummmm a question? How does this pertain to most of the NG's you crossposted
to? It should have been put in WORLDBUILDERS and thats it!

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Mar 31, 2002, 4:29pm

And they cannot find out about it from ONE NG?
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Mar 31, 2002, 5:00pm

I still think cross posting was not nessasary in the least.

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Apr 1, 2002, 7:52am

*grins at wings* I have to agree I belive it was all blown out of proportion
as well. Barsoom has it's password, and I will be hornswaggled if I am going
to spend another 2 weeks uploading files just to change it unless I "have"
to.

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Apr 17, 2002, 2:45am

Or did the NG server go down for a bit?

Apr 18, 2002, 7:20pm

Ya know, since they moved their servers I have had more problems than I did
in the entire 2 years before they moved them!

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Apr 18, 2002, 7:15pm

As I understand it, YES they are fighting over a small strip of land.

What gets me is the nations of the world who want to push how evil Amreica
is all the time, yet they are the ones living high on the hog compared to a
large percentage of Americans. They need our help so bad, yet our people
starve in the streets.

I want a Save the American Childrens Fund!

If the world wants our help all the time, then by the Gods lets get our
nation back on track so we can do it. But to get us on track we are going to
have to stop helping every little podunk country on the planet for a few
years. And you know that aint gonna happen.

And while I am on the political subject, take these "possessions" of the US,
whose people enjoy every benifit of being a US citizen, yet pay not one cent
in taxes to keep our nation afloat. And give them a choice. Becomes states
NOW, or leave our protection. I am sick on people gettign one over on us.

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Apr 18, 2002, 7:18pm

Your thoughts mirror mine, and funny enough the movie Dogma that so many
religious leaders in America tried to get banned.

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Apr 25, 2002, 4:17am

Last I checked most of the human "race" are idiots. So I guess in that sense
it could be racial.

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Apr 25, 2002, 8:45am

I take it you are assuming that I am human? Can you prove it? LOL

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Oct 18, 2001, 8:31pm

As one who was in Gor you have my agreement on this Myssie. I always tried
to keep my Gor actions seperated from other actions I did within AW outside
of Gor worlds. I also encouraged all those who were Gor and around me to do
that same.

I finally got tired of the BS going on in Gor and left it behind me. And now
I have people (kids I suspect) comign into my world (non Gor world too, and
signs at GZ state this clearly) and almost beg to be allowed to play Gor
there. So I do share your frustrations about Gor i non-Gor places.

I do nto hold any animosity towards those who remain in Gor in AW, and some
of them are good friends to me. But those who are friends also seem to be
able to adapt to a non-Gor setting too.

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Mar 8, 2002, 3:08pm

Actually the switching around of icons is a virius. You may need to get your
drive scanned. I had that same virius hit me a while back. It don't do a
whole heck of a lot, but it is annoying.
Try here...
http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/start_pcc.asp


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Mar 10, 2002, 5:22pm

I did not tell people that AW was a virius please do nto put words in my
mouth. There is a coomon virius out there that does icon swapping as well
and since I have never run XO I had no idea AW did this under that
environment as well.

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Oct 10, 2001, 9:14pm

Well a good suggestion would be setting the NG server to auto delete any
post over two weeks old. That would clear alot of the junk out.

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Oct 10, 2001, 9:10pm

Amen. The voice of reason.


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Oct 14, 2001, 8:13pm

Aye how true, the vocal minority always tries something to appear to be a
majority.

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Oct 14, 2001, 8:09pm

And if the company that owns it has done the proper paperwork then it's
servers DO INDEED fall into the catagory of foreign nations. Read the laws
you wish to use before do you so.

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Oct 15, 2001, 8:55am

I am unsure where it is located webwise. I do know of it havign been done
before though. A couple of the ISP's in this area have done it for certain
reasons. I myself tend to try to stay out of their reasons though, as I
suspect delving into them could pose other legal problems I do not want.

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Oct 16, 2001, 7:31pm

Well happy belated BDay Andras. I take it your day was the 15th? Mine was
the 14th *EG*. Loved the presents I got too. Friends bought me world
upgrades for them.

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Dec 5, 2001, 1:20am

So we are in agreement that the term strip club is PG?

<--snippity snip snip-->
"The guidelines change. And strip club is PG.. so says the general public..
and we all happen to be in that."
<--snippers down-->

Well that gets him an eject anyway. ALL public worlds are rated G, yes thats
G, notice no P in front of that G.

Dec 27, 2001, 6:49pm

OK I just have one question for you "newbie" what world did this happen in? I
have heard of a couple of the gor worlds trying to pass themselves off as
"family" worlds, and they are the only ones I could think of that fit your
description. But now my trivia spnoge of a mind has to know the correct answer.
Why? Oh just cuZ *eyes moff piett*

[View Quote] > LoL no, damn isn't a bad word... even preachers say damn.. how bad can it
> be? I believe some children go to church.. and hear damn.. how much worse
> could it be if you say it?
>
> --Bowen--
>
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Dec 28, 2001, 3:40am

In Castles? Wow, when did they start the slavery thing up?

[View Quote] > It happened in Castles.
> dotar sojat <barsoom at my.activeworlds.com> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3C2B86A0.54617777 at my.activeworlds.com...
> in? I
> answer.
> it
> worse
> language,because
> their
> entire

Dec 30, 2001, 3:28am

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> They can try to sue, I suppose... But how will they force me to appear in court?
>

Well agent, you better look out. Bowen might send the dreaded US Marine Corpses to fetch you back for that $100 law suit.

Dec 30, 2001, 3:29am

Bowen buy a clue.

[View Quote] > May I see your Masters in law? You're only proving what's true with
> Canada's products.
>
> EULA's can only be legal if they're under accordance to the laws of the
> company to which the product that you're using is copyrighted. If you agree
> to the EULA of a company in America.. you've just agreed to follow those
> rules and America's laws in accordance to that product.. anything illegal
> you do with that product that's illegal in the country of the company, is
> punishable. That may not be the case with Canada's laws but it's true here.
> Since you're not from America, you can't specualte which laws you will
> follow while using this product.
>
> court?
>
> You can be dragged from your country as easily as you can be hunted down by
> the FBI or CIA for that matter. Just because you're in Canada doesn't mean
> you can break the laws of America while using American products or services.
>
> just as good as a paper contract now. I have heard of portions being struck
> down because they were a little bit "much", but otherwise everything in it
> is "legal".
>
> It's legal if you're writing it in accordance with American law *since it
> still is an american product* You can't just write something that violates
> laws such as "I give you the legal right to hold stolen funds in this
> account, we can't be held responsable neither can you." That's just an
> example.. I can't emphasize this enough. If it violates the laws of the
> country to which the company belongs, it's illegal. This entire debate is
> about American law, nothing else since AW is not a foreign company. I don't
> care if you're from Timbukto.. if you do not act in accordance to American
> law, you can be prosecuted to the full degree that the law allows. A EULA
> does not have the power to surpass laws. This topic has strayed to far away
> from the original topic.. :), if you don't mind I'd like to stop it now..
> it's too long LoL.
>
> --Bowen--
>
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Dec 30, 2001, 3:35am

I don't find it offensive, please don't answer for everybody unless your going
to consult everybody.

[View Quote] > some people don't have the same views as you do, and here you are saying
> that *all* people find 'the F word' offensive. That's hypocrytical.
>
> They find it offensive.. but they'll use it. I find it offensive but I
> still use it, it's meant as such a word as to be offensive hence why it's
> considered a "cuss" word. Any other representation of it is falsified and
> doesn't conform to G rated regulations. It's a sementic argument. Just
> because someone uses a word doesn't actually mean they don't find it
> offensive :). The good majority how is that? I tend to generalize on the
> English language use but I forgot to take in the fact that it's being
> blundered. Sorry for the generalization that the "F word" is offensive to
> everyone.
>
> --Bowen--

Dec 30, 2001, 5:20pm

Bowen, go ahead and try to get the US gov to send it's forces after one of these
dreaded law breakers like you suggested was possible. It ain't gonna happen.
Besides, copyright laws do not cover ANY laws other than those directly relating
to the distribution of products. You keep saying that copyright means American
laws have to be enforced upon users of any American product. Your wrong, so buy
a clue. Just about everyone who has replied to this thread has told you the real
story, and given exact example (one even quoted the laws provision) yet you
persist in your asanine assumptions. Give it up. Your wrong, their right.

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> Please don't comment unless you know the actual point. You cannot forepass
> any laws of the country to which the company registered it's product in..
> read one of the branch-off's of this post by nornny. Don't turn this into a
> personal attack either.
>
> --Bowen--

Dec 30, 2001, 5:32pm

I am also an American, and I do know the law somewhat. I also have run this past
my G/F, and my mother, both of whom work in the legal industry, my mother for 35
years. Thye both think Bowen is "blowing smoke". Copyright law does not allow
the enforcement of American laws outside of American territory. The worst that
could happen is for the owner of the copyrighted product to deny service to the
offender if they are outside of US territory.
If you are from a nation that is NOT America, and you break a US law while using
AW. The worst you can get in an eject. AW cannot prosecute you in any way.
However if you attempt to illegally distribute AW's products they can attempt to
do so. But only if they can convince the US Federal government that it is a
valid use of Federal resources.
Now before you say you want to see law degrees again. My mother heads the Oregon
Bar Legal Assistants Association, and is quite conversant in the laws as they
effect Nationwide. My G/F is also a Legal Assistant from the San Francisco area,
her specialties are copyright and paent law. I myself have no legal degree (I
studied advertising), however as an advertising agent you have to know copyright
law pretty durn good.
Speak not of what you know nothing about, or you might appear a fool.

[View Quote] > Read Nornny's post, it explains exactly what happens when you use an
> American product and violate an American law. If you use AW, think of it as
> American territory, you're responsible to follow our laws while you're using
> it. You said yourself in an earlier post that EULA's can set anything they
> want. I don't need a masters in law when I'm from the US and we're talking
> about an American product, you on the other hand do, since you don't know
> any of our laws besides what the internet tells you. Copyrights set to
> where the product belongs, if the browser is copyright in america, you're
> using that american product.
>
> Any country can impose it's laws while you're in it's territory, while using
> AW you are in American territory buddy, albeit virtual, it's still American.
> If this was a German Universe I would have to follow German laws, as would
> you. Not all countries have the same laws. Such as Canada does not have
> the same freedoms we Americans do.
>
> If you did something illegal through AW, if it was severe enough you could
> get your rear prosecuted. Canada wouldn't have much choice but to turn you
> over, credit fraud for example.. repeated offenses can get your thrown in
> jail over here.
>
> You're using AWC's browser, you're in American owned territory, American
> laws apply to you, plus Canada's.
>
> The problem is you believe you're immune from laws unless it's Canadian..
> it's pretty obvious if you're in someone else's territory, you can get
> prosecuted by the laws which they must follow as well. Yes, before you say
> AW isn't "territory" it is, it's virtual. Think of it as walking the lines
> which connect where you are in Canada to the servers in Boston, then back..
> you'd have to walk through American land right? Thus it's laws apply to you
> as well using the software. This is relative if you're really talking to an
> American or not.. but still could happen if you're not and you get caught.
>
> --Bowen--
>
> --Bowen--
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