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data21 // User Search
Jan 10, 2002, 12:21am
nope
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c3cf932$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> LoL did you give anyone your aworld.ini?
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3cf909 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> out
it
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 12:24am
Think I want that posted in here for that person to edit them lol
Will tell you when I get my cit back, lol
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c3cf5ac at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Someone knows your password. You probably gave out your aworld.ini.
E-mail
> AW tech support and give them info about your account. Where are your
> builds?
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3cf4fd at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> my
> also.
> out,
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 12:29am
Well I know I did nothing wrong to get it taken from me, and if someone
"guessed" my password (highly unlikely)
They had to be a really good hacker, my password was a random list of
numbers and letters.
[View Quote]"lanezeri" <lanezeri at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3c3cfbbb at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Don't make conclusions, that could be it but it might not be.
> "facter" <facter at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
> news:3c3cf5f1$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
out
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 2:46am
I never gave my aworld.ini to anyone.
[View Quote]"joeman" <Joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message
news:3c3d0a94$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> There were so many people asking if you gave out your aworld.ini, I didn't
> know where to post this. Ok, here it goes... Your aworld.ini holds an
> encrypted password specific to your machine. If someone else gets your
> aworld.ini, they would need to steal your machine to use it. So, as of
3.2,
> your safe :).
>
> -Joe
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3ceba3 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
out,
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 5:13pm
Help me fight for my citizenship back anyone.
AW says its owned by a world and the owner puled it back.
I have no idea how that happened. I cant get in AW, so someone please help
me out in there.
I got that citizenship back in Feb. 2000.
here is the history of how it came to be mine.
I won it in a tourist building contest that took place in the world named
Armor
BlueMax55 is who gave it to me because I won 1st place.
There was no time set on it, it was mine from that day on.
I have builds in AW and in a few other worlds under that citizenship.
Strangely someone has been renewing it and I have no idea who is doing that,
I sent a letter to AW a wile back asking who keeps renewing it for me and
they don't seem to know either.
It runs out in Feb. as it goes into the 30 days left warnings and around
15th day left warning its always auto renewed.
I was either Data19 or Data20 back when he gave it to me.
Your probably wondering about why I change it hehe, the number marks my age
lol I am Data21 now before all this started.
All I want is to have my citizenship back....
Remember my post about my cit running out way before it was sopose to?
Well I asked AW about that back then and they told me that it was not under
any worlds.
And now AW over this posting they are saying that now it is under a world.
Jan 10, 2002, 5:30pm
That will do me alot of good, I don't have ED rights in AW, how would I
change my land over to new cit?
[View Quote]"blasto" <GovDion at subdimension.com> wrote in message
news:3c3dea21$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> they were renewing it cause it was part of the world. It was not renewed
> this year. I suggest that you get another cit before they start forcing
the
> $120 a year thing!
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3de7f4 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
help
named
> that,
and
> age
> under
world.
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 5:41pm
100% right! How they did it is beyond me, and without asking me or even
telegraming me about it.
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c3decdf$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hm.. what a pickle. Since this was given to you it is your cit, they have
> no right to take it back. If they're paying for the renewal it's their
own
> fault. ;)
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3debef at server1.Activeworlds.com...
renewed
forcing
please
citizenship.
doing
me
> around
> my
to?
not
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 5:46pm
Id be happy to start paying on it, but I cant till I find out whos doing it
lol
Why send money in if you know its going to be auto renewed?
The 1st year I was shocked, I was going to send my renew in that day and
went in and found it renewed.
my post about my cit ran out early, remember that one? well AW told me
someone on there end mistyped the renew date on it and they fixed that, and
that it was NOT under any worlds.
Now they are telling me that it is under a world that I never been to lol
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c3decdf$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hm.. what a pickle. Since this was given to you it is your cit, they have
> no right to take it back. If they're paying for the renewal it's their
own
> fault. ;)
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3debef at server1.Activeworlds.com...
renewed
forcing
please
citizenship.
doing
me
> around
> my
to?
not
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 6:09pm
they are now telling it is attached to the world loki. It is possible the
world owner
has reclaimed the citizenship.
I never herd of that world nor have I ever been in it lol
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c3df26c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> LoL which world? :) If AW said it wasn't under any worlds originally,
then
> it shouldn't be now.
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3def9a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> it
> and
lol
> have
their
would
> I
> world
for
and
> marks
sopose
was
under
> a
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 6:19pm
In my rule book yes.
If you are given something, they can't take it back unless you give it back,
if you say no, there's nothing they can do about it.
Not sure what rule book AW is on though.
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c3df544$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> They could've had the name changed. In which case, how can they reclaim
it?
> It was given to you. If you give something to someone it automatically
> becomes theirs. ;) like I give you $20, that's yours to spend isn't it?
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3df4e6 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
the
> doing
> and
> me
> that,
to
> they
not
start
someone
the
who
> is
it
warnings
number
it
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 7:07pm
I dont see why I should do any of that, AW should just take it from that
world by force and give it back to me.
I am not at fault here why should I be treated that way?
[View Quote]"blasto" <GovDion at subdimension.com> wrote in message
news:3c3e01cf$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well, since they were stupid and gave you their world cit, you can't do
much
> about it. You didn't pay a cent for the cit, and it was still registered
> under that world (even if AW idiots told you otherwise). It looks a lot
like
> a con. Talk to the owner of loki and see if you can straighten things out.
> Even if you can't get it back for free, maybe you can buy him a cit. Then
> you can get your cit back and be able to use the other things you had
built
> at least.
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3df74a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> back,
reclaim
automatically
it?
possible
> originally,
whos
> day
> told
fixed
been
cit,
> it's
> how
was
back.
in
on.
idea
> renewing
me.
> was
that
> is
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 7:12pm
I don't even know the owner of that world.
I never been to it before.
All I know is BlueMax55 is who gave it to me for winning that tourist
building contest which took place in the world Armor.
I still don't know where this world loki came from or who owns it.
[View Quote]"blasto" <GovDion at subdimension.com> wrote in message
news:3c3e01cf$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well, since they were stupid and gave you their world cit, you can't do
much
> about it. You didn't pay a cent for the cit, and it was still registered
> under that world (even if AW idiots told you otherwise). It looks a lot
like
> a con. Talk to the owner of loki and see if you can straighten things out.
> Even if you can't get it back for free, maybe you can buy him a cit. Then
> you can get your cit back and be able to use the other things you had
built
> at least.
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3df74a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> back,
reclaim
automatically
it?
possible
> originally,
whos
> day
> told
fixed
been
cit,
> it's
> how
was
back.
in
on.
idea
> renewing
me.
> was
that
> is
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 11:26pm
I couldn't pay, noone would give me any answers to who was renewing it, it
was just stuck like that till now.
They should give it back.
[View Quote]"foxmccloud" <FoxMcCloud at cyberbrain.com> wrote in message
news:3c3e1b8e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> No, actually AW should not give it back to you that way, since you didn't
pay for the renewed citizenship... you were given a 1-year
> citizenship, but the 2nd one was given to you by error obviously. So you
can't complain that you don't want to pay anything to them
> even though they paid for you, even if that was by error.
>
> Fox Mc Cloud
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> a écrit dans le message news:
3c3e029c at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 11:33pm
yes, but it was not given to me by that world owner...
Put yourself in my shoes, go back and read how i got it in the 1st place.
I have asked AW each year who is renewing it, they did not know and would
not look to see for me, i asked if it was somehow under a world they told me
no, now when it gets taken from me they tell me that it is under a world.
the way i see it, its 100% mine, its not my fault AW lied to me then times i
asked if it was under a world, and i am not at fault for how Bluemax55 got
that cit to give out like that.
why am i being hurt over this???
[View Quote]"mongo" <mongo at alt.2600.comcrap> wrote in message
news:3c3e1a74$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Rather than going off on a tangent, approach this from a world owners
> standpoint, in figuring out who to contact.
>
> I know of the world Loki - it was a 50/10, means 3 cit numbers on
> renewal, all sequential. Search on 314062, 061, 064, 065, and get the
> citizen name attached to these accounts - they will most likely be the
world
> owner. I also know the world owner, and AWCOM policy on citizenships
> attached as part of a world. At ANY time, the world owner can reclaim the
> account, and ask for a reissue of the password. I give you this piece of
> advice when you talk to the world owner . You give them attitude like you
> put forth in this thread, and you'll be SOL. You approach them reasonably,
> and you might be able to work out some sort of compromise of some sort.
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3e03d1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 11:39pm
why not you send, just right click and reply to sender, it will send to my
email and not over the ng
[View Quote]"mongo" <mongo at alt.2600.comcrap> wrote in message
news:3c3e21b5 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Contact me ASAP, Data21. Email is mongo at alt2600.com - I have news of this
> that you might want to hear -
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 11:56pm
NM you found me lol
[View Quote]"data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
news:3c3e4247 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> why not you send, just right click and reply to sender, it will send to my
> email and not over the ng
>
>
> "mongo" <mongo at alt.2600.comcrap> wrote in message
> news:3c3e21b5 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
this
>
>
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Jan 11, 2002, 1:54am
ohh that hehe. i just want my cit back is all :-)
I do have and pay for a citizenship in another universe, just was very
confused about this cit over here, no one would give me the answers I needed
until now when something goes wrong lol
[View Quote]"foxmccloud" <FoxMcCloud at cyberbrain.com> wrote in message
news:3c3e5589 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> My point is you can't really complain if you didn't pay anything... Do you
want your money back? :)
>
> Fox Mc Cloud
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> a écrit dans le message news:
3c3e3f32 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
it
>
>
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Jan 11, 2002, 1:56am
strange huh, you can change your name to and the log in pass for your cit,
it wont change over here for a few days after lol
[View Quote]"katerine" <removethisailleurs at ailleurs3d.com> wrote in message
news:Xns91932C5A237D0nospambrrcom at 166.90.181.12...
>
> What does the AW database update has to do with the newsreader's
> configuration Data21 has on his own computer?
> ;)
>
>
>
>
> "foxmccloud" <FoxMcCloud at cyberbrain.com> wrote in
> news:3c3e5898 at server1.Activeworlds.com:
>
>
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Jan 14, 2002, 11:18pm
well if you would READ it ALL you will see that I could not send money into
it, AW lied 2 times about it not being under any worlds, and they did not
know who was paying for it. Therefor there was no reason really to pay for
it. Its AW fault for lying to me twice.
Now all of a sudden they say its under a world hmm interesting how things
change when things go wrong :-/
[View Quote]"pc hamster" <pchamster at msn.com> wrote in message
news:3c436db6$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hi everyone:
>
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3df4e6 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
the
>
> I *really* hate to sound like the proverbial devil here, but you got
EXACTLY
> what you paid for!!! Based on what you've said so far, you sent in NO $$$
> so *technically speaking* YOU HAD NO CITIZENSHIP!!!!
>
> Now, I *will* agree that you should get the land owed to you (although
even
> THAT would be rather generous of AW to do), however if *I* were you, I
> wouldn't exactly hold your breath. :-)
>
> Besides, with a PROPERLY PAID FOR 3D Homepage, you could probably get the
> same amount of land back (and then some!) - AND YOU WOULD LEGALLY OWN IT
ALL
> BY YOURSELF!!!
>
> Now, with that said, I'm not going to add salt to the proverbial wound by
> rubbing it in. But it is EXACTLY because of cases like this that AW (or
any
> other "Dot Com" for that matter!) don't encourage the transferring of ANY
> account for ANY reason. It's just that simple.
>
> In all sincerity, I do wish you well with your new citizenship, but I also
> hope you've learned a lesson or two stemming from your "old" one.
>
> Just my $.02 worth...
>
> Cheers for now everyone :-)
>
> Patrick Cook
> Owner - Pub 102X
> pchamster at msn.com
> musicradio102x at juno.com
> Denver, Colorado
>
>
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Jan 15, 2002, 3:56am
Don't need to, it already hurt them a small bit for them 2 years.
Its just funny how its under a world now, but it was not under any world for
2 years
[View Quote]"sw chris" <chris at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
news:3c43bbdf at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> If they lied to you, sue them. If it was a mistake, then you'll find out
in
> court.
>
> SW Chris
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c43835f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> into
not
for
things
possible
> $$$
> the
IT
> by
(or
> ANY
> also
>
>
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Jan 15, 2002, 12:29pm
Get out of this owner's hair?
haha I am the owner of that cit.
It's not my fault AW did not know who was renewing it for me!
It's not my fault AW told me it was not under any world for 2 years!
How this all happened I still have no idea!
As I said before I won that cit fair and square, and the person that gave it
to me for winning was BlueMax55.
This thing took place in the world named Armor.
The way I see it, if someone gives you something, there is no way they can
ever take it back unless it was a temp thing and this was not a temp thing!
[View Quote]"pc hamster" <pchamster at msn.com> wrote in message
news:3c43e2b7$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hi everyone:
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c43835f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> into
not
for
things
>
> Data....I *did* read it all and *personally*(if not quite honestly!) I
think
> you should take what you can and gladly GET OUT OF DODGE (i.e. get out of
> this owner's hair)!!! That all *I'm* suggesting you do. I'm NOT trying
to
> take anyone's side here. If my original post came across the wrong way,
it
> wasn't intended to. I was just speaking (and thinking) only in the
> technical sense (i.e. according to AW's own internal records). If I was
in
> error somehow, I stand most humbly corrected. :-)
>
> And Grimble....What was that GRUMBLING noise I heard about ME being AW's
> "New 3D Homepage Marketing Manager" I heard???? *grin!* Boy, I wish I
> *did* have that position.... :-)
>
> Cheers for now everyone... :-)
>
> Patrick Cook
> Owner - Pub102X
> pchamster at msn.com
> musicradio102x at juno.com
> Denver, Colorado
>
>
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Jan 15, 2002, 12:30pm
Im not sueing lol that's stupid for something like this.
[View Quote]"lioness o" <nobody at nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:3c4417c5 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Sue em??? Think bout this for a minute. There is no money lost here. Data
> didn't pay anything. But he would have to pay court costs. Is it worth all
> the stress and trouble just to get the boy's rights back??? Until somebody
> could get the courts to understand what he is trying to fight for, we're
> talking a very long time and a lot of money for attorney retainer fees,
etc.
> What it would probably boil down to in the court's eyes is something
called
> "creative rights" because basically that's what it is since Data needs his
> rights returned so he can get his building privs back. In the court's
eyes,
> AW would be considered a "Bryce" type of program with a chat. The judge
> might even think it would be a waste of time and paperwork to pursue
> something of this nature.
>
>
>
>
> "sw chris" <chris at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
> news:3c43bbdf at server1.Activeworlds.com...
out
> in
> not
> for
> things
> possible
NO
(although
I
get
OWN
> IT
wound
> (or
of
I
>
>
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Jan 15, 2002, 12:35pm
Because "if" it was under a world back then even thoue AW told me that is
was "not" under any worlds back then, well since I was not able to pay for
it soposibly being renewed free under a world, AW just lost $40 bucks.
[View Quote]"wizard myrddin" <Wiz at rdescape.com> wrote in message
news:3c43f944 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I really dought that, can you expand on the statment " Don't need to, it
> already hurt them a small bit for them 2 years."
>
>
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c43c498 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> for
> out
money
did
pay
got
in
> NO
> (although
you,
> I
> get
> OWN
> wound
AW
> of
but
> I
>
>
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Jan 15, 2002, 2:41pm
LOL
[View Quote]"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3c44444c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Oh wow ... I bet they're really pissed about that! LOL
>
> Grims
>
> data21 <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c443e2c at server1.Activeworlds.com...
is
for
it
> world
> find
they
to
how
you
sent
were
> probably
> LEGALLY
proverbial
> that
> transferring
citizenship,
> one.
>
>
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Jan 16, 2002, 12:38pm
Im ok in DLP, its AW im not ok.
[View Quote]"lioness o" <nobody at nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:3c44a6b7 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> From what I remember reading, Data CAN'T take his creations with him since
> they now have Loki's name stamped all over them. That is in part, some of
> what Data's complaint is. Data was, for over 2 years, one of the major
> builders in DLP, building not just in some of the worlds there but helping
> to create most of the landscape. He was a pivotal creator of most of what
> you see in DLP today. With Loki's name stamped on most of those builds,
Data
> cannot do anything with those objects. He cannot move them, nor change
them
> in any way, (ie delete them).
>
>
> "pc hamster" <pchamster at msn.com> wrote in message
> news:3c437015$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
do
registered
lot
> out.
> Then
Homepage
(sorry,
>
>
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Jan 16, 2002, 12:39pm
I can't log a bot in without a cit.
[View Quote]"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3c44c309$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Nothing stopping him taking them elsewhere ... A very simple solution is
> HamFon's Buildbot ... it doesn't give a monkey's navel about the citizen
> number its built on ... in fact he can filter the scan using it!
>
> Not sure how else he was intending to "take it with him" anyway.
>
> Grims
>
> lioness o <nobody at nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:3c44a6b7 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
since
of
helping
what
> Data
> them
> do
> registered
> lot
things
had
> Homepage
Why
> (sorry,
>
>
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Jan 16, 2002, 10:17pm
Ummm I did not make/start this issue the person that took my cit did!
My posting is the "effect" of a problem not the cause of one....
[View Quote]"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3c4596b2$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> YOU don't need to. Do you have no friends in AW? Either someone that
trusts
> you enough to lend you a *temporary* priv password or will work with you
for
> a little while to scan your stuff of for you??
>
> Are you determined to make this a bigger issue that it already appears to
be
> for you?
>
> Grims
>
> data21 <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c4590b3 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
is
citizen
some
major
> builds,
change
> can't
looks
> a
> cit.
you
> things
> AGAIN???
>
>
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Jan 17, 2002, 3:17pm
LOL
[View Quote]"sw chris" <chris at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
news:3c470472 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Order! Or Judge Chris'll find you in contempt of court. :)
>
> SW Chris
>
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
> news:3c463ef8$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Jan 18, 2002, 5:13am
I know and we did.
But I still read my post if someone added to it.
I just don't like the few people in here making me look like the bad guy
when I am not, I will post back if some one dose that to me when they don't
read the whole post to see what's really going on and start making stuff up
in there head to fill in the missing gaps they skimmed over and all. And
they shouldn't have even posed in here in the 1st place if that's all they
are going to do.
They don't help, all they do is make thing worse and make people mad.
Please I still do want your help on this.
[View Quote]"mongo" <mongo at alt.2600.comcrap> wrote in message
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> Data21,
>
> I contacted you in Dreamland Park, and I thought we worked out this
> issue. Since you're such a whiny lil pissant, and can't accept my good
faith
> efforts to try and resolve the problem, I withdraw my offer of help. Good
> luck.
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c461823 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
you
> to
> solution
> him
part,
but
most
> of
you
still
straighten
him
> a
things
the
3D
> (allegedly!).
> him/herself
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 8:20pm
test confirmed :-)
[View Quote]"imagine" <imagines1 at mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> test
>
>
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