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Aug 20, 2003, 8:57pm

[View Quote] Telomere test on the chromosomes of a subject.

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--Bowen--

No of SETI units returned: 69
Processing time: 57 days, 10 hours.
(Total hours: 1378)
www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu

Aug 21, 2003, 4:32pm

[View Quote] Maybe you missed the latest virus/trojan/whatever you want to call them
scare.

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--Bowen--

No of SETI units returned: 69
Processing time: 57 days, 10 hours.
(Total hours: 1378)
www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu

Aug 21, 2003, 8:27pm

[View Quote] Half the known world that uses windows.

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--Bowen--

No of SETI units returned: 69
Processing time: 57 days, 10 hours.
(Total hours: 1378)
www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu

Aug 23, 2003, 4:14am

[View Quote] Actually, KAH does not have linux installed on any of his machines.

> Microsoft can grasp your "decent coding practices". Most of their code is
> flawless. Their OSs have a few problems, which really aren't that big of
> problems if you know what you're doing. Such as, threads being totally
> messed up and memory handling. If their products were truly pure and utter
> crap, as you Linux-thumpers like to say, then why do soooooooo many people
> use them? As for bugfixes, and security, hotfixes and patches come out
> every other day practically to fix most of the problems that are found.

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware of the last time a huge *nix virii/worm/trojan
got on the loose. Windows is the worst of the worst as I've
experienced. It's great for games, sure, but the _only_ reason
enterprises use it is for the sheer fact that it's fast to get crappy
code working the way you want it paying half wage for employees that
program crappy.

> Have you ever looked at a Linux exploit, how about an AIX one... what about
> a Sun OS one? Every operating system is going to have exploits targeted at
> it. Sure, there were programming mistakes made, but there were for _every_
> operating system out there, well, except JoeOS. :P I have to understand
> how most of these exploits work in order to find vulnerable/infected
> machines at my job. The only reason there's so many exploits for windows,
> is because its the biggest OS, the most "hackers" are going after exploiting
> its inner-workings. If Linux were to suddenly be the most popular OS for
> desktop machines, "hackers" would go after it! But, if you've also done
> your research, which I knowwwwwww such an informed person such as yourself
> has done, you'll not that there are just as many, if not more exploits for
> *nix then windows created every day!

Yeah, all OS' have exploits... name one that has as many as Windows that
are exploited minutely.


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--Bowen--

No of SETI units returned: 74
Processing time: 66 days, 6 hours.
(Total hours: 1590)
www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu

Aug 23, 2003, 5:52am

[View Quote] Fell short of the "as many as" and "minutely" criterion. Of course, one
can mention all the patches released by distrobutions to fix things like
apache and their ftp servers and things like this... but case and point
that those aren't exactly standard as _all_ the exploits in windows
(excluding the IIS which has googles of it's own problems).

The Errata page linked in that to show the bugs of linux shows quite a
bit of non-essential (even non-sensical other than for "my linux box has
EVERYTHING installed" view). The ones that were essential were just
bugs and not exploits or really hackable other than with the local
system. But, oh well... I would rather have control over my operating
system. Maybe that's just me.

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--Bowen--

No of SETI units returned: 74
Processing time: 66 days, 6 hours.
(Total hours: 1590)
www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu

Aug 24, 2003, 4:57pm

[View Quote] All the Universities and Technology institutes near where I am in NY use
linux and other open source alternatives, like Mozilla and OpenOffice.
Maybe it's just _your_ university that likes to pay insane license fees.

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--Bowen--

No of SETI units returned: 74
Processing time: 66 days, 6 hours.
(Total hours: 1590)
www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu

Aug 24, 2003, 8:03pm

[View Quote] Sure. Duel booting, remeber?

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--Bowen--

No of SETI units returned: 74
Processing time: 66 days, 6 hours.
(Total hours: 1590)
www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu

Aug 25, 2003, 3:09am

[View Quote] I use it for entertainment... little else.

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--Bowen--

No of SETI units returned: 74
Processing time: 66 days, 6 hours.
(Total hours: 1590)
www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu

Aug 25, 2003, 8:13pm

Children please, we don't need 3 versions of me here.

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--Bowen--

No of SETI units returned: 74
Processing time: 66 days, 6 hours.
(Total hours: 1590)
www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu

Aug 24, 2003, 8:17pm

Wow, if I thought abuse of powers to get special things was bad now...

--Bowen--

> With the advent of ver 3, we have seen more and more 'World builders'
> features added. As yet, AWI has only tested a beta ver of the 'new'
> features in a world that would be open to the general public; that world
> is now closed. [NewAW]
>
> This may well be the best time for those at AWI to pause, hear from the
> Citizens, and hear what they would like to see of the 'world building'
> features added to the Citizen builder's toolbox.
>
>
> My 2 cents ...
>
> On NewAw, the beta world that was 'looked at' by the then beta team,
> made use of a bot to oversee many things and AWI kept track of how long
> you were inworld and involved. Bots has been one of the better things
> that AWI added to the interface we have with the environment.
>
> Proposed ...
>
> The first Citizen designed world
>
> Being that AWI can tell when one is being actively part of the
> community, either through chatting or building, and as such, could then
> be the banker of 'Community Time' (CT), those who do more, such as those
> who teach, PK, GK, Beta, oversee Community Groups, or OldTimers, etc.,
> would receive CT+ for giving more of their time to enhance the
> experience. With this in place, a monetary system could come into play,
> and maybe a few more ppl would become part of the active community
> [NewAW had/has this].
>
> On becoming a Citizen, they would be given an allotment of 'land' and CT
> to get you started with building. If you don't build {explore should be
> viewed as part of building) or chat, then what are you doing here!
> NewAW had/has this, but gave you CT on account, 'sold' you a lot and
> had you pay for each object used in your 'build.'
>
> As a Citizen becomes involved with the Community, they would gain the
> means to expand their land area or move closer to a teleport 'hub'
> (thereby reducing the time someone has to spend walking to your lot).
> Maybe the Citizen can 'buy' such things as tee shirts and time
> extensions to citizenship, or world(s) ... or an 'accent piece'. The
> list of things that CT could be used for is more than I can spend time
> listing .... If I did, you would find something else that one can trade
> for CT's. Bot/s can be set to control 'local' teleporting [NewAW had/has
> this].
>
>
> Then, AWI could create a world, seed it with teleport stations, building
> roads connecting the teleport hubs 'to the compass,' and then create
> 'lots' around the AWI Hub. (Lots being smaller near the hub and larger
> as developed out. Lots closer to the hub costing more CT's than those
> farther away.) [NewAW had/has lots of different prices].
>
> Zones could be created allowing those with older citizenship to build
> closer to the GZ and also allowing late-comers to Active Worlds with
> sufficient CTs to buy building lots closer in.
>
> Allow lot owners to work the terrain , this would allow for basements,
> or ppl creating mountains. Of course ... Such things would have to be
> paid for in CT's [AWTeen already does this].
>
> AWI could use the Mega-Path for its OP, and maybe allow 'Accent Pieces'
> [ZObjects], that load from other than the Mega-Path (there are already
> worlds out there that have more than one OP, I am sure that some smart
> coder out there could work out how to do this, and it too would cost CT's).
>
> Communities could then build around the hubs and maybe tax themselves to
> add things like parks, lakes, and other community enhancement projects.
>
> my 2 cents ...
>


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--Bowen--

No of SETI units returned: 74
Processing time: 66 days, 6 hours.
(Total hours: 1590)
www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu

Aug 30, 2003, 4:07am

[View Quote] Dialogs bloat program size. Try stuffing things in categories to keep
down the dialog amount.

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--Bowen--
http://bowen.homelinux.com/sys/
Yeah, it's that good.
(Maybe an AW section in the near future?)

Aug 30, 2003, 4:37pm

[View Quote] I wonder, why is it everytime the word bot is mentioned you always
through in your bots in comparison? It's sort of like "I got a new bike
for christmas." Then you go "Yeah well my bike has 2 wheels and a brake
for both of them."

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--Bowen--
http://bowen.homelinux.com/sys/
Yeah, it's that good.
(Maybe an AW section in the near future?)

Aug 30, 2003, 5:25pm

[View Quote] Bad mood trumps asshole, sorry -- didn't eep teach you anything?

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--Bowen--
http://bowen.homelinux.com/sys/
Yeah, it's that good.
(Maybe an AW section in the near future?)

Aug 31, 2003, 4:35am

[View Quote] I only have 3 bots to use. I, however, can place as many objects as I want.

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--Bowen--
http://bowen.homelinux.com/sys/
Yeah, it's that good.
(Maybe an AW section in the near future?)

Aug 31, 2003, 4:32pm

[View Quote] I would only pay money for things I can reuse over and over and over and
over. For something so limiting size, speed, and features all take
effect. I'm sure people wouldn't have a problem paying $5 for a bot,
but weren't you asking for around $50?

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--Bowen--
http://bowen.homelinux.com/sys/
Yeah, it's that good.
(Maybe an AW section in the near future?)

Aug 31, 2003, 5:46pm

[View Quote] I have a bot limitation instated by AW. 3 bots maximum. Maybe you
missed something, I don't pay for things I can make - my WP is notepad.

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--Bowen--
http://bowen.homelinux.com/sys/
Yeah, it's that good.
(Maybe an AW section in the near future?)

Aug 31, 2003, 5:47pm

[View Quote] Someone changed it because no one was paying for it originally.

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--Bowen--
http://bowen.homelinux.com/sys/
Yeah, it's that good.
(Maybe an AW section in the near future?)

Sep 5, 2003, 6:07am

[View Quote] Bots get the same abilities their owners get. They can spam more
effectively though. I suggest adding some sort of customs aide clone to
protect against spamming and scrolling and such.

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--Bowen--
http://bowen.homelinux.com/sys/
Yeah, it's that good.
(Maybe an AW section in the near future?)

Sep 5, 2003, 6:08am

[View Quote]
Also sounds like a good idea, providing a test world to bot developers
who don't have access to funds like that.

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--Bowen--
http://bowen.homelinux.com/sys/
Yeah, it's that good.
(Maybe an AW section in the near future?)

Sep 7, 2003, 6:47pm

[View Quote] No.

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--Bowen--
http://bowen.homelinux.com/sys/
Yeah, it's that good.
(Maybe an AW section in the near future?)

Sep 8, 2003, 3:11am

[View Quote] Check again, the hash is not the same anymore. Maybe back in the days
of 3.2 - certainly not anymore. I've tried it. You know, using the
browser to reverse the password on ATDumps by assigning it to your PPW,
yes I know the process and no, it doesn't work anymore.

Yes, it can get the encrypted form, but I do not believe it's anything
of value... unless I misunderstood what he was trying to convey but
that's pretty easy to do.

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--Bowen--
http://bowen.homelinux.com/sys/
Yeah, it's that good.
(Maybe an AW section in the near future?)

Feb 20, 2004, 1:09am

Just giving everyone a headsup on a virus being spread around again via
billing at activeworlds.com or similar. As always, don't run attachments
from people you don't know. As far as I could coerce, it was
W32.Netsky.B at mm in the file information.com.

Nice try though Matt.

--Bowen--

Feb 20, 2004, 6:20pm

[View Quote] Yes, Spoofed header carrying the "from" address billing at activeworlds.com.

Feb 20, 2004, 6:26pm

[View Quote]
He's still trying, Now he's trying to spoof a "delivery failed" so I'll
read the attachment through that. Still has the W32.Netsky.B at mm worm on it.

--Bowen--

Feb 25, 2004, 8:05pm

Would anyone happen to have my bot class lying around anywhere? I can't
seem to find it on my hard drive. :)

Feb 26, 2004, 3:43pm

[View Quote] [View Quote] Ah yes, thank you. Mozilla has some... rather limited searching
capabilities.

Apr 24, 2004, 6:09pm

[View Quote] > Dude, how the hell is that at AW Gz, thats freaky.

Invisible.

Apr 24, 2004, 6:16pm

[View Quote] > Hey Everyone,
>
> I am currently looking for 3 or 4 BETA testers to give my Eclipse security
> bot a try (some pics and info: http://zetech.swehli.com/eclipse/) in general
> use. I stress that the entire purpose of this bot is security monitoring and
> as such will only be eventually released to persons whom have security needs
> such as world staff, peacekeepers etc as otherwise it is generally something
> similar to Xelagot (although no query) without eject.
>
> People with experience with other security bots would be good as they will
> know what to expect, also the system comes with voice control and text to
> speech so anyone applying will require the Speech API 5.1 available on the
> microsoft website.
>
> If you are interested and have experience and general security knowledge of
> AW please email me strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk

Mind releasing the source to make sure you're not trying to get PPW's
from people?

You never know, it may be an eleborate trick just to see how many you
can get (you may not do anything with them). Better to be safe than
sorry, though.

Apr 24, 2004, 9:09pm

[View Quote] The fact that he's bringing a bot into AWGZ makes me a little iffy on
any trust I had left. One would think it's to show-off.

Apr 25, 2004, 6:21am

[View Quote] Won't be you that's uncoding him. Certainly isn't going to be me. Keep
trying grasshopper.

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