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Mar 12, 2003, 8:05pm
There are not enough inspectors to cover the size of Iraq. At least
according to one of the senior inspectors in Baghdad. Sorry, I forget his
name, but he did tell FOX news that and I suspect other networks as well.
And the United Nations has even admitted that the Inspections only work if
there are troops on Iraq's border threatening to invade.
Chris
[View Quote]"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> thre are inspectors ot find them
>
>
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Mar 12, 2003, 8:07pm
Oh lay off. He called my bluff. I'm sorry Joker for underestimating you
and calling you "kiddo". It was wrong.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"bowen" <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com.ANTISPAM> wrote in message
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>
> "the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3e6e38b7$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
> But we agree you're in a hurry, same deal. I'm sure your language has
it's own
> little weirdo rules like that one too; and you forego them on the internet
like
> everyone else.
>
> --Bowen--
>
>
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Mar 12, 2003, 8:08pm
How do you get the sniper into Baghdad? How do you extract him out after
Saddam is dead?
Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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> A sniper ?
>
> Drac
> sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e6d66d5$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
turned
> shit,
_try_
> something
> about
> the
> word
like
You
and
stop
checked,
> if
> it
> politburo.
"We
> them,
> people
to
> automobile
> of
get
>
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Mar 12, 2003, 8:09pm
The war didn't start yet. I thought that was a stupid move too, turning
away Iraqi surrenders. But then again, you got to think of those soldier's
families and what would happen to them when that patrol is found missing and
defected.
Chris
[View Quote]"ubermonkey" <henry at wcalliance.com> wrote in message
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> Secret covert operations. Tricky satellite lasers. Exploding ham (uh,
> what?). It's all possible these days, theoretically, but it's against "da
> law." This is where laws get us... instead of just realizing "yo, saddam's
> an asshole, kill him," we have to kill all his troops (and trust me, you
> can't kill him, he's the leader - he's probably nowhere near the combat
> zone. Just like they couldn't kill Bin Laden, he's nowhere near where the
> fighting's going on.)
>
> How serious you take what I write is entirely up to you, thus adding a new
> level of dynamics to the newsgroup interface. =D
>
> I heard that we turned away a troop of Iraqi soldiers who tried to
> surrender, anyone else catch that one?
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
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Mar 12, 2003, 8:13pm
Chris: "Iraq was never a threat until after September 11, which happened SIX
MONTHS after Bush took office"
If this do not mean you are blaming Iraque for what happened Septemper 11th,
then I do not know what would.
Let me clarify then.
1. The War on Terrorism started after September 11.
2. The War on Terrorism's purpose is NOT to target ONLY the people
responsible for September 11.
3. Al Qaeda is responsible for September 11.
4. Iraq supports terror. It is a target.
Conclusion: Iraq has nothing to do with September 11. But it has something
to do with terrorism. Terrorism and Sept 11 are not the same thing.
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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> Chris: "Iraq was never a threat until after September 11, which happened
SIX
> MONTHS after Bush took office"
> If this do not mean you are blaming Iraque for what happened Septemper
11th,
> then I do not know what would.
>
> I want you to wait until UN says it is ok, if you do not wait YOU (USA) is
> breaking the international laws. Not sure what is so hard to understand in
> that ?
> Funny thing is also that USA is planning to use chemical weapons in the
> attack; the same weapons that are supposed to be a reason for an attack.
> Contravercial I would say.
> USA has asked several European countries (Finland ) including to kick out
> some iraqi diplomats, the reason they said was that they are spys; funny
> comming from a country which reads other peoples e-mails and listen to
> phones of the memebers of UN ( security council).
>
> You say peace at any price is nuts; maybe so, but war at any price is
worse
> in my opinion.
>
> What I would like to hear ? I would like to hear the truth from Bush, not
> mumble jumlbe about going in to resque the iraqi ppl.
> All reasons I have heard so far has sounded like cover ups. Blix has not
> found anything that would be a reason for a war.
> USA claims Iraque has illegal weapons, how come nobody finds them? Cannot
> USA simply show on a map where to look then? One would not belive that
would
> give away any strategies.
> Somehow it seems to me, that if USA has some proofs and refuse to give
them,
> is simply because they would get busted also, a bit like a burgler beeing
> witness to a murder. If he goes to the police he will get busted also.
>
> Drac
>
>
>
> sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e6d669c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
USA
> has
> called
> then
say
> in
have
> USA
one
people
> not
> lying
That
can.
> in
driverslicense,
> SIX
> president,
> more
> hurry?
inspectors
simply
> is
> the
>
>
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Mar 13, 2003, 1:58am
I don't listen to CNN. Think I'm a Nazi? Ask my friend. He's Jewish.
Dickwad.
Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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>
> sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e6d64b3 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
would
> Well, as I see it , the problems is the lack of proofs. Maybe you can
> present something that US goverment cannot ?
> I seriously doubt us debating will change anything. What I would like to
see
> is a debate between Saddam and George, but one of them is too chicken for
> that.
> I guess you will be happy to know that there is a Nazistic group in Sweden
> that is against racism. To me a nazi is more a person who tries to inforce
> his "right" on other people. We are attacking your coutry for your own
best
> ( like Poland)
>
> Iran.
quickly,
> their
>
> Well, I am glad there is atleast a little bit critizism in you :) Maybe
you
> some day will stop and wonder if all they say on CNN is true or not also.
>
> out
situation
>
> Yes Rwanda was a disaster. I also agree UN should have more guts. But the
> situation in Iraque is not similar to Rwanda. I just think Blix should be
> allowed to finish his work. IF he finds something, then we are infront of
a
> new situation. You say Saddam has been there for 12 years, so I do not see
> what one or two more months would change so dramatically.
>
arguments
>
> Maybe I am yes, I have never said I am not. Not sure what facts you would
> like to have? USA (you) are claiming they have this and that, I say they
> have not found this and that,, not quite sure how either of us could back
> that up without going there, and even if we did, we might not be any
wiser.
>
I
I'm
>
> I think paranoid is a quite good word for seeing the boogieman allover
:-)
>
>
> I have nothing against stupid people and want not any disrespect towards
> them. It is just a feature like talented, artistic or nearsighted. I might
> be stupid for not beliving in everything goverments say, then again you
> might be because you belive their propaganda. I guess if we continue this
> discussion in 5 years we will know who was more stupid.
>
> Drac
astute
> have
fact
a
> he's
> joker,
you
him
> on
Justin
with
> gets
> points
> always
> can't
>
>
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Mar 13, 2003, 2:09am
You are well intentioned as well. I'm glad to see that. We probably
disagree on almost everything, but I'm happy that we can move beyond that.
If you have ever seen the film Patch Adams, there is a scene where Patch and
his friend conduct an experiment on just the type of standardized greetings
you are referring to. They try to give greetings that are not the norm and
judge people's reaction time. It is one of my favorites in any film ever.
If you havent' seen it, I don't want to spoil you. But that kind of
interaction is refreshing.
SW Chris
"Rump rackers! Meat packers! Lend me your steers!"
[View Quote]"ubermonkey" <henry at wcalliance.com> wrote in message
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> lol, actually you indeed do.
>
> That was probably the coolest response I've ever gotten to one of my fun
> little rants. You're obviously a conscious individual (a rare thing, it
> often seems). And, more than that, your pruity of spirit and will seem
> perfectly intact
>
> Whatever your form of belief may be, you have the distinct ability to
bypass
> the extraneous and see to the core of, for lack of a more descriptive
term,
> spiritualism. I have to say that this little statement of yours is in
> perfect agreement with my perspective on life, regardless of what may seem
> like disagreements. If there were more people with the kind of pure,
> untainted spirit you show, well let's just say this war-like discussion
(not
> to mention the wars! =P) wouldn't be going on.
>
> I've gotta get your opinion on this: What's with all the people who just
say
> "hi" or "how ya doin?" when they pass, but if you actually say anything to
> them, they ignore you? I've taken to responding to standardized greatings
> with "Many happy standardized socially acceptable greeting words to you,
Sir
> or Maam," which I'm sure solidifies my position in their minds as a mental
> patient. =D
>
> I can't quite help feeling like this "who's crazy?" argument the world
> participates in is a little lame since we're all such lovable whackos. =D
>
> there's more stuff mixed in with quotes down there.
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
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me.
> is
>
> I didn't say there is no difference (and if I did, I didn't mean to)...
I'm
> referring to a situation where each one plays a distinct role in a cycle
> which could be broken on either end. Sure, it might hurt civilizations at
> first to remove police, but the first step towards healing always stings,
> and it's easier than saying "just remove all the psychos," since it's
often
> a repressive police state which incites violence in the first place.
Prisons
> (um, sorry, "correctional facilities") don't reform people, they just make
> them bitter. People with severe psychological problems need help, not
> punishment. Shame on you, civilization! Revenge is just as bad as the
crime.
>
> I believe the only fair system is to return people to interaction on a
> one-on-one basis, where no system of power rules over the masses. Granted,
> this will instill chaos at first, but not making this change will
eventually
> lead humanity down a path it... well... doesn't want to go down (I'd say
> they're already well on their way...) Either way, they'll eventually learn
> this lesson, I just always hope it won't take the drastic measures that
> prophets have been warning us about since biblical times and long
before....
>
>
>
> That is so very true... the concepts behind all of the world's religions
are
> all inherently good, it's people who use them as an excuse to further
their
> own agendas who are the real issue. However, these are usually the people
in
> power, it seems.. =P
>
>
> I think a lot of people are filled with excess hate just waiting to
explode
> on anyone who says something they don't entirely agree with. It's too bad
we
> can't all realize that just because people disagree on some logistical
> semantics doesn't make them mortal enemies.
>
> surroundings
> know.
> that
>
> This is my favorite part ^^^^
>
> far
>
>
>
>
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Mar 13, 2003, 2:10am
You should journey over here and see just how blind we're following him! :)
Eyai-yai-yai. You've never seen such demonstration.
Chris
[View Quote]"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> we folowed hitler blind ,
> americans follow bush blind
>
>
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Mar 13, 2003, 2:18am
If the qualification of that question is needing to be a lawyer specializing
in international law, then none of us should be talking.
Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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> Afraid I cannot, I am not a lawyer specialized in international law. But
if
> a country , any country, yes even USA included, attacks another country,
> they are starting a war. In my books the one starting a war is the "bad
> guy". This is nothing I have come up with, it has been discussed in UN.
>
> Drac
> sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e6d6225$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> made
ready
> to
believe
> dancing
a
rid
> the
to
> treat
> marine
> of
>
>
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Mar 13, 2003, 2:22am
Oh perhaps, if all other variables were held constant. :)
Just closing up loose ends. This is the last one! I don't suspect I'll be
replying to any more posts in this thread.
Chris
[View Quote]"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> its the reason why they want more time , and its why U2 planes are used
now
> , why german unmanned planes are brought in , and france and germany
> proposed to send in UN soldiers to support the inspectors , doesnt that
> sound a lil better then war ?
>
>
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Mar 13, 2003, 2:24am
You assume I have a one-track mind. :) Every situation requires a
different kind of action.
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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> The logic in this is a bit unclear to me. I do not support terror tho.
> What comes to point #4, I guess you mean you suspect Iraq support terror ?
>
> The basks in northern Spain is also know to use terror, so IRA in
> North-Irland. Should we also bomb those areas and all organisations and
> countries supporting them ? With your logic one could probably say that
> France support the basks and the catholic church IRA,, so maybe bomb
France
> and the Vatican State also?
>
> Drac
> sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e6fb0fc at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> SIX
> 11th,
> something
happened
(USA)
> is
understand
> in
the
attack.
> out
funny
> not
not
> Cannot
> beeing
come
> one
long,
you
Al-Quaida,
has
> supported
> come
if
> would
not
> on
includes
business.
> moral
european
> not
> living
another
> happened
months
bloody
weapons
> and
just
> your
same
> became
> they
>
>
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Mar 17, 2003, 9:03pm
Finland. He hasn't known a day of oppression in his life, and he doesn't
want anyone to screw that up for him. :)
Chris
[View Quote]"ryan jacob" <ryan_jacob at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What country are you from Count Dracula? Transylvania?
>
> "count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
> news:3e759ec8 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> like
> know
>
>
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Mar 17, 2003, 9:03pm
Considering the source of that comment (Libyan press), I'll ignore that. :P
SW Chris
[View Quote]"swe" <swe at swe-e.com> wrote in message
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> lol! thats the spirit! :)
>
> "count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
> news:3e759ec8 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> like
> know
>
>
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Mar 18, 2003, 2:49am
As far as I know, the UN has not passed any resolutions disallowing the use
of force in Iraq, but plenty to the contrary.
You are allowed your dissent as we all are. I didn't mean to say that you
can't dissent if you don't know any oppression. I apologize because that
was a bad generalization on my part.
Look, guys, if you think Bush's diplomacy sucks, just say it. Because I
agree with you. But that and Saddam are two separate issues, both of which I
am not about to begin debating here. This is all I'll say, because I really
don't want to turn this thread into another 100-reply long discussion. :)
SW Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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> You are right that I have not personally experienced any oppression, but
if
> you are familiar with the history of Finland, you might know that we have
> had to fight very hard for our independence against Russia and Soviet.
> 1939 Soviet decided that they will libereate the finnish people from the
> oppression of the land and factoryowners; they made a fake attack towards
> themselves and blamed on Finland. They attacked us and one of the first
> thing they did was to bomb Helsinki and only civilians died. Soviet
> proceeded a bit in the beginning, but there was no finns to liberete;
> everyone fought against it. They even had to "import" people from Belarus
to
> act as liberated finns, so that it would look better.
> A war to liberate a population, a war to make peace,, it sounds familiar ,
> huh ?
>
> I also do not see why I cannot be against an attack, just because I have
not
> suffered from oppression personally.
> I just saw parts of the speach Bush gave on TV, and the message was clear:
> We are not going to care what UN says, we do as we want ( I doubt you will
> argue this summary). We have to remember that USA is a member of UN and
with
> that it has agreed to follow the rules of it; and now USA is not going to
do
> it. I am just afraid this will be a signal to other countries also: It is
ok
> to screw UN if what one do feels right.
>
> Drac
> sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e76542e at server1.Activeworlds.com...
doesn't
would
enemies.
> I
>
>
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Mar 18, 2003, 2:52am
If you choose to believe a state-run press of a dictatorial government and
not the free press of the United States (whose correspondents don't even get
invited to the White House Christmas party if they report too much
negativity about the administration, and who are also the correspondants I
prefer to listen to), then that's your perogative, not mine. :)
SW Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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> Of course! Only the press writing what US govermant tells them to do is
> right :-)
>
> Drac
> sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e765447 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> :P
would
enemies.
> I
>
>
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Mar 19, 2003, 1:12am
Alright... enough of this.
Chris
[View Quote]"bowen" <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com.ANTISPAM> wrote in message
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>
> "ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message
news:3E76D97E.4232322A at oct31.de...
>
> There is a reason, he's inviolation of however many umpteen resolutions
that give him
> one last chance. All give the right to military intervention if he fails
to comply.
> Dingity dongity bongity. Next time war heads to Europe, don't expect us
to save you.
>
> --Bowen--
>
>
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Mar 19, 2003, 1:16am
He's referring to the useless Kyoto treaty and the other one about
international pollution prevention where China and India, both signatories,
were excluded from having to prevent any of their pollution output. We
pulled out of Kyoto because it was outdated and Congress voted unanimously
against entering into the pollution prevention treaty because not all
countries had to follow the rules. He's also referring to Bush's judicious
use of the word "expect" which implies that he doesn't think any country is
the USA's equal. He's got a point. Our diplomacy sucks. :)
SW Chris
[View Quote]"binarybud" <leo at realPANTStourvision.com> wrote in message
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> "someone brakes rules one has agreed to follow" no way dude prove
this statement....your on;ly looking in one direction on this.....Saddam is
the one breaking rules and he needs to be taken care of in his own way. You
cannot see past your obvious bias.
>
>
>
>
> "count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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when
> [snip]
>
>
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Mar 19, 2003, 1:18am
Slow down guys! Don't even bother replying to this. It will just lead down
a road we've already been.
Chris
[View Quote]"binarybud" <leo at realPANTStourvision.com> wrote in message
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> your DEAD wrong on this...The UN has failed the world and is in WIMP
mode....Someone needs to defend the world against Dictators like this.
PERIOD. Get off your USA BASHING .....try making some sense. Hows about
you read those PAST resolutions that were UNANIMOUS .....how come your
ignoring history dude.?
>
>
> "count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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is
but
illegal;
anyone
not
rest
is
You
>
>
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Mar 19, 2003, 1:20am
What's with this International Court thing? Where did the US go against its
ruling?
Chris
[View Quote]"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message news:3E776896.14721C2A at oct31.de...
> um - sorry, this one should read :
>
> Btw., the UN reports that Hussein supports the weapon inspectors very well
since January.
> Hussein should go because he ignores International Laws, did not respect
the UN and does
> not respect International Court and he has broken disarmament contracts in
the past.
>
>
> ananas wrote:
well since January.
the UN and does
in the past.
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Mar 19, 2003, 1:23am
Blah. Pakistan has nukes. India has nukes. Israel has nukes. Russia's
still got its nukes. They may be missing some, but they still got nukes.
:P
Yes folks, I'm being facetious.
Chris
[View Quote]"bowen" <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com.ANTISPAM> wrote in message
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>
> "ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message
news:3E77658E.C9D3EF01 at oct31.de...
>
> It was a UN resolution that argued if Saddam didn't comply fully, military
> intervention was the only other alternative. Not making more and more
resolutions to
> appease this dictator.
>
>
> I wouldn't want to be part of an International court when people dislike
others just
> because of their origin. You cannot internationalize a "jury of peers",
having a
> group that's not of your national origin would subvert blind justice.
Anyone with a
> brain would realize _why_ that is.
>
>
> We're enforcing the UN resolutions passed.
>
weapons of mass
> destruction)
>
> Until dictators disarm, we will not either. We're the only one willing to
enforce
> the UN resolutions anyways.
>
> --Bowen--
>
>
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Mar 19, 2003, 1:23am
Well there you go. We agree on something. :)
Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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> I have not choosen to belive the libyan press, but I have neither choosen
to
> belive the "US" press.
> I think people should be more critical towards all press in general.
>
> Drac
> sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e76a612 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
and
> get
I
is
> that.
>
>
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Mar 19, 2003, 1:24am
Because CNN is a liberal's paradise and everyone knows it. :P
Chris
[View Quote]"binarybud" <leo at realPANTStourvision.com> wrote in message
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> my response is the same where you getting this crap from besides your
own delusions?
>
>
> "count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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Gov
think
is
you
head.
>
>
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Mar 19, 2003, 1:42am
Well this kind of response is expected. When one nation begins to amass too
much power to themselves, even if they intend to use it wisely and for the
good of the human population, others will begin to see it as an enemy. To
the others' credit though, all nations who have had this kind of power have
said this. But to the USA's credit, this time the fundamental difference is
that its leader is not seeking world domination. He's going to be gone at
the latest in 5 to 6 years.
The possible solution to this mess is for the USA to withdraw into its own
borders. But this isn't a good idea for the US to do, since now with the
proliferation of nuclear and chemical weapons, the USA's enemies will be
able to attack it and hide from it from anywhere in the world. Which is why
the USA sees the need to go out into the world and find these people.
The other solution is the solution of the past problems like this. Wipe the
USA's military forces and thus economic force out. The USA will cease to be
the only superpower and will leave the European Union to rise in its place.
But even though Gaulists would appreciate this move, it wouldn't ideal to
the international community in the short run, since much of the world
economy and therefore profit is generated by US interests. However in the
long run the economy will pick up again once industry finds the time to
shift its operations from America over to Europe. Businessmen won't like
this because it means loss of profit. They can't gain the profit back
during the time of change. France and China are ideal candidates to
initiate this type of change.
The only other solution that I can think of is for all countries to be
consolodated into one global state. Nice for those of us who are fans of
Emperor Palpatine, but not a good solution in general.
The most ideal solution for a world of greed and jealously and most
importantly impatience would then be to see the demise of the United States
superpower. Or you could just wait out the next few years and solidify
dipolomatic ties with President Hillary. When she gets into the oval
office, you may actually have to worry about global domination. But at
least the war on terror will be history. Patience is the key.
Drippingly yours,
Professor Chris, P.h. D.
Department of International Mockery and Sarcasm
[View Quote]"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message news:3E76E02C.318C6793 at oct31.de...
> Bush waitet till he knew that there are no serious weapons in Iraq anymore
> and now, in a cowardly act of terrorism that is against International Law
> he will send his troups with a military machinery without any risk for
> himself and his soldiers.
>
> When Iraq is down, he expects the UN to send money and help to rebuild it.
> Iraq will have a regime with a new dictator in front - but this dictator
> will be supported by the US - not accepted by the Arab population though.
>
>
> This is not a Lybian, French, Russian, Finish, German or whatever view,
this
> is how all people see it who are not blinded by Bushs propaganda. It
includes
> a lot of American, English and Spanish people - just to name a few.
>
> Millions of people (this is not exaggerated!) go to anti-war and anti-bush
> demonstrations these days, some of them Americans I know. They are better
> Americans than any war-freak because they see that this war only increases
> hate, it does not help the people in any country.
>
>
> Hiding an economical deficit by creating a bigger event for the press,
heating
> nationalism with hitleresque paroles, allows Bush to enforce laws that in
a
> normal situation no American would have accepted - but those who believe
him
> believe that those laws are necessary too and will silently accept them,
or
> even cheer for more control of the state over the citizens. This is
exactly
> the scheme how the nazis could take over germany, the scene is very
similar.
>
>
> The USA with a regime like "our" nazis will be way more dangerous though
as
> there is no one left to take over the role of the USA in 1917 or 1943.
>
>
> sw chris wrote:
:P
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Mar 19, 2003, 1:45am
Oil smoil. Investigate France and Russia. They're the ones with the oil
for food contracts.
Chris
[View Quote]"swe" <swe at swe-e.com> wrote in message
news:3e7738ab$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> funny how only the non-americans reliese these type of things isnt it?
> and it was known from the begining, bush was gonna start a war with iraq
> even if they took thier weapons and shoved them half-way up thier butts
and
> span on them. its not about the weapons, it probably just that bush simply
> doesnt like saddam, or bush wanting to indirectly take over iraq for its
oil
> (more likely).
>
> and the whole thing about atacking after the destuction of weapons, which
> ananas mentioned, is quite a cowardly thing to do....
>
>
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Mar 19, 2003, 1:55am
I believe you 100% joker ss. But you dodged the question. :)
Chris
[View Quote]"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> i replied cause he said Iraq is a threat to the USA ,which it isnt . how i
> feel about the USA ? same as any other country in the world , i dont judge
> on few ppl like bush , you cna try to blame us for being anti american all
> you like , we arent .
>
>
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Mar 19, 2003, 1:56am
It would be prudent and wise in my opinion for everyone to not throw insults
like this back and forth.
Just let their actions speak for themselves.
Chris
[View Quote]"binarybud" <leo at realPANTStourvision.com> wrote in message
news:3e7797ab$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> FYI i'm not pissed heheheheh and i love it when people with very little
thinking power on their own are exposed for the fluff they are.
>
> "the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3e7783d4 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Mar 19, 2003, 2:00am
But in what cases? I think it has gone with the courts on several
occasions. I recall something being mentioned about agriculture production
in one of my economics classes but I'm not sure.
Chris
[View Quote]"ryan jacob" <ryan_jacob at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The US never submitted to an International Court and I think that was a
> rather good decision.
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
> news:3e77e1fa at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> its
> news:3E776896.14721C2A at oct31.de...
> well
respect
contracts
> in
very
> respect
contracts
>
>
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Mar 20, 2003, 3:59am
When? That's too general.
Chris
[View Quote]"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message news:3E781157.E84B7001 at oct31.de...
> War issues mostly. US soldiers cannot be held responsible for
> their crimes against International Law they did during wars.
>
>
> sw chris wrote:
its
news:3E776896.14721C2A at oct31.de...
well
respect
contracts in
very
respect
contracts
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Mar 20, 2003, 4:03am
Attend a government class and maybe you'll understand. :)
[View Quote]"swe" <swe at swe-e.com> wrote in message
news:3e78803d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> whats up with americans and thier love for themselfs? jeeze, america is
not
> the center of the world, and the UN would do much better at making
peaceful
> resoultions if america wasnt in it anyway! oh, and britain can go aswell,
> hell all they do is agree with what america has to say.
> as for the building, bush can take it, sit on it, and spin on it for all
> anyone would care!
>
> "ryan jacob" <ryan_jacob at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3e77e177$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
we
money
> established.
> the
> news:3E77658E.C9D3EF01 at oct31.de...
> well
respect
> in
he
> is
will
prove
> is
> You
problem
>
>
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Mar 20, 2003, 4:16am
Thank you for finally bringing some sense to this... discussion...
debate... thing. I'm glad that we can finally hear personally from someone
who's been though it. Experience, however unfortunate that word is in this
case, is the key to understanding situations like this. I'm glad that you
were able to survive.
Chris
[View Quote]"baron sweetman" <petrossadeletethis at msn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9343DEAA3C135petrossa at 64.94.241.201...
> "count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in
> news:3e789cb8$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:
>
>
> I am dutch, i lived in the middle east in the the 70's, i've been bombed
> and hid in bombshelters. If i can choose between a corrupt and cynical
> 'leader' of Europe like France or Germany, or an airhead like Bush i'll
> choose Bush anyday. Do we all forget where France was during the second
> world war? Do we remember where the US was in those years?
>
> I am frankly much more scared of a world where France is the leader then
> where a cowboy is the leader.
>
> did anyone ever read about the corruption of Chirac? How he only escapes
> prosecution because he is the president? Do we recognise the vast
> financial interests France has in Iraq? How Chirac until recently
> greeted Saddam as ' a personal friend?'
>
> Sure US cant wash its hands in innocence, their using Saddam as a pawn
> against Iran we all remember. But if i have to choose between the gain
> of removing Saddam and scaring the shit out of the other extremist
> countries or leting France keep us on the road of complacency to further
> their interest of 7 billion dollar development contracts i'll choose the
> cowboy anyday.
>
> For sure the cowboy needs a braintransplant, but i'd rather see the
> middle east kick started into the present, instead of trying to placate
> the inplacable.
>
>
>
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