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Mar 6, 2003, 10:44pm
Yeah... what's your point? :)
Chris
[View Quote]"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message news:3E67B9A0.FFEE7357 at oct31.de...
> Mesopotamien is the source of most known culture and Mesopotamien
> has been where the Iraq is now
>
>
> sw chris wrote:
Taliban.
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Mar 6, 2003, 10:46pm
[X] And you take things too seriously.
The Taliban is based in Afghanistan. You may not know this, but within a
year before September 11, the Taliban destroyed two giant Buddha statues. I
was making a comparison. And you know this. But you're being facetious and
dragging the topic off course to deflect the fact that I'm right.
Chris
[View Quote]"kf" <none at junk.mail> wrote in message news:3E67BA8B.66AF at junk.mail...
> A lot of culture will be destroyed by bombs? Sure, if you're the
> Taliban. But I think Rumsfeld is a little more concerned about hitting
> military targets than Budha statues. You're speaking from hearsay.
> Stick to the facts. Not the What-ifs.
> <<<
>
> [ ] You got an excellent knowledge about religion in Iraq
> [X] You can spell Taliban correctly
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Mar 6, 2003, 10:51pm
Um... Blix said nothing of the sort. If you think he did, prove it. Get me
the transcript.
US still has proof, but isn't claiming they are going to present it. In
fact, they're saying quite the opposite, that thye want to hold their cards
close to the chest.
And UN Resolution 1441 which was passed in November called for the
disarmament of all of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. What Blix thinks
doesn't really matter.
Chris
[View Quote]"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> USA have claimed before thay had proof of NBC weapons , they showed it to
> the UN councill , and blix said they werent any proof . and i dont hear
the
> USA claiming about having any proof now? and Blix , the hea didnspector
only
> decided about a week ago , that those rockets have to be destroyed , iraq
> does so .
>
>
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Mar 6, 2003, 10:56pm
Fine. So? The burden of proof is on Saddam. He's the one who's skin is
going to get fileted. He's the one who's supposedly in possession of these
things. The idiot had a chance to declare all of his weapons, mass
destruction or not, in December. But he didn't. And he knew he wasn't.
And now we find he's got weapons he didnt' declare. You think we should
trust this man? Again, I say the burden of proof is on Saddam. He's got to
prove it.
Chris
[View Quote]"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> and this resolution is being followed , as the inspectors say , no NBC
> weapons have been found , and there is no proof of it . iraq even destroys
> non NBC weapons as being asked ( al samud rockets ) . and the only comment
> from the US gouverment is , "its not good enough , they dont do whats
> requested ...." .
>
>
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Mar 7, 2003, 9:13pm
What news you been reading? He's been complaining but the UN doesn't
listen.
Chris
[View Quote]"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> it does , cause blix is the one that will say if iraq does what the
> resolution says or not , and till now , he aint complaining
>
>
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Mar 7, 2003, 9:14pm
The fact that they found them means I'm right.
Chris.
[View Quote]"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> no one found any NBC weapons till now
>
>
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Mar 7, 2003, 9:15pm
That wall would suit me just fine. But people won't stay out!
Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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> LOL.
>
> I serously think they should build a wall around USA. Then people could
live
> in their never-never land for themselves.
> It do not take any other country to kill the cits of USA, they shoot
> eachother in the name of freedoom ( some 14 000 ppl are shot to death
> yearly).
> I really hope USA would some day understand that we do not want their shit
> here; we have enough of shit of our own.
> Keep your violence and rap-music, god damn it !
>
> Drac
> the joker ss <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e681999$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> again
>
>
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Mar 7, 2003, 9:31pm
What the hell? This arguement isn't against war anymore. It's turned
anti-american again. Look pal, I don't like rap music either, but shit, the
government isn't perpetrating that. Get your facts straight and _try_ to
look through a neutral lens when you accuse us common folk of something that
greedy media moguls spread around.
And you know what? This entire front against taking out Saddam is about two
things. Money, and anti-Americanism. You know why? For the first reason,
nobody in their right mind would want to keep Saddam in power unless the guy
was paying someone off! For the second reason, every time someone complains
about the coalition, it's USA this, USA that. NEVER do I hear one word
about Spain, Britain, or Austalia! For the love of God! I don't like being
attacked! What did we, the general American populace, do to you? You may
not want to wish us bodily harm, but your bleeding heart anarchist and
Anti-American nonsense drives me insane.
A pox upon your 'stache.
And grow a brain! I wish people would use some common sense and stop
looking at this through nationalistic eyes. The last time I checked, if for
no other reason, the mandate of the UN is to stamp out evil wherever it
exists in the interests of securing peace. All I see are Europeans wanting
peace at any cost. That isn't peace at all! It's a god-damn politburo.
If this keeps up I'm moving to Australia or Britain just because I'm afraid
that you Europeans will invade! And for no good reason other than "We hate
you". But at least I could take comfort in _that_ hypocracy.
Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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> Could it be that there is more cars and people in Europe?
> I do not know where you found these facts, but I will not argue them,
> however, accidents and murders are not quite the same thing.
> I do not see how drinking justify shooting anyone?
>
> Drac
> bowen <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com.ANTISPAM> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e68b384$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
could
> live
> accidents than
deaths
> by guns
a
> car
>
>
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Mar 7, 2003, 9:32pm
Iraq was never a threat until after September 11, which happened SIX MONTHS
after Bush took office. Go back and read your newspapers.
Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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> I just find it suspisious that as soon as you get a new president, Iraque
> turns into a danger over one night.
> How come USA did not attack 1 year ago or 2 years ago?
> So basically, if you can have waited 2-3 years, a few months more will not
> hurt, will it ?
>
> Drac
> bowen <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com.ANTISPAM> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e68b315$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> anything in a
> their weapons,
> too and is
> and moving
> Bush for just
> the _end_ of
> guy on the
>
>
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Mar 7, 2003, 9:34pm
btw... Iraq was also an interest before Bush took office. Oh, right. I
forgot. Your media looked the other way and didn't even bother to report
President Clinton's bombings in that country.
I don't get it. You're fine with a lieing lady's man and not a Cowboy who
wouldn't even think of seducing an intern. Crazy. :P
Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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> I just find it suspisious that as soon as you get a new president, Iraque
> turns into a danger over one night.
> How come USA did not attack 1 year ago or 2 years ago?
> So basically, if you can have waited 2-3 years, a few months more will not
> hurt, will it ?
>
> Drac
> bowen <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com.ANTISPAM> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e68b315$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> anything in a
> their weapons,
> too and is
> and moving
> Bush for just
> the _end_ of
> guy on the
>
>
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Mar 7, 2003, 9:35pm
Oh yeah that makes sense. Who's Australia's current enemy?
Chris
[View Quote]"just in" <anon at no.spam..com> wrote in message
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> A theory on political leadership: If you have no enemies make one up,
> because if you do not, the enemy becomes you.
>
> Put more simply... Americans want something to attack - they need an
> enemy. If they do not get one they will attack their own government.
>
> Bush wants a second term in Government.
>
> ~ Justin
>
>
> "ubermonkey" <henry at wcalliance.com> wrote in message
> news:3e6808b8 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Mar 7, 2003, 9:36pm
He's an Aussie. Half of them like us, the other half don't.
Chris
[View Quote]"carolann" <carolannh at charter.net> wrote in message
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> Please elaborate. It can't possible mean what it sounds like. But in case
it
> does, please state your nationality so I can come back with an equally
> all-encompassing, oversimplified, imbalanced, unfair, generalized
come-back
> about your people. Thank you.
>
> "just in" <anon at no.spam..com> wrote in message
> news:3e684687 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
game.
>
>
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Mar 7, 2003, 9:37pm
Dude, that's a lobbying group. Give us a website that is fair and
objectionable and you might have something.
Chris
[View Quote]"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message news:3E6813AA.BF8C715D at oct31.de...
> Actually not a reply, I just wanted to add one more
> intesting link to this discussion :
>
> http://www.waronwant.org
>
> and especially this page :
>
> http://www.waronwant.org/?lid=3583
>
> If you have read this, those who do not understand
> already might get an idea who the real aggressor is.
>
> I found the link through http://www.attac.org/ btw.
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:22am
Um.. how can I hate you? My religion, My God, and myself won't let me.
But to say that there is no good or evil, which is what you are saying when
there is no difference between a police officer and a psycho murderer, is to
deny that one is human.
Religion is not the number one killer. It is not the scourge of the
universe. The hypocracies of the people who practice it are.
I don't speak from anger or hatred. Only from irritation at a genuine sense
of confusion of the hatred shown toward me. Unearned and unasked for.
How do I know what is good and which is evil? Listen to your surroundings
and your self, and if you believe in God, him as well, and you will know.
Logic is not a god. You cannot explain instinct and the innate sense that
each of us is given to use or ignore as we please. Moral relativism is only
dot-print; thousands of black and white dots that when looked at from far
away form only a grey area. Look closer, deep within oneself, and you will
see that there is a truth for everything.
For me, I continue that search daily.
Chris
[View Quote]"ubermonkey" <monkey at monkey.com> wrote in message
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> [I would like to point out that, though there is a lot of second-person
text
> here, I am not implying anything about the person I'm replying to, as I
> don't know him well enough to do such a thing. It's directed at all of
> humanity, of which I imagine a number of you are a part. English does not
> provide a reasonable 2nd-person plural pronoun (I nominate, "a'yo'ple [all
> you people]" because it sounds funny, and languages should be funny. Like
> Japanese. Hai!)]
>
>
>
> If this was true, the UN would currently be leading the campaign against
> organized religion, the #1 cause of evil, not to mention all world
> governments, corporations, industry, all those hideous mutants you see
when
> you go outside anywhere (aka police, businessmen, tweakers, coke-heads...
> the list goes on), and so forth. The methods they really employ are much
> like current medicinal tactics; heal the symptoms, screw the patient.
>
> Hopefully I've just insulted almost everyone, and if not, I'll surely try
> again in the future, because the people of this world need a serious
wakeup
> call to realize just how bad a situation they've gotten themselves into.
> Psycho-murderer and police officer are just two sides of the same idea,
much
> like God/Satan. The repressive ways in which we're all living create the
> psycho through years of subtle, festering mental torture, which eventually
> causes innate creativity (whatever that really is) to erupt in the form of
> hideous acts of violence (either to another, or the self, in the form of
> drug abuse usually (this includes watching TV and obsessive manners of
> thought.. abusing your own endorphin system, effectively)).
>
> What, you think your social institutions are doing a good job?
> Then answer me this: Why are you all so pissed off all the time, hanging
on
> the edge of violence, ready to snap at the first sign of irritation? Why
> does everyone become old and feeble before their times? Why do almost all
> parents mistreat their children horribly in the name of "teaching" them?
> What are you trying to figure out with all this rambling intellectual
> interface? The SECRETS OF THE UNIVERSE? If that's it, then I can give you
> that right now: The secret is... ::leans in close:: There is no secret.
Your
> religions are based on 2000-year-old satire (everyone forgot to laugh
> eventually), your moral beliefs are an absurd recreation in memory of a
time
> when humans could feel real emotions.
>
> Go ahead and hate me, I couldn't care less. In fact, if hatred for me or
the
> others like me (and believe me, there are a good number. I think it's
> genetic. =D) allows you to get in touch with some genuine emotion, then BY
> ALL MEANS, hate away!! But stop worrying yourselves over the childish
games
> of your long, LONG dead ancestors. Stop listening to the words of
> half-zombified old babies in suits and go outside. See the sun, be glad
you
> ever had the chance to open your eyes and stop holding on to everything so
> tightly.
>
>
> Live now. You'll never get another chance, and you'll never forgive
yourself
> if you miss it.
> MoNKeY!
>
>
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:23am
It seems I was not able to edit my reply in time. :) It stands as is. I
dont' deny it. Read my reply to yours in my new post below this one.
Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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>
> sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e6adaad$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> the
>
> There might be good and evil, the problem just is knowing which is
> which.What about if the things we belive is good is actually evil and vice
> verse? What is evil or good for me might not be it for another person. I
> would not want to be the person who would need to make a definitive
choose;
> I have opionons, yes, but they might be wrong.
>
> Drac
>
>
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:25am
Why does it matter? :)
Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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> Well, I have about 30 cars, but I am only capable of driving one at time.
> The population in Europen Union countries are 377 591 700 and in Europe in
> total 798 651 700; in USA 287 524 300, the entire american continent of
> course much more.
>
> Drac
> bowen <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com.ANTISPAM> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e6aa222 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> kids.
>
>
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:29am
And for war as well. That reply was surprising Ananas. Thanks for that.
My respect for you grows even more. :)
I don't understand why people have to generalize and point fingers at
country and nationality. But there must be some sense in this world yet.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message news:3E6A5E38.ACB3EEFC at oct31.de...
> Oh, come on - this is not really fair.
>
> Just because those war-crazy idiots like [short namelist removed]
> have a bigger mouth than those many others who think that war is
> wrong, this should not cover all of America. I posted several links
> here already that show how many people in _all_ countries - including
> UK and USA - are against war.
>
>
>
> count dracula wrote:
trick
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:32am
Idiot.
Here's what happened. September 11 happened. Bush declares war on
terrorism, NOT Al Qaeda, which was responsible for the attacks. That means
all terrorists and their allies or would-be allies. That includes Saddam.
And that's the reasoning. It's not finishing up daddy's business. That's a
stupid reason. I can't believe you don't know this. Or maybe I can. Every
other reply you've given (well almost, that one up there about moral
relativism was pretty good, kudos) is way beyond even the european
definition of "liberal".
SW Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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> Wait wait! So it is a revench for what happend September 11th; not about
the
> claimed massdestruction weapons?
> So Iraque is responsible for some Saudi-arabian terrorists, living in
> Afganistan flying planes into a skyscraper in USA?
> I wonder if I could blame my aunt who has no car or driverslicense, for
the
> scratching of my car that happened in a parking place in another city,,, I
> guess i could yes,,IF I was a republican *G*
>
> Drac
> sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e692c0d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> MONTHS
> Iraque
> not
> do
destroyed
> that
> hiding
of
> during
> nicest
> see.
>
>
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:34am
They've been the enemy for 12 years, kiddo. Even President Clinton will
attest to that. Remember him? He used to be so buddy buddy with a lot of
European leaders. ;)
Chris
[View Quote]"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> its the same dictator for more thne 20 years , and suddenly they are the
> enemy ? wow , awesome logic behind all this
>
>
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:35am
I'm not even gonna comment on that one, Professor.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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>
> sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e692c7f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
report
>
> Yes we remember that, that was also a war that left the kurds on their own
> for Saddam to kill; after USA had promised support for them. Maybe we
> learned something from that war and do not want it again just because of
it.
who
>
> What can I say. I would prefer Bush fucking everyone in the whitehouse
> instead of the entire world.
> I do not see what is so bad with 2 adults having sex; bad is the media
> circus afterwards and a million dollar investigation.
> Maybe someone should get Bush a Monica also, maybe he would forget his
> agressions for a while then ?
>
> Drac
> Iraque
> not
> do
destroyed
> that
> hiding
of
> during
> nicest
> see.
>
>
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:35am
What failings?
Chris
[View Quote]"just in" <anon at no.spam..com> wrote in message
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> Repeating, the reason Bush wants to go to war is to divert attention from
> his own failings and being attacked by his own media and public. If he
can
> divert America's hate away from himself all the better. Diverting
> American's attention toward a terrorist or an evil dictator is very easy
> propaganda. There are many more advantages to Bush in attacking Iraq, not
> the least of which is the control of oil in the region.
>
> The same does not apply to Australia's prime minister John Howard, who
> thinks it is in Australias interest to do whatever USA is doing. The main
> reason for that is for future trade opportunities. Blair is in the same
> boat with Howard.
>
> In summary, Bush's motivations are about popularity within his own
country.
> Howard's are about wealth. Either way, both are uncommendable.
>
> There are far better solutions for Iraq than going in there and blowing it
> and the government away. Many countries have removed evil governments
> without some other country intervening by going to war with it.
>
> Regards, Justin
>
>
>
> "carolann" <carolannh at charter.net> wrote in message
> news:3e68671d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
case
> it
> come-back
> game.
>
>
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:36am
This war is making him more unpopular. Look at the polls. What have you
been reading?
Chris
[View Quote]"just in" <anon at no.spam..com> wrote in message
news:3e6962fa at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Repeating, the reason Bush wants to go to war is to divert attention from
> his own failings and being attacked by his own media and public. If he
can
> divert America's hate away from himself all the better. Diverting
> American's attention toward a terrorist or an evil dictator is very easy
> propaganda. There are many more advantages to Bush in attacking Iraq, not
> the least of which is the control of oil in the region.
>
> The same does not apply to Australia's prime minister John Howard, who
> thinks it is in Australias interest to do whatever USA is doing. The main
> reason for that is for future trade opportunities. Blair is in the same
> boat with Howard.
>
> In summary, Bush's motivations are about popularity within his own
country.
> Howard's are about wealth. Either way, both are uncommendable.
>
> There are far better solutions for Iraq than going in there and blowing it
> and the government away. Many countries have removed evil governments
> without some other country intervening by going to war with it.
>
> Regards, Justin
>
>
>
> "carolann" <carolannh at charter.net> wrote in message
> news:3e68671d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
case
> it
> come-back
> game.
>
>
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:48am
Well, look at who's tossing the arguements. Draco over here is a
self-proclaimed left-wing nut and I have strong suspicions that he's also
anarchist/socialist/communist/take-your-pick. Then you have joker, who is
only a kid and doesn't really know what he's saying. But then you got some
smart people. Ananas, for example. I don't really agree with him most of
the time but at least he's thought this thing through. And Justin... well
he seems to think things through but he's only started piping up on this
issue. So I won't place him in any category just yet. :P Justin has
always shown reason in past situations though.
On on the other side... (these are blatantly biased)
Me. I think things through and back them up with facts. I can dismiss
frivoulous arguments and at the same time provide my own special blend of
candor. Bowen also thinks things through and backs things up with facts,
and follows frivolous arguments around to no end, often leading count
dracula around in circles, although who's leading who sometimes gets
confusing. Carolann, with her own brand of dry wit provides points that are
succinct and to the point. She thinks things through and is always right.
;)
There are other people, but there's so many threads now that I can't read
them all! :P
Chris
SW Chris
[View Quote]"carolann" <carolannh at charter.net> wrote in message
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> Australian huh?
>
> Ok now so that I may be totally fair and impartial in my own simple-minded
> stereotypical come-back to you Justin, I first need some background
> information. What vicious and brutal crimes were your ancestors convicted
> of? On the other hand if you are Aborigine, please do not consume your
> translator until he or she explains my post to you.
>
> Disclaimer: That was for illustration purposes only. It in no way reflects
> my views, real or imagined.
>
> Generally speaking, before AW, I had no idea that 100% of US citizens were
> held accountable for the actions of the worst, and I did not have my head
> buried in the sand. Any citizen of a foreign country that I had the
pleasure
> to meet face to face treated me with respect as an individual and as an
> American. Could it be that true colors of those who love to breed hate and
> contempt are only shown when he or she (though I don't generally hear it
> from "she's") can be hidden behind the text in a news group or some
equally
> safe place? I had no idea that each of our citizens was considered only as
> good as the ones among us that are generally considered less than
desirable
> by the rest of the world and other US citizens as well. If a chain is
> considered only as strong as it's weakest link, it is the whole world that
> is falling apart, not just the US.
>
> Out of curiosity, I've been reading some of the foreign (to me) online
> newspapers from around the world pertaining to Iraq and related subjects
and
> it's amazing the different slant each of them has to some degree or
another.
> How come only US (based) news, especially CNN, is considered to be holding
> back or stating untruths but yet many accounts from many different
countries
> are quite varied themselves? But more than that, why do I often see it
said
> that this or that non-US government official or spokesman of some sort or
> other "told CNN news" some statement or other if CNN achieves no respect
as
> a non-biased and accurate news service? Do you really think that CNN would
> get away with miss-quoting Hans Blix, for example?
>
> Case in point: this week in a private commercial US establishment 2 men
wore
> anti-war shirts and some privately hired security people at this
> establishment told the men to remove the shirts or leave. The men refused
so
> police were called who had to, because it was private property, make the 2
> men comply. Now get this.... I saw this news story in foreign (to me) news
> accounts as government oppression and relating to lack of free speech, as
if
> the government disallowed the men to protest by wearing the shirts. The
> government had nothing to do with it nor did the police department except
as
> "defenders" of private property.....it was the property owner's right to
> allow or disallow these men on his property no matter how petty the
reason.
> Now if that wasn't twisting the news, and our government policies, I sure
> don't know what is. The US has held as many anti-war demonstrations as
> anyone else and no one tried to stop them. Both sides have the right to be
> heard.
>
> Why do we here playing around in AW think we are smarter than those who
took
> the initiative to "run the world"? Even among those men and women there
will
> be good and bad, effective and not so effective and every shade in
> between-from all countries-at one time or the other. But it is true that
we
> do only know what we read or see on the news for the most part so lets not
> cut each other down based on the worst news stories you can find. And
don't
> ever, ever rate all citizens by what some news service says about their
> country's politics until you have heard from every single last one of
them.
>
> If the US haters out there are any indication of world sentiment, things
> will never change. Why do you think your statements of disgust and spewing
> of, in many cases, misinformation will help? Shouldn't trust and
> understanding start with individuals? Of course every one won't qualify,
but
> none will if you base your opinion on the worst thing you can think of as
a
> matter of course.
>
>
> Chris
>
> "carolann" <carolannh at charter.net> wrote in message
> news:3e68671d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
case
> it
> come-back
>
>
>
>
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:50am
At least he can walk away and not pursue things around endlessly.
Chris
[View Quote]"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> lol , first one who gives up
>
>
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:52am
Only if it's on a "kill or be killed" basis. A lot of people believe this
is the case with the United States. Basic law of survival.
Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
news:3e69058a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I am ready to do the same bid with you as with Chris about the dancing in
> streets.
> Good old USA is not excatly what USA is refered to in muslims countries
*g*
> So basically you are saying it is ok for us to kill anyone who is a
> potential treat to us ?
>
> Drac
> binarybud <leo at realPANTStourvision.com> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e68e67e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> neighbors...and he is also a threat to US interests he';s said so
himself.
let
> ya kill yourselves.
> are dancing in the streets thanking the good ole USA for getting rid of
> Saddam....mark my word and leave it at that you'll never see the light
till
> the dust clears..you haven no forsite.
> news:3e68e156 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> bookshoop
> need
> USA
if
long
> way
>
>
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:52am
Child... look at Afghanistan. The war against Iran was a full 20 to 30
years ago. Things change. Times change.
Chris
[View Quote]"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> threat to his nieghbours ? in the first gulf war agianst iran , it was the
> USA who supported iraq fully . and who are you to go into a different
> country and put in a new gouverment ?
>
>
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:54am
I would like to say that the reason I support war is precisely for those
children. At least if you believe the Iraqi women exiles who went to the
White House last week.
Chris
[View Quote]"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message news:3E68EDCB.C9AA2069 at oct31.de...
> Interesting, which interests does the US have in Iraq?
> Hussein did nothing outside of his country, the weapons are not
> prooved, the Arab countries are interested in solving the problem
> their own way, Turkey might be interested in joining the attack.
>
> Children in Iraq have only little chance to survive, theirs is an
> interest that counts. People in Iraq are interested in food and
> medicine which is blocked since 10 years. This interest counts too.
> Muslim countries are interested in having no capitalistic armies
> in their countries, an interest I can understand and accept.
>
> But what are the interests of the USA in this region of the world?
>
>
> binarybud wrote:
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:57am
Yes well the UN is the number one contributer to death and destruction since
its formation and has much more blood on its hands than on US hands. I
mean, who would you trust more if it came down to that simple fact? Too bad
it doesn't, or we wouldn't be here arguing! :P
Chris
[View Quote]"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> but isnt it up to the UN and the inspectors to say if he disarms or not ?
>
>
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:58am
It's been up to us to decide since it's in conflict of our national
security.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
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> And who says it is up to USA to decide?
> What if Japan suddenly decide that Mexico is a treat to them and decide
they
> will bomb it, will USA just sit and watch as they expect the rest of world
> to do now? Probably USA would ask for some proofs, right? Japan would say:
> yes we have proofs but we will not present them to you. I bet USA would
say:
> ok, then it is justified to bomb Mexico,,,
>
> Drac
>
> binarybud <leo at realPANTStourvision.com> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e68d31f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
guess
> THEY are not the ones to deside huh?
> news:3e68d1ac at server1.Activeworlds.com...
not
> ?
>
>
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Mar 9, 2003, 4:59am
Tell that to Mogadishu.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"just in" <anon at no.spam..com> wrote in message
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> Here's the thing...
>
> Its so possible just to butt the heck out and leave the country to sort
out
> its own problems. (Sure if they then go attacking a neighbouring country
go
> defend it.)
>
> What happens then is the population obey their dictator and struggle
along,
> but stay alive and most are happy. Some disobey or protest too loudly and
> are horribly treated. World outcry and non-violent protest beat their
> drums. Slowly but surely, like dozens of examples around the world, the
> country pushes toward economic viabilty and democracy and an honest
> government.
>
> You do not need to attack to fix things.
>
> Regards, Justin
>
>
> "count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
> news:3e68e273$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> they
world
say:
> say:
> guess
> not
>
>
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