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Sep 17, 2001, 10:58pm
It's also in every other newsgroup. Besides, you're about 16 days too late.
:(
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Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
[View Quote]"reyemniffirg" <gwydionaw at gmx.net> wrote in message
news:3ba689da at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Ryan - please do not post this kind of stuff in a ng like this, save it
for
> the General newsgroup, this is a wishlist ng.
>
> r y a n <birkin at ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:3b90a55e at server1.Activeworlds.com...
aaswell,
> you....
>
>
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Sep 2, 2001, 4:29am
In my experience with niche communities... and I've been in several.. the
more diversified a community gets, the more it seems to want to fall apart.
But it doesn't. And for what reason I'm still trying to find out. :)
SW Chris
[View Quote]"zero" <slavezero at dmonix.net> wrote in message
news:3b919d16 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> You know they should rename the AW Newsgroups, VR Idiots.
> Even out of the most intelligent, to the most mundane I have not seen such
> immaturity, rudeness, lack of human compassion.
>
> All you people all do is whine and whine and moan and groan and gripe and
> spam, and bash and stab, and flame.
>
> Its absolutely unbelievable, and you all say Eep is bad (which he is).
>
> I left the newsgroups for a while cause of all this, now I come back and
> they are even less useful than they were before.
>
> Maybe AWLD doesn't implement half the stuff you want and cry for cause
they
> look at the posts and think, "My God.. this is the intelligent
> representation of our clients?"
> I mean don't get me wrong there is from time to time someone who is nice
> (more than a few) who asks the simplest (or complex) of questions, and
they
> get reamed for it.
> From Newbies to the most veteran Users.
>
> You people should scroll back and find a couple of posts that actually
made
> it for more than like 4 postings and didn't turn into an insulting flame
> war.
>
> Man you people make me sad, no wonder this program has a hard time getting
> anywhere.
>
> grow up a little please.
>
> Z!
>
>
>
>
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Sep 5, 2001, 2:07pm
I would say that's a pipe dream for any culture that is mingling with people
from another. Here's an idea... World Peace. =)
SW Chris
[View Quote]"casay" <casay2 at home.com> wrote in message
news:3b91a239 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Novel concept there Zero....expecting people to be civil to each other.
> ;-) Unfortunately for these NG's anymore it's a pipe dream....
>
> Casay
>
> "zero" <slavezero at dmonix.net> wrote in message
> news:3b919d16 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
such
and
> they
> they
> made
getting
>
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Sep 4, 2001, 3:17pm
Um... that... doesn't bring a very nice mental picture.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"gamer" <Robbie at AWlife.net> wrote in message
news:3b94fc5e at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Fook....oh well *walks off to NekraNoX, leaves photos of ABP and Nornny in
a
> sleepign bag together for AWNews.com to pick up*
>
>
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Sep 5, 2001, 7:49pm
Well, we kind of had it in for everyone from the start. :) Syntax and I
were working together from the beginning. I guess it was Syntax who came up
with the idea, and I thought it was spot on. :) As we learned from
Survivor 2, two heads are better than one. The real trick was surviving
until our tribes merged, and then it was smooth sailing. I think we both
contributed to our conquest equally, and I'm glad for that.
My full comments are being withheld until after the season finale for some
reasons that I'm not exactly sure of... But anywho. On with the show!
SW Chris
[View Quote]"nornny" <Nornny1 at home.com> wrote in message
news:3b9413c0 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Eep Probst: Last time on Survivor...
>
> <video montage plays>
>
> Eep Probst: Tony's sudden resignation means the game fell down to two
> Factors and 1 Typo, SW Chris, Syntax, and Gamer. It was time to trek up to
> tribal council cliff and play the last challenge, trivia.
>
> Eep Probst: After heartstopping numbers correct answers and a jury in need
> of one more watching behind, Gamer was eliminated from winning immunity by
> one question. SW Chris and Syntax got all questions correct and it came
down
> to one tiebreaker question:
>
> Eep Probst: What week did this game start...
>
> Eep Probst: So, enough with the suspense, let's get back into the game...
>
> <survivor opening theme plays>
>
> <cut to tribal council scene>
>
> Eep Probst: SW Chris, we'll start with you.
>
> SW Chris: Um... *takes a stab in the dark*
>
> SW Chris: April 16, this year...
>
> Eep Probst: Syntax?
>
> Syntax: May 12th was the date the game started.
>
> Gamer: *stares on*
>
> Eep Probst: The game started in the month of May. SW Chris, you are
> incorrect, Syntax, you have the closest date and win immunity.
> Congratulations, your immunity streak has carried you through into the
Final
> Two.
>
> Syntax: YEEESSS!!!!
>
> Eep Probst: But now, it's time for the last tribal council. The jury is in
> place. SW Chris and Gamer, you automatically must vote for each other
since
> you cannot vote for yourself. Syntax, you as the swing voter and immunity
> holder will decide the fate of these two. Please go to the voting area and
> cast your FINAL vote.
>
> Syntax: *walks past jury up bridge to voting area*
>
> SW Chris and Gamer: *looks down disappointingly and prays*
>
> <tribal council music>
>
> <cut to voting booth>
>
> Syntax: *holds up piece of paper and whispers* Hardest vote yet, but, I
> decided to do it. Sorry. :-( *walks back*
>
> Jury: *sits in silence and watches Syntax return*
>
> Eep Probst: I'll make this quick. The first, last, and only vote
tonight....
>
> Eep Probst: Gamer.
>
> <tribal council climax plays>
>
> Gamer: *looks down, then stands up and hugs the other two players and goes
> to Eep*
>
> Eep Probst: Gamer, please hand me your torch...*extinguishes flame*
>
> Jury: *huddles and talks*
>
> Eep Probst: Gamer, you are the last person to make up the jury.
> Congratulations SW Chris and Syntax, you ARE the final two survivors. One
of
> you will soon claim the Ultimate Prize and Title. Go back to camp and pack
> up the last of your belongings and say goodbye to the newsgroup game.
>
> Eep Probst: A jury of 7, 4 Factors, 3 Typos. Both the Factor and Typo
tribe
> live on, but which one will meet its death? Find out next, after this
> commercial break.
>
> --
> Gamer, Syntax, and SW Chris, please leave everyone with your Final Words
in
> the reply to this thread. Change the header to [NG Survivor] <name>'s
Final
> Words. Gamer, you will describe how you played the game and vent whatever
> you want. Syntax and SW Chris, share one last time your thoughts on the
game
> and how you think it will go.
>
> EVERYONE: Jury members. It's time to get together and deliberate. On
Sunday
> at 5pm vrt, you will convene in the world AWTeen at the location of the
> custom made NG Survivor set. The location will be hidden but ALL
contestants
> will be told the location of the set on THAT Sunday to come and watch the
> event. If I can get a cameraman in time (anyone out there interested?),
the
> audience will be watching from televisions sets throughout their home and
> see the season finale there. If I don't get cameramen, the location will
be
> revealed to ALL newsgroup readers before the event starts.
>
> Survivors: Since no one except for BirdMike has expressed that they can't
> make it, I hope to see the rest of you there. :) That's really it, hope
you
> can catch the fun. :)
>
> JURY MEMBERS: You all must think of ONE question to ask both survivors and
> anything you'd like to say for that Sunday. Communicate with each other so
> you don't end up asking the same question also. Come prepared to tribal
> council with that question, at least. You may all deliberate together and
> help each other decide on who to vote for. DO NOT talk to SW Chris or
Syntax
> this week or spill any votes.
>
> Also, if you'd like, you can write one last post by replying to this
thread
> with anything you'd like to say personally about the Final Two survivors.
Do
> not reveal who you're voting for or anything like that, just your
thoughts,
> how you are going to approach the final vote, and so forth. You can wish
the
> Final two good luck and yadda.
>
>
> SO, BE PREPARED FOR THE NEWSGROUP SURVIVOR SEASON FINALE AND SEE WHO WILL
BE
> DUBBED THE ULTIMATE SURVIVOR OF THE COMMUNITY NEWSGROUP!! 14 HAVE GONE
DOWN,
> 2 REMAIN, WHO WILL WIN?? MAKE YOUR BETS AND LOG ONTO
> http://www.awlife.net/survivor/ngsurvivor AND PARTICIPATE IN THE MINI
POLLS.
> ;)
>
>
>
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Sep 10, 2001, 4:44pm
Whoever makes the bot shouldn't have it on his hard drive. Instead someone
else should host and it make sure the author doesn't have access to it.
Then I might consider it.
--
Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
[View Quote]cozmo" <b.nolan2 at verizon.net> wrote in message
news:3b9d091a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Would you whisper your ppw to a bot ,so that a game or sort of RPG thing
> that required a bot for every person, so that you could play, becuase of
the
> issue of bot limits?
>
> Im doing research for a project im doing. The bot would store your ppw but
> in encrypted format anf it would be safe in your player profile file. I
> wouldn't look in it. Even if i did it would be a bunch of jibberish.
>
> Please don't flame or get offended i just want to hear what you have to
say.
> I have a bot limit for just enough for everyone in my world if it was
full.
> Plus one.
>
> --
> - Cozmo
> Of Cozmo-X
> World: A'Dude
> Co-owned world: Safira
>
>
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Sep 10, 2001, 11:26pm
How did you get over an 8 bot limit? I myself and stuck on 3. :|
--
Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
[View Quote]"cozmo" <b.nolan2 at verizon.net> wrote in message
news:3b9d1721$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> well i actualy wouldn't be looking at it and it would probly be encrypted
> like the Xelagot does in its av99bot or near that. But yes i understand
that
> even if i do say that i could be lieng. I don't blame you but this is the
> big question for me of weather or not i am able to do the project. Until
AW
> gives us more bot limits then most of us will hve this problem. I ether
use
> 8 of my bot slots for these bots and lose any extra bots, or special ones
> that enhance the feel of the "project" or i use the owners ppw and have 8
> extra slots. Although i would love to be able to do the second option i
know
> all the talk about stealing ppw's has been goign around and peopel don't
> like it. Sooo...i wanted to hear what you would say before i did anything
> else. Sod on't take it like i'm planning some major ppw stealing project
and
> seeing if people would do it.
>
> -Cozmo
>
> "brant" <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
> news:3b9d0a77$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
use
> quote
it.
> thing
becuase
> of
ppw
>
file.
> I
> to
was
>
>
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Sep 12, 2001, 7:51pm
Well how do you do that?
SW Chris
[View Quote]"mike zimmer" <zimmer at pitnet.net> wrote in message
news:3b9fd613 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I know that you can buy bot limit upgrades also
>
> cozmo <b.nolan2 at verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:3b9e59b1$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> understand
is
> Until
> ether
> have
option
> i
> don't
> project
the
> could
> stock
> Instead
> to
> RPG
> your
profile
you
> it
>
>
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Sep 10, 2001, 11:30pm
LOL. Are you implying that the community at large is full of hot air and
thus can float? ;)
--
Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
[View Quote]"wing." <wing at systemrecall.com> wrote in message
news:3b9d34ca at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> "Good evening, this is your captain speaking. Just gotta take care of a
few
> things here at the top of the flight. First, this is Activeworlds Airlines
> flight 375 from Corperate America to The Real World. If you're not going
> back to the real world, get the hell off of my plane.
>
> Secondly, please take note that there are no exits on this plane. You will
> be removed by men with welding torches once we land.
>
> Third, I hafta talk about in-flight emergencies. In case of loss of
> pressurization, a bong will drop from the ceiling. In case of a water
> landing, the AW Community at large may be used as a flotation device and
may
> be counted upon to deliver you to dry land and get you back on your feet.
>
> Finally, we will be departing as soon as I can weave this bird between all
> the private jets that dotcom instant millionaires bought and found they
> couldn't pay for and just left strewn all over the airfield. Thank you,
> enjoy your flight"
>
>
> "facter" <facter at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
> news:3b9d17a9 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> today,
For
and
the
alot.
> I
> and
do,
I
was
I
right
> by
;) ),
> and
on
rich
I
> plan
> the
that
> I
of
> alot
,
> believe
as
my
are
being
>
>
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Sep 10, 2001, 11:32pm
Ok, so it's outdated, but what about AW Ear? Wouldn't my firewall (Zone
Alarm) have asked if it wanted to act as a server when I ran it IF there was
a trojan in it?
--
Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
[View Quote]"bcg" <Aquisclone at aol.com> wrote in message
news:3b9d6339 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hello everyone,
>
> Yesterday and Today several worlds have been deleted using stolen
passwords
> (I believe the current count is 6). We know that at least one of them
(WAR)
> was deleted by a citizen named Radon, who used one of his bots which I was
> running to steal my AW pass from my computer. If you do not know Radon,
he
> recently made a program called AW Ear. I myself have stopped using, and
> removed all of the programs created by Radon. I recommend that anyone
who
> wants their password to be safe do so as well.
>
> BCG
>
>
>
>
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Sep 11, 2001, 2:00am
I do, but virus software doens't act as a firewall. At least my Mcafee
VirusScan doesn't.
Chris
[View Quote]"insanity" <peace at nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3B9D74A8.D8D76EB6 at nospam.com...
> Zone Alarm does not always detect the actions of backdoors. It is best to
use up
> to date virus software from major companies like Norton and Mcafee.
>
> http://worldhosting.heartfall.com
> http://pathservices.heartfall.com
>
>
> sw chris wrote:
>
was
was
Radon,
and
anyone
>
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Sep 16, 2001, 12:28am
I wouldn't put it past Wing if he did it earlier than a year ago. So don't
say Radon framed Wing, because it's possible that Wing could have done it.
But only Radon and Wing know. :)
SW Chris
[View Quote]"griffin page" <metallicat827 at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3BA40A6A.21308C07 at yahoo.com...
> Yeah he used to my friend too... in fact he was the one who blamed you
> for the vandalism in Utopia huh? Ill bet he did it himself to frame
> you.. the bastard (this is Legolas/Griffin 2101)
>
> wing. wrote:
days
old
was
Radon,
and
anyone
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Sep 11, 2001, 9:14pm
[View Quote]"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3b9e85d5 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hmmmm .... "join hands and PRAY for LOVE and PEACE. And when whoever is
> found that caused all of this mess they should be hunted down until dead."
> What an interesting concept of "LOVE and PEACE" you have. Did you think
this
> through before you posted it or did you simply want to get your holy
opinion
> in everyones face?
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What holy opinion? Are you perchance one of the less than 5% of the worlds'
population that actually believes there is no God or some radical left wing
Church/State separatist?
>
> Considering the huge loss of life and the global ramifications of the
> inevitable retaliation, I think it would be more prudent to keep your
> personal views to yourself and leave people to have their own private
> thoughts on the matter.
I believe that's what this thread was for... to express those throughts
>
> AW encompasses many different cultures, beliefs and sympathies, some of
> which are mutually exclusive. It IS a virtual community, free-er from the
> malices and persecutions present in the real world - based partly on
> escapism. While I share billions of other people's abhorence and
sympathies
> in this matter, this isn't the forum for anyone to get on their soap box
and
> push their beliefs, their politics and religious tendencies down the
throats
> of other members.
He is NOT pushing any beliefs, politics, or religious tendencies. He is NOT
saying that you have to pray, be saved, blah blah blah. What he is saying
is that whoever did this deserves justice and death. He is saluting those
who died and were injured today, and those who saved lives. You do the
people of the United States a disservice by posting this in this thread. If
you are looking to start a religious war, take it to Palestine where people
are dancing and celebrating in the streets. Now tone it down before I get
ticked off!
--
Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
Sep 12, 2001, 1:37am
Bloody hell then. Since you have all this pent up frustration with the
United States, don't take it out on JFK2. That's what I'm saying. Why
should the innocent pay for the perceived wrongs of a few? My government is
not at issue. It's not perfect. Nobody's is. If what you're saying is
that America was asking for it, I've got news for you.. Nobody deserves
what has happened today. I mean nobody. Ten thousand estimated dead I
wouldn't wish on Bin Laden himself. And those dead didn't even do anything!
All they did was show up to work.
Your attack on JFK2 and what you perceive to be his beliefs is at issue
here. Don't deflect attention from that.
--
Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
[View Quote]"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3b9ebdf8$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Oh well, here we go....
>
> First off, I meant no disservice to the US emergency services or the
people
> that were directly affected by the attack including the thousands of dead
> and injured. For some reason you chose to take the post that way, which
you
> are entitled to do I guess, but its dumb if you ask me - read the words.
And
> if you can find a "salute" to anything in the original post as opposed to
a
> reactionary rant, then well done!
>
> "5% of the worlds' population that actually believes there is no God"
> implies that you think that people's beliefs are black and white - one of
> the roots of extremist views in itself. I have no convictions either way
> about God's existence - but no God plays a part in my life. The two
> contentious lines of the post were just indicating my irritation that
those
> who DO feel the need to have a God in their life expect or call on others
to
> share their beliefs.
>
> I am mainstream English, lived in the UK all my life and as such am a
> supporter of Democracy and Capitalism. I am as shocked by this attrocity
as
> anyone - I spend 50% of my time working within 150 miles of NYC so its a
lot
> closer to home for me than it may initially seem.
>
> As for comments like "whoever did this deserves justice and death" is just
> hypocrytical. Whoever did this didn't do it just because they were bored
one
> Tuesday morning - they believe that the US has comitted a crime for which
> they feel they need to be punished. Even our western over-enthusiastic
media
> acknowledge this. The act itslef is extremism gone mad, but so is an
instant
> call for fatal retaliation except that can hide behind a semi-justifyable
> mask after the events.
>
> What scares me is what comes next ... Dubya will have the unconditional
> support of 80% of key European nations for both hunting down the culprits
> and, to some extent, in executing the retaliation. However, what the hell
is
> the US going to gain from taking out a few extremists? Very little I would
> imagine. Dubya has recently disclosed a list of what he discribes as
"Rogue
> States" ... basically Middle Eastern countries that he doesn't like
because
> they have a beef with the US. Its reasonably certain that the retaliation,
> in order to get the desired message across, will NOT be focussed to the
> perpetrators - it would have to be swift and it would have to be public.
The
> US have been here before (Reagan ... Tripoli ... no proof ... ring a
bell?),
> and THAT scares me because there are too many of these countries that
would
> love to join in the melee to get a piece of America for its trophy
cabinet.
> And guess what ... we ALL get dragged in!
>
> An extremist reaction to an extremist attack is going to cause more
problems
> in the long term than it solves in the short term. Time for Dubya to show
> that he has the balls to stand up to his Generals ... 'cuz otherwise we're
> all f**ked because you could see what the head of the Joint Chiefs was
> thinking when he said that the US military was "ready". They do like to
play
> with their maps and models those guys.
>
> BTW ... all the reports I have seen, on four different news channels,
> clearly stated that the vast majority of palestinians were NOT happy about
> either the attacks on the US or the impending retaliation. They are more
> concerned about the additional hell this will bring into their lives.
Israel
> already seem to have used the apparent need for increased security as an
> excuse to attack and take over a palestinian town. Any that were
> "celebrating" are no doubt pretty pissed that the US refuse to show an
even
> hand in the Middle East and condemn the attrocities performed BY Israel as
> well as those performed AGAINST Israel.
>
>
>
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Sep 12, 2001, 8:02pm
Punishment.
And I prefer to be called a patriot. Call that extremist if you wish, but
nationalism and patriotism aren't dead yet. I'm prideful of my country.
If there's one thing you haven't realized yet, is that for better or for
worse, you don't tell Americans what to do. They get defensive. Kind of
like I am. =P
My thoughts on this are as follows: I've waken up a bit to see what past
administrations have done. But it doesn't make sense to attack the
government. The government is run by the people. It should NOT be held
responsible for what a previous administration did. If one is upset about
something that happened in the past when the USA was under the helm of a
previous administration, take it out on the administration, not the federal
government. The government and the administration that drives it are two
different things. The government is the vehicle in which the administration
uses to get things done. That's how it works across the pond.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3b9f13c7 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Geesh! NO ... I'm just looking through all the single-minded crap that's
> going on right now. I appreciate that everyone in the US is horrified, as
> any nation would be at a time like this, but making calls-to-arms like
that
> is just plain narrow-minded and dumb.
>
> NOT being American, I can see a bigger picture without the personal
> distractions.and the quandary that now faces the western world as a whole.
> There is no sense in trying to believe that the US media is going to give
> anything but subjective coverage to this so I wouldn't recommend basing
your
> views the "facts" they provide unless you want to get caught up in
patriotic
> hysteria (which is yet more extremism).
>
> Somewhere in there you see "pent up frustration" with the US ... again,
NO.
> If you read it properly, without the disfigured slant that you insist on
> putting on it, the only references I make to any US activities past and
> present are:
>
> (a) Reagan bombed Libya on the basis of a SUSPICION that Gadaffi was
> responsible for a much, much smaller scale attack - this is history. A
> Republican acting in response to an attack on the US and wanting to
> retaliate - basically the position we are faced with today. Assuming Bin
> Laden is responsible, the US have made it clear that if Afghanistan stand
in
> their way then they will wage war on them too. This isn't a threat against
> Bin Laden or even the Taliban ... its a (very dangerous) threat against
> Islam - something that will destroy the multi-racial societies in many
> powerful countries around the world (many of which are allied to the US)
and
> inevitably end in disaster. A very high price to pay for US vengence.
>
> (b) Bush has shown from Day 1 that he has little knowledge of viable
foreign
> policy and at a time of war, unless he grows some morals, common-sense,
> foresight and a hefty pair of testicles, then the military will be running
> the show. The absence of politics at a time of conflict is ALWAYS a bad
> idea.
>
> (c) An uneven hand in the middle east - which just backing up the point
> regarding your ill-informed comment about all the palestinians "dancing in
> the streets".
>
> The US government IS an issue, since OUR fate now rests in their hands.
> Hopefully, not just in the hands of the likes of Henry "gimme some action"
> Shelton because that will be a catastrophic day for the world. The Cuban
> Missile Crisis was only resolved through JFK (a Democrat) standing up to
the
> military and avoiding the incursions and air strikes on the silos, so lets
> all hope that Bush can break with the war-mongering ethic that US
> Republicans have a reputation for deal with this situation in a manner
that
> is appropriate to the global good. Now is NOT the time for American
> patriotism and lust for vengence to dictate the fate of the rest of the
> world.
>
> As for my "attack" on JFK2, I believe you stated in your first reply that
> this is a place for sharing views. Well, in my view, it was an unnecessary
> self-righteous rant that doesn't belong in in a global forum. Also, if
JFK2
> is a God-fearing American, how does a call for violent revenge fit in with
> his religious beliefs? Is that blunt enough for you?
>
>
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
> news:3b9ed892$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
government
> is
> anything!
>
>
>
|
Sep 13, 2001, 2:21am
LOL. Fair enough. :)
SW Chris
[View Quote]"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3b9fec34$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Patriotism isn't a sin, its admirable (in moderation) ... but patriotic
> hysteria IS a form of extremism. Everyones views get warped when they are
> touched by such an attrocity, but such huge decisions cannot be influenced
> by it.
>
> I accept your point that the people change from administration to
> administration, but the ideals that drive the Democrats and the
Republicans
> evolve very slowly. It is these ideals that mould their reactions.
Democrats
> react differently to situations than Republicans ... that's why their not
> the same party. Unless the Reps have reinvented themsleves since Reagan, I
> believe that they are driven by similar beliefs to their predecessors -
> hence the comparison.
>
> "you don't tell Americans what to do" ... I'm not even starting on that
> issue ... I've said enough.
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
> news:3b9fdb6b$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
but
of
past
about
> federal
two
> administration
that's
> as
> whole.
> give
basing
again,
on
and
Bin
> stand
> against
against
US)
common-sense,
> running
bad
point
"dancing
> in
hands.
> action"
Cuban
to
> lets
the
> that
> unnecessary
> with
> the
> Why
saying
> is
> deserves
dead
> I
> issue
>
>
|
Sep 13, 2001, 2:27am
He's talking about semi-assimilation. Basically the government is converted
to something non-threatening while the culture and the citizendry at large
are left alone. Seriously grimble... that's the only way you get rid of
people like that and their wannabe subordinates. Like Hitler, Mussolini,
Bin Laden, etc...
And Japan isn't a fair comparison. =P It was either us or them. Survival
of the fittest.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"birdmike" <birdmike at home.com> wrote in message
news:3ba02d09 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> It's not ethnic cleansing, its retaliation. The thing we need to wipe out
> is this belief that it is a "holy" act to kill thousands of innocent
people.
> I didn't mean to convey ethnic cleansing at all.
>
>
> "grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:3b9fee4c at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> on
introverted
with
> influence
the
> and
> Japan.
sure
want
> that's
horrified,
like
> basing
> again,
insist
> on
> and
A
> Bin
> against
many
> US)
vengence.
> common-sense,
> bad
> point
> "dancing
> hands.
> Cuban
up
> to
so
manner
> the
if
in
with
> saying
> dead
>
>
|
Sep 13, 2001, 2:37am
It's been confirmed by Intelligence that the plane that hit the Pentagon
only hit its secondary target. Its primary target was the White House, but
it was going so fast it overshot it. The plane that went down in
Pennsylvania was the act of some heroic passengers on the plane. Apparently
they cut the fuel lines and the plane fell from the sky instead of hurtling
into the Pentagon or trying to sidle up to and ram Air Force One in mid-air.
Nobody but the President and Intelligence know what the threat against Air
Force One really was, so that was just an educated guess.
And grimble, Bush is barely 7 months into his Presidency. But I'm confident
he'll think everything through before he acts.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3b9fe761$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Wing, obviously you're not alone in wanting to see an end to this vile
> terrorism - its a view that I would hope is shared by the vast majority of
> western-minded people. However, the nature of the US retaliation is a
> concern. A war against terrorism is a war that will never end unless it is
> stamped out in one swoop, otherwise it will only escalate. By definition,
> innocent people will be the targets for terrorist activity and more and
more
> innocent people would die unless the RIGHT retaliation is exacted.
>
> This is a relatively new experience for Americans. From a personal
> perspective, I endured a number of years of working and living in central
> London as a terrorist group, who had differnet views to Britain, were
> exploding nail-bombs in pubs on busy Friday lunchtimes, bombs in litter
bins
> in crowded shopping areas, car-bombs outside densely populated commercial
> buildings, etc. These things were happening week-in-week-out in pubs that
I
> frequented, shopping areas that I used and near buildings that I worked
in,
> so I know what its like to be terrorised. London was a closed shop for
many,
> many months with checkpoints manned by armed police, brandishing H&K
> sub-machine guns, around the city perimeter.
>
> They were killing innocent people and doing it without even so much as any
> unconditional condemnation from one of our supposed allies. It is NOT an
> experience that I would wish to go through again and certainly not on any
> increased scale. Its all very well saying "go and kill the people
> responsible" when its on the other side of the world. America's allies in
> Europe are connected via land to these people and not protected by at
least
> 3,500 miles of water to the East and West. America has experienced this
> particular tragedy, horrific as it is, but either there should be either
NO
> retaliation or TOTAL retaliation. If its going to happen, it cannot be
> half-hearted and must go all the way and get them ALL or it could condemn
> millions of people around the world to more tragedy and misery. As I said
in
> another post, this is not the time for the American lust for vengence to
> dictate the fate of the rest of the world.
>
> I think Europe has experienced more than its fair share of civilian
> casualties in the last 100 years. Check out the horrific scenes from the
> mass carpet bombing of major European cities in WWII by both sides -
there's
> a big difference between fighting a war on your own doorstep and firing
> smart missiles from miles and miles away. History has told that the only
> successfuil way to end terror campaigns is to give both sides a forum in
> which to express their grievances. Islam is a powerful force in the world
> and the fundamentalists have plenty of lieutenants ready to take over
where
> their current leaders leave off. All or nothing or disaster ... and I
would
> be surprised if anyone truly believes that total anihilation of these
people
> is actually possible.
>
> These are very real concerns and I have spent all the time I am going to
> trying to express a very strong sense of anxiety for the future should the
> retaliation be carried out in the manner being called for by an
> understandably outraged nation.
>
> No more thesis-lengths posts from me, but I hope at least some people can
> appreciate that this is not a matter of one nation or group of nations
> exacting revenge on a specific terrorist organisation. It is potentially a
> huge influence on the life we live today and the values and state of
freedom
> that we all regard so dearly.
>
> BTW ... what makes you think that The Pentagon wasn't the target for the
> Washington plane? The White House seems such a token target with both The
> Pentagon and The Capitol Building in close proximity - both far more
> influential and representative of American might. Its an honest question
....
> just wondering if there was information I'd missed or whether it was just
> media speculation.
>
> Grims.
>
>
> "wing." <wing at systemrecall.com> wrote in message
> news:3b9f6d63 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
unconditional
> culprits
> hell
here,
Pentagon
of
> know
> others
terrorism,
show
> please
be
> forbidden
innocents
> murder
> peace
hours.
>
>
>
>
>
>
|
Sep 14, 2001, 7:34pm
Well spoken. Both you and Gibran. Sinking down to their level is not what
we need to do. Any action any state takes should not be done out of
revenge. It should be done because the needs of the many outweigh the needs
of the few. Destroying terrorist strongholds accomplishes this as best as
anything I know. When they're disorganized, they cannot hurt anyone.
--
Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
[View Quote]"daphne" <Daphne_is at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3ba23bbe at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> From "The Prophet" by Kahlil Gibran:
>
> THEN one of the judges of the city stood forth and said, Speak to us of
> Crime and Punishment.
>
> And he answered, saying: It is when your spirit goes wandering upon the
> wind, That you, alone and unguarded, commit a wrong unto others and
> therefore unto yourself. And for that wrong committed must you knock and
> wait a while unheeded at the gate of the blessed.
>
> Like the ocean is your god-self; It remains for ever undefiled. And like
> the ether it lifts but the winged. Even like the sun is your god-self; It
> knows not the ways of the mole nor seeks it the holes of the serpent.
>
> But your god-self does not dwell alone in your being. Much in you is
still
> man, and much in you is not yet man, But a shapeless pygmy that walks
asleep
> in the mist searching for its own awakening.
>
> And of the man in you would I now speak. For it is he and not your
god-self
> nor the pygmy in the mist, that knows crime and the punishment of crime.
>
> Oftentimes have I heard you speak of one who commits a wrong as though he
> were not one of you, but a stranger unto you and an intruder upon your
> world. But I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise
beyond
> the highest
> which is in each one of you, So the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower
> than the lowest which is in you also.
> And as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the
> whole tree, So the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of
> you all.
>
> Like a procession you walk together towards your god-self. You are the
way
> and the wayfarers. And when one of you falls down he falls for those
behind
> him, a caution against the stumbling stone. Ay, and he falls for those
> ahead of him, who though faster and surer of foot, yet removed not the
> stumbling stone.
>
> And this also, though the words lie heavy upon your hearts:
> The murdered is not unaccountable for his own murder, And the robbed is
not
> blameless in being robbed. The righteous is not innocent of the deeds of
> the wicked, And the white-handed is not clean in the doings of the felon.
>
> Yea, the guilty is oftentimes the victim of the injured, And still more
> often the condemned is the burden-bearer for the guiltless and unblamed.
>
> You cannot separate the just from the unjust and the good from the wicked;
> For they stand together before the face
> of the sun even as the black thread and the white are woven together. And
> when the black thread breaks, the
> weaver shall look into the whole cloth, and he shall examine the loom
also.
>
> If any of you would bring judgment on the unfaithful wife, Let him also
> weigh the heart of her husband in scales, and measure his soul with
> measurements.
>
> And let him who would lash the offender look unto the spirit of the
> offended.
>
> And if any of you would punish in the name of righteousness and lay the ax
> unto the evil tree, let him see to its roots;
> And verily he will find the roots of the good and the bad, the fruitful
and
> the fruitless, all entwined together in the silent heart of the earth.
>
> And you judges who would be just, What judgment pronounce you upon him who
> though honest in the flesh yet is a thief in spirit?
>
> What penalty lay you upon him who slays in the flesh yet is himself slain
in
> the spirit?
>
> And how prosecute you him who in action is a deceiver and an oppressor,
Yet
> who also is aggrieved and outraged?
>
> And how shall you punish those whose remorse is already greater than their
> misdeeds?
> Is not remorse the justice which is administered by that very law which
you
> would fain serve?
> Yet you cannot lay remorse upon the innocent nor lift it from the heart of
> the guilty. Unbidden shall it call in the night, that men may wake and
gaze
> upon themselves.
>
> And you who would understand justice, how shall you unless you look upon
all
> deeds in the fullness of light?
> Only then shall you know that the erect and the fallen are but one man
> standing in twilight between the night of his pygmy-self and the day of
his
> god-self, And that the corner-stone of the temple is not higher than the
> lowest stone in its
> foundation.
> _______________
>
> Kahlil Gibran was a teacher/philosopher who died in 1931... I often find
> comfort and wisdom in his words so I thought I'd share these ones above
with
> you all...
>
> My message is let us be very careful not sink to the level we perceive our
> attackers as being at...
>
> *hugs* for all of us
> Daphne
>
> grimble <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:3ba1a62f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
attacking
>
>
>
>
|
Sep 14, 2001, 1:26am
Careful, some website posted a bunch of names listed as deceased when they
really weren't or were still missing. The website had New York in its
name... maybe it was NewYork.com, newyorker.com? Something like that.
--
Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
[View Quote]"nornny" <Nornny1 at home.com> wrote in message
news:3ba12bbd$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hey everyone, for anybody on AW who is missing a relative or friend or is
> helping someone looking for a person who is missing from the NYC terrorist
> attacks, I've created a mini info center to hopefully help you get as much
> information as you can and to post a little note and picture of your loved
> ones so that anybody else who comes across the area can help assist you
> also.
>
> I've also opened up some land for anyone who feels like placing a memorial
> in Nornonton, where this is all located, in respects to NYC and the US.
> Please come visit and help families in any way through your resources.
>
> Although we can't donate food and such in AW, we can donate our internet
> skills in helping others find loved ones, I think. I'll also be posting
any
> missing people info I can find and links to lists of people found dead.
>
> The area in which to build is 31316n 60e in Alphaworld. You should be
> greeted by tourist built xhdstn.rwx for you to replace. Up east is land
for
> memorial builds and memories.
>
>
|
Sep 14, 2001, 1:29am
I believe the intent of the world was to let people build memorials. They
said nothing about saving lives.
--
Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
[View Quote]"internal affairs" <biginsey at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3ba16ccd$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> As many of you know AW has created a Memorial world in honor of what
> happened recently. As usual AW citizen phalaphe was asked to build it for
> them. How exactly can a "virtual" world that exists ONLY in cyberspace
help
> the rescue workers up here in NYC to save the lives of hundreds upon
> hundreds of victims? I don't see what the point of it all is. Does AW
> actually expect something to happen by actions taken on their part? It
seems
> they magically want the thousands of bodies rising out of the debris and
> rubble from the area and joining AW, correct? However, does anyone have
> information about this world?
>
>
|
Sep 14, 2001, 7:41pm
Er.. bodhi... Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC all showed different LIVE clips of
that footage. They didn't fraud anyone. I mean seriously... you think Bill
O'Reilly would continue working at Fox News if they did that? He's a
populist and populists believe people deserve the right to know the facts
absent of manipulation. I mean come on... that's just one example alone.
Another much more credible example are the official denials from Yassir
Arafat saying that he was saddenned and embarrased by Palestinians
celebrating. Your claims simply don't fit the facts.
--
Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
[View Quote]"bodhi" <Certainty at go.com> wrote in message
news:3ba23ab9 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> King Tex: it is a trvesty to do that in my opinion
> TexaBit: See folks.....alot is going to offend alot here........please
just
> accept others beliefs and opinions!:(
> Just In: what is it with you? can't you see you are inflaming people
with
> the way you are saying your message?
> Bodhi: I am not allowed to say this here but ---- CNN USING 1991 FOOTAGE
of
> celebrating Palistinians to manipulate you ---- create sign
bcolor=red;
> activate url http://de.indymedia.org/2001/09/7454.html
> Wolf Eyes: Well put TexaBit
> Just In: okay - thats it - one more time and you will be ejected
> OneSummer: Many people are shocked and hurt. Some messages left may
> shock.Memmorial World does not neccessarily support all the sentiments
> portrayed here. All of us at Active Worlds offer our deepest sympathies to
> all touched by this tragedy.
> Bodhi: (to Just In) cant you just be unbias for once
> TexaBit: One Summer......I am going to remove my card here and not step
foot
> in this world again if Bodhi is not given the respect to voice his opinion
> here...whats your decision?
> McGavin: Hey Wolf eyes
> Wolf Eyes: Hi McGavin
> Exenvoid: Bodhi sings from a different branch in a strange tree that our
> hopes do not need to hear is all .....
> Just In: I am unbiased and I hate the random attacks against innocent
> palestinians as much as you
> Just In: your message is valid...
> Just In: your delivery is tactless and hurtful
> TexaBit: brb its in my other account
> Exenvoid: Somethings always sing from else we sit,... the night is full of
> them
> OneSummer: I would like to remine everyone today is a day of prayer and
> rememberance
> Bodhi: I have just been threatened with ejection if I say this truth one
> more time so here goes --- CNN USING 1991 FOOTAGE of celebrating
> Palistinians to manipulate you ---- create sign bcolor=red; activate
url
> http://de.indymedia.org/2001/09/7454.html
> McGavin: Bohdi, it's wildly inappropriate to hand out that link in a
> memorial world
> Nathan: Bodhi take it elsewhere
> OneSummer: that is what what we are doing here
> Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from memorial
> Immigration Officer: Killing in retaliation will not bring back those who
> died, Let us not forget the sanctity of ALL life... Welcome to
Symbolic.
> www.symbolicdreamtime.homestead.com Email: Bodhi at zoomgazoo.com
>
>
|
Sep 15, 2001, 4:16am
Ok, after reading the article and all the responses, here's my take on this:
It seems to me there is a misunderstanding as to "why" the footage was used.
Seeing as this guy has it on video tape for some strange reason (who records
news?), CNN did probably use recycled footage. I'll concede you on that
point.
But what I won't concede is that we don't know why. All anyone besides the
folks at CNN has is speculation. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you maintain
that CNN used recycled footage to somehow swindle the people of the United
States, to not give them the big picture or something like that. Before you
go running around flinging accusations, perhaps you should think through
about why CNN would pull the proverbial wool over the eyes of Americans. I
can't really find a valid reason, but if you can, that's great. It's still
not proof.
Another little conclusion as to why CNN showed recycled footage was found in
one of the comments by an Ami Isseroff. Quoted, it reads, "It may be true
that CNN "recycled" 1991 footage of Palestinians celebrating the invasion of
Kuwait, or the Scud missiles falling on Israel.
The reason is that the Tanzim and the PNA have threatened that if footage
that is shot now is shown, they will kill newsmen of the service that does
it."
I would say that's a very valid reason for showing recycled footage. But
again, there are still those live shots by correspondents in the field from
FOX News and MSNBC that show similar, if not the same, scenery of
Palestinians celebrating. I bring this up just to make one point. Just
because one network appears to be defrauding its viewers, it doesn't mean
that similar events shown in the recycled footage are not actually
happening. Palestinians did celebrate, albeit a vast, vast minority that
just happened to get caught on camera. The statement by Arafat confirms
this. The PLO leader himself is evidence, and you can't get much better
than that.
So two points here. The first is that you can't automatically assume the
worst because a network happens to show recorded footage. They might
actually have a good reason for it. And the second is that a few
Palestinians did celebrate, as it was confirmed by Arafat himself.
SW Chris
"Taking what someone says at face value proves you're an idiot."
[View Quote]"bodhi" <Certainty at go.com> wrote in message
news:3ba27d60$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Er.. chris.. here is another URL:
> http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=63454&group=webcast
>
>
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
> news:3ba27970 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
of
> Bill
facts
alone.
> FOOTAGE
sympathies
> to
step
> opinion
our
full
> of
and
one
activate
> who
>
>
|
Sep 15, 2001, 4:25am
Comments below:
[View Quote]"wing." <wing at systemrecall.com> wrote in message
news:3ba28a9d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> *beats everyone that's replied to these threads senseless*
> Comon people, lets not fight among each other, it's just not appropriate.
> Bodhi, though he's commited a sin in these groups is not where your angers
> should be directed. Who gives a shit whether some news coverage was faked,
> somewhere in the world, someone IS celebrating, whether Palestinian or not
> is a moot point.
>
> Get yourselves laid or somthing over the weekend, it's been a hard week
for
> everyone and everyone's tense and ready to beat up on anyone. For
anything,
> even people for just being of Arab descent or practicing the muslim
> religion. These people are simply miniaturized versions of the terrorists
we
> are about to wage an all-out war on. Don't lose focus of the real enemy.
|
ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FRICKEN MIND!???
Arab Americans and Arabs and Muslims in general are NOT the target of United
States aggression and NEITHER is Islam! Get in your head. If you're stupid
enough to believe that just because someone is of a certain descent that
they are "miniturized versions of the terrorists" then you've got another
thing coming. WAKE UP. What do you think the whole black rights thing was
about? People CANNOT control where what lineage they are born into. And
that lineage at large should NOT be held responsible for the actions of
terrorists who just happen to be from that same lineage. Sheesh. Grow up
Wing and take your ignorance somewhere else. I can't stand racists...
SW Chris
Sep 15, 2001, 4:04pm
*phew* :)
No tolerance for racism in here. Sorry I called you one.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"wing." <wing at systemrecall.com> wrote in message
news:3ba36e01 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Errrrrrrrrrr, Chrisssss. I never said they were. I said that those that
> THINK they are are simply small-time terrorists.
>
> My wording was exceptionally shitty, but we all make mistakes.
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
> news:3ba2f43d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> appropriate.
> angers
> faked,
> not
week
> terrorists
> enemy.
> United
> stupid
another
> was
And
up
>
>
|
Sep 14, 2001, 7:47pm
Why do I have a feeling this is another StoneDeaf? Sheesh... Please bodhi,
keep your problems with world owners to yourself. This issue has nothing to
do about your message. Feel free to talk about the message in a new thread.
I'll be happy to debate you then. :) But do not talk about people ejecting
you because you delivered that message one too many times.
--
Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
[View Quote]"kah" <kah at kahbot.com> wrote in message
news:3ba26d60 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> go away, you weirdo gnome! it's your own fault you posted some most
probably
> untrue stuff, even though I don't think they should have ejected you, you
> don't need to mess about 10 threads in the NGs, do you? and you still
attach
> a useless 12kb of stupid chat log!
>
> KAH
>
> "bodhi" <Certainty at go.com> wrote in message
> news:3ba23d28 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
out
> to
> of
> rememberance
perspective
> really
be
> a
> to
being
> cope
York
the
> children
> gone
struggling
of
your
> Memorial
> to
> any
use
form
> because
to
> doing
> warrantee....get
Men
> its
> chat
he
your
> Memorial
> know -
hated.
> madness
understand
them
> carful
> will
> of
> just
> with
FOOTAGE
> of
> bcolor=red;
to
> foot
opinion
of
u
> rl
who
> Symbolic.
>
>
|
Sep 15, 2001, 3:47am
If you do not wish to debate the issues you bring to the attention of the
newsgroup, then you are a troller. Simple as that.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"bodhi" <Certainty at go.com> wrote in message
news:3ba27bd3 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> You are under some misguided belief that I have any wish to debate
anything
> at all with you lolol ...
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
> news:3ba27ad5 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> bodhi,
nothing
> to
> thread.
> ejecting
> you
go
affected.
> north
gone
> could
ahead
> is
to
on
have
> attack
this
his
> integrity
send
> special
what
> i
> RIGHT
> there
didnt
all
tape
> to
> that....prolly
sentiments
> sympathies
are
that
> with
and
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Sep 15, 2001, 4:06pm
Is it just me, or does he automatically assume the worst about everybody?
Assuming makes an ASS out of U and ME. I don't know about myself,
personally, but that's how the saying goes. Cya 'round, Troll.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"bodhi" <Certainty at go.com> wrote in message
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> This is precisely why I will not debate
> with the likes of you ... All you want
> to do is defame others - its pathetic -
>
> I'm happy to be on the ignore lists of
> those who believe as you do ...
>
> I Laugh in the face of your tyranny...
>
> lol
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> "grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Sep 15, 2001, 4:10pm
Seeing as you seemed to ignore my post in the other thread, here it is
again, so everyone else who didn't get a chance to read it can. Because the
following IS the truth:
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Ok, after reading the article and all the responses, here's my take on this:
It seems to me there is a misunderstanding as to "why" the footage was used.
Seeing as this guy has it on video tape for some strange reason (who records
news?), CNN did probably use recycled footage. I'll concede you on that
point.
But what I won't concede is that we don't know why. All anyone besides the
folks at CNN has is speculation. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you maintain
that CNN used recycled footage to somehow swindle the people of the United
States, to not give them the big picture or something like that. Before you
go running around flinging accusations, perhaps you should think through
about why CNN would pull the proverbial wool over the eyes of Americans. I
can't really find a valid reason, but if you can, that's great. It's still
not proof.
Another little conclusion as to why CNN showed recycled footage was found in
one of the comments by an Ami Isseroff. Quoted, it reads, "It may be true
that CNN "recycled" 1991 footage of Palestinians celebrating the invasion of
Kuwait, or the Scud missiles falling on Israel.
The reason is that the Tanzim and the PNA have threatened that if footage
that is shot now is shown, they will kill newsmen of the service that does
it."
I would say that's a very valid reason for showing recycled footage. But
again, there are still those live shots by correspondents in the field from
FOX News and MSNBC that show similar, if not the same, scenery of
Palestinians celebrating. I bring this up just to make one point. Just
because one network appears to be defrauding its viewers, it doesn't mean
that similar events shown in the recycled footage are not actually
happening. Palestinians did celebrate, albeit a vast, vast minority that
just happened to get caught on camera. The statement by Arafat confirms
this. The PLO leader himself is evidence, and you can't get much better
than that.
So two points here. The first is that you can't automatically assume the
worst because a network happens to show recorded footage. They might
actually have a good reason for it. And the second is that a few
Palestinians did celebrate, as it was confirmed by Arafat himself.
SW Chris
"Taking what someone says at face value proves you're an idiot."
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P.s. Am I alone here in supporting this freak's kicking from Memorial world?
SW Chris
[View Quote]"bodhi" <Certainty at go.com> wrote in message
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> Ohhh sure CNN is bound to be telling the truth... I Laugh at youe
> sillyness... lolol
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Sep 16, 2001, 1:25am
Funny... all of the news networks are continually telling people that Arab
Americans, Muslims, and those of Arab descent are not to blame and that
people should not attack them. I've never seen it the other way around.
SW Chris
p.s. Try to tone down the emotion, huh? Your outbursts about pigs and such
are very upsetting and offensive.
[View Quote]"bodhi" <Certainty at go.com> wrote in message
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> What is the point of hating ANYONE???
>
> You list has nothing at all that is helpful about it...
>
> I'm entirely sorry for you...
>
> Getting personal about this is not what I started this
> string for... I am entirely happy to be wrong in this
> case about CNN - However, the fact the they, and
> other so-called news organizations ARE inciting not
> only inter-racial violence but out and out WAR...
>
> How will the PIGS feel when American kids lay in
> smoldering craters with their bowels hanging out
> and their skin burnt off...
>
> I suppose they'll continue to blame the terrorists... LOL
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> Firkin fools...
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