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The new universe welcome message

Jul 13, 2001, 6:52pm
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I heard about the new universe-wide welcome message that's going to be =
introduced in 3.2. Won't this be a bad idea for everyone? Think about =
it - you're holding an event and you're trying to get people to come =
when AW posts a universe message telling people to leave your world and =
go to AWBingo to play. Anyone else think about this?

Hmmm - let's all take a bet. I bet Eep will be the first to be =
completely and utterly without tact to a newbie, and wing will be a =
close second :) I'd say there'll be about 10 flames. :) They could =
just post a helpful reminder :) Just to show you how this newsgroup's =
going downhill :)

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bet.&nbsp; I=20
bet Eep will be the first to be completely and utterly without tact to a =
newbie,=20
and wing will be a close second :)&nbsp; I'd say there'll be about 10 =
flames.=20
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you how=20
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The new universe welcome message

Jul 14, 2001, 1:48am
Hey, my prediction was right!

Highlight and read the white text under my first message.

The new universe welcome message

Jul 14, 2001, 12:14pm
By the way - Brant purposely did that first message (in my name) to stir up
some controversey.

The new universe welcome message

Jul 14, 2001, 10:41pm
Brant wanted to write that message to prove that these newsgroups were going
downhill. After a debate with nornny (which you could prove), he did this.
He didn't want to go through the whole process of re-setting up the
newsgroups to his account, so he used mine.

The new universe welcome message

Jul 14, 2001, 11:20pm
Well, of course everything would remain the same if he logged onto my
account and posted with it.
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The new universe welcome message

Jul 14, 2001, 11:40pm
We're brothers. We share the same IP.
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Did you ever notice...

Jul 14, 2001, 12:35am
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Did you ever notice that the people who have the most off-topic things =
to say waste the most space and downloading time? Notice Eep. He =
wastes 32kb of space and downloading time to try to make a point of not =
posting in html. Can't everyone just stick to the topic of the post and =
stop complaining about everything else. If people like Eep and Wing =
stopped complaining about the pointless things in everyone's posts it =
would save us a headache and a lot of downloading time. When people =
complain about this, it just makes everyone have to download more posts. =
Why not think of that the next time you complain about posting in html =
or another pointless off-topic thing.

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Kmissile583K
AWTeen Head Builder
Kmissile58 at hotmail.com



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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000>AWTeen Head Builder</FONT></DIV>
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Did you ever notice...

Jul 14, 2001, 12:50am
I don't think that way. I just want an intelligent answer to one of my
posts.
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Did you ever notice...

Jul 14, 2001, 1:04am
I'm just ending this post right now.

And by the way - at least I have intelligent questions and comments.

To Whom It May Concern... [long!]

Jul 18, 2001, 8:50pm
I agree with Brant's message on awnews.com more than this proposal.

Article by Brant (long post)

Jul 18, 2001, 9:02pm
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I agree with all of Brant's article.


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Goober King presents many valid arguments in his July edition of =
"Stirring the Virtual Melting Pot". While there are several =
improvements to be made to the Activeworlds universe, his article =
presents some serious flaws.

Goober presents a list of mistakes that AW has made in the past. He =
points out that gaining corporate sponsors is one of these "mistakes", =
while charging for free citizenships is also a "mistake". Simply put, =
Activeworlds has to make money somehow. If Goober wants AW to stop =
seeking corporate sponsors, then AW has to charge for citizenships; if =
citizenships were to be free, AW would have to rely on advertising and =
corporate sponsorship. At least one of these steps has to be taken to =
ensure that the bills are paid. Yet, there are those who believe that =
AW can continue to exist as a company without a source of revenue.

There seems to be a stigma that AW has poor customer service and does =
not try to help the community. In contrast, all of the AW employees I =
have met in my experience have been very experienced and helpful. =
Lucrezia Borgia has never stopped trying to help people; Mountain Myst =
has been visible in the community coordinating events and setting up =
activities like AWCamp; Facter and Flagg have provided valuable =
technical support; and even HamFon has participated in many =
behind-the-scenes activities such as programming the BingoBot. Yet, =
there are those who believe that AW employees are "out to get them."

Some believe that the AW universe is "dead and dying". In contrast, I =
remember a time just last September when the number of users logged into =
the Universe rarely exceeded 500. Today, at the same time of day, the =
number is regularly between 600 and 700. Yet, there are those who =
believe that AW should by now have millions of users registered.

If AW is not aiming to increase its userbase, then what is the purpose =
of releasing its upcoming version 3.2? Take the corporate firewall =
support that will be included, for instance. Many AW citizens would =
like to use AW at work, and Activeworlds' management is giving them this =
new option. Firewall support isn't just for Juno subscribers or for =
NetTaxi readers or for other Universe owners, but for all citizens, as =
is OpenGL support. Contrary to popular belief, AW is growing and is =
taking steps to ensure that its growth continues, and its partnership =
with Juno is supporting this growth. I remember a time when the =
JunoDome world had in excess of 100 people occupying it during a Juno =
advertising campaign, and I know many citizens who started out as Juno =
users. Furthermore, one of the biggest problems that AW (and the =
frustrated bot programmer) has faced, the discrepancy between versions =
2.2 and 3.1 of the AW browser, will be eliminated with the upcoming =
software renderer. Yet, there are still thse who will complain that AW =
is not taking steps to ensure its continued success.

Looking below, you'll find that there is an article about a petition =
in AW that is attempting to lower world prices. I would like to ask the =
creators of this petition what lowering world prices would accomplish. =
Would cutting the cost of worlds make the community closer? Would =
charging less increase AW's revenue so that it can further its =
development? Would eliminating the one-time signup fee bring more users =
to the universe? Absolutely not. Instead, lowering world prices would =
simply increase the number of dead worlds and reduce the number of =
people who actively participate in the AW community. And yes, there are =
also those who believe that lowering world prices would solve all of the =
problems of the Universe.=20

However, despite all the positive things that AW has done for the =
community, I find that there are many steps that AW can still take to =
increase its userbase, and ultimately, its revenue. First, a stand =
needs to be made against troublemakers and those who aim to destroy =
worlds and to hack other users. Many worlds have been closed or =
hindered because of this sort of cyber-crime. AW needs to enforce its =
GZ behavior policies, Content Guidelines, and other various charters and =
rules more strictly. In addition, AW employees need to take a more =
active role in improving the Peacekeeping of AlphaWorld, as several of =
the Peacekeepers with which I have dealt have not handled a situation in =
a professional manner. In my experience, some Peacekeepers have been =
downright rude when I have contacted them, and their superiors did =
nothing to correct the problem. Most importantly, the company needs to =
moderate its newsgroups. Many a user, myself included, has left the =
newsgroups because of a select few citizens who continue to post =
inappropriate content that serves only to demean fellow users, ruining =
the atmosphere for legitimate debate. In fact, while I had been =
aggravated by the arrogance of those citizens in the newsgroups for a =
long time, I finally decided to leave the groups after Eep, instead of =
debating in a calm manner, flamed my posts on the subject of this =
article. In short, troublemakers both in-world and out-of-world destroy =
the community feel which is so crucial to AW's success, and AW must take =
swift and decisive action against them.

What do I find wrong with Activeworlds' management? In short, very =
little. Activeworlds has done what any company tries to do - make =
money. While most Internet companies have floundered and become a =
"passing fad", Activeworlds Corp. has stayed around for over six years, =
during which a tremendous technological change has occurred. Through =
this change, AW has secured its place in the 1% of startup companies who =
survive past their first year, which in itself is quite a feat. While =
there are a few areas that leave room for improvement, I feel that AW =
has, in general, done a good job balancing appeasing its customers and =
securing corporate deals. Besides, AW currently has many =
community-friendly activities up its sleeve, such as new building =
worlds, an object maker for the AW browser, and more events, for which =
Goober King and the citizens who support his letter clamor ceaselessly. =
If everyone would work to make the community better instead of =
petitioning Activeworlds for what it is already attemping to do, then =
perhaps the Universe would be a better place.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with all of Brant's =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>"beardo" &lt;</EM></FONT><A=20
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this article by Brant at awnews.com more exactly </EM></FONT><A=20
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size=3D2><EM> , so go there to argue with him since he doesn't read this =
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anymore.<BR><BR>/Beardo<BR></EM><BR><EM>---------------------------------=
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King presents many valid arguments in his July edition of "Stirring the =
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flaws.<BR><BR>&nbsp;=20
Goober presents a list of mistakes that AW has made in the past.&nbsp; =
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charging=20
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sponsorship.&nbsp; At=20
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paid.&nbsp; Yet, there are those who believe that AW can continue to =
exist as a=20
company without a source of revenue.<BR><BR>&nbsp; There seems to be a =
stigma=20
that AW has poor customer service and does not try to help the =
community.&nbsp;=20
In contrast, all of the AW employees I have met in my experience have =
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experienced and helpful.&nbsp; Lucrezia Borgia has never stopped trying =
to help=20
people; Mountain Myst has been visible in the community coordinating =
events and=20
setting up activities like AWCamp; Facter and Flagg have provided =
valuable=20
technical support; and even HamFon has participated in many =
behind-the-scenes=20
activities such as programming the BingoBot.&nbsp; Yet, there are those =
who=20
believe that AW employees are "out to get them."<BR><BR>&nbsp; Some =
believe that=20
the AW universe is "dead and dying".&nbsp; In contrast, I remember a =
time just=20
last September when the number of users logged into the Universe rarely =
exceeded=20
500.&nbsp; Today, at the same time of day, the number is regularly =
between 600=20
and 700. Yet, there are those who believe that AW should by now have =
millions of=20
users registered.<BR><BR>&nbsp; If AW is not aiming to increase its =
userbase,=20
then what is the purpose of releasing its upcoming version 3.2?&nbsp; =
Take the=20
corporate firewall support that will be included, for instance.&nbsp; =
Many AW=20
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giving=20
them this new option.&nbsp; Firewall support isn't just for Juno =
subscribers or=20
for NetTaxi readers or for other Universe owners, but for all citizens, =
as is=20
OpenGL support.&nbsp; Contrary to popular belief, AW is growing and is =
taking=20
steps to ensure that its growth continues, and its partnership with Juno =
is=20
supporting this growth.&nbsp; I remember a time when the JunoDome world =
had in=20
excess of 100 people occupying it during a Juno advertising campaign, =
and I know=20
many citizens who started out as Juno users.&nbsp; Furthermore, one of =
the=20
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the=20
discrepancy between versions 2.2 and 3.1 of the AW browser, will be =
eliminated=20
with the upcoming software renderer.&nbsp; Yet, there are still thse who =
will=20
complain that AW is not taking steps to ensure its continued=20
success.<BR><BR>&nbsp; Looking below, you'll find that there is an =
article about=20
a petition in AW that is attempting to lower world prices.&nbsp; I would =
like to=20
ask the creators of this petition what lowering world prices would=20
accomplish.&nbsp; Would cutting the cost of worlds make the community=20
closer?&nbsp; Would charging less increase AW's revenue so that it can =
further=20
its development?&nbsp; Would eliminating the one-time signup fee bring =
more=20
users to the universe?&nbsp; Absolutely not.&nbsp; Instead, lowering =
world=20
prices would simply increase the number of dead worlds and reduce the =
number of=20
people who actively participate in the AW community.&nbsp; And yes, =
there are=20
also those who believe that lowering world prices would solve all of the =

problems of the Universe. <BR><BR>&nbsp; However, despite all the =
positive=20
things that AW has done for the community, I find that there are many =
steps that=20
AW can still take to increase its userbase, and ultimately, its =
revenue.&nbsp;=20
First, a stand needs to be made against troublemakers and those who aim =
to=20
destroy worlds and to hack other users.&nbsp; Many worlds have been =
closed or=20
hindered because of this sort of cyber-crime.&nbsp; AW needs to enforce =
its GZ=20
behavior policies, Content Guidelines, and other various charters and =
rules more=20
strictly.&nbsp; In addition, AW employees need to take a more active =
role in=20
improving the Peacekeeping of AlphaWorld, as several of the Peacekeepers =
with=20
which I have dealt have not handled a situation in a professional =
manner.&nbsp;=20
In my experience, some Peacekeepers have been downright rude when I have =

contacted them, and their superiors did nothing to correct the =
problem.&nbsp;=20
Most importantly, the company needs to moderate its newsgroups.&nbsp; =
Many a=20
user, myself included, has left the newsgroups because of a select few =
citizens=20
who continue to post inappropriate content that serves only to demean =
fellow=20
users, ruining the atmosphere for legitimate debate.&nbsp; In fact, =
while I had=20
been aggravated by the arrogance of those citizens in the newsgroups for =
a long=20
time, I finally decided to leave the groups after Eep, instead of =
debating in a=20
calm manner, flamed my posts on the subject of this article.&nbsp; In =
short,=20
troublemakers both in-world and out-of-world destroy the community feel =
which is=20
so crucial to AW's success, and AW must take swift and decisive action =
against=20
them.<BR><BR>&nbsp; What do I find wrong with Activeworlds' =
management?&nbsp; In=20
short, very little.&nbsp; Activeworlds has done what any company tries =
to do -=20
make money.&nbsp; While most Internet companies have floundered and =
become a=20
"passing fad", Activeworlds Corp. has stayed around for over six years, =
during=20
which a tremendous technological change has occurred.&nbsp; Through this =
change,=20
AW has secured its place in the 1% of startup companies who survive past =
their=20
first year, which in itself is quite a feat.&nbsp; While there are a few =
areas=20
that leave room for improvement, I feel that AW has, in general, done a =
good job=20
balancing appeasing its customers and securing corporate deals.&nbsp; =
Besides,=20
AW currently has many community-friendly activities up its sleeve, such =
as new=20
building worlds, an object maker for the AW browser, and more events, =
for which=20
Goober King and the citizens who support his letter clamor =
ceaselessly.&nbsp; If=20
everyone would work to make the community better instead of petitioning=20
Activeworlds for what it is already attemping to do, then perhaps the =
Universe=20
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Article by Brant (long post)

Jul 18, 2001, 9:03pm
oops - meant to cut that off

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