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first "citizen union" objective: telegram muting!

Aug 8, 2001, 3:13pm
My favorite is still..

44. Will you be my boyfriend? <from someone you don't know>

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first "citizen union" objective: telegram muting!

Aug 8, 2001, 3:13pm
OR

45. Hi, I'm <name of someone you don't know>'s sister/brother.

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Cits with worlds

Aug 7, 2001, 8:58am
It's because the cit is within 30 days of expiring.. makes sense to me..

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[CU] Response to Citizens Union Proposal

Aug 7, 2001, 7:54pm
*shrugs*

You have to realize his standpoint, Goober, he IS willing to work with the community, but is NOT willing to change his current goals
and ideals for the company. He also IS NOT willing to work with people who he feels can be a threat to the community and program.
Not neccesarily that *YOU* are a threat, but this type of "union" runs a high risk of coruption and private-party rule. Although I
would have liked to see the Citizen Union Succeed with AW, I understand why it will not at this point. My suggestion to you is to
continue with your plans, and when the 7 of you meet, meet with AW staff if they are willing, if not then meet with eachother and
share ideas, send the chat log out to AWC and they can do with it what they will. After time, if all goes well, I am certain AWC
will be more then happy to re-consider they're position on this subject.

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[CU] Response to Citizens Union Proposal

Aug 10, 2001, 8:12pm
I totally agree with you, I think custom AVs is a waste of time and space. People will abuse it, not use it, or take it for
granted. I think it is completeley unnecessary and that there are many other things which should me much higher on the list, more as
a neccessity then just things desired, such as Custom AVs. However, like kellee, I also agree that If they were to implement custom
AVs having a "av maker" thing installed in the browser (like hoyle's) would be great, where you can mix and match shapes and
designes and textures to create your very own custom avatar, however make it so people can't have 50 meter AVs or .2 meter AVs. As
a person in charge of a Paintball world, custom AVs are a nightmare in the making. If any user can come in using any avatar they
want they can make it litterally impossible to be hit, the entire point of the game would be lost.

Thanks, J B E L L


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To Rick Noll a long and sincere letter

Aug 8, 2001, 7:29pm
That I can.. There's an article in AWNews.com but maybe i'll elaborate on the purpose and running of AWDebate.. I'll start a new
thread though so ppl who want to know don't miss it..

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AWDebate

Aug 8, 2001, 7:45pm
I have seen a lot of questions go around as far as the purpose and running of AWDebate, I decided to let you guys know what we're
doing. AWDebate is a citizen ran world which will be open all the time (except for private meetings) and will have scheduled weekly
debates. There is a bot which will remain there throughout the time the world is open and will take suggestions on what topics to
discuss. Just before the debates begin the world will close for a couple minutes, during this time I will review the topics that
people have suggested, then remove them so people can give ideas for the next weeks debate. The topic that comes up the most will
be debated on during that session. If we come to a majority agreement then we will move on to the second most suggested topic will
be discussed, time permitting. Many AWC Employees have shown much interest in attending these debates. The debates will hopefully
be scheduled at a decent time where they can attend. If no AWC employees (or ones of power) were able to attend, then afterwards
the bot will randomly select 5 of the attendees. The world will be closed with enter rights given to these 5 people and myself. We
will discuss the ideas that we thought came up most often throughout the debates. To maintain fairness each of us will send the
staff personalized letters containing the ideas we noticed the most. Also to maintain fairness people who have been chosen before
can not be chosen again. I feel that doing this will help maintain fairness and get EVERY person an oppertunity to relay the
information they got out of the debate, therefor we don't have to worry about it being biased or just a few people that I selected,
therefor making it seem as though I am pushing my own agenda. I feel this world and program is a huge step forward for the
community being able to get their views across to other citizens and the staff of AWC. Hopefull this will provide everyone an
opportunity to discuss their ideas, and brainstorm, organize their thoughts in what are our realistic goals. Perhaps we will have
an extra monthly or bi-monthly debate where we can re-evaluate our goals, as a commmunity. I would like to open up AWDebate as a
community resource for anyone, 24 hours a day. It is my deepest hope that together we can make AW a better place, that we can make
it the glorious utopia it once was. I remember a time when E N Z O could be spoken to freely in COFMeta, now it seems if he is
online you can never get a word in, I hope to see that change. My main goal for this world is to be able to let the community have
more of an imput, and a more organized voice. Just like the citizen's union, my goal is to unite the community and let us organize
our power. To change the one flaw I see in the community - the lack of unity, how people just stand around and yell requests
individually, I think unification of our voice will be much better heard. Please tell me your ideas and concerns for this world
and, well anything for that matter, I'll defineteley keep you updated. If you are wondering when the world is to open... I honestly
don't know.. We built the first large part of the world in a couple days.. but the last bits seem to be taking ages to complete,
however I believe the world will be opened before too long.

Thanks You,
John Bell
J B E L L (175734)

Custom Avatars (wrong NG, i know, but I think it's a good idea)

Aug 10, 2001, 10:28pm
I am not fully for the use of Custom Avatars because I feel it can be abused rather be by size, or obscene use of textures/seqs.
Therefore I have come up with an Idea that I feel might make us all happy, wheather you be for 100% Custom AVs, or None at all.

A World owner would be able to have one of three choices in regards to Custom AVs in their world.

Option A) Allow All Custom Avatars
-Will allow ANY custom avatar that a visitor would like to use.

Option B) Limited Custom Avatars
-AW will have an "av maker" in which a world owner can specify what textures/objects or "bodies" and sequences that can be used. A
small dialog box within AW will show these options and create the avatar as per the users request. This way the world owner can
"censor" and limit the custom avatars people use, to prevent them from being too big, too small, or obscene.

Option C) No Custom Avatars
-No users will be allowed Custom Avatars in that world.

I think that having these three options is a good compromise for people who are for/against custom AVs and the reasons why. Let me
know what you think..

Misunderstandings...

Aug 11, 2001, 2:25am
Well.. as far as you posting e-mails I thought that in general it was bad practice, broke a couple frendships of mine (posting
tgrams in chat) and tuly violates the trust of who the e-mail is from. I rationalized it by saying it was for the community, but I
knew that it was not, I am glad you have swallowed your pride and are willing to admit your flaws and fallacies, and appreciate your
ability to step forward and set an example for others.

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So E N Z O....ya finally got here huh? :)

Aug 11, 2001, 2:33am
I've got something to say.. (yes i know.. so why don't i say it? replies below)

: So are you gunna start checking this place out regularly? You've picked a
: good time to jump in, I can see a few gigs of bandwidth on the horizon
: regarding Goobs points, which are all valid and I support. Your going to
: have a tough time, but hey!...who said being a CEO was easy? At least this
: way your showing some interest in our issues.

E N Z O has been a reader of these newsgroups for quite some time, however has not made a post based on his nuetrality and I can
only guess a did not want to make it appear as though he is "against" any users. Not only that but also because no matter how hard
he can try there will still be a lot of people who will feel anything he says means something other then what it did.

: At the same time, like your reply to Ryan.'s command, it is nice to see you
: taking part in the community a bit.

I thought that was classic, especially because it was the first post by E N Z O i saw, and I thought it was a great enterance for
such an esteemed person, who sits high in the eyes of many. I think it says that he is just like the rest of us, yes he is the CEO,
but he is also a citizen and therefor a member of the community and should not be left out of the loop.

: Are you going to stick it out and defend AWCOM against the recent onslaught?
: Facters been all on his own here. And he cant anwser every single thing
: thrown at him.

I think he's going to defend it to an extent, because of business he can not "knock down" any ideas or oppinions so I'm certain
he'll be watching what he says as not to offend anyone.

: The Citizens Union await...but will you accept and work with them? Its a key
: factor in AW's future success, after all, where would you be without the
: many thousend citizens that got you to where you are today? :o)

The CU died with the idea, It was a very good idea, however, I stand with E N Z O in that it could be a threat to the company and
corruption & greed with in the CU, intended or not is very feasible. I do believe though that his attendance in AWDebate will make
the need for the CU almost desengrate, simply because it has virtually the same goals and practices, however it is more of an "open
forum" then one that is "censored" even the slightest message..

: -Gamer
:
-J B E L L

:-)

So E N Z O....ya finally got here huh? :)

Aug 11, 2001, 3:18am
*shrugs*

If GK or anyone wants to run CU, be my guest, however if someone besides GK wants to run it, i'de ask him for permission, seeing as
how it was his idea.

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So E N Z O....ya finally got here huh? :)

Aug 11, 2001, 6:38am
I'm almost certain that if we can think of a way to run CU that has a low risk of corruption, yet is different then AWDebate that
they would be willing to work with them.

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Everyone BEWARE

Aug 13, 2001, 4:15pm
Limiting prizes by IP is totally unfair, I've been a cit for years.. I would have already used up my limit and not get to win, while
a person who has been on the same time and has a dynamic ip can still win.. that puts me at an unfair disadvantage.

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Kids will be kids!

Aug 15, 2001, 7:06pm
my reply for pretty much this entire thread is as follows..

love it or leave it
people who practice Gor have CHOSEN the beliefs of a minority and because it is a minority they will always be picked on, there will
always be a "group" who's "purpose in life" is to "stop you" or at least that's what your concieted enough to tell yourself..

A person who regulars the Gor worlds and practices has just a right as any other to be a citizen, and just the same amount of right
to deal with your conflicts. If you are being harassed what right is it of yours to create a network to deal with these people and
yet even DEMAND assistance from AWC. You may be harassed as a minority group, and yell for fairness then take your demands higher
priority then other citizens, we all pay the same amount of money and deal with the same things.. either choose to live with it like
the rest of has or move on.. but in the meantime.. as a fairwarning.. anyone who is just going to sit and complain about how *they*
get it more then anyone else might as well not adress a comment to me because you will be filtered untill you realize that there are
thousands of current citizens and your not a dime more important then the rest of us..

(*you* being used as a generalization towards the goreans who feel "discriminated" against and attempt to take immediate action, on
their own terms.)

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xelagon offline

Aug 22, 2001, 5:58pm
it would never be created because it starts with AW...

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Lower The Worlds Prices

Aug 31, 2001, 6:50pm
people who want worlds are going to buy them rather they cost 10 or 100.. people will find a way to get the money.. not only that
but when you look at how many world's there are.. i don't think that weather one specific person buys a world or not doesn't really
matter..
not only that... it doesn't matter if you would rather have the cit be reduced a $20 world reduction..the cit's aren't part of the
world cost.. there just "gifts" for getting a world.. that's why it says free cits included.. VS didn't die because of world prices,
it died becuse of Lord Vector's marital problems, lowering prices *ARE NOT* going to make them more money.. lets look at it..

Many people urge AW to take away the *license* fee.. ok.. so let's say they did.. there's a world that costs 100 + 70 license, and 5
people buy it a day..that's $850.. if they rid the licesne fee.. i doubt any more then 3 people a day will buy the world then
wouldn't have otherwise.. even so, that makes the profit down to.. 800, and that's a generous estimation too. Big deal that there
are 100, 200 names on a petition thing.. that means that there are hundreds of thousands of names that aren't, do you think that if
100 MORE people bought a world in a year, then wouldn't have, but EVERY world purchase is 70 lower.. that they'll make more money?
hmm.. that's something to think about..

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Lower The Worlds Prices

Aug 31, 2001, 6:52pm
the cits *ARE NOT* included in the price, they are *gifts* if you want to get money back from them, resale them.. if no one will buy
a year one from you (and I don't blame them, i'de just reg my cit with aw) then "license" it as a 6 or 3 month cit.. then they'll
just keep paying YOU for the cit rather then aw...

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Lower The Worlds Prices

Aug 31, 2001, 6:54pm
No, because world purchases don't include a cit, it's a *gift* aw can easily any time take the cits off and replace it with
something else.. it's like buying a whopper and getting free fries.. they're not gonna put on their menu board that fries are
included with a whopper purchase, because in a week from now they might not be..

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AW Problems.

Sep 16, 2001, 2:11pm
I'm having problems loading AW on this comp. After opening the program, nothing comes up on my monitor, the hourglass shows on my
mouse, but then eventually goes away, nothing having loaded. I have installed, removed and re-installed AW and Juno 3D Chat several
times now, it being the only program I have experienced this problem with thus far. AMD K-7 1ghz, 386 mb ram GTI 3D graphics card,
GTI K-7 Motherboard, etc.

AW Problems.

Sep 24, 2001, 6:30pm
lol..

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CPU Problems.

Sep 24, 2001, 4:15pm
This isn't fully related to AW, but I was hoping some of you might be able to help.

Here's what I have:
1ghz AMD K7 T-Bird Processor
Sound Blaster LIVE! Audio Card
nVidia eVGA Video Card, 64 MB
640.0 MB Ram. (yes, 640, wasn't a typo)
MSI K7T Turbo Limited Edition Mother Board
20 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM Hard Drive
WindowsME

My Problem:
A) When Launching Active Worlds version 3.1, the mouse cursor becomes hourglass; busy; and remains that way untill selecting
something at which it returns to normal state, without 3.1 opening. When I Control-Alt-Del, it shows the program 'Aworld' as
active. I have installed, un-installed, and re-installed it numerous times to no avail. Any Ideas on a possible problem would be
greatly appreciated, as it would on the problem below.

B) Not AW Related, but I was hoping to get your input. Whenever launching an audio application, I get an error stating that the
audio driver is already in use, thus not allowing me to have ANY audio. I honestly have no idea what the problem could be, but I
would be very happy if you all could help me resolve both without having to take the system in, thanks.

- J B

CPU Problems.

Sep 24, 2001, 6:30pm
thx.. actually that's a geforce 2 vid card.. read the wrong box, lol

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did Roland rush out 3.2?

Oct 2, 2001, 11:00pm
We shouldn't have to run out and download all kinds of new drivers and
upgrades just to run one software program.

-Right.. you should already have updated drivers... and if doing so is a
hassle to you.. then just run it under software mode.. and if that isn't
good enough for you.. then lose aw.. and don't update anything.. just stick
to playing solitaire..

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Bad Taste - Joker CY

Feb 5, 2002, 11:12pm
it seems to me that, concerning most of the aw cits, having class in aw
playing cards should be the least of their concerns...

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Bad Taste - Joker CY

Feb 5, 2002, 11:13pm
amen

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Bad Taste - Joker CY

Feb 5, 2002, 11:15pm
i want to bathe with jesus.. ( jesus.com )

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patriots?

Feb 5, 2002, 11:09pm
the day u.s. based companies celebrate other nation's championships will be
the same day that other nation based countries celebrate the u.s.'s ;-)

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patriots?

Feb 9, 2002, 5:05pm
it's a private american company that provides a service..

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Sorry, there is a goat inside of your engine

Feb 5, 2002, 11:11pm
i usually go down after the conversation, not for it.. unless i'm talking to
a midget..

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RPG

Feb 15, 2002, 4:42am
barbarian, dark elf, dwarf, erudite, gnome, half elf, halfling, high elf,
human, ogre, troll, wood elf, iksar, vah shir

...those are the races on EQ

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