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May 30, 2005, 12:28pm

Make a better bot in console now then, and then another, and another... when
you have made 5 or 6 then go onto GUI's. Which are quite similar, except no
aw_wait loop.

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Jun 11, 2005, 5:10pm

I am hoping someone could give me an idea on this, to save me running
extensive tests.

If I enable object callback, send 200 object adds... and recieve 100
callbacks, then get disconnected - will i ever recieve the other 100
callbacks?

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Jun 11, 2005, 8:28pm

I am calling aw_wait at 100ms regardless; however - syncronous calls are not
an option - they freeze the calling thread, and I am actually making a multi
dispatch queue class, to send callback messages back to the class or a
static function that called the associated SDK method, so *should* my
connection go down... for example overflow, network connectivity, idiot
parents pulling out the ADSL... I need to know if the rest will be called or
not after the disconnect event.

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Jun 23, 2005, 7:30pm

Option explcified not defined also.

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Jul 4, 2005, 3:21pm

To ask a question:

Are callbacks guarentee'd to be recieved in the same order that they were
sent FIFO, for example

Add 1
Add 2
Add 3

Callback 1
Callback 2
Callback 3

Cheers

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Jul 4, 2005, 3:38pm

I am making a queue system for my object events, that uses function pointers
to inform different sections about things.

I am just using FIFO at the moment, i may have to change over to the object
number method.

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Jul 5, 2005, 3:16pm

[View Quote] > Alex

I have never really done this, I have always sent 9 or 10 at once with
aw_cell_combine on, waiting for 8 or so to be returned, then called another
10 - in my experience this improves performance by several hundred percent,
and let the callback determine if I send the next volly, obviously after the
first RC you stop - if you send a few more it doesnt really matter.

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Jul 5, 2005, 8:47pm

[View Quote] > So, if you ever had a closer look to the result you got back, you see that
> you got the cell same 10 times, unless you set the AW_CELL_ITERATOR to a
> right value before you issue an call to aw_cell_next ();

^^ Correct, took it out of Demeter.

> Thanks and good luck,
> Chris

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Jul 5, 2005, 8:59pm

That said,

I made this very mistake quite a lot a few years back until someone shouted
at me repeatedly for it and educated me to it.

It really needs adding to the documentation as this has wrecked various
projects in the past. That said, I still recieved huge increases when
automatically incrementing the itterator each time and calling in a for
loop.

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Jul 5, 2005, 10:28pm

Now consider it as the callback system is described in the AWSDK.

Each call is a request for the server to send back data for the given cell
in an asyncronous manner, which via dispatch it exactly how an itterator
works.

loop
{request multiple itens something}


> recieve the results of them

As the dictionary reference says, accessing one at a time - in this context
with a callback that would clearly indicate accessing it in order to send
the request - not to actually handle the data itself which is explicitly
dissassociated with the call itself due to the asyncronous nature..

At the end of the day: There should be an explicit aw_cell_at(x, z)
function.

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Jul 25, 2005, 4:09pm

I was just wondering Jim (I expect to be slammed for this), you *do* know
how to program, right?

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Jul 25, 2005, 4:53pm

aw_say("/me cries");

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Jul 26, 2005, 7:37pm

Nope =\ ive only clocked up 6 or 7 thousand hours of SDK programming.

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Aug 5, 2005, 3:18am

Replace$(aw_string$(AW_AVATAR_NAME), chr(34), "_")

For the record, if you are making something that needs to be high
performance - INI files are terrible for it, especially when writing them on
XP2.

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Aug 5, 2005, 10:06am

That is correct, a simple string replace.

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Jan 19, 2006, 10:52pm

[View Quote] FYI: I do this with Evolution;
http://www.temporal-solutions.co.uk/software/evolution/helper.php?page=setup/cl

../evo_mon.exe" /login /profile:"Mark 2" /hide

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"Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those
of us who do"
Isaac Asimov

Oct 26, 2005, 5:12am

Only if you multithread safe the SDK yourself, the 4.1 SDK is better for
this which you will see later, try using aw_create_resolved to make it
faster.

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Isaac Asimov
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Nov 25, 2005, 9:00am

Your thoughts are wrong.

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"Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those
of us who do"
Isaac Asimov

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Nov 26, 2005, 12:37am

Imagine one MT host server app with a few hundred bot plugins connected to
it running on a local server - or monitoring all worlds in a universe via a
single CT bot.

Thats 1000 there an then. Dont presume based on limits of what you have
done.

- MR

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Oct 30, 2005, 6:51pm

Joe is the person whom I forgot to include on my list over in community, so
that makes 6 - Andras would be on it but he seems to be more of a C'er.

Seriously, if you want someone on it full time over 6 months (which is what
it would take), you can expect to pay a standard wage, thats somewhere
between $20,000 and $70,000

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"Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those
of us who do"
Isaac Asimov

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Oct 31, 2005, 6:54am

If my figures are right.... and theres few things I admire more than a good
figure ;)

Going rate in US for a programmer is between $40 and $200 an hour isnt it?
(depending on senior status).

We just had a visit from Accenture who wanted 20 'Junior Software Engineers'
on £16k ($25,000) placement for 1 year living in London. The lecture theatre
pretty much burst out laughing at them.

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"Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those
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Isaac Asimov

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Oct 31, 2005, 10:24pm

Hmm, new person introduced to the relativly undocumented SDK trying to
figure out everything in it, make up their own management systems and work
out what the hell everything does...

Good bloody luck, this will be one I will be amazed to see. For the record,
it took me 4 years to learn 'everything' about the SDK and still find new
things regually, and I code at amazing speed.

Also for the record, im quite apt at project management for myself, and I
always find it best to know who you are dealing with... Evidence collected
so far shows that you are failing to both reach out to the core team (you
know, the ones that actually know the SDK properly)

You are willing to pay thousands of dollars for a programmer for a free
world, wanting to take all the features from the 3 community bots and have
exclusive use of them; you want it updatable by novices so you can cut the
coder once its done, and you do not like the idea of students despite the
best coders in AW all being on computer related computing degrees.

The above makes you look like a fraud, I would be, and am, very, very warey
of your motives as there is no apparent logic behind them that any of us can
see... Welcome to prove me wrong tho, ive been wrong before, but its damned
rare.

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"Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those
of us who do"
Isaac Asimov

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Oct 31, 2005, 10:51pm

For the record, I am quite aware I can be a bitch :)

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"Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those
of us who do"
Isaac Asimov

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Nov 1, 2005, 8:42am

Everyone always has been Chris :P i'm not confortable negotiating with
ghosts anyway ;)

Besides - when June comes around again and I have lots of free time a few
people shown interest, so when John has his Indian coding away for 6 months
and all this lot I will simply walk along and better whatever has been made
5 fold, would probably only take me a fortnight considering all I have to do
is clip existing modules together and write the code for on-top.

I always need reasons to futher inflate my already huge ego :)

My worth ethic is this:
If I am not working for you, I am working to put you out of business - and
thats good news for me, and bad news for everyone else.

I am not at all hurt, or angered by not getting this, the working method
isnt suitable for me. Best of luck!... im always open to new challenges,
especially ones that give half of the details I did when I was making the
Arc bot :O Whoops.

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"Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those
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Isaac Asimov

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Nov 1, 2005, 3:32pm

Hence why I guage what the market needs, and sell it to them as a product
once ive made it.

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"Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those
of us who do"
Isaac Asimov

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Nov 2, 2005, 10:00pm

class CTrashBot :
public CBaseBot
{
protected:
IMPLIMENT_STD_AVATARS(CBaseAvatar)
IMPLIMENT_STD_LOGIN( )
IMPLIMENT_STD_COMMS( )

void OnTimer(UINT TimerID)
{
PBASEAVATAR user;
FOR_EACH_OF_DEFINED_USERS(user, g_Avatars)
if (GetTickCount() - user.GetLastActionTime() >= 1000 * 60 * 60)
user->EjectUser("RIP", 300);
END_FOR_EACH
}
};

;) <3

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"Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those
of us who do"
Isaac Asimov

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Nov 2, 2005, 10:02pm

My bad, that should be

if (GetTickCount() - user->GetLastActionTime() >= 1000 * 60 * 60)

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"Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those
of us who do"
Isaac Asimov

Nov 3, 2005, 12:58am

No AW_AVATAR_STATE_DEAD unfortunately.

The last action include chat as well tho.

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"Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those
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Isaac Asimov
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Nov 3, 2005, 7:46am

Yeah Bowen pointed that out too, will have to change that in my code 0_0,
thank god code doesnt need spell checking....

#define COLOURREF COLORREF

;)

All those IMPLIMENT_xx's are are sets of functions placed inline into the
class that add standard avatar control etc.

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Nov 8, 2005, 8:59pm

[View Quote] Ha, you are screwed then because the SDK has only been around for about 6.

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"Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those
of us who do"
Isaac Asimov

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