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Nov 25, 1998, 3:09pm

Actually, i was just being a wise-ass when I called dth that...
Was referring to him "swearing" :-)

grover

[View Quote] > Dthknight,
>
> You want to know why grover finds you childish.....
> You may not have noticed it, but I have asked you that same question 2 times
> already.
> Plz let me know via e-mail what you think childish about my 'contributions'
> to this thread.
>
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Nov 21, 1998, 11:04pm

hey, a magic-8-ball is *very* sophisticated! it's got, like plastic, and...
umm.... blue liquid. And... ummm.. and paint and stuff! And it answers any
question you ask it in mere seconds!

grover

[View Quote] > Please be comprehensive. They just got a bot to answer tels and it's not very
> sophisticate.:)
>
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Nov 26, 1998, 2:35pm

For a good indication of ways to limit "problem avatars", we might take a look
at other universes where custom avatars are legal and normal. During the year i was
in WC, I only ever saw 2 avatars that would fit into the "censorable" category, and
the guy who made them had enough discretion. But perhaps that's too isolated an
example... A better example might be Palace, where a user has the ability to easily
import any graphic in as their avatar. And yes, there are problems with people
using obscene avatars. But they are quickly ejected.
Both Palace and WC have limits on their avatars as well. Palace, for instance,
limits users to 9 44x44 pixel panels to keep the size and d/l reasonable. WC also
inherently has size limits on avatars- AW would almost certainly have to do the
same. Even if it were something as simple as imposing a 3m height limit
(configurable in world.ini), and scaling all avatars over 3m in any dimension down
to 3m. Or downright reject any avatar over, say, 2000 verts (configurable) But
these worlds would all require a person with ejection rights to enforce other
censorship policies. Sure, you get the kind in Palace who run around wearing XXX
pics, but not as many as you may think... I actually can't think of any offhand.
Another ban idea might be to ban avatars from certain URLs (ie, a user account's
address like http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/5728/)- kiddies might get used to logging
off and logging back on to bypass a ban, but it would get tiresome to keep creating
new xoom accounts to keep moving their avatars to.
But best of all, tourists would not be a problem. So right there we eliminate
95% of the problem people by the simple requirement that they cough up $20 :-)

grover

[View Quote] > I shouldn't enter this universe??? So, someone's "free speech" supercedes my
> freedom to enter the universe and not be visually assaulted or own a world and
> keep the theme consistent???? How arrogant!
>
> Why is it always the ones who desire a place to be decent who are always looked
> upon unfavorably. Why does the pervert always get looked upon as the
> victim? Why do people jump all over someone in a newsgroup for calling a
> friend a "snatch," while at the same time defending the right to call someone a
> "snatch" in chat? I think it is just as hypocritical as they accuse us
> Christians of being.
>
> Although I am appalled at it when it happens, and have compassion for the victim
> of the attack, I see it as another hypocrisy. It seems that such attacks
> are protected by the free speech advocates as long as it happens to an unknown,
> not themselves or someone they care about.
>
> Besides, why is it always freedom to commit indecency that is the great "freedom
> of speech" campaign? What about my freedom? What about the freedom of
> those who frequent my world? Who stands up for their freedom?
>
> If you think I am a prude, I am not easily offended, but I do have others to
> think about and I do wish to protect the theme of my world. And I am sick of
> seeing "freedom of speech" being used to protect juveniles with loose tongues,
> perverts and malicious hacks.
>
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Nov 30, 1998, 9:03pm

oh boy! is it Q+A time with roland? I have a question! Will be each be
able to register 1 custom avatar per citizen account, or will we be able
to switch around as we see fit? Or, what it we register one file name,
then upload a new file and don't notify COF about it?

grover

[View Quote] > Subject:
> Re: Custom avs are here! - yippee!
> From:
> Roland Vilett <roland at lmi.net>
>
> Okay.
>
> -Roland
>
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Dec 1, 1998, 11:03pm

Not in the way he's planning to impliment tho. In the current hash, it sounds
like COF must approve the custom avatar before they will allow the user to
assign it as their custom av. From his "aw shit" response, it sounds almost
like he's adding another line to the citizen registry for the avatar URL- this
would be a "simple" way of working the registration, and keep the vulgar/buggy
avs out.

grover

[View Quote] > *puts on his padding*
> Okey, this may disturb nearly none of you. So don't brace yerself.
> i hope he NEVER add the cutom object/avatar features.
>
> Why? Because it will bring a whole new way of vandalizing, responsibility,
> making up too much lag,etc etc.
>
> Say this avatar sports a giant nude pic walking around GZ, or it has a
> zillion vertexes, or it says like 'Boo hoo to COF' etc etc.
>
> i'd hate it! truly hate it!
>
> cheese
>
> --
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Check out my homepage, it is chocked full of awesome graphics!
> http://thecheese.home.ml.org
> Maybe check out my town in AW!
> AW- 10000N 500W
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Dec 5, 1998, 10:28pm

There are bots you can download that will do this for you- it's much more
versatile than anything built into AW could be. I know Donald Dahlman has a
sophisticated one; I'm not sure if he's distributing it yet, though. You may
also want to do a search in the SDK group on this- chances are, whoever else
wrote one would have mentioned it there.

Steve Fehr

[View Quote] > I wish COF would implement day and night. Or at least a possibility for
> world-owners to switch it on.
> And I don't necessarily want it to be a *24*-hour cyclus. Maybe that should
> be left a choice for the world-owner.
> Like (after Rolu's idea) 32 hours; that's much cooler.
> Cuz then, if you'd visit AW every night at the same time (RL), then you'd
> see a different stage everyday. (Night, noon, dawn, etc.)
>
> We don't have to copy RL to AW. So why take 24hour-cyclus if something else
> is cooler or more logical.
> I mean let's face it.. What the heck is 24 supposed to be? 104 devided by 4
> and then reduced by the square-root of the difference between 39 and 37...
> ;-)
> Why not take 25 or 32 or hundred.

Dec 6, 1998, 1:35am

Actually, I believe 24 was chosen because, like 360, it can be evenly split many
different ways. Which was important because the ancients didn't have
calculators and floating points- they had to do all the math in their heads and
on stone tablets :-) Who's the guy in here with that useless factoids book?
hehe

[View Quote] > A simple calculation shows that
>
> 104/4 = 26;
> sqrt(39-37) = sqrt(2)
>
> However, 26-sqrt(2) != 24
>
> I know your spelling sucks, but I hoped your math would be better ;-)
>
> --
>
> [ Fluxen Dean-Christian Strik ]
> [ ICQ: 11760568 ISG RhinoSoft ]
> [ fluxen at bigfoot.com dean2 at bigfoot.com ]
>
> The nice thing of standards is that there are so many to choose from.
> -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum
>
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Dec 15, 1998, 7:32pm

create name piece1, visible on, solid on; activate sound wav1.wav, visible off,
solid off, visible piece2 on, solid piece2 on

create name piece2, visible off, solid off; activate sound silence.wav, visible off,
solid off, visible piece1 on, solid piece1 on

I believe something like this will work, with the syntax corrected, of course :-)

[View Quote] > Perhaps, you can use an interactive process between two objects that are
> identical and occupy the same space. On the first object clicked could be a
> command that will start the sound while making itself invisible and making the
> other object visible at the same time.
>
> I am not sure how it would be done, but you can contact King Tex for help. He
> showed me how to make doors that will open and close, which is the first
> animated building project I had ever done.
>
> Well, I could at least try to explain my idea further.
>
> OK, both objects will need to be named and referred to in the other object.
> When the first object is clicked, it must "tell" the sound to start while also
> "telling" the other object to become visible while it becomes invisible.
> When the other object, which is now visible, gets clicked it tells itself to
> become invisible and the first object to become visible again while also telling
> the sound to stop.
>
> One object should have the desired sound and the other object should have
> silence.wav or astop, or whatever. Yes, I know you don't want to use
> silence.wav, but it might work if done correctly.
>
> Please contact King Tex. He can probably show you how to do something like
> that.
>
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Dec 19, 1998, 2:27am

no, i was playing Doom for a year defore AW came out... and the reason AW
doesn't have 3D support is because all those 3D games switch to full-screen
lo-res mode. if aw would switch to that (which you can in one of the voodoo
drivers) it's got kick-ass speed too. But the gui would suck, you wouldn't be
able to talk, etc. The problem for speed is that it is a windowed program-
there are currently very few accellerators that work with windowed programs.

grover

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Dec 19, 1998, 2:33am

don't wanna burst yer bubble, but yer not the first to propose any of
this... not even the 2nd or third. Believe me- an awful lot of
professional corporate/consultant types have come through with big
ideas, but unless you've got considerable capitol to invest, you might
as well write your posts on toilet paper and chuck it out the window for
the wind to deliver... (and to continue another thread- it's not that
you're new in this ng, it's that you *come across* as a know-it-all that
really doesn't know much.) lurk & learn :-)

grover

[View Quote] > Warning long post <MBASpeakOn> OK, I've read back and absorbed most of
> the basis for your gripes. My basic analysis is that COF is an
> undercapitalised IT start-up suffering the fate of many of its ilk -it
> is product focussed. They have become so busy chasing their tales
> that customer focus has been lost, yet they dont have the time to
> stand back and het a helicopter view of the operation, nor the $ to
> effectivey get out of their rut. They have fallen into the "build a
> better moustrap and the world will beat a path to your door" trap. I
> believe, and Rick or Roland could comment on this, that not enough
> attention has been paid to marketing: and by this i do not mean
> selling, i mean the concept of: 1. Identifying the range of
> customners (individual, corporate, potential buy-out)2. Identifying
> their needs3. Tailoring the 4 P's to meed these actual and future
> needs ie: Product tailoring the product to meet the needs of all
> customers (not just individual users) Price tailoring the product
> to market mechanisms (this is not a premium product hence in
> general terms higher price = lower sales above te
> market expectation baseline) Promotion personal selling, sales
> promotion, publicity and advertising...perhaps COFs biggest
> failing...the quality of the product and its innovation caused
> reasonable offline attention in the early days, but have you seen
> anything since?and finally Place how the product is
> available...options might include bundling with other higher profile
> products and so on...4. Once growth is established in identified
> markets, we can go into the improvement cycle..both improving the
> means that COF itself does business (ie the internal system how new
> products and ideas are developed), and product quality based on active
> customer research, rather than passive wiating for users ideas.5.
> once we go down the continuous improvement path, new markets can be
> identified for product development and growth. Basically, what i am
> saying is that COF needs to get more market focussed and less product
> focussed. capital inflow from expaning and retaining the client base
> will get them out of their stuck at small position. OK, Options: 1.
> COF pays for a marketing consultant to come and solve the problem,
> or2. we the community help them do it (if they dont have the $ for
> additional programmers, i doubt they will pay for a marketing
> consultant) I propose that we set up a small working group of
> individuals who are prepared to do some research and thinking (and
> those who will contribute and not gripe), come up with a preliminary
> study and plan option, present it to COF and ask to be allowed inside
> their decision making process. if there is any one interested in doing
> this work, please email me at watt at cia.com.au <sceptics flame
> here> Does anyone have a AW web site that could be the central point
> for such a working group? As we meet new users in AW with business
> expertise we could refer them to our page. I would suggest the
> following phases: Market segmentation : lets broadly break the task
> up (at first) into 1) individual users (current and
> potential), 2) individual world owners (current and potential)
> 3) corporate world owners (current and potential) 4) corporate
> advertisers(current and potential) 5) individual third party
> developers(current and potential) 6) corporate third party
> developers(current and potential) 7) potential buy-outs We can
> then do market research based on a) geographic segmentation b)
> demographic segmentation -age, - sex,
> - education, - lifecycle stage (child, teenager, young
> adult, married with children, profession
> couple-nochildren) middleages, pensioner etc) -
> occupation c) psychological segmentation - social
> class - interests - opinions -
> personality types d) behaviour segmentation - usage
> rates - loyalty status (what would make you change
> environments?) - buyer readiness stage Competitor
> analysis We need to provide COF access to all information, plus our
> analysis, of all current and potential competitors. We can actively
> go out and find this information which will provide insight into where
> we can and cant compete. Strategic Planning based on Market
> Research Once the current and potential users have been analysed, it
> should provide pointers of which market segments to target. COF will
> need to be in on this process. Determining the marketing mix.Based on
> the 4P's above, COF strategic guidance, and targeted markets, effort
> can be made in price, promotion and place, not just in product
> development. Things we can ask COF to do 1) Provide access to their
> strategic planning documents, or at least a summary of their strategic
> goals and intermediate objectives.2) Access to, or summary of any
> previous market research.2) conduct a lost user questionaire based on
> existing db email addresses...ie why did you stop using
> AW? </MBASpeakOff> Overall, if we want COF to move ahead we must
> help. I am sure that there are any number of users with business
> experience, not just users full of complaints. Your thoughts
> appreciated.

Dec 23, 1998, 5:07pm

I've heard a lot of people ask for that one, actually... Mostly it was included with "make AW into ICQ" posts, but others pictured it as in just handing an object to other people like in snow crash. All it would need is a graphical counterpart...

grover

[View Quote] > Nor I. I've never heard of ANYONE asking for that. I'm sure Rick and/or JP thought it would be "cool" though. So Roland, like the obedient paid lackey that he is (heh) has to implement it. Ah, gotta "love" corporate (or how about just stupid, idiotic, and lame) decisions, eh? Oh, wait, this is COF I'm talking about here...NEVER MIND.
>
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Jan 2, 1999, 11:53pm

A lot of people would rather have a nice shiny 4-banger Miata than a rusted out Impala, even if that Impala happened to have a supercharged 350 and could do the quarter mile in 11 seconds...

grover

[View Quote] > Oh yea...like that's a valid excuse. There's a word for people like that: morons. And if COF is adding stupid fluff features to AW just for "looks", they're even more moronic than the morons who look at AW's "features" yet never actually "drive" it. Feh...gimme a break...
>
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Jan 2, 1999, 11:59pm

geez, so the kid's dad's address shows in his posts... it's not the end of the
world! So long as he signs it, we'll know who it's from. There's no sense
having to set up logins on a PC if you don't need to worry about security; it's
just a pain in the ass otherwise.

But, Andrew, if you wanted your own settings in Netscape, just set up the
password options for multiple-user login. Netscape will automatically use the
logged-in users settings if it's configured that way; it'll be just as if you
had two identical computers.

grover

[View Quote] > ok then it's fine
>
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Jan 5, 1999, 11:38pm

But the car is running fine! Sure, the alternator whines a bit and she struggles up the tall hills- but if ya live in a flat state (ie, decently fast PC like celery 300+) and aren't obsessed about top speed, the sunroof makes better sense. Of course if you're into muscle cars, you wouldn't care about the air conditioner and power locks- It's mere preference anyhow. My point being, a huge % of the people would rather opt for keyless entry and a 10-disk changer than the V8! Just because you'd rather have a TV-like frame rate doesn't make it gospel. Although it is a rather good analogy- carries along pretty
far :-)

grover



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Jan 6, 1999, 7:37pm

Grover had a P100 until about 4 months ago. Now I have a PII-400. AW ran fine
on both. Needless to say, it runs better on the PII-400, but 90% of the time it
bogged down, it was because of idioticly agressive scenes (full of 25-frame
animations and 3000-vert objects) demanding so much RAM my hard drive went
a-chugging. RAM is much more important to AW than pure processing speed, imho-
Before the hard drive light came on, I rarely had a complaint with my P100.
3fps isn't good enough to play an action game, but AW ain't an action game so it
never bothered me.

grover

Besides, if you don't like yer car, you just buy one you like better, duh!

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Jan 6, 1999, 10:37pm

[View Quote] >
> Shyea right. AW ran like shit on your P100 and you know it. I have a Pentium-class AMD-K5-PR133 (99MHz) and AW runs like shit on it. Why are you defending AW so much? You know its 3D engine sucks so get off the debate stint, eh? CPU is the most important part in 3D rendering (and if AW supported 3D hardware better, the 3D CPU would be next important). RAM is secondary (or triary).

I'm not defending AW in that respect; I concur that it's slower than Quake or TR. I'm simply disagreeing with you that speed is the *only* factor worth considering for this envoronment. Bells and whistles count for a lot more than rote speed for an application like this, and *that* is what I'm arguing.

>
>
>
> Right, and in this case, the car is AW, not a computer. Changing analogies to try and prove your point ain't gonna work...
>

How is that changing the analogy??? If you're comparing AW's 3D engine to the motor, and options like a sunroof to the extra little nicities in AW, than you're saying that the AW-car is a certain combination of engine, styling and options. And if in RL you don't like the combination of engine/styling and options, and the dealer says "sorry, that's the only engine we offer" than you
just hit the road and buy a sports car. Just as in RL, there are tons of other 3D programs out there with different combos of rendering engines and bells & whistles for you to choose from... By your own arguments you say that other programs out there are pure speed at the omission of the nicities. So if speed is your only concern, why not switch software to something more your
liking?

Well, that was a rhetorical question, but I think I know the answer: it's the nicities that make AW. TR III has a fast engine and good graphics. But lacks such fundamental nicities as a simple chat interface! Which pretty much cripples it's usefulness. Same with Quake.

grover

Jan 6, 1999, 10:43pm

[View Quote] [View Quote] that's not fair, Eep- Within the context, most people would have assumed you simply contracted DirectX to DX, unless they've heard of the DX brand. Which, considering the DX isn't exactly the most touted product in the world, is understandable! I *am* a native english speaker, btw. Perhaps it's
YOU that need to work on your communication skills if people constantly misunderstand what you're trying to say?

grover

Jan 18, 1999, 12:37pm

You already can send multiple files in a session. Just select a bunch when
you're in the common-dialog box :-)

grover

[View Quote] > I think that, if you could pull this off Roland, you'd be the MAN! Not that
> you aren't already, just saying :)
>
> Okay, here it is...
>
> 1.) Status Bar (Extremely Easy, just take the Bytes Sent, or Received out of
> the total, and then Divide, to get a Percentage, then simply make a status
> bar...)
>
> 2.)Ability to resume File Transfers, I'm sure there's documentation on the
> WEB about this, as a matter of fact, I recall someone giving out the Source
> Code for an ActiveX Control that could do this same thing...
>
> And lastly, one should be able to send Multiple files in a session...
>
> I guess what I'm trying to say, is... It'd be cool if you made it easier to
> use, such as the ICQ type Interface, etc...
>
> -Andon13

Jan 22, 1999, 8:59pm

I've heard that this request is on the list, and has been there for a
few years now. I don't believe they're currently planning on
implimenting it though.

grover

[View Quote] >
> Well at least if you have yer own world it's no problem.
> If not then I don't know, really.
>
> --
> Cubic
> ICQ - 18557607
> cubic at mediaport.org
> http://welcome.to/cubic

Jan 29, 1999, 8:39pm

To tell you the truth, Eep- I don't like the way you have your website set up.
I never did like the pick-list at the top, and the ordering seems too
haphazard. Could you add a "Search" function to make it easier to find what
we're looking for? Or better yet, can you make the entire format configurable
so we can use it with different kinds of index frames??

grover

[View Quote] > OH OK FINE YOU DO THAT SUPERCHAMP HAVE A NICE DAY DRIVE THROUGH TAH
>
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Jan 30, 1999, 2:50pm

Actually, I didn't mean this post as a specific attack on your website, but more as an example. Before angrily replying to me, please put yourself in Roland's shoes- it takes just as much (if not More) effort for him to "customize" aw as it would take you to customize your web site. I just wanted to demonstrate to you what you were
asking, in a context you'd take personally.

[View Quote] [View Quote] Yes, I occasionally do because it IS a decent site with a lot of content, and even I forget some syntax. More often, I just look to see what you're talking about when you're constantly referencing your site to problems on which I didn't recall it applying to... But I do refer a Lot of people to your site when they've got specific
questions. (I especially like your .seq section, hehehehe).


>
>
>
> The order is just how I thought people would want to approach RWXing:
>
> <snip>
>
> What's haphazard about that? If you know a way to dynamically change the search list, and have it customizable for people (which might require the use of login scripts, cookies, etc--way too complicated for a simple site such as mine), feel free to send the code over. :)

The basic information is organized adequately, I suppose. But trying to find an anwser to a specific question is often difficult: not everyone approaches a problem like you do, and (imho) you place undo emphisis on some things, and place others in odd categories. But this isn't wrong, just not the way I would have handled it.

You're intimately familiar with the site and so can just rattle off an html#suchandsuch when looking for a specific answer. Few others can find things that easily. (And that search link didn't work, btw- shoulda been http://tnlc.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi ) Thanks for that search link, btw!

grover

Jan 27, 1999, 8:30pm

Would you rather be forced to upgrade your software every few hours, Eep? Because that's often what is entailed as you fix
each individual bug. I can tell you from experience that people tend to get tired of that veeery quickly, unless it was
*their* bug that just got fixed. Hence, you only give updates when it's either a serious deficiency, or after a certain
period of time. Otherwise, the user just begins to ignore the updates and it accomplishes nothing.

grover

[View Quote] > Exactly, Dean. Rolu's reasoning is a prime example of programmer narrowmindedness...they just can't see outside the box...
>
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Jan 27, 1999, 9:53pm

[View Quote] > And if programmers programmed correctly in the FIRST place, there WOULDN'T be so many versions with bug fixes. :)

ahh, to be an idealist again :-)

Jan 28, 1999, 8:25pm

I do the same thing, but instead go yyyyddd. That way, it's a straightforward <
> calculation to see which build's older :-) AND y2k complient! <g>

grover

[View Quote] > Hehe, it should be 031498 :)
>
> --
>
> [ Fluxen Dean-Christian Strik ]
> [ ICQ: 11760568 ISG RhinoSoft ]
> [ fluxen at bigfoot.com dean2 at bigfoot.com ]
>
> The nice thing of standards is that there are so many to choose from.
> -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum
>
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Jan 30, 1999, 8:10pm

Would you consider a .pdf file a "website"? No, you'd consider it a file. But what if ms made a plugin that allowed ie to read
it? it's still a file, but you'd apparently now call it a website!

grover

[View Quote] > Site, page, same dif...as soon as you put something up on the web it becomes a web PAGE and/or SITE. Wee...
>
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Jan 27, 1999, 12:13am

If it's too big a wav to upload, you always have the option of converting it into
a .ra file, and calling it like a web page with a create URL. Realaudio will then
launch, download it, and play in the background :-) but embedded mp3 would be
even nicer, hehe

grover


[View Quote] > Well I just started reading this newsgroup thismorning and so I am not up to
> date on what has been discussed here in the past. All I know is that I have
> some wav files that are important in my world and I need to make them smaller.
> Midi files wont work for what I am doing and the wav is way too big.
>
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Jan 27, 1999, 8:26pm

<smack> but mp3s need special DECODING script in order to be decoded by a wav player. Just cos it ends in .wav doesn't mean it's a
compatible format. Here's an idea- try uploading an .mp3 file into AW as a .wav and see if it plays. Does it??? Never did for me, but
I'm just a part-time programmer, and not a professional "QA" guy so I of course know absolutely nothing about computers... Don't
bother me, twip! If you're gonna try and belittle my posts, you at least coulda come up with something better, like "what if their web
browser isn't open?"

grover

[View Quote] > Hellllooooo, all MP3 is is an ENCODING format for WAVs. It's already possible in AW since AW already supports WAVs. Drive through...
>
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Jan 27, 1999, 9:47pm

Actually, I'm very good at the programs I do, which are mostly numerical-based to aid in scientific problems. I don't pretend to be the know-all god of win.api that you do. But the fact remains that you STILL NEED THE CODEC TO RUN MP3S IN AW! Which is
*exactly* what I said in my last post; And why are you constantly contradicting yourself? In one post you state "You need extra code to play .mp3s in AW" then turn around and say "AW can already plays mp3s because mp3s are just wavs" Do you have any idea at
all of how wavs actually work? Or how to embed MCI or OLE devices in a program? Do you have any idea of what it would take to actually implement what you consider "simple"? I didn't think so.

So, until you send everyone using AW a driver that will allow us to play .mp3 files with any windows MCI program, I'll keep saying that AW doesn't support .mp3 files.

grover

[View Quote] > Heh, you idiot. Did you even BOTHER to read my OTHER response to the original message in

duh. like i'd skip the message you wrote yesteday but reply to this one. OF COURSE I READ IT.

> this thread? I doubt it. Duh, you need the CODEC installed to play them. I stated that in my original reply. You're not a very good part-time programmer either, I bet. ;P
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> And note your wacky line length. Up it, champ, so it doesn't look like shit:

hey, don't ask me to reformat my posts, just cos you don't run your screen at 1280x1024. Besides, don't you remember the problems people have with *your* posts? You know, the one where people with the default settings see your posts as a single line??

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Jan 28, 1999, 10:08pm

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[View Quote] > Uh huh. Sure it is. Shut up. Note how you didn't leave quoted what you thought you said. How ironic...drive through, sport.

I paraphrased, champ, paraphrased. No quotes required for that.

> Gee, all I did to play MP3-encoded WAVs was install the CODEC. You must just be an idiot if you can't figure THAT much out. Wee...

Right. And since my TV has a clock in it, it must be as wasy to manufacture as an alarm clock. After all, I only need to plug them in to use them!

[So, your "idiotically" simple solution to this is to get Roland to liscense the rights to MS Mplayer, so that he can use it to install the mp3 CODECS?]

Here's another question for ya: can the windows mp3-CODECS handle streaming mp3? Cos that's gonna be the next request... Or for that matter, ra! after all, ra is getting better in quality, and still kicks the pants off mp3 for teeny size. Do ra-CODECS exist for MCI?


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> I don't NEED that in my header for others to READ my posts. People can READ them just fine. I just tired of having to TELL people the obvious each time they mentioned how my posts didn't wordwrap. Now learn how to specify line length correctly so YOUR posts don't look all shitty on <1280x1024 resolutions. Duh. Idiot.
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Perhaps it's not everyone else that's the problem Eep- did you ever stop to think that it's your options that could be in err? No, of course you didn't... because you're the infallible zippy the wonder-win!

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> And you enjoy being repetitive (hey, just like your infinitely-repeating ground!) by putting your name at the end of all your posts. It's obvious they're YOUR posts. That's what the "duh" was for, champ. Duh (for your inability to grasp this simple concept).

Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! At least *I* can grasp the deep intellectual concept of sarcasm!
Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! Duh!! <- cos I enjoy being repetitive :-)

grover <- cos I like to sign my letters, even though who I am is *clearly* marked in the return address on the envelope!

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