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Aug 31, 2001, 4:14pm

Down, boy, down! I never claimed to be a leader, nor do I see myself as
one. I'm merely a guy trying to help out the AW Community in any way I
can. Heck, I was planning to just get the Union set up and organized and
then step back and let the reps run the show and move on to something
else. I don't really have any interest in running such an org 24/7.

[View Quote] > oh well, give us someone better... oops, that isn't possible... solution for
> you: leave AW. Goober King is really the best leader we have in the AW
> community, he's very nice and he has leader qualities... Don't worry, I
> don't expect you to agree. oh, and you started this stupid thread anyway,
> and you did it because our good friend E N Z O got you just where he wants
> you with his sad story about people using all their food money on AW...
>
> KAH
>
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--
Goober King
He can barely lead Goobers to water!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Sep 1, 2001, 12:29am

Surely you jest! I fear for all the 12 yr olds who would look up to me,
especially considering I despise most of them! :P

[View Quote] > How about just role model? :)
> --
> Chris
> Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
> http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
>
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--
Goober King
Why can't they start making *smart* 12 yr olds!?
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Sep 2, 2001, 5:56am

That also qualifies as a casual setting; we already knew each other and
I was just checking on him. I wasn't "representing" any one then, except
for myself. And I have plenty of respect for those who deserve it.

Sorry if I don't live up to your definiton of "leader", but you'll just
have to get used to the idea. It certainly seems as if your definition
is in the minority...

Oh, and memo to Explorer: Those who are truly humble do not judge those
they think are not...

[View Quote] > You smirked when appearing at a newly founded city to make sure your sign
> was up at gz. You are a representative of those whose pictures appear on
> your signs. I've never seen E N Z O or Cryonics or Protagonist represent
> the citizens here by a *smirk*. Get humble, Bub, and while you are at it,
> get some respect.
>
> AW Explorer (Proudly sitting on my dirt floor in my mud house!)
>
[View Quote] --
Goober King
Humbly humbling the humble since 1995...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Sep 2, 2001, 4:43pm

The dictionary defines it as "An affected, often offensively
self-satisfied smile". However, as I had stated previously, I use it to
indicate sarcasm, which is hard to do in a text-only environment.

At any rate, the whole point is that whether you smirk or not has no
bearing on your effectiveness as a "leader".

[View Quote] > smirk means some kind of self-satisfied, affected, silly, offensive way
> to smile...or better I think so as I am also a foreigner
> icey
>
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--
Goober King
He's got happiness in his life! *smirk* :P
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Sep 3, 2001, 12:40am

Well, perhaps if we were using the dictionary definition of "smirk", I
would agree, but again, that was never my intent when using it, nor was
I trying to offend anyone. And I think I would know when it would be
inappropriate to smirk.

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--
Goober King
Yeesh... people getting so worked up over an emote!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 1, 2001, 11:35am

I must say, I'm disappointed.

I'm disappointed in Flagg, who seemed to think that our letter was all about *my*
concerns and *my* ideas and that *I* was somehow personally wronged by the company,
which is not the case. I'm disappointed in Rick Noll, who seemed to think that all we
wanted was for citships to be free, worlds to be near-free, and AWCom to go out of
business, which is farthest from the truth.

But most of all, I'm disappointed in this community. When I first posted my letter
here and at AWNews, I got all sorts of responses from people, but most of them boiled
down to "Well said!" or "Amen!" or "Go Goob!" or what have you. I took that to mean
that everyone who signed that letter was fully behind me and agreed with me. I
thought that, for once, the community (at least, the newsgroup community) was united
in a singular cause, with a few nay-sayers on the side.

Apparently, I was wrong.

I posted the response from AWC here in these newsgroups last Friday, expecting that I
would at least get some people either agreeing or disagreeing with the response.
Instead, what did I get? Silence. Out of the almost 40 people who signed that letter,
2 of them actually responded to the response. The rest were from people who never
agreed with the letter in the first place, and essentially became an ENZO cheering
section.

What happened to all the support? Where are all of the people who were nodding their
heads and signing that letter? Now that we finally have our answer, are we just going
to go back into our little holes and say "Well, there you have it." ? I just don't
know anymore...

And to all of the unseen readers of this newsgroup that are in the upper echelons of
AWC, I will only say this: This was never about features. This was never about world
prices, or telegram privacy, or replacing textures or any of that. It was a simple
request; a request that you demonstrate more interest in this community you
supposedly care for so much.

In case you didn't notice, this community is dying. Worlds like COFMeta, WildAW,
Atlantis, and many others stand empty where once they were full. Organizations like
AWHS and AWEC are all but dead, while others like ComReg and Info Squares are not
long for this world. Reports of PK abuse and neglect are on the rise, and nothing is
being done. And all those AWC employees who want to help the community can't because
they get ignored just like the citizens.

You want to know what *my* concerns are? My concerns have always been for the health
and well-being of this community, something that was completely avoided in AWC's
response. But now it seems that the community doesn't care about itself either. So I
am left to wonder why I even bother. And that is the biggest disappointment of all.

I'm disappointed in myself...

--
Goober King
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 2, 2001, 12:26am

heh sorry about the confusing heading... Felt it was appropriate with all the
Survivor stuff going on... Guess it was a bit *too* appropriate... *smirk*

[View Quote] --
Goober King
Next time, it'll say "AWC is the Weakest Link. Goodbye!" :P
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 2, 2001, 12:30am

No one's stopping you from making a weatherbot; it's not as if the idea was Brant's.
(just look at AWC's crappy attempt :P) However, if you were to make one almost
exactly like it, using the same code, the same time schedule, the same backdrops,
etc, *then* that would most definitely be copyright infringement, and Brant could sue
yer ass for all you're worth. (and he would be right in doing so)

[View Quote] --
Goober King
If you have to ask, it's probably not a good idea...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 2, 2001, 10:53am

Netscape! *grin*

[View Quote] --
Goober King
Can't go wrong, man!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 3, 2001, 3:48pm

I have a slight confession to make. My reasons for posting Flagg's and ENZO's
responses here in the NG were two-fold. First and foremost, it was to give the
community AWC's side of the story. My second reason, however, was to see exactly how
many people actually were interested in what they had to say, and it seemed as if
there weren't that many people, hence my "Disappointment..." post. Well, I guess it's
time to stop being subtle about all this and get right down to brass tacks.

It's time for Step 2.

There was one small snippit in Rick's response that caught my attention, and I'm not
sure if anyone else caught it. It went a little something like this: "All of us here
want AW to be a better place. AW is not just about software, it is about people. The
reason we work here is to make it happen. We enjoy it and we enjoy the community you
all have created. We want you to enjoy AW as much as we do. We would be happy to work
with you in any reasonable way." If I read that correctly, it means that Rick himself
is extending the olive branch and is willing to work with us towards bettering AW as
a whole.

Now, as some of you may or may not know, a man by the name of Sprawler had set up a
"Citizens Union" about a month ago, in the hopes that it would act as the people's
voice for AWC and work as a middleman group between the community and AWC to help get
things done. Unfortunately, Sprawler has since come down with a rather debilitating
illness and is unable to continue maintaining the org, so he decided to hand over the
reigns of the org to me. I had been letting it sit dormant, trying to figure out how
to make it work, but Rick's olive branch has now supplied us with the perfect
opportunity to make it work.

So, if you're interested in helping get this off the ground, I'll be holding a
meeting at the Orion Amphitheater in GooberTown (AW 65.2s 3740.8w 324) directly after
TechTalk today. The main purpose of this meeting will be to figure out how exactly
the CU should be set up and whatever else needs to be addressed. Once we get all the
details ironed out, I'll bring it to Rick and the others and we'll see if we can't
work something out.

I realize this is rather short notice, but I figure most of the people who show up to
TT are the ones interested in helping AW, so it should work out fine. And Facter, I
would appreciate it if you could pass this on to the rest of the AWC squad. Maybe we
could get some AWC representation at this meeting and we can all work together to get
this thing going.

See you after TechTalk! :)

--
Goober King
And so it begins... again...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 4, 2001, 1:00am

Thanks to everyone who came to the CU Brainstorming meeting. Got lots of good input
from everyone! For those who were unable to make it, here's the plan we got so far:

1. Appoint 5 representatives, one for each category of concerns (Tentative list:
Community, Worlds, Objects, Features, and General)

2. Hold (weekly? bi-weekly?) structured meetings that are open to the public where
they can voice concerns and ideas. The Union reps will then compile these concerns
into prioritized lists.

3. The reps will then have a meeting with AWC staff once a month to relay and lobby
concerns to the staff and receive explanations about requests and concerns, which
will then be relayed back to the community during community meetings and on the
(soon-to-be-revamped) website at http://citizenunion.cjb.net

4. Every so often, there will be elections to determine new reps for each category.

That's the plan so far. The next step is to present this idea to Rick & Co. and make
sure they'll cooperate with it. Once that goes through, we can choose the first round
of reps and then start having community meetings!

For the complete log of the first meeting, visit
http://utn.haveman.net/citunion/CUMeeting1.txt

Again, thanks to all who attended! With your help, we *can* make a difference!

--
Goober King
Time to get the ball.rwx rolling...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 5, 2001, 2:25pm

This is why the Union will be kept to five people. Those will be the only people that
interact with AWC and it will be kept professional and to the point. The community
meetings, on the other hand, may degenerate into AWC hate sessions, but it will be up
to the Union reps that are running it to be able to pick out the gems of suggestions
and ideas from all the crap being spewed forth and turn it into something presentable
for AWC. The Union sifts the dirt to find the gold :)

[View Quote] --
Goober King
Citizen Union - Gold Diggers
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 5, 2001, 2:29pm

An itemized list definitely sounds like a good idea. In fact, I was picturing having
on the CU website a page that list all concerns brought to the Union and their
current status, whether they're being worked on, have been implemented, or rejected,
and giving reasons for why they were rejected.

As for AWC working with this, that's the next step. Before anyone is appointed as a
rep, we need to make sure AWC is cool with the idea and is willing to work with it.
And since no one at AWC seems to check their email on the weekends, we'll have to
wait until Monday for an answer, I guess. :-/

[View Quote] --
Goober King
The ball's in their court now...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 5, 2001, 2:31pm

Basically it's for anyone who has object ideas for AWC-owned public building worlds.
For instance, if some wants to see some new objects in COFMeta, that will get added
to the list of Object concerns and put forth to AWC. But it doesn't deal with any
other aspect of world owning; that's what the "Worlds" category is for :)

[View Quote] --
Goober King
Had to put *something* there :P
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 5, 2001, 8:51pm

*nod* Roland has stated on numerous occasions that better privacy features, including
telegram blocking and "getting rid of the green checkmark" are some of the most
requested features. This'll definitely be a big one on the first agenda!

[View Quote] --
Goober King
Heh... getting ahead of ourselves...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 6, 2001, 5:14pm

Amen! Of course, the sad part is that most of those tgrams I receive are from people
I *do* know :P

[View Quote] --
Goober King
Newbie 12 yr olds: Note well!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 6, 2001, 3:11am

Here's the official Proposal I just shipped out to Rick & Co, word for word. As you
can see, it gives them quite a bit of say in how this will all play out. The ball's
in their court now...

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Thank you for taking the time to respond to our letter. We're glad to hear that you
are willing to work with us to help make this community a better place. Therefore, it
is in this spirit of community interest that we offer you this proposal to help
bridge the gap between customer and company and ensure that all concerns are
addressed in a fair and reasonable manner.

--------------------------------

The Citizens Union

The proposed Citizens Union ("the Union") would act as a vehicle for citizens of the
AW Universe to voice whatever concerns they feel need to be addressed. The Union
would then distill these concerns into a presentable format that could be taken to
ActiveWorlds Corp. ("the Company") The Company could then look over these concerns
and address each as necessary, offering assurances that they will be met, or offering
reasons why they will not be met. The Union can then take that correspondence and
present it to the AW Community at large. In this way, the Union will act as the voice
for both the AW Community as well as the Company, and help to improve relations
between the two.

Here is how we propose to accomplish this goal:

1. Appoint 5 representatives for the AW Community, one for each category of concerns.
(Community, World, Features, Objects, and General) Each representative will be chosen
based on their competence and experience in dealing with their respective category.
These representatives could then be reassigned through community elections every
year.

3. Create a website that will be the central source for all information concerning
the Union and its operation. Included on the site will be a Concerns Box that the
community can use to submit concerns to the Union representatives, as well as a link
to the Company's Suggestion Box. There will also be a page that will list all
concerns that have been presented to the Union, including their priority level and
their current status (Approved, Processing, or Rejected w/ reason for rejection)

3. Hold community meetings every month where all are welcome to attend and will be
allowed to offer ideas, suggestions, and concerns to the Union representatives. The
representatives will then catalogue all concerns and ideas presented and prioritize
them based on importance to the community and feasibility.

4. Hold a private meeting between the Company (preferably comprised of CEO Rick Noll,
CFO JP McCormick, Lead Programmer Roland Vilett, and other employees who would prove
capable of handling concerns from the various categories) and the Union
representatives following the community meeting. Each representative will present the
foremost concerns from his/her category and the Company can then deliberate and
either choose to move forward with implementation of the concern/idea, call for more
time to decide, (which, once a decision is reached, can then be sent to the
respective representative via email) or reject the proposal and offer a reason for
rejection. This information will then be displayed on the Union website as mentioned
above. The private meeting's time and location within the AW Universe will be
determined by the Company during the conclusion of the previous private meeting.

In this way, we hope to better serve both the AW community and the Company by
ensuring that concerns are addressed and responded to in a proper manner. The Company
is free to make any amendments to this proposal as it sees fit, including but not
limited to: protocol during private meetings, specific appointments of Union
representatives, and changes to the number of representatives and/or the concerns
categories. The community will then deliberate over said amendments and ratify them
in the form of the Citizens Union Charter which will be presented to the Company in
full for its ratification by the Company.

------------------------------------------

Again, we thank you for taking the time for hearing us out and choosing to work with
us. Together, we can make AW a better place for all.

Sincerely,
Bob Rodehorst
"Goober King" (#103935)

Aug 7, 2001, 7:23pm

Here's the response I just received from Rick concerning the Citizens Union Proposal,
word for word. Feel free to post your responses here, since it's obvious Mr. Noll
*does* read these newsgroups, but apparently doesn't read emails that get sent to
him...

[View Quote]

Aug 8, 2001, 3:58pm

It's obvious that quite a few people still don't seem to "get" the purpose of this
Union, so allow me to explain:

The Union is *not* for pushing the community's ideas through the AWC management and
getting them implemented. The Union is *not* about dictating to AWC what should and
should not be done. The Union is *not* solely for the people here in the newsgroups.
The Union is *not* out to destroy AWC and is *not* in any way, shape, or form
planning to "threaten AWC if our demands are not met."

What the Union *is* for is presenting the communities ideas, no matter how
far-fetched, to the AWC management for the *sole* purpose of getting their opinions
on such ideas. If the AWC management were to say at one of the private meetings,
"Yea, we could do that. It shouldn't be a problem." then we would ask them to
implement the idea. If, however, they were to say "Sure, it's a good idea, but we
just can't do that." then they would be expected to explain why it can't be done, and
that's it. There would be no attempts to argue the point or try and convince them
otherwise. All the Union is looking for is confirmation that these things can be
done, or explanations as to why things can't be done, nothing more.

All of this was *clearly* stated in the Proposal I posted here previously (see [CU]
Citizens Union Proposal) and sent to various AWC employees, yet as far as I can tell,
the only people who actually *read* the thing were John Viper and Wing. Everyone else
seemed to think the meeting log was some sort of official, binding discussion that
was to be the entire basis for the Union, when that was entirely *not* the case.

To all of those who think there's no way in hell this idea could work, I suggest you
go back and actually *read* the Proposal and take it for what it is. *That* is what
the Union will be based on, not some impromptu bullshit session. What kind of
organizer do you people take me for, any way? :P

--
Goober King
Now where'd he put that Reading Comprehension book...?
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 11, 2001, 3:48pm

Worlds Chat has the same kind of thing, except their avs are actually
3D. :) You can choose heads and arms and all sorts of other thing, even
pick the colors. It's definitely a good system, and I think AWC could
make a similar system for AW. But I agree that it would require a major
change to the current avatar system, so there's no point in working on
it now while they're still trying to get everyone up to the same level.
(i.e. nixing 2.2)

[View Quote] > Talk World, another 3-D chat program allows its users to assemble a custom
> avatar from a selection of heads, torsos (different shirts), upper leg/thigh
> (pants, skirts) area and feet (shoes, boots, etc.).
>
> The program also features voice chat as well as text and the ability to
> leave voice mail messages.
>
> http://www.talkworld-online.com/
>
> Nobody is ever there though....
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--
Goober King
Still prefers the ceramic fish...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 8, 2001, 10:26am

Reading Comprehension 101:

"note: i will not respond to any replys to this post!"

Granted, the spelling's a bit off, but the general gist of that statement is "Don't
bother replying!" Perhaps if you were to try email, you'd get better results...

[View Quote] --
Goober King
The student becomes the teacher...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 10, 2001, 11:33pm

Hey, while we're on the subject, think you'd want to become a teacher
for the new Event Coordination course at AWUniv, Bit? The Hall it's in
has your name on it! ;)

[View Quote] > Ummmmm...if any of you are interested in how to make your event successful,
> I will gladly tutor you as I have with one other individual whose event was
> a hit:)
> But please....not until after the Cys this round.....:)
>
>
>

--
Goober King
Look Ma! It's a plug *and* a request!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 10, 2001, 11:31pm

It seems to me that everyone's problems, including mine, are all based
on one simple thing: misunderstanding. It was a misunderstanding that
started the whole New York/Broadway mess, leading to the destruction of
trust and friendships. It was a misunderstanding that led to Facter
nearly banning, permanently, one of the newsgroups most... visible
residents. And it was a misunderstanding that turned what I thought was
going to help bridge the (non-existent?) gap between community and
company into an entity that was out to instead destroy both.

Well, I for one am tired of being misunderstood and of misunderstanding
everyone else. I would have liked to think we were all intelligent human
beings, capable of comprehension, understanding, and most importantly,
compromise. But sadly, the misunderstandings of the past run so deep
that it's almost impossible for either side to take the other at it's word.

There is, however, hope. Someone has decided to take it upon himself to
try and break down the walls of misunderstanding and try to start a new
relationship between the company and the community. That man is none
other than Rick Noll. He may not know it, but his actions here in this
NG speak volumes and proves to me, as it should for everyone else here,
that he is truly interested in getting the community out of this cloud
of misunderstanding and back on the right track. If this is truly a
trend in the making, then I commend Rick on his efforts, and I can only
hope we'll be able to see his face around these parts more often.

I failed because I was operating under the same cloud as everyone else.
Even though my intent was honest, my clouded thoughts and feelings wound
up ruining everything. But Rick is above this cloud because he knows
what's going on. It's now up to him to help lift this veil of confusion
and supposed conspiracy and bring this community back to where it
belongs. If anyone can do it, it's him.

P.S. I'd also like to take this time to publicly apologize to Rick for
posting his letter to me in the NG. Had I known it was meant solely as a
personal response, I would not have posted it. Just one more
misunderstanding to add to the pile... :-/

--
Goober King
Misunderstood since 1980...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 13, 2001, 8:02pm

Erm, are the warnings sent to the person via email? Because I don't
recall ever seeing you warn Lane here in these NGs...

Also, how is it that Lane was able to reply to this thread? Does the
suspension not go into effect until the next day?

[View Quote] > Unfortunatly, "Lanezeri" is the first to be suspended from these newsgroups
> until the 20th of August, under the recent one week suspension rule. It is
> in hopes that this one week of suspension from posting will allow him time
> to think about his recent actions and derogatory comments towards others
> here in the newsgroups, and we look forward to having him back on the 20th
> as a productive member of this newsgroup community.
>
> Under the new rules, we have decided upon incremental suspensions. Let me
> just break down how suspensions will work, as we think this is the fairest
> way to go about tempering some of the more inflamitary nature of individuals
> in here.
>
> There is a warning, if the content guidelines are infringed upon in a over
> the top manner, if the behaviour continues, the individual will receive a
> one week suspension. After that suspension, they are free to post in here
> again. On their second warning, if they continue after that, they will be
> suspended for two weeks. On a third warning, if they continue after that,
> they will be suspended for a month.
>
> A fourth suspension will be permanent.
>
> As you will see, they have six chances to avoid permanent suspension, and it
> is in large hopes that this system is fairly looked upon by all of you. I do
> read these NG's, but sometimes things slip by us, if there are specific
> problems that have not been addressed, please mail me about them and we'll
> look into them.
>
> I want to try and help these NG's get back to a good forum in which to
> converse about the software, where the debates can be ruled by intelligence
> as well as mutual respect, if you cannot respect one another for an
> individuals opinions, then there is no point in being here. I'm currently
> also looking into a web forum version of these newsgroups, so we can makybe
> get a larger cross section of people in here as well, we will see.
>
> Lets see if we can turn this NG into a productive environment, and we will
> all look forward to seeing Lanezeri again after his brief time out.
>
> --
> Fletcher Anderson
> Active Worlds Support
> Activeworlds.com
> support at activeworlds.com
>
>
>

--
Goober King
A public warning would everyone know *why*...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 14, 2001, 1:46am

It's NOME!!! Glad to see you've come out of hibernation, mein freund!

Can't wait to see this new project of yours! Still, I'll be cautiously
optimistic about it. Don't get me wrong, if even half the stuff you say
is true, then AW will have to scramble to catch up. However, let's not
get too far ahead of ourselves, shall we? (Remember what happened to
Shadowrun? :P) Neurotechnology and all that are a *ways* off yet, so
let's just stick with what we know first, and then we can worry about
the add-ons. At any rate, I'll be looking forward to this weekend :)

Oh, and btw, your Transit is in good hands! :)

[View Quote] > Sup Facter 8-) !?!
>
> Long time, no talk...lol. I will post the website URL for my new company and
> the Nexus Portal sometime this coming weekend. Within the next few weeks
> thereafter, I will be posting more and more information of the status of the
> project as well and concept drawings, decided layouts and themes as well as
> some 3d concept work. I'm really excited that this is all coming together
> because I think it will have huge benefits to the immediate VR community as
> well as the general internet population (eventually). Even the prospects of
> using neurotechnology in this project has arisen. Imagine interacting within
> a large virtual environment controlled simply by voice and thought. The
> medical and scientific communities could take alot of interest in it as well
> as the common end-user. Most of all, it will be a open-sourced project since
> so many other technologies will be involved to add even more growth to the
> system. So I will also definately have a forum board going cause every bit
> of input will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Cybernome
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
[View Quote] --
Goober King
I guess this means you won't have time to be Meta caretaker anymore? :-/
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 14, 2001, 7:02pm

Heh, you may not be new to AW, but you really should brush up on your
newsgroupology before you come in here. It certainly would save you some
heat.

And it's not that we don't believe you, it's just that we're all not
going to jump up and cheer you on simply because you tell us we should.
We've all adopted a policy of "We'll believe it when we see it", which,
given the string of hype, stalling, and abandonment associated with most
attempts at "beating AW", is not really a bad belief to have.

I don't want to rain on your parade or anything, just trying to provide
a voice of reason here. Personally, I can't wait to see what you've got
in store for us. Still, beware hyping it *too* much. Remember, the
higher you build it up, the farther you'll fall if you don't deliver...

P.S. Oh yea, and you don't need to be so defensive! *smirk*

[View Quote] > Yo people, (*smiles*)
>
> This is exactly why I posted this. I just dig controversy. For all of you
> who think it won't happen, and that it's another episode of Vaporware (as
> the term goes)...."Yeh your right! It won't work. I'll just get bored like
> so many others and not finish it. So I will just go back to my boring 9:00
> to 5:00 life and coulda woulda shoulda.
>
> Pleeeease!!! (Holds up palm of hand to face), there is way more to me
> than what is accustomed to on these threads. But hey that's fine, and your
> entitled to your "Opinion". Apparently, you don't know my level of
> determination. So all I will say for now is keep saying it. Keep doubting
> it. I want you too. Cause when I prove you wrong (and trust me, I will!!
> I've proved ample people wrong in AW for years now) then maybe...just
> maybe.. we will have something we can have faith in instead of waiting to
> jump on someone for saying something thats doesn't jive with the way of
> thinking and then not doing a damn thing about to make it better. (You got
> to give me props for at least trying to make a difference) instead of coming
> in here and just coulda woulda shoulda... 8-) .
>
> And yeah Me, Viper and Facter are friends...so what of it? I have
> hundreds more where they came from. Why ...don't you have friends that try
> to encourage and help you out. Come on people. Let get out of the Mid Evil
> crap, stop trying to burn folks at the stake and look to the future for
> once.
>
> -- Cybernome
> -----------------------------------------------------
> "Notice how life is like a sport? Yet most people don't have the skills to
> play so they just sit on the bench and wait for the end of the game."
> - Me
>
>
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--
Goober King
Go get em, tiger!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 15, 2001, 7:30pm

Because WVRN is operates out of Broadway world and is their official
radio station, while AWRadio operates out of NewYork world.

It just never ends around here...

[View Quote] > Why do I hear "New York vs. Broadway" in all of this??
>
> SW Chris
>
>
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Goober King
It's bad enough that one copied the other... now they have to outdo each
other?! *boggle*
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 15, 2001, 7:47pm

And all I did was write a letter! :P It makes one wonder why it took my
actions for Rick to "wake up", as it were, if he were watching these
newsgroups and other outlets all this time...

Oh well, a moot point, I suppose. Frankly, I'll take this as a good sign
and will be keeping my eyes peeled for future plans from Rick & Co.

Speaking of which... Hey Rick! I hope that little show you put on here
in the NGs last week wasn't a one time deal... :)

[View Quote] > I had an interesting conversation with enzo the other night. He came into
> my world and we chatted about new features for aw to make it more "game
> friendly". Eep was there as well. Enzo and eep both decided to visit my
> world for the first time at the same time... kinda funny. Eep was actualy
> quite polite.. and enzo was using a lot of slang and "casual talk" that put
> my poor bot right off.
>
> he also mentioned voting for features and asking the community more about
> the future of aw. Seems he's making steps in the right directions, and from
> what I hear it's mainly because of the work goober's done to bring it to his
> attention.
>
>
>

--
Goober King
My work here is done...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 22, 2001, 12:31am

The August 1st deadline was only for a small part of the website, not
the entire thing. I don't think they've set a date for the entire thing
to be released, although "November" sounds familiar...

[View Quote] > Whatever happened to that new website and all those new objects for
> public use? I thought it had a deadline of 8-1-01. Did I miss a new URL
> perhaps? Also, I have never heard back after applying for the new web
> ring. Is that dead too? Hope it's all going to be going good soon.
>
>
>
>


--
Goober King
He's been wrong before...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Aug 26, 2001, 2:18am

Default start place - My nice comfy chair behind my desk in my office at
the UTNHQ in AW, natch :)

[View Quote] > Just wondering what everyone's default start world was. Mine is AWGate
> because I have no where else to go. What about you?
>
>
>


--
Goober King
That was a plug, in case you missed it...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

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