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Jun 22, 2000, 10:20pm

Not to be nit-picky, but the website has a lot of incorrect links and
blank table cells. Doesn't really make it professional-looking so you
might want to fix that :)

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Goober King
Web Design Stickler
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jun 23, 2000, 1:01am

The problem is that in VRT, there is no daylight savings time. So while
right now it's 10PM EDT, it's 12AM VRT. But when it's 10PM EST in the
Fall, it's now 1AM VRT. That's where the 3 hour vs. 2 hour discrepancy
comes from. Hope that explains it. :)
--
Goober King
Hopes he doesn't have his EDT and his EST mixed up...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jun 24, 2000, 3:37pm

whoa... what're the odds of four different people posting at the exact
same time? *boggle*
--
Goober King
Only in AW, I guess...
http://lavender.fortunecity.com/heat/318/index.html

Jun 30, 2000, 11:28am

In this context, Warcraft hardly counts as a level editor. Any schmoe
can make a 2D level editor such as Warcraft. We're talking about *3D*
level editors. (for games like Half-Life, Quake, etc) Welcome to the
conversation. *smirk*

Seriously tho, comparing WarCraft to AW (or any of those 3D games) is
akin to comparing a calculator with a Supercomputer. Yes, it would be
nice if you could just point and click in order to build, but trying to
do that in a 3D setting isn't really all that practical.


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Goober King
Now maybe if we were talking about the Warcraft 3D editor...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 1, 2000, 11:22am

Are you using 3.0 Beta? If so, then it's due to the new chat scroll
feature. If you scroll up through the text, then AW won't automatically
return to the bottom line when someone says something. You have to
manually scroll back down to the last line in order for it to
automatically scroll again...

Hope this helps...

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Goober King
If yer not using Beta, then he's stumped!
http://lavender.fortunecity.com/heat/318/index.html

Jul 15, 2000, 4:49pm

Hail the return of the DM! :)

Glad to have you back, chief! But don't knocking Worlds, Inc. It's not
like COF did/is doing any better than they did. Guess they both don't
get the idea :P

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Goober King
Who's next? Protag?!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 4, 2000, 5:05pm

Um, he said nothing about April Fool's Day. Who says you have to wait
until AFD to fool people, especially when it's so easy? ;)

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Goober King
Because "Fool King" doesn't quite have the same ring to it...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 5, 2000, 5:12pm

Apparently, you neglected to read the second half of his post. Here's a
refresher:

> PS: Your nagging seems to contribute to overloaded threads and wasted
> band width because of the domino effect that it causes.. Therefore, you
> are guilty of useless blah in the news groups (such as this message) and
> hereby granted the "Redundant Award" of the year. ;) If you consider
> this a flame toward Eep, you are wrong, this was posted out of total
> boredom and I just wanted to waste bandwidth, HD space and your time..
> :) Oh, and replying to this would be pointless, because it's pretty
> much a repeat of a repeat of yet many more repeats of wasted replied to
> posts that do nothing more than post for the hell of it.

And since you replied to it, you basically proved his point for him. You
don't *have* to reply to every single inane post. Best to let stupid
threads die...

Now to switch gears a tad.

To whomever is moderating these here newsgroups: Learn how to thread!
Every time I look a a thread, I see this huge list of posts that all
look like they're replying to the same post, when in fact they're
replying to each other. It's annoying, and it's hard to tell who's
replying to who! Get with the program!
--
Goober King
Despises the idea of a moderator in the first place :P
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 6, 2000, 8:20pm

Ahh, but I never said I was against wasting bandwidth either, so I ain't
no hypocrite. (how's that spell-checker, btw? ;P) In fact, I'm willing
to waste enough bandwidth to choke a Mac if it'll get my point across.
:) I was just trying to see things from Bits' point of view and attempt
to help clarify his point.

Oh, and I can beat a dead horse as long as anyone, so we can take this
outside if you want. ;) I mean, heck, it's not like I have anything
better to do. Why else would I be posting in this newsgroup? ;D

Ok, that's enough for me; I'll wait for a discussion with a bit more
ammo in it. But I'll let ya have the last word if you really want to.
See ya next thread! ;)

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Goober King
Dusts off his Bandwidth-B-Gone and preps for the next discussion...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 9, 2000, 8:58pm

The problem is, there's nothing to "fix". It's not a "problem", per se.
The reason NACs are still showing up on yer contact list is because COF
hasn't gotten around to cleaning up the citizen database. So, even
though people might not be paying for their accounts anymore, they do
still exist. And until COF deigns to clean out their database one of
these days, we'll just have to keep guessing... :-/

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Goober King
Thinks he has about 30 NACs in his contact list...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 9, 2000, 6:40pm

Unit Processing... Please Wait...
Initiating Rant Mode...

It started with a simple request to add a few already-been-made objects
to the AW object server. After much cajoling, ranting, and pressure,
they were finally added. Now it seems that petitions are popping up all
over the place! Petitions for furniture objects, contact list options,
and now raising the cell data limit. While all these causes are well and
good, they aren't really all that realistic.

The thing that made Just In's petition so successful wasn't because he
got a ton of signatures. It was because the objects he want added were
already constructed; all COF had to do was move the files onto their
server. But these other petitions aren't practical for COF at all.

Furniture petition: Unless someone has already made the furniture
objects you want added, COF probably won't do it. They've been
historically slow when it comes to adding new objects, and they've
already said they wouldn't be adding any more objects for some time.

Contact List petition: What with 3.0 Beta still going on, and it's not
looking like they're planning on changing it anymore. We probably won't
even see anything like this until 3.1, if ever. Considering they only
have two developers at the moment, we can expect development to be slow
to begin with. And I think that making sure that AW for all systems is
more important to them that the ability to make yourself "Away"

Cell Data Limit petition: Not happening. COF has also been historically
stingy about the cell data limit, and with good reason. If you have a
public building world as huge as AW, you'd have to be insane to want a
Huge data limit. Even now, with AW set at normal, there are tons of
places that are laggy as all get out. If you were to up the limit to
Huge, you probably wouldn't even be able to move! And for those of you
who think that people should just get a better system, try walking
through R Town some time and see how you fare :P

Perhaps what's most disturbing about all these petitions, though, is
that it seems people think this is the only way to get COF's attention.
And as far as I can tell, it just might be. Trying to reach them via
email or telegram is nigh impossible and their appearances in AW are
rare. How are we supposed to get any sort of customer service, when you
can't reach anyone?

Take heed COF: When your customers start tossing petitions at you left
and right, that should be a hint that maybe they aren't quite satisfied
with you or your product. But then, you've never paid attention before,
so why should you start now?

I say, instead of starting petitions, we need to help them help us.
Since it's apparent that threats and boycotts do not effect change,
(sorry Eep) we should try the opposite approach. Start getting people to
sign up for more citizenships, or maybe even buy a world. Find people
that are willing to apply for jobs at COF. Get people interested in
helping out around the community in any way possible. That way, COF will
have more resources available to them and, hopefully, make good use of
them. Then once they get back on their feet, they can afford to look
after our interests.

Let's face facts: COF is struggling to stay above water. With all of its
problems and bad decisions in the past, they are no longer able to look
after the customer's needs. So instead of bitching at them and trying to
put them under for good, we should assist them in any way possible. Then
maybe, just maybe, they would be willing to return the favor...

Terminating Rant Mode...
Unit Standing By...
--
Goober King
And if this doesn't work, then it's hopeless!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 10, 2000, 11:22am

*nod* It's true that people change, and in Lucrezia's case, I'd almost
say irreversibly so. And some people who hook up with COF get
assimilated almost instantly. (Flagg, for example) But not all people
succumb to COF's trappings. Even though HamFon's started hanging with
that crowd, he's still easily accessible and can always be reached to
answer questions and such. (concerning bots, at least) And, my hope is
that he will be able to get a person in touch with whichever COFer you
need to talk to. (I have yet to test this)

And who knows... perhaps this new batch of employees (whenever they get
here :P) will be a completely different crowd from COF and won't fall
into the trap. Then again, it could just be wishful thinking.

Of course, one way to guarantee that won't happen is to find people who
you already know wouldn't fall for such a scam and get them interested
in signing up for a position. That way, we'll have our own people "on
the inside" and be able to get something done for a change. Know anyone
that fits the bill? :)

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Goober King
Would sign up for a job himself, but they aren't looking for a Wed
Dude...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 10, 2000, 11:22am

*nod* It's true that people change, and in Lucrezia's case, I'd almost
say irreversibly so. And some people who hook up with COF get
assimilated almost instantly. (Flagg, for example) But not all people
succumb to COF's trappings. Even though HamFon's started hanging with
that crowd, he's still easily accessible and can always be reached to
answer questions and such. (concerning bots, at least) And, my hope is
that he will be able to get a person in touch with whichever COFer you
need to talk to. (I have yet to test this)

And who knows... perhaps this new batch of employees (whenever they get
here :P) will be a completely different crowd from COF and won't fall
into the trap. Then again, it could just be wishful thinking.

Of course, one way to guarantee that won't happen is to find people who
you already know wouldn't fall for such a scam and get them interested
in signing up for a position. That way, we'll have our own people "on
the inside" and be able to get something done for a change. Know anyone
that fits the bill? :)

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Goober King
Would sign up for a job himself, but they aren't looking for a Wed
Dude...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 12, 2000, 11:19am

I would think it rather hard to send a resume via telegram. ;)

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Goober King
Email works....
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 12, 2000, 11:19am

Umm, I would think AWCI owns AWCI... good ol' Rick Noll and J.P.
McCormick...

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Goober King
Is that a trick question?
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 13, 2000, 3:24pm

Sorry, I had taken it to mean you actually wanted to *apply* for the
job. After all, that's what my point was in my previous post: that we
need people to apply for these jobs, not just ask questions. My
mistake...

Still, I bet if you send in a resume, you'll get a response a lot
quicker. :)

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Goober King
Eep working for COF? What was I thinking?!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 14, 2000, 7:42pm

Where I come from, when one wants to try for a job, they send in their
application first and then ask all the questions they want during the
interview. Maybe it's different in your neck of the woods...

And how do you know you don't stand a chance? If you've got the
qualifications, that should be enough. You said so yourself, Rick never
answered your queries, so you don't know until you try.

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Goober King
That makes two of us...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 17, 2000, 7:29pm

I'm not disagreeing with you. Heck, if it wasn't for the fact that COF
hasn't paid attention to it's customers since it acquired AW, I would be
having a petition every other week!

The problem is, no matter how noble the cause, no matter how many
signatures you gather, it ain't gonna make a lick of difference. You can
ship it to Massachusetts by Overnight Priority Mail, and they'll still
ignore it. They have consistently ignored all attempts at
communications, whether it's here in the newsgroups, or via email or
telegram. Therefore, petitioning is useless until they get their act
together.

Here's hoping their new batch of employees will do the trick...

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Goober King
PO'ed, KO'ed, and FU'ed...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 9, 2000, 8:56pm

Unit Processing... Please Wait...
Initiating Rant Mode...

It started with a simple request to add a few already-been-made objects
to the AW object server. After much cajoling, ranting, and pressure,
they were finally added. Now it seems that petitions are popping up all
over the place! Petitions for furniture objects, contact list options,
and now raising the cell data limit. While all these causes are well and
good, they aren't really all that realistic.

The thing that made Just In's petition so successful wasn't because he
got a ton of signatures. It was because the objects he want added were
already constructed; all COF had to do was move the files onto their
server. But these other petitions aren't practical for COF at all.

Furniture petition: Unless someone has already made the furniture
objects you want added, COF probably won't do it. They've been
historically slow when it comes to adding new objects, and they've
already said they wouldn't be adding any more objects for some time.

Contact List petition: What with 3.0 Beta still going on, and it's not
looking like they're planning on changing it anymore. We probably won't
even see anything like this until 3.1, if ever. Considering they only
have two developers at the moment, we can expect development to be slow
to begin with. And I think that making sure that AW for all systems is
more important to them that the ability to make yourself "Away"

Cell Data Limit petition: Not happening. COF has also been historically
stingy about the cell data limit, and with good reason. If you have a
public building world as huge as AW, you'd have to be insane to want a
Huge data limit. Even now, with AW set at normal, there are tons of
places that are laggy as all get out. If you were to up the limit to
Huge, you probably wouldn't even be able to move! And for those of you
who think that people should just get a better system, try walking
through R Town some time and see how you fare :P

Perhaps what's most disturbing about all these petitions, though, is
that it seems people think this is the only way to get COF's attention.
And as far as I can tell, it just might be. Trying to reach them via
email or telegram is nigh impossible and their appearances in AW are
rare. How are we supposed to get any sort of customer service, when you
can't reach anyone?

Take heed COF: When your customers start tossing petitions at you left
and right, that should be a hint that maybe they aren't quite satisfied
with you or your product. But then, you've never paid attention before,
so why should you start now?

I say, instead of starting petitions, we need to help them help us.
Since it's apparent that threats and boycotts do not effect change,
(sorry Eep) we should try the opposite approach. Start getting people to
sign up for more citizenships, or maybe even buy a world. Find people
that are willing to apply for jobs at COF. Get people interested in
helping out around the community in any way possible. That way, COF will
have more resources available to them and, hopefully, make good use of
them. Then once they get back on their feet, they can afford to look
after our interests.

Let's face facts: COF is struggling to stay above water. With all of its
problems and bad decisions in the past, they are no longer able to look
after the customer's needs. So instead of bitching at them and trying to
put them under for good, we should assist them in any way possible. Then
maybe, just maybe, they would be willing to return the favor...

Terminating Rant Mode...
Unit Standing By...
--
Goober King
And if this doesn't work, then it's hopeless!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 10, 2000, 5:36pm

lag - v. 1. To fail to keep up a pace; straggle.
2. To proceed or develop with comparative slowness: "The
electric current lags behind the voltage."

lag - n. the time between one event, process, or period and another

Basically lag is when you try to do something, and it takes you longer
than it is supposed to. For instance, you build something in AW, and
when you close the OP box it takes a second or two before the changes
you made to the object show up. That's lag. Or, when you're walking
around a crowded area in AW and, instead of the view scrolling smoothly,
it skips frames and looks like a very bad stop-frame animation. That's
lag.

Hope this helps :)

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Goober King
Lag's Partner in Crime...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 14, 2000, 7:42pm

Umm... he didn't say anything about writing an article bashing Gor. All
he wants to do is write an informative, completely objective article
about what Gor is. How is that censorship? *boggle*

And if these people truly wanted their worlds to be private, they
wouldn't make them publicly accessible, now would they?

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Goober King
Reading: It's a beautiful thing...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 14, 2000, 7:42pm

I'm afraid your complaint would be better served had it been sent to COF
directly (or at least the PKs); your pleas fall upon deaf ears in here.
Heck, with the exception of the moderator, I doubt COF even remembers
we're here. :-/

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Goober King
Here, the one-eared man is king.
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 17, 2000, 7:29pm

Actually, yes :P

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Goober King
Capping the CAP-happy...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 21, 2000, 3:42pm

Sorry, but you don't need to read the posts to know that they're huge.
If the moderator sees that there are a bunch of 20K posts going through
the system, he/she can safely assume that people are not snipping posts
properly. Either that, or they quickly skim every post and see tons of >
markers.

Either way, it's a shallow attempt to make it look like they're paying
attention. Why does this entity called "ActiveWorlds.com, Inc" have to
post these things? Why can't Cryonics, ENZO, or even Lucrezia post it?
Might actually make it a bit more believable!

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Goober King
Is tempted to quote this thing three times just to piss 'em off...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 22, 2000, 4:09am

According to my newsreader, (Netscape Newsgroup *points and laughs at
all the Outlook suckers*) it's an invalid signature. He's trying to sign
his post with a certificate that claims to come from
"Agent1 at my.activeworlds.com" when it really comes from
"anbugera at home.com".

The reason it gives you an security error is that this could be
interpreted as being forgery. But I'm guessing Agent won an
activeworlds.com email address at Bingo or sumfin and now it's screwing
up on him. Yet another victim, eh? :)

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Goober King
Certified Mental Case
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 22, 2000, 10:13pm

First of all, nobody upstairs ever pays attention to the Newsgroups, so
I seriously doubt I'm bothering them at all. Therein lies part of the
problem.

Second of all, you're damn right they've got work to do, a lot of it.
And I'm not talking about just 3.0 Beta. Considering that their stock is
currently a hair's breadth away from dropping off of NASDAQ, I'm
seriously starting to think AW is on it's way out. That's why we need to
do all we can to get it back on it's feet, since it's obvious the fools
in charge have no clue how to do it.

And thirdly, I know for a fact that you post in these NGs quite often,
so don't go throwing stones, my friend...

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Goober King
Has no life to base it around anything anyway, so there! :P
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jul 23, 2000, 2:56am

Umm... no it didn't... I can still read it...

*ahem*

"Hi everyone, just thought I'd throw a city ad here, hehe.

If you wanna do some exploring of a city or town, SW City will keep you
busy
for a long time. We got 256 buildings now, 37 residents, and we're 17
months old. Check it out, there's usualy at least 1 person there at
time at
least like me, SW Comit, Syntax, Captain MAD Mike, Krystal, Andy11, or
Mr
John.

AW 2217.4s 3609.8e 90"

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Goober King
Plug, plug, plugging away!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Sep 23, 2000, 1:49am

.... I've made "Stirring the Virtual Melting Pot" a monthly installment
over at AWnews.com. Figured I'd give everyone something to read while
waiting for some actual news to surface... ;)

Enjoy, I always do... *mischevious grin*
--
Goober King
If you complain about this post, you weren't supposed to read it!
*smack*
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Oct 19, 2000, 1:39pm

Interesting... a man who has dealt with COF in the past and knows how
they feel about their customers is trying to start a petition... can
anyone say "futility"?

Still, I agree that having a 3.0 viewer would kick ass, but I'm not so
sure about the single object refresh idea. It may be too complex to
code. (not that I know what goes into such coding) Would the world
server have to scan for that specific object and then refresh it? Might
be a bit of a resource hog... Perhaps a "Refresh World" or "Refresh
Scene" option would be better, where you just go up to a menu, pick
"Refresh World", and all the objects in your view will re-download. This
would be a user option as well, since there have been quite a few times
where I've been in someone else's world and had to re-download the world
cache just to see a different object...
--
Goober King
The pessimist that just doesn't go away...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Nov 14, 2000, 2:15am

Ok, this is going out to all you budding website developers out there,
since everyone seems to make the same mistakes (not just you, Anduin :))

1. Make sure the thing works in Netscape. If it works in Netscape, it'll
work in IE, promise. If you truly want to reach the widest number of
people possible, you'll make sure it works for the largest number of
browsers. And by "making it work", I mean make sure the page operates
exactly the same way in both browsers. If there's a frame in the middle
when you look at it in IE, make sure that frame appears in Netscape as
well. If the links change color in IE, make sure they change color in NS
too. etc.

2. It would be wise for you to learn actual HTML coding, as opposed to
simply creating the page in FrontPage or Dreamweaver or what-have-you.
Trust me, you'll be able to do a *lot* more with your website if you
know how the internal coding works, and you'll also be able to fix any
problems easily by just going into the code and changing a tag or two.

3. While your at it, be sure to learn about the differences between IE
and NS. (there are *plenty*) The basic rundown is IE lets you do more
things, but it's not as robust and secure as NS. (This may change come
NN6, tho) Sometimes making websites cross-browser compatible means
writing two entirely different chunks of code to do the same things.
Yea, it's a pain in the ass, but that's life in the web world. :-/ Just
keep yer fingers crossed and *maybe* MS and NS will actually agree on
something for once.

Hope this helps you guys out :)
--
Goober King
Real Men Use Notepad!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

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