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Jun 15, 2004, 1:08pm

SWE meant *old* friends. I have many, many old friends that I met in the
early days of AW that are now long gone. It would be helpful if there
would be someway to see if their accounts are expired and/or to get a
hold of their e-mail address so one could contact them again.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

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Jun 15, 2004, 1:09pm

There are European unis you know... :)

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

[View Quote] > lol, ya, but hey, it's becomes obvious when you goto AW in the
> morning/afternoon european time, and see how many people are actually there
> :) AW is becoming as empty as, emm, cheeese? so, they might aswell just
> finally admit what everybody already knows :)
>
> -SWE

Jun 15, 2004, 7:30pm

Not only that, but he has to a pay a buttload of money to keep his huge
world up year after year. ;)

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

Jun 17, 2004, 8:37pm

http://www.freefarts.com/farts.html

Jun 17, 2004, 10:27pm

What other JohnF would I be referring to? :)

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Jun 18, 2004, 5:28pm

Is it really that hard to figure out, John? LOL. I'm sure most of the NG
readers would agree that you make some rather funny, but off topic,
posts to the NGs... So I thought that link would be similar to something
you would post, hence the dedication. Get it now? I was just joking around.

[View Quote] > Lol O_o
>
> Why did you dedicate it to me though? Lol
>
> John

Jun 18, 2004, 7:14pm

It was just a spur of the moment type thing. No point in it really, not
to be taken too seriously. Just ignore it and get back to work on your
3D-Reality project. :P

[View Quote] > So do other people. Lol. I know you were joking around.. at least I
> thought you were... lol. Just seemed a bit.. odd!
>
> John

Jun 18, 2004, 5:31pm

Not all donations are scams, Linn. I've donated at least $15 USD to
XelaG for his work on the Xelagot/Av99bot. He didn't drop off the face
of the planet yet and close down his website because I sent him some
money and I doubt he is going to funnel my money to some mobster or
something. :)

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

[View Quote] > I have never seen so many ppl asking for donations in my life here
> that's a CON don't you know we ,well most of us, KNOW that!!!

Jun 18, 2004, 5:33pm

Andras is correct (I also sent him a donation in the past). If you
support a hard working person or organization in AW and would like to
donate, then by all means, go ahead. No one is forcing you to do so. In
most cases, it is completely optional.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

[View Quote] > It could be a con but I don't think so. Several of us working for the
> community free to make YOUR life simpler in AW.
> You are not obliged to donate - it is an option :)

Jun 18, 2004, 7:08pm

Had no idea you and your husband were out of work, Lady. :( I just sent
you a small donation via PayPal.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

Jun 18, 2004, 7:16pm

Eh, I'm sure you would of done the same, Wizard. I try to give back to
the community with some of the money I make from hosting when I can
afford it.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

[View Quote] > Now that's Community spirit. You should be proud of yourself Builderz.

Jun 19, 2004, 12:02am

LOL. Maybe I can send Linn a donation to keep her (I assume Linn is
female) quiet? ;)

[View Quote] > Oh and BTW Linn, thats for your article. I just got notification of
> PayPal of 3 new payments, explicitely stating your posting as reason.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Alex

Jun 20, 2004, 3:12am

Do you have proof that people that practice Gor online act exactly like
that in real life? How can you tell what stays online or not, and if it
spills over into real life?

Just because a *few* people that practiced Gor did some unsavory things
in the past doesn't mean that *everyone* that practices Gor should be
cast in a bad light.

Here are some options for you, Linn, since you seem to be racist against
Gors:

1) Don't enter any Gor worlds and ignore them if you come across them
while in AW.

2) Contact AWI and make your voice heard and maybe you could get them to
reconsider their policies about Gor-like content in AW.

3) Buy your own galaxy/uni and make it 100% Gor free.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

[View Quote] > yes and its that relationship that spills over into real life (btw slavery
> is not a part of our culture now) and causes hurtful things to happen to
> ppl and families even death it on the news at times why would anyone
> condone slavery and murder? AW can YOU answer that?

Jun 20, 2004, 3:18am

Couldn't AWI just take the "dirty words" from the bot at the Gate (the
ones that'll get you ejected) and run it through a filter so it applies
to usernames as well?

Or better yet, allow users to make or edit their own "naughty words and
names" file that they could use within the browser. People that are
easily offended could enable it and any of the words or phrases that
appear on the screen that are in the "naughty file" would be masked out
(****).

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

Jun 19, 2004, 5:19pm

MySQL support should make things interesting, XelaG. Thanks for adding
it! Now if the AW world server could do the same, I'd be really happy. ;)

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

Jun 22, 2004, 6:49pm

Last I heard, Microsoft has about $20 billion USD in *cash* lying
around. They are far from bankrupt, but Linux may make a big dent in
their profits in the future (if it isn't already).

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

[View Quote] > You should not belive it. if you have take the time to look at first page
> ( home )
> you would see this:
> http://microsoft.isbankrupt.com/
>
> And I must say, I dont belive that!!
>
> Tengel

Jun 26, 2004, 1:03am

LOL. Seems there are more and more streaming Internet audio/radio
stations popping up each and every day.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

Jun 27, 2004, 2:16pm

"If you can't take the heat, then get out of the kitchen." Contact AWI
if you are upset, start your own online petition to try and get AWI to
change their policies, buy your own universe and proclaim it "Gor free,"
don't visit worlds that are rated X, etc. Goreans have every right to
use AW just as much as you do, whether you like it or not.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

Jun 27, 2004, 4:20pm

1) I thought you said you were leaving the newsgroups?

2) Read past threads/posts (if they haven't been deleted) about what I
was referring to regarding AWI policies. It seems some of these
"anti-Gor people" want a specific clause in AWI policy that states what
Gors do in AW shouldn't be allowed here.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

Jun 28, 2004, 11:32pm

1) What happens when a child uses a credit card that doesn't belong to them?

2) What happens when the MySQL server the bot is using is compromised
and everyone's credit card number is stolen? I'm sure every single
person on the Net uses encryption, has all of their patches installed,
and is firewalled, right?

3) What happens when people that don't practice Gor start making Gor or
adult-themed worlds just so they can get people's credit card numbers?

Don't tell me it can't happen...

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

[View Quote] > With Xelag's new MYSQL
> addition to the xelagot you can put up one database for the Gor's with age
> verification via credit card in which all of the bots from each Gor world
> can access to see whether or not a user has been validated or not. You don't
> need to pay anything to get validated, make it free or a dollar or whatever.
> It'll help support your world and will keep a majority of the kids out.

Jun 29, 2004, 12:26am

I'm a member of Merchant911.org so I know a thing or two about credit cards.

1) By "pin #" You mean the three or four digit CVV2 code that's usually
right on the back of the credit card? Just flip it over and there it is.
Not all online stores or purchases ask for the CVV2 code, by the way.

Trust me, it isn't unheard of when "Little Johnny" finds mommie's purse,
picks out the shiny plastic card, and orders something online. Just
last week I got an e-mail from a parent saying that their daughter got a
hold of their card and ordered a product I sell online. I had to refund
the order.

2) It depends how the bot/MySQL database or whatever you are using to
authorize the card is setup. A credit card can be intercepted while in
transit, you know. It need not be stored to be stolen.

3) That's an option, yes. There are a few other courses of action you
could take, too.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

[View Quote] > 1) You need a pin #.
> - If you leave your CC laying around than you're a dumbass.
> - If you're child actually goes and steals your CC to get into the
> worlds than he has issues.
> - I can't tell you how many times needing a CC has deferred me from
> buying shit online.
>
> 2) CC # isn't stored.
>
> 3) You sue for fraud. You won't give the CC # to them, it will go through a
> secure remote site.

Jun 29, 2004, 12:31am

You may not waste your time trying to get into a Gor world, but the mind
of a person under the age of 18 or 21 (or whatever is considered a minor
in your country) and their mental state may be a lot different than
yours. Children and teens have a lot of time on their hands. If a child
o teen wants something badly enough, they'll usually try to get it
anyway they can.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

[View Quote] > Kinda what I meant. I wouldn't waste the time stealing a CC to get into a
> Gor world...

Jun 29, 2004, 12:44am

Oh, well in that case, I certainly agree with you. Most kids will find
it to be a deterrent. Those that really want to get in probably will
find a way, though.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

[View Quote] > If they want it badly enough than have their parents let them in.. I'm
> talking about something to keep the lazy kids or kids that go there by
> accident out.

Jun 30, 2004, 9:23pm

Thank you, E N Z O! Finally some reason around here. :) Hopefully
everyone can calm down now. You heard it straight from the "horse's
mouth" (E N Z O is the CEO of the company that runs AW, for those that
didn't know).

So, to sum up his post, if you have a problem with a world and it is
against AWI's policies, then send an e-mail to them at
abuse at activeworlds.com like E N Z O said.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

[View Quote] > The post that was deleted was deleted for language. We do not take the time
> to sort through all the posts and weed out the ones with the naughty words
> (notice my censorship below, I don't like the word you used), nor do we take
> the time to save the original post that was replied to so that the thread
> can continue.
>
> Activeworlds is a software that allows people to communicate across the
> internet and interact through the use of avatars in a simulated 3D
> environment. Just as the phone company is not responsible for what you say
> on or do with your phone AW does not control what you do with AW software,
> what you build or say here. In fact, AW is probably not even aware of some
> of the things that you take for granted as being part of a global community.
>
> AWI has added features (at the customers request) that allow users to set
> world ratings and access settings. Default settings for the client are G
> and PG. Worlds that exceed this rating are not shown unless YOU the client
> set them. I am unclear how you can complain about worlds that you have
> asked to see. If you go into an "R" or "X" movie would it be reasonable to
> complain about the things you see and hear? In the same way YOU set YOUR
> client and can password it to YOUR liking. World owners are required to set
> their world to a setting that reflects their content. This is for you as
> citizens and world owners to set. AWI does not monitor these uses as an
> ongoing practice, and I am sure YOU would not want us to. If a world is
> being used for illegal activity and we become aware of it we are required by
> federal law to cancel the operators license. If a complaint is made that a
> world has a lower setting than it should we make a request to the world
> owner to remedy the problem. "BSDM" and "Gor" worlds should be set at "X"
> by default. If you see ones that are not please feel free to contact us at
> abuse at activeworlds.com so that we can contact the operator.
>
> This thread will probably self destruct or internally combust within
> seconds.
>
> E

Jun 27, 2004, 2:58pm

Do any AW radio stations/streaming shows have plans to:

1) Broadcast at a higher bitrate than 24kbps?

2) Use the newer mp3PRO codec?

3) Offer Windows Media Audio streams or Ogg Vorbis streams in the future?

Thanks.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

Jun 28, 2004, 11:26pm

Now that everyone has debated the legal aspects of streaming Internet
audio, can anyone answer my original questions?

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

Jul 2, 2004, 3:12am

Thanks for replying, Pyro. I guess I'll just have to keep listening to
http://www.di.fm then if no AW station can go over the 24kbps bitrate.
:) The AW radio stations might want to add a PayPal donation button on
their sites, BTW.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

Jul 5, 2004, 5:44pm

Okay, now there is no excuse to not broadcast above 24kbps... :)

"Cheap Shoutcast Servers!"
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=292818

"How you can start an Internet Radio Station today!"
http://www.warriorforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13571

And I forget where I read this, but more and more people are switching
to broadband each and everyday so there will be less and less people on
dial-up in the future.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

Jul 6, 2004, 4:35am

I didn't say broadband adaption would happen overnight, did I? I also
never said everyone could afford it or even if it was available in their
area or not. Why did you assume I was referring to mainly Americans and
not other Internet users? I remember years ago when there used to be
massive amounts of users from Finland flooding worlds left and right in
AW. AW has a global user base.

However, a majority of streaming radio stations at least broadcast in
32kbps (people on 56k dial-up can still listen to them) *or* they
provide a dial-up stream *and* a broadband stream to suit everyone's
tastes. A majority also have some amount of funding or at least a PayPal
donation button to help cover costs.

I have to disagree with you when you say broadband is more expensive
elsewhere than in the U.S. In some countries, yes. In others, no. Let's
not forget that broadband, in my opinion, is anything faster than a 56k
modem. So it could be ISDN, DSL, cable, satellite, wireless, etc. Take
this quote from a news article about broadband in South Korea for example:

"The Chos' high-speed digital line--100 times faster than the typical
dial-up connection in the United States--is their zippy gateway to home
entertainment, education and shopping, all for $32 a month. And despite
the relatively recent arrival of such connections, the Chos, like many
Koreans, are already as addicted to their broadband hookup as most
Americans are to their television sets."
http://news.com.com/2100-1034_3-999695.html

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

[View Quote] > But not in the near or immediate future, though, considering their price
> proved unaffordable to larger group of folks who really need to manage money
> during the time of an economic recession. Besides, I think you're looking at
> the U.S. demographics instead of international demographics. The broadband
> is considerably more expensive elsewhere than in the U.S. largely due to
> strong American dollars (not sure why its strong or something like that).
> The non-American folks has and will remain a significant demographic group
> in Active Worlds and elsewhere on the internet, no matter how much
> significance you think it has. Anyway, that's my observation as an American
> in reading almost thousands of conversation in newsgroups. :)

Jul 6, 2004, 4:56am

"DSL Forum Releases Stats"
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?site=supercomm&doc_id=55029

Where did you get your 500,000 and 7% statistics from?

I didn't say it will happen very soon, SWE. Some people are just
experiencing the Internet for the first time while others are making the
most of it and switching to higher speeds.

Builderz
http://www.3DHost.net

[View Quote] > apparently, like 500,000 every week? so, that's like 7% of the internet a
> year, so still isn't that much :)
>
> -SWE

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