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New AW object set

Jan 10, 2002, 1:46pm
Correction....LOL.. make that 32005N 31556W....sorry about that.

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Ongoing boycott

Jan 9, 2002, 12:57pm
Well put goober king.

Holistic1

[View Quote] > I never said it was *solely* our responsibility to keep the company
> above water. I'm sure AWC has some sort of plan (after all, you can't
> expect them to put on marketing campaigns and hire ad execs if they
> don't have any money, now can you? :P), and I'll continue to support
> them until I'm the last man standing. I've invested over five years of
> time and effort in this community and I'm not going to see it die just
> because a few panic-happy people are killing off their part of the
> community.
>
> Look at it this way (using your French world example): Where did the
> first French people come from? Whoever got the French portion of the AW
> community going obviously wasn't put off by the fact that there were no
> other French people. So just because a bunch of French worlds shut down
> does not mean that other French people won't come and pay.
>
> What do you think will happen? "Oh no!" Rick exclaims, "Three more
> worlds have gone red! Whatever shall we do?!" Get real, Brant. AWC has
> already gotten all the money it's going to get out of those worlds
> (until next year, at least), so why should they care if they close down?
> The only people who would care are the people who frequently visit that
> world, and I doubt they'd be very happy if the world owner shut it down
> simply because of a futile protest. Who do you think all the kiddies
> would blame if you decided to shut down AWTeen in protest, hmm?
>
> Do you expect Valve to create and maintain all the Halflife and Team
> Fortress clans? Do you expect the Everquest guys to run all the auctions
> for their in-game items? Do you think all the video game companies
> should be running IGN? The only responsibility AWC has is to the
> product, and to make sure it's the best damn product they can make. It's
> not their fault a community decided to spring up around their product.
> Don't get me wrong, they should still listen to us, since we use their
> product, but it's not as if I think they should be expected to run
> ComReg, AWHS, and everything else in the AW community. Simply put, AWC
> gets people to come here, the community *keeps* people coming here.
> That's how it's always been, and that's how it will always be.
>
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Ongoing boycott

Jan 9, 2002, 1:58pm
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[View Quote] > Nothing but a 15 year old. :)
>
> PS. hope u like my spelling Goob. Puncuated and spelt everything properly
> just for you. :) know stop complaining bout my spelling!!!
>

We are proud of you...{pats swe on the head} :)

Holistic1



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why?

Jan 9, 2002, 10:10am
My god... someone who is rational....I tire of watching everyone howl before
they are bit...

Holistic1


[View Quote] > ok,i still dont understand why everyone is complaining bout the pricing even
> though we still pay $20 to renew out existing citizenships. And it will stay
> at that price till sometime next month when they decide on the renewal
> price. which for all we know,wont be that much more. so maybe u guys should
> wait until we accully have to pay a large sum.but for now just lay low for
> abit, maybe arrange a protestion group or something reeady for the events
> that will occer sometime-febuary. or maybe even wait until 3.3 comes
> out,then decide if its worth $120 for.
>
> SWE

why?

Jan 9, 2002, 12:55pm
Hahaha... Not really foxmccloud, it's just that so far nothing has been cast in stone. If you would take a look at my entry in the
online petition, you would see that I do think that the PROPOSED increase is far to much. I suggested that the rate ( if indeed one is
needed) be increased to about 25.00 a year. That, in itself, is a 25% increase. I also suggested that the tourist mode be continued.
Although I can see putting a "try before you buy" time limit on it.

Holistic1

[View Quote] > Congratulations to both of you for having so much success in life. I'm sure in a few years I'll earn enough money for that too. For
> now I'm a student and I clearly DON'T have 10 more $ per month to spend.
> I agree that complaining is useless, but saying that a 600% price increase is "not that much more" is absolutely incorrect.
>
> Fox Mc Cloud
>
> "holistic1" <tkafader at pattan.k12.pa.us> a écrit dans le message news: 3C3C31C2.5DF81D7 at pattan.k12.pa.us...

Books? :)

Jan 11, 2002, 10:14am
Actually it isn't any more difficult to publish at 15 then at 42 or any other age. The only real difference is under the age of
legal entitlement, IE: 18 or 21 or whatever, you would need a guardians co-signature on any legal documents.

Holistic1

[View Quote] > You shouldn't get angry that easily, my guess is his point was that it's not that easy to publish a book for a 15 year-old... :)
>
> Fox Mc Cloud
>
> "imagine" <imagines1 at mindspring.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c3e2698 at server1.Activeworlds.com...

Spy bot

Feb 22, 2002, 2:24pm
Well children, the bot entered Holistic and left, BFD!!. Thats about as bad as cutting across
ones lawn, so what?. Grow up. No harm, no foul. I am sure you all can think of something more
worthwhile to bitch about than this. And don't talk to me about your precious "rights" being
crossed. Bullshit. You know damn well that you are only licensed to USE the world and browser
software, so don't get into such a huff when the owners decide to stop in and check PUBLICLY
available information.

Holistic1

[View Quote] > Someone without world bot rights is using a bot in several
> worlds. I checked the logs of several unrelated worlds that
> have no bot rights entry in common, and all showed
>
> Wed 02/20/02 18:21:44 68.15.23.167:1725 -1 CONNECTED
> Wed 02/20/02 18:21:44 worldname 68.15.23.167:1725 -1 ENTER 30929 50
> Wed 02/20/02 18:21:44 worldname 68.15.23.167:1725 -1 IDENTIFIED '[Search Spider]' 0 1
> Wed 02/20/02 18:21:44 worldname 68.15.23.167:1725 1 EVENT MASK 0x0
> Wed 02/20/02 18:21:44 worldname 68.15.23.167:1725 1 DISCONNECTED
>
> It seems to have gone through the world list in alphabetical
> order and stayed in each world only for seconds.
>
> No "Not welcome" message, traceroute reveals nothing.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --
> "_
> |
> /\
> \ /
> __/ /_

Spy bot

Feb 22, 2002, 4:08pm
What you are failing to get into your head is that, using your analogy, the so
called "private property" is just leased not owned. Gads, as the property owner,
aw doesn't need your persmission to come in. It is only a courtesy that
property owners notify before entering NOT a legal requirement. Ask any apt.
complex owner. they always reserve the right to enter. and remember that even
though the software sits on your computer, AW still owns it.

Holistic

[View Quote] > What if the land is posted private property? It's still breaking the law.
> Not only that but it recorded information about it without the expressed
> permission of the owners. Well all be, that's also illegal. If it's
> public, it's open to users, not bots.
>
> As Filmkr pointed out, a good point for once, it's on his computer and not
> at AW's local office. I think this is also illegal.
>
> -Silenced
>
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Spy bot

Feb 22, 2002, 4:10pm
[View Quote] > and the virtual land residing in it.

Holistic

>
>

Spy bot

Feb 22, 2002, 4:28pm
silenced, I am not even going to bother with this. read the agreements that
you clicked on when you installed the software. and aw didn't search the
worlds.... gads people get a grip.

have a wonderful weekend....shutting down now...byebye

[View Quote] > Uh no, private property is owned by the owner. That's the only way you can
> post it legally. If we're paying for a world license and the virtual land
> without paying on an installment plan, we also own that too. We're not
> leasing it, at least not under their license agreement. We're talking about
> property, not an apartment btw, they're two completely different things. AW
> still owns the software yes, but they don't own your information. Why do
> some people feel the need to protect a company's illegal actions? AW may
> own the universe, they don't own the worlds though. Just like the gov't,
> they can't come onto your property or search it without a warrent. (I'm
> speaking for the United States since AW is a US based business.. until AW is
> on your local stock markets, it's going to be a US based business)
>
> -Silenced
>
> the so
> owner,
> apt.
> that even

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