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Jan 15, 2002, 9:08pm

Hey all,

This propensity to ban citizens with whom AW disagrees from these Newsgroups
seems desperate and sad to me. Honestly, much of this discussion feels as
artificial and contrived as any pro wrestling match.

If the AWC-folk have decided that they must gut AW, then they should just go
ahead and do it; nothing any of us can say will stop them anyway. I only
ask that they don't insult our intelligence by trying to make us believe
that most of us are pleased with this development.

jcolbert

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Jan 16, 2002, 2:19pm

Hi all (again)

Thank you all for these responses, pro and con.

Moria said:

"People have been banned from the newsgroups (and from AW itself) for
swearing, lying, slander, deliberate incorrect rumour spreading and
attacking other users directly using language composed of primarily
four letter words rather than by rational argument."

My response:

"Lying" and "deliberate incorrect rumor spreading" are exactly the forms of
speech that require protection.

The obvious question here is; "lying" and "deliberate incorrect rumor
spreading" defined by whom? Is there a procedure in place for these banned
posters to appeal these decisions? Are these bans permanent? Is there a list
available with the names of people who have been banned, and why?

I suspect the person who might best reflect my feelings about the recent changes
to AW would be eep, but eep has been banned from these ng's. Why?

Here's a rumor (that I hope won't get me banned): Has AWC management met with
any particular group of citizens to discuss these recent changes?

Respectfully,

jcolbert

Jan 16, 2002, 3:42pm

Back again,

jcolbert said:

"Has AWC management met with any particular group of citizens to discuss these recent
changes?"

Moria responded:

"I know of one small group and many individuals, there may be others...."

My response:

What group? If you were a participant in this meeting, would you be kind enough to
share the chatlog with the other members of this list?

Does anyone else here know of other meetings with AWC management to discuss these
changes? If so, please share this information with the rest of us.

Thanks,

jcolbert

Jan 16, 2002, 4:23pm

Moria,

I feel sure that all of your posts here have been made in good faith.

jcolbert

Jan 16, 2002, 4:36pm

Back,

Whoops! Sorry!
Sent last msg early.

To continue:

Are you talking about an implied right to privacy? (An informal meeting
of individuals, for instance)

Or were you asked during this meeting to keep this information
confidential?

jcolbert

Jan 16, 2002, 4:58pm

Thank you for this information, Moria,

I guess it's good to know that AWC is, at least, talking to SOMEBODY out
there.

I only wish they'd talk to us...

Until then, it'll be interesting to see what this thread produces.


jcolbert

Jan 18, 2002, 9:26pm

List Manager:

Thanks for restoring my mail privileges to this list.

jcolbert

Jul 16, 2002, 3:49pm

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