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Jun 27, 2002, 10:13pm
Just In, you really do NOT want to go there with me. IT is very apparent to
me that birds of a feather do seem to flock together .. and no matter HOW
you want to JUSTIFY what you do to others..and make is sound so peachy..
that is just NOT the case. I am in no war with you or One Summer. I just
choose to state fact and keep you out of my world and not accept your nasty
beligerant teles anymore, thank God for this new option :) It is my right
as a world owner to post FACTS in my world, when you want to stroke the
check for it.. then you can post what you wish. You have been banned for a
very very long time for your personal lifestyle.. which we shall not go into
here.. and the fact that my world has a pg rating. YOU and PG do not
click.. and Summer because she is your number one supporter. AFTER and
beyond all this it was discovered by someone, that an av that is made
exclusively for my worlds by Lady Murasaki, was being used in BluPearl as an
avatar AND an object.. and was then as well shown to me that stolen avatars
have been an issue in this world. when Lady Murasaki and I approached
Summer about this.. we got numerous stories... lies. about it.. Lady
Murasaki and I were told at least 3 different stories including that these
items were created by a friend for her and that it was not the same item.
it was NOT removed until it was demanded to you to be done.. and then you
STILL would not remove it, you said, until you could compair meshes.. which
you said you did, found it to be one and the same and removed.. I still
wonder how YOU could compair the meshes of the one she had and one of Lady
Murasakis. I do not see your point of starting a new line of this.. so I
don't accept your teles.. so what? so I posted in my world you had stolen
items in that world that belonged to me? so what? its fact? Just In, go try
to be productive and quit trying to make issues that need not be made. YOU
got the sign posted in my world because you continued to harass me
neverending..about issues in America that I cannot control.. you brow beat
me over them constantly.. and anyone that you could. I did not go looking
for an issue with you, you created one..I will NOT talk to you and be
harrassed by you.. I prefer to spend my time in AW with positive measures.
so go be productive or something Just In. I did NOT state a single FALSE
STATEMENT.. what I have posted is absolute truth as we both know.. and as
other parties know... so sue me.
[View Quote]"just in" <Justin at nomail.com> wrote in message
news:3d1adc91 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Seeing Insanity falsely and unjustly discredited only highlights how some
> love to continue witchhunts based on their perceived understanding of
> things. Understandings that invariably turn out to be incorrect.
>
> This leads me to the never ending trash that I and OneSummer have to
endure
> at the hands of a few who happen to wield some influence, albeit
> dwindling...
>
> There are signs posted at the GZ of worlds America and Y2000 headed with
> "Warning to World Owners" which continues on to say that myself and
> OneSummer are banned, apparently using the excuse of us stealing avatars
> from their worlds.
>
> Truth is neither of us have stolen anything. Truth leads to OneSummer's
> good faith and trust in one person who had access to her object path in
> BluPearl world who loaded a total of two avatars onto her path, declaring
> them to be a gifts to her. As soon as it was confirmed that each were in
> fact stolen they were removed - and we would have thought it would be the
> end of the matter.
>
> Now here is the real truth. America world currently has over 300 objects
> and textures that I created on its paths. Evidence of this is proven by
> going to http://www.myactiveworlds.com/~america/ls.php? and listing either
> the Models or Textures path and counting up the objects and textures
> beginning with "ju_". I have never given permission for my creations to
be
> on America's paths and hence we discover who the real theives are. I'm
> still mulling over whether I should register the copyrights on my
creations
> and enforce my legal rights.
>
> The whole thing is a perpetuation of the Just In - Broadway vs FriendPa -
> NewYork "fued", which I wish could just be buried and forgotten.
> Unfortunately those signs do nothing to allow me and the others concerned
to
> forget it. And my creations on America's path only adds insult to injury.
>
> If Posh or Jetta lewis wish to ban me from their worlds, so be it - I
> couldn't care less. But their false accusations and discredit of mine and
> OneSummer's name is intolerable. I am unable to resolve this because AW
has
> refused to help, and both Jetta and Posh have filtered out my telegrams.
If
> you can telegram or speak to Jetta or Posh about removing the signs I
would
> appreciate it.
>
> Regards, Justin
>
>
>
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Jun 28, 2002, 12:44am
<<<<<<<<<<Posh it is you that grammed me, and me that replied to your
allegations. It
was you that would not listen to my explanations. And it was you that went
stirring the pot. Meanwhile the issues that I have remain unresolved.
Resolve the issues and I have no reason to complain.>>>>>>>>>>
Well Just In..... as far as I am concerned this issue is resolved and I
won't be commenting on it in here further... or there.. or anywhere to
you... or with you :) All of us involved know how this went.. and how you
can make a pile of poo smell like a friggin rose :) end of subject for me..
I am not going to be involved in this bickering, better things to do :)
[View Quote]"just in" <Justin at nomail.com> wrote in message
news:3d1bcac0 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Johnny B
>
> Which part of my explanation of the events did you not understand?
>
> For your information in both cases the issue was dealt with directly
between
> OneSummer and the creator of the avatars in question, Lady Murasaki and My
> Two Keys. All details of how it came about that the two avatars were on
> BluPearl's path, including who put them there, were given to the creators
> for them to take any further action as they deemed fit. I helped
OneSummer
> find out who created the avatars and helped her to remove the avatars and
> textures from BluPearl's path. OneSummer's initial reaction to being told
> she had stolen the avatars was shock and disgust and upset. Perhaps
> OneSummer handled the situation badly to begin with, nevertheless it was
> resolved.
>
> There was dishonesty, but not by either myself or OneSummer. OneSummer
had
> no experience in managing world paths and innocently put her trust in
others
> to help her with that. She was greatly saddened by the whole affair.
>
> The owner of Y2000 knows all this, yet she still wants to point the finger
> at myself and OneSummer. If she wants to dislike us and ban us from
> entering Y2000, that is her choice. The sign she has at Y2000 GZ is the
> issue and what needs to be resolved. The same goes with the sign at
America
> GZ.
>
> Posh it is you that grammed me, and me that replied to your allegations.
It
> was you that would not listen to my explanations. And it was you that
went
> stirring the pot. Meanwhile the issues that I have remain unresolved.
> Resolve the issues and I have no reason to complain.
>
> Regarding the timing of my complaint? I have tried to let it go many many
> times. Its when people come to me telling me about the "sign they read"
> that frustrates me. OneSummer gets far more approaches of this, and each
> time she is forced to explain and defend her actions and is reminded again
> of the whole sad affair.
>
> Regards, Justin
>
>
> "posh" <posh.isposh at verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:3d1baa2d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
apparent
> to
HOW
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> nasty
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for
> a
> into
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> an
> avatars
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> which
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> try
> YOU
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in
> declaring
> in
> the
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> either
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> FriendPa -
> concerned
> injury.
> and
AW
telegrams.
>
>
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Oct 5, 2002, 1:10am
snip
< I can say youve truly made yourself look bad
here bruce. This was about my opinion on heartfall and the only retaliation
you offer is my living status? I laugh at you.>
Ok ..so you did the same thing too now bluemax.. you two are even, so why
not take it outa here ( this is not the place to put personal info) and on
the phone or face to face and deal with it? I think it is a complete shame
that Insanity would come between two friends as this shows has happened..
"shakes head"
[View Quote]"king bluemax" <bluemax36 at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3d9e47aa$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
> Wow, I didnt get into your personal life but you sure buttoned up mine
> pretty well. And someone told me id get in trouble for slandering you? All
i
> can say in response to this post of yours is: 1. Youre just mad. 2. Youve
> made yourself look stupid. And i really think that going into my life is
> wasnt the issue.You as I last knew it live with your mom and your twice my
> age. I own my own company and work out of my backyard, not getting rich
> just getting by. How do you know wheter or not I pay rent or anything else
> about my finances? You really dont. Why do I live in my parents house?
None
> of your business. If that is all you can say then I laugh at you. Not Me.
> Your life is a lot more pitiful than mine. Its not my fault you have an
> hourly job pushing boxes around and cant afford to live in an appartment
due
> to wage garnishments to pay back child support. Or that you strangly
occupy
> your moms basment dripping in sweat and chainsmoking ciggarettes to spend
> all your free time and extra money to play peter pan in active worlds
> catering to the imaturity of such obsessions. Youre a weirdo. Not me. Yup,
I
> live in my moms house with my wife and son and im glad I do. My son goes
to
> a good school and he gets to see his grandparents every day. Im not
ashamed
> of who i am or where i live. I can say youve truly made yourself look bad
> here bruce. This was about my opinion on heartfall and the only
retaliation
> you offer is my living status? I laugh at you.
> Shane
> (King Bluemax)
>
>
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Feb 10, 2003, 3:01am
Good lord what are you? her halo holder? She cannot speak? "rolls eyes"
[View Quote]"just in" <anon at no.spam..com> wrote in message
news:3e461881 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Again... OneSummer never announces any events at The Gate, including
> events run on worlds she owns. She does not do that specifically to avoid
> any criticism about conflict of interest. There are signs put up for
events
> at The Gate and Alpha World GZ. Events are also promoted via AWEC,
> newsgroups, and word of mouth telegrams.
>
> Even so, in my experience, I have politely whispered to a GateKeeper on
duty
> to make an announcement for me - and they have obliged.
>
> The point is - there are good and bad ways to go about promoting your
world
> and there are successful and unsuccessful ways to do it as well. If you
> want to use the good and successful ways, ask the people that hold good
> events and run popular worlds.
>
> Regards, Justin
>
>
> "a1ctbuilder" <A1CTWorld at aol.com> wrote in message
> news:3e460c48 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> events,
> the
> two
the
> not
> spammers
> people
> pretty
do
> it
the
orientated
going
people
> she
> how
> for
chance
> to
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does
wants
> the
posted,
> I
allowing
>
>
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Dec 12, 2000, 3:06pm
DIRECT THREATS to an owner is not negotiating, it is THREAT and going out
and DESTROYING an object path, which you DID do is not protecting your
works, it is vandalizm! You admitted that to my face and tried to get me to
go spy and see the damage you had done! You don't go to court because you
don't have a leg to stand on. You criticised and threatened when another
didn't want to put more money into a larger world, yet you are now a
partner? Gee financially? Noooo.. Just In you have not paid a dime toward
Broadway, just got people to buy it for you without EVER telling them up
front what mess and chaos you just left behind, and now at least one of
those "partners" is pretty upset and called for you to close world. The
webpage criticises you where it should and it is based on total fact which
you know I can back up completely. It is a shame you can do this to others
in here without regard to them, you may be a talented creator..that is very
true but you are a terrible personality. And you should have treated PA with
more respect. She took you in and allowed you to build there when NOBODY
else could work with you. Then the final slap of going to PKS and
threatening her with harrassment if she would NOT give you TOTAL SUPPORT in
Broadway. Do you really think along these lines as the way to treat people
Just In?
[View Quote]"just in" <Justefyde at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3a35e0b1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> The web page criticising me has too many errors, and I prefer to ignore
such
> attacks.
>
> I didn't vandelise anything, I sought to protect my own works.
>
> There was never any agreement that I was "giving" my work to anyone. When
I
> give something away, or sell it, I put that in writing (as I did with the
> Alpha World objects I made).
>
> The NewYork world owner and I had a fight over a petty issue that got
> inflamed into something horrible. I apologised for that, and tried for
> months to fix it - obviously my negotiating skills leave a lot to be
> desired. I have many failings and for that I am sorry.
>
> When I saw all was lost in the friendship with the NewYork world owner I
> went and got a new world with some of my friends so that I could finish
the
> project I set out to achieve, using my own objects, my own textures, my
own
> pictures, and my own building. VR Times Square was and is built solely
and
> wholey by myself with the sweat of my own brow and by no other person.
Any
> duplication of that work can only be done with my approval and
endorsement,
> and by giving me due credit for the work. If someone goes against this,
> well, too bad *sniff*, going to court to defend my "rights" is just
too
> much drama and too expensive. I would only consider doing that if I stood
> to lose money, and that is not the case. Furthermore, once I've made a
> friend I always do my best to keep that friendship and never do anything
to
> upset that. Sometimes, that just isn't possible.
>
> I'm not in the least surprised that the NewYork world owner is angry at
what
> has eventuated. I asked her many times to come resolve things with me to
> avoid it. And even when it reached the point where I decided to forge
ahead
> in a world I shared ownership of - I offered her the opportunity to join
the
> team at no cost or loss to her, and with everything to gain. I'm very
sorry
> we couldn't work together.
>
> I invite you all to come join us in Broadway... a great world that
> combines the talents of some very special and talented people. The world
is
> now open to public building and I would be honoured if you came to build,
> or just to hang out with friends and catch some sites.
>
> As time goes on we will be adding even more special features, not to
mention
> landmarks that many are all familiar with. And this year's new years
event
> will be boosted with even more dazzling effects than last year, along with
> many hosts to ensure everyone has a great time!
>
> Best wishes to all, Justin
>
>
>
>
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nornny in response to both you and Just In.. bs.. total bs.. I watched =
this entire ordeal unfold from start to finish.. I have in MY hands his =
emails and chat texts.. with her.. with me.. with PKs.. maybe those =
being posted JustIn would clear any distortions???? so before you go on =
about distorted facts.. maybe you should learn a tad more of the subject =
nornny and Just In.. don't push it
[View Quote] "nornny" <Nornny at snet.net> wrote in message =
news:3a3688b3 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
He's right. Zero is NOT a direct source of information, nor an =
unbiased one for that matter. If there's anyone who should be talking =
about this, it should be Just In and FriendPA (is that her name? I don't =
really know who is the other person involved, frankly). Yes, the AW =
community is kind at heart and will defend their net friends til they =
die, but really, YOU guys get yourself up the matters of others when =
there is NO need or business of your own. And then you complain about =
the endless bashing that occurs. :) Hippocrates, all of you, if you're =
gonna go at someone, innocent or not, at least admit you're one sided =
but opinionated! :))
=20
Nornny
PS, if anyone says here that THIS post (not my other ones in this =
thread) are hippocritical, I'd like you all to know that I'm an addicted =
basher. :P I carry a rock in my pocket just for the occasion. Btw, this =
is in response to Just In's comment, but this post is not one in favor =
of his comments, even though I might or might not be. :) Just wanted to =
get it straight before I get tarred and feathered myself. :)
"just in" <Justefyde at hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:3a367c78 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
No I never asked for, nor recieved payment for any of the creations =
I did in NewYork. I was not "employed" nor "rewarded" nor given =
anything in exchange for creating my work in NewYork. If anything the =
world owner was a constant source of frustration and hindered me in the =
process of creating what I wanted done. That I showed the patience that =
I did show is a testament to my endurance, and to be treated how I am =
being treated now defies my understanding.
=20
Why is it that you people all want to believe the misinformation fed =
to you by people who are at best 3rd parties, and at worst, constant =
complainers? Why is it that you want to take the side of someone who =
relishes going around in an avatar that carries a gun and happily =
promotes WAR as her favorite world?
=20
May I suggest, get on the side of those that promote creativity, and =
praise good works when praise is due, and disregard the propoganda =
machine touted by those that promote destruction and negativity.
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[View Quote] "holistic1" <tkafader at pattan.k12.pa.us> wrote in message =
news:3A366834.41142D0B at pattan.k12.pa.us...
Let me see if I have this straight, You helped build New York. =
you requested certain programs, privileges, citizenships etc from the =
world owner in order to perform the tasks of creating objects, building =
etc. Now you claim that because you created those objects, they belong =
to you... well sir, you are in sad need of a Plexdectomy. In issence =
you were employed by the world owner to assist in creating a specific =
environment. Thus you were, in fact, employed by said world owner and =
as such, all creations belong to the world owner. What you are trying =
to have us believe would be the same thing as Roland owning all of the =
programs that he has written while an employee of AW. Son, if I were =
you, I would close up shop, apologize to those people whom you crossed =
and grow up. You are a talentd builder, but don't be an ass. You're =
wrong. You were paid with the things (programs, citizenships etc) that =
you requested and received in lieu of payment. (Which was NOT offered to =
begin with).=20
Just my .002=20
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Plexdectomy =3D an operation where a piece of plexiglass is =
inserted into the lower intestine, so when you have your head up your =
ass, you can see where you are going.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nornny in response to both you and Just =
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total bs.. I watched this entire ordeal unfold from start to finish.. I =
have in=20
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maybe those=20
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go on=20
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nornny=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>He's right. Zero is NOT a direct source of =
information, nor=20
an unbiased one for that matter. If there's anyone who should be =
talking about=20
this, it should be Just In and FriendPA (is that her name? I don't =
really know=20
who is the other person involved, frankly). Yes, the AW community is =
kind at=20
heart and will defend their net friends til they die, but really, YOU =
guys get=20
yourself up the matters of others when there is NO need or business of =
your=20
own. And then you complain about the endless bashing that occurs. :)=20
Hippocrates, all of you, if you're gonna go at someone, innocent or =
not, at=20
least admit you're one sided but opinionated! :))</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Nornny</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PS, if anyone says here that THIS post (not my =
other ones in=20
this thread) are hippocritical, I'd like you all to know that I'm an =
addicted=20
basher. :P I carry a rock in my pocket just for the occasion. Btw, =
this is in=20
response to Just In's comment, but this post is not one in favor of =
his=20
comments, even though I might or might not be. :) Just wanted to get =
it=20
straight before I get tarred and feathered myself. :)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"just in" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Justefyde at hotmail.com">Justefyde at hotmail.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a367c78 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a367c78 at server1.Act=
iveworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>No I never asked for, nor recieved payment for =
any of the=20
creations I did in NewYork. I was not "employed" nor =
"rewarded" nor=20
given anything in exchange for creating my work in NewYork. If =
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anything the world owner was a constant source of frustration and =
hindered=20
me in the process of creating what I wanted done. That I =
showed the=20
patience that I did show is a testament to my endurance, and to be =
treated=20
how I am being treated now defies my understanding.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Why is it that you people all want to believe =
the=20
misinformation fed to you by people who are at best 3rd parties, and =
at=20
worst, constant complainers? Why is it that you want to take =
the side=20
of someone who relishes going around in an avatar that carries a gun =
and=20
happily promotes WAR as her favorite world?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>May I suggest, get on the side of those that =
promote=20
creativity, and praise good works when praise is due, and disregard =
the=20
propoganda machine touted by those that promote destruction and=20
negativity.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"holistic1" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:tkafader at pattan.k12.pa.us">tkafader at pattan.k12.pa.us</A>&g=
t;=20
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attan.k12.pa.us</A>...</DIV>
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me see if I have this straight, You helped build New =
York. you=20
requested certain programs, privileges, citizenships etc from the =
world=20
owner in order to perform the tasks of creating objects, =
building=20
etc. Now you claim that because you created those objects, =
they=20
belong to you... well sir, you are in sad need of a =
Plexdectomy. In=20
issence you were employed by the world owner to assist in creating =
a=20
specific environment. Thus you were, in fact, employed by =
said world=20
owner and as such, all creations belong to the world owner. =
What you=20
are trying to have us believe would be the same thing as Roland =
owning all=20
of the programs that he has written while an employee of AW. =
Son, if=20
I were you, I would close up shop, apologize to those people whom =
you=20
crossed and grow up. You are a talentd builder, but don't be =
an=20
ass. You're wrong. You were paid with the things =
(programs,=20
citizenships etc) that you requested and received in lieu of =
payment.=20
(Which was NOT offered to begin with).=20
<P>Just my .002=20
<P>Holistic1 <BR> =20
<P>Plexdectomy =3D an operation where a piece of plexiglass is =
inserted into=20
the lower intestine, so when you have your head up your ass, you =
can see=20
where you are going. <BR> =20
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Dec 12, 2000, 10:16pm
I sent my reply to you and to Just In. The distortion comment was directed
at him. I have to disagree with your opinion Nornny, not saying that I
don't respect it :) everyone is entitled as am I. I feel strong about this
because of the type of standard this behavior could establish if it is
allowed to go on without being recognized. and not to worry Nornny, she has
a friend and supporter not a radical for she can fight her own battle as you
will hear I am sure :) And my opinions were never biased against Just In
until I saw with my own eyes how devious he can be.. so I assure you it is
true.. not misleading Like I said before I do know about this subject
extensively.. and I feel I am not fighting "for" just PA, but rather for
owners who do not want this type of behavior to happen in our worlds, and
feel it should not be permitted. To each his own Nornny :)
[View Quote]"nornny" <Nornny at snet.net> wrote in message
news:3a36bae8 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
I agree with you Posh. I don't know half as much as you do on the subject.
:) If it is YOUR business, please barge in and my deepest apologies for
excluding you. But as your responses go into the newsgroup, you have come
off to me as just another witness to the ordeal with nothing to lose. Yes,
you have credible evidence and such, but your biased opinions only just
persuade others to believe in something not neccesarily true (not that
you're a lier, you're just credible). Let the two true sources have it out
on their own. They know and experienced everything that led them up to this
point, and have risked more than you and I will have. Although it makes for
quite good entertainment, I have a bad feeling we'll have an Eepian flame
war soon, and like we really need another one.
I never mentioned anything about distorted facts, and only hinted at biased
ones. But I'll admit I'm just as biased as the next citizen. In the end, my
opinions are not going anywhere, and yours won't either because FriendPA
will say they ARE credible, and Just In will say they are distorted, and
we're neutral again. What PA needs is a friend and a supporter, but not one
radical enough to fight the battle for her. :)
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Nornny
[View Quote]"posh" <Imposh1 at aol.com> wrote in message
news:3a36b02d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
nornny in response to both you and Just In.. bs.. total bs.. I watched this
entire ordeal unfold from start to finish.. I have in MY hands his emails
and chat texts.. with her.. with me.. with PKs.. maybe those being posted
JustIn would clear any distortions???? so before you go on about distorted
facts.. maybe you should learn a tad more of the subject nornny and Just
In.. don't push it
"nornny" <Nornny at snet.net> wrote in message
news:3a3688b3 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
He's right. Zero is NOT a direct source of information, nor an unbiased one
for that matter. If there's anyone who should be talking about this, it
should be Just In and FriendPA (is that her name? I don't really know who is
the other person involved, frankly). Yes, the AW community is kind at heart
and will defend their net friends til they die, but really, YOU guys get
yourself up the matters of others when there is NO need or business of your
own. And then you complain about the endless bashing that occurs. :)
Hippocrates, all of you, if you're gonna go at someone, innocent or not, at
least admit you're one sided but opinionated! :))
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Nornny
PS, if anyone says here that THIS post (not my other ones in this thread)
are hippocritical, I'd like you all to know that I'm an addicted basher. :P
I carry a rock in my pocket just for the occasion. Btw, this is in response
to Just In's comment, but this post is not one in favor of his comments,
even though I might or might not be. :) Just wanted to get it straight
before I get tarred and feathered myself. :)
[View Quote]"just in" <Justefyde at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3a367c78 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
No I never asked for, nor recieved payment for any of the creations I did in
NewYork. I was not "employed" nor "rewarded" nor given anything in exchange
for creating my work in NewYork. If anything the world owner was a constant
source of frustration and hindered me in the process of creating what I
wanted done. That I showed the patience that I did show is a testament to
my endurance, and to be treated how I am being treated now defies my
understanding.
|
Why is it that you people all want to believe the misinformation fed to you
by people who are at best 3rd parties, and at worst, constant complainers?
Why is it that you want to take the side of someone who relishes going
around in an avatar that carries a gun and happily promotes WAR as her
favorite world?
May I suggest, get on the side of those that promote creativity, and praise
good works when praise is due, and disregard the propoganda machine touted
by those that promote destruction and negativity.
[View Quote]"holistic1" <tkafader at pattan.k12.pa.us> wrote in message
news:3A366834.41142D0B at pattan.k12.pa.us...
Let me see if I have this straight, You helped build New York. you
requested certain programs, privileges, citizenships etc from the world
owner in order to perform the tasks of creating objects, building etc. Now
you claim that because you created those objects, they belong to you... well
sir, you are in sad need of a Plexdectomy. In issence you were employed by
the world owner to assist in creating a specific environment. Thus you
were, in fact, employed by said world owner and as such, all creations
belong to the world owner. What you are trying to have us believe would be
the same thing as Roland owning all of the programs that he has written
while an employee of AW. Son, if I were you, I would close up shop,
apologize to those people whom you crossed and grow up. You are a talentd
builder, but don't be an ass. You're wrong. You were paid with the things
(programs, citizenships etc) that you requested and received in lieu of
payment. (Which was NOT offered to begin with).
Just my .002
Holistic1
|
Plexdectomy = an operation where a piece of plexiglass is inserted into the
lower intestine, so when you have your head up your ass, you can see where
you are going.
Dec 13, 2000, 9:12pm
nornny, rather than post all the chats and emails I have, because that would
be a last resort measure for me, I would have you to refer to FriendPA's
post, and JustIn's response :) I believe that should cover it. and if that
isn't enough refer to the chat Goober King posted in worldbuilders :)
[View Quote]"nornny" <Nornny at snet.net> wrote in message
news:3a36d2e3 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I want to reply more to this, but it's not good for the thread or the
> newsgroup. :) So, for the moment, my opinions stop at this post on the
> subject (doesn't mean I might not post some more to this thread, but not
for
> opinion reasons). Posh, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I leave
> with my last cents. :P
>
> I can't say that I've seen Just In's devious side or even really believe
in
> it, but that's just through my experiences. FriendPA, also, I've heard a
lot
> from, and all good. Both are adults, and both are NICE adults, so all it
> takes is time before this gets resolved, I think. :) Posh, the only reason
> why I think you're biased is that your only argument is some logs that
> you've never presented to us, but rather enticed us into believing what
you
> have is true. The main argument you present is distortion and mastery of
> deception, but you've never accounted how you've gotten to it. Since this
> spectacle is already a public issue (not neccarily this case, but world
> rights in general) where everyone is begining to chime in opinions, why
not
> let us have all the facts you have, and let us interpret it for what it is
> before leaping to conclusions? ;) I mean, imagine all the time and length
we
> save. *looks at ever increasing posts* Never mind, we're half way to
> stretching the Atlantic Ocean at this point...
>
> Btw, just food for thought, but has anyone ever looked up the world
contract
> or agreement (if there is one) on what AWCOM has to say on this? :) I
don't
> think copying a theme is wrong in AW standards as you'll run out of
original
> ideas eventually, but what about copying in detail? If it IS mentioned,
> please post. :P
>
> Nornny
>
> "posh" <Imposh1 at aol.com> wrote in message
> news:3a36bfd5 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> directed
> this
> has
> you
In
is
for
and
>
>
>
>
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Dec 14, 2000, 7:58pm
Put very well Binary :)) That is exactly the point :)
[View Quote]"binarybud" <lmauk at traverse.net> wrote in message
news:3a391f10$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I think your all missing the point here.... sure they ARE his objects
but
> look at it from the world owner standpoint....ONE ....I believe it is
> plagiarism for one to "duplicate " a world that is already
> built.....TWO...if the structures were originally built for one world they
> should not be copied to another without permission from the world owner.
In
> this case we are talking about PRIVATE build worlds.....in PUBLIC build
> worlds the structure would belong to the builder. make sense? World
> owners need to have these rights...or else why would world owners want to
> have ANYONE help them if they could potentially do what JustIn is doing..?
>
> Leo :) aka BinaryBud
>
>
>
> "john viper" <jviper at jtsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:3a36debd at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> year -- we have spoken on
to
> copy or steal objects
> news:3A364E98.5B2B36C2 at home.com...
> care, and
> out.Maybe
> so he has
and
> stuff for
> those too
> ignore such
> When I
with
> the
got
> for
owner
> I
> finish the
> my own
> solely and
person.
> Any
> endorsement,
> this,
> just too
> stood
made
> a
> anything to
> at what
me
> to
forge
> ahead
> join the
very
> sorry
> world is
> build,
> mention
years
> event
along
> with
>
>
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Dec 14, 2000, 7:59pm
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yes!
[View Quote] "binarybud" <lmauk at traverse.net> wrote in message =
news:3a392acc at server1.Activeworlds.com...
hey and i have to throw this out here...JustIn you are a very =
creative and resourseful builder.... i do give you your due respect in =
that area......your just not handling this project very well is all. =
Best thing for you to do is come up with a new idea all your own....:) =
Piece of cake for you to do...i know it and you know it..;) hell we =
all know it.....;)
=20
Leo :) aka BinaryBud
=20
"just in" <Justefyde at hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:3a367c78 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
No I never asked for, nor recieved payment for any of the creations =
I did in NewYork. I was not "employed" nor "rewarded" nor given =
anything in exchange for creating my work in NewYork. If anything the =
world owner was a constant source of frustration and hindered me in the =
process of creating what I wanted done. That I showed the patience that =
I did show is a testament to my endurance, and to be treated how I am =
being treated now defies my understanding.
=20
Why is it that you people all want to believe the misinformation fed =
to you by people who are at best 3rd parties, and at worst, constant =
complainers? Why is it that you want to take the side of someone who =
relishes going around in an avatar that carries a gun and happily =
promotes WAR as her favorite world?
=20
May I suggest, get on the side of those that promote creativity, and =
praise good works when praise is due, and disregard the propoganda =
machine touted by those that promote destruction and negativity.
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[View Quote] "holistic1" <tkafader at pattan.k12.pa.us> wrote in message =
news:3A366834.41142D0B at pattan.k12.pa.us...
Let me see if I have this straight, You helped build New York. =
you requested certain programs, privileges, citizenships etc from the =
world owner in order to perform the tasks of creating objects, building =
etc. Now you claim that because you created those objects, they belong =
to you... well sir, you are in sad need of a Plexdectomy. In issence =
you were employed by the world owner to assist in creating a specific =
environment. Thus you were, in fact, employed by said world owner and =
as such, all creations belong to the world owner. What you are trying =
to have us believe would be the same thing as Roland owning all of the =
programs that he has written while an employee of AW. Son, if I were =
you, I would close up shop, apologize to those people whom you crossed =
and grow up. You are a talentd builder, but don't be an ass. You're =
wrong. You were paid with the things (programs, citizenships etc) that =
you requested and received in lieu of payment. (Which was NOT offered to =
begin with).=20
Just my .002=20
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Holistic1=20
=20
Plexdectomy =3D an operation where a piece of plexiglass is =
inserted into the lower intestine, so when you have your head up your =
ass, you can see where you are going.=20
=20
[View Quote]
The web page criticising me has too many errors, and I prefer to =
ignore such=20
attacks.=20
I didn't vandelise anything, I sought to protect my own works.=20
There was never any agreement that I was "giving" my work to =
anyone. When I=20
give something away, or sell it, I put that in writing (as I did =
with the=20
Alpha World objects I made).=20
The NewYork world owner and I had a fight over a petty issue =
that got=20
inflamed into something horrible. I apologised for that, and =
tried for=20
months to fix it - obviously my negotiating skills leave a lot =
to be=20
desired. I have many failings and for that I am sorry.=20
When I saw all was lost in the friendship with the NewYork world =
owner I=20
went and got a new world with some of my friends so that I could =
finish the=20
project I set out to achieve, using my own objects, my own =
textures, my own=20
pictures, and my own building. VR Times Square was and is built =
solely and=20
wholey by myself with the sweat of my own brow and by no other =
person. Any=20
duplication of that work can only be done with my approval and =
endorsement,=20
and by giving me due credit for the work. If someone goes =
against this,=20
well, too bad *sniff*, going to court to defend my "rights" =
is just too=20
much drama and too expensive. I would only consider doing that =
if I stood=20
to lose money, and that is not the case. Furthermore, once I've =
made a=20
friend I always do my best to keep that friendship and never do =
anything to=20
upset that. Sometimes, that just isn't possible.=20
I'm not in the least surprised that the NewYork world owner is =
angry at what=20
has eventuated. I asked her many times to come resolve things =
with me to=20
avoid it. And even when it reached the point where I decided to =
forge ahead=20
in a world I shared ownership of - I offered her the opportunity =
to join the=20
team at no cost or loss to her, and with everything to gain. =
I'm very sorry=20
we couldn't work together.=20
I invite you all to come join us in Broadway... a great world =
that=20
combines the talents of some very special and talented people. =
The world is=20
now open to public building and I would be honoured if you came =
to build,=20
or just to hang out with friends and catch some sites.=20
As time goes on we will be adding even more special features, =
not to mention=20
landmarks that many are all familiar with. And this year's new =
years event=20
will be boosted with even more dazzling effects than last year, =
along with=20
many hosts to ensure everyone has a great time!=20
Best wishes to all, Justin
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<DIV>"binarybud" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:lmauk at traverse.net">lmauk at traverse.net</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A=20
=
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iveworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hey and i have to throw this =
out=20
here...JustIn you are a very creative and resourseful builder.... i do =
give=20
you your due respect in that area......your just not handling this =
project=20
very well is all. Best thing for you to do is come up with a new =
idea=20
all your own....:) Piece of cake for you to do...i know =
it =20
and you know it..;) hell we all know =
it.....;)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Leo :) aka =
BinaryBud</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"just in" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Justefyde at hotmail.com">Justefyde at hotmail.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a367c78 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a367c78 at server1.Act=
iveworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>No I never asked for, nor recieved payment for =
any of the=20
creations I did in NewYork. I was not "employed" nor =
"rewarded" nor=20
given anything in exchange for creating my work in NewYork. If =
anything the world owner was a constant source of frustration and =
hindered=20
me in the process of creating what I wanted done. That I =
showed the=20
patience that I did show is a testament to my endurance, and to be =
treated=20
how I am being treated now defies my understanding.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Why is it that you people all want to believe =
the=20
misinformation fed to you by people who are at best 3rd parties, and =
at=20
worst, constant complainers? Why is it that you want to take =
the side=20
of someone who relishes going around in an avatar that carries a gun =
and=20
happily promotes WAR as her favorite world?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>May I suggest, get on the side of those that =
promote=20
creativity, and praise good works when praise is due, and disregard =
the=20
propoganda machine touted by those that promote destruction and=20
negativity.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"holistic1" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:tkafader at pattan.k12.pa.us">tkafader at pattan.k12.pa.us</A>&g=
t;=20
[View Quote] wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3A366834.41142D0B at pattan.k12.pa.us">news:3A366834.41142D0B at p=
attan.k12.pa.us</A>...</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">Let=20
me see if I have this straight, You helped build New =
York. you=20
requested certain programs, privileges, citizenships etc from the =
world=20
owner in order to perform the tasks of creating objects, =
building=20
etc. Now you claim that because you created those objects, =
they=20
belong to you... well sir, you are in sad need of a =
Plexdectomy. In=20
issence you were employed by the world owner to assist in creating =
a=20
specific environment. Thus you were, in fact, employed by =
said world=20
owner and as such, all creations belong to the world owner. =
What you=20
are trying to have us believe would be the same thing as Roland =
owning all=20
of the programs that he has written while an employee of AW. =
Son, if=20
I were you, I would close up shop, apologize to those people whom =
you=20
crossed and grow up. You are a talentd builder, but don't be =
an=20
ass. You're wrong. You were paid with the things =
(programs,=20
citizenships etc) that you requested and received in lieu of =
payment.=20
(Which was NOT offered to begin with).=20
<P>Just my .002=20
<P>Holistic1 <BR> =20
<P>Plexdectomy =3D an operation where a piece of plexiglass is =
inserted into=20
the lower intestine, so when you have your head up your ass, you =
can see=20
where you are going. <BR> =20
<P>just in wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">The web page criticising me has too many =
errors,=20
and I prefer to ignore such <BR>attacks.=20
<P>I didn't vandelise anything, I sought to protect my own =
works.=20
<P>There was never any agreement that I was "giving" my work to=20
anyone. When I <BR>give something away, or sell it, I put =
that in=20
writing (as I did with the <BR>Alpha World objects I made).=20
<P>The NewYork world owner and I had a fight over a petty issue =
that got=20
<BR>inflamed into something horrible. I apologised for =
that, and=20
tried for <BR>months to fix it - obviously my negotiating skills =
leave a=20
lot to be <BR>desired. I have many failings and for that I =
am=20
sorry.=20
<P>When I saw all was lost in the friendship with the NewYork =
world=20
owner I <BR>went and got a new world with some of my friends so =
that I=20
could finish the <BR>project I set out to achieve, using my own =
objects,=20
my own textures, my own <BR>pictures, and my own building. =
VR=20
Times Square was and is built solely and <BR>wholey by myself =
with the=20
sweat of my own brow and by no other person. Any =
<BR>duplication=20
of that work can only be done with my approval and endorsement, =
<BR>and=20
by giving me due credit for the work. If someone goes =
against=20
this, <BR>well, too bad *sniff*, =
going to=20
court to defend my "rights" is just too <BR>much drama and too=20
expensive. I would only consider doing that if I stood =
<BR>to lose=20
money, and that is not the case. Furthermore, once I've =
made a=20
<BR>friend I always do my best to keep that friendship and never =
do=20
anything to <BR>upset that. Sometimes, that just isn't =
possible.=20
<P>I'm not in the least surprised that the NewYork world owner =
is angry=20
at what <BR>has eventuated. I asked her many times to come =
resolve=20
things with me to <BR>avoid it. And even when it reached =
the point=20
where I decided to forge ahead <BR>in a world I shared ownership =
of - I=20
offered her the opportunity to join the <BR>team at no cost or =
loss to=20
her, and with everything to gain. I'm very sorry <BR>we =
couldn't=20
work together.=20
<P>I invite you all to come join us in Broadway... a =
great=20
world that <BR>combines the talents of some very special and =
talented=20
people. The world is <BR> now open to public building =
and I=20
would be honoured if you came to build, <BR>or just to hang out =
with=20
friends and catch some sites.=20
<P>As time goes on we will be adding even more special features, =
not to=20
mention <BR>landmarks that many are all familiar with. And =
this=20
year's new years event <BR>will be boosted with even more =
dazzling=20
effects than last year, along with <BR>many hosts to ensure =
everyone has=20
a great time!=20
<P>Best wishes to all, =20
=
Justin</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HT=
ML>
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Dec 22, 2000, 12:00am
Happy Birthday Alpha :) huggss!
[View Quote]"goober king" <rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote in message
news:3A41F810.63C869AF at acsu.buffalo.edu...
> There was heard 'round AW,
> A great, giant "WOO!"
> Which can mean only one thing:
> Happy Birthday to YOU!
>
> Woo Bit! Happy Birthday! :)
>
> myssie wrote:
I'm
>
> --
> Goober King
> Didn't know he had it in him...
> rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu
|
Feb 28, 2002, 6:00am
Omg lol you said this? My comments are totally out of the context of this
conversation... but, PULEASE.. say that to Ann? LOL geezzzzz InSaNiTy I
really love the honest and good part.. now THAT is a zinger
[View Quote]"filmkr" <nospam at privacy.com> wrote in message
news:3C7BD3FA.F68B66E8 at privacy.com...
> You may wake up one day having your PC taken away as evidence and
appearing in
> court facing criminal charges for the illegal data that was stored and
could not
> be deleted. This is currently happening to quite a few people who have
conducted
> illegal activities on the net. In the past 12 months there have been
numerous
> cases. In one matter the FBI got a life conviction against one couple who
was
> peddling child porn. When Bill Clinton was in office quite a few laws
were
> overlooked by Janet Reno... even Bill's perjuries statements under oath...
But
> today the law is coming down heavy handed once more to clean up the
trash...
> and for those who say "but I am not in the U.S." "You can't touch me"
Tell that
> to Bin Laden *S* The U.S. is showing it will root out wrong doing no
matter
> where it is at... So the choice is simply your own,,, yes you can DO
IT... and
> yes, they can fry your butt for doing it.... :)
>
> It is so much more delightful to be honest and good... it brings one light
and
> happiness *S* Don't waste your life on wrong doing and bad attitude...
it's
> simply not worth it...
>
> Filmkr
>
>
> your hiroshi wrote:
>
expect
avatar
>
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Mar 4, 2002, 12:17am
Good lord would you just leave already and not let the door hit you in the
ass??? you are pathetic!!!!
you were leaving two threads ago I thought?
[View Quote]"sunofsolaris" <thelonesoul at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3c826880 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> no need for me to do that ihnk, see i dont use XP, *I* choose what
software
> i execute and which i dont. Leaving it installed is no big problem for
me,
> my hard drive doesnt seem to be worried, my OS neither. Dont know what
you
> have set up there, but if you have to uninstall a program to ensure you
dont
> execute it or that it doesnt execute *all by itself", i would seriously
> consider a new machine and os, or a good SECURITY CHECK on your machine.
>
> Re the Security Check, why not ask Bud to do that for you, he seems to
have
> deemed himself "head" of that department around here. I personally have
> deemed him something else, clue: one word, ends in HEAD, has 8 letters,
and
> begins with D
>
> D _ _ _ H E A D
>
> any guesses ?
>
> cheers
>
> Sun
>
> p.s. kindly use a <snip> will you instead of posting what is already in
the
> thread :)
>
>
>
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Mar 4, 2002, 3:04am
You know what SOS.. I have sorted through and deleted out about 300 of your
"witty/sarcastic" trash posts.. and it is growing very old.. repeated
gibberish that I bet if we took a vote.. ALL are growing weary of... go do
something constructive please.
[View Quote]"sunofsolaris" <thelonesoul at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3c82fe59 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> yet another one of those "witty"/sarcastic content empty replies.
>
> yes leaving AW, which i have u cared to read correctly.
>
> cheers
>
> Sun
>
>
>
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Jul 6, 2002, 4:33am
Bravo MrBruce :)
[View Quote]"mrbruce" <MrBruce406969 at aol.com> wrote in message
news:3d26718b$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hi, I will not explain here why I was shutting A!!CT world down, besides
the
> fact that we wanted to enable terrain under the excisting builds.
> A!!CT World has closed at it's scheduled time of 12:00AM VRT Friday night.
> Many people protested my willing to close A!!CT World for good, because
of
> rude obnoxious jealous people who go around giving you a bad name.
> I don't ask for nothing, all my worlds are bought and paid for, some are
> open build, some are tourist enabled, I loan out 11 cits bought and paid
for
> and charged to me every month. LOL people complain about the price of one
> cit, those 11 cits are not world cits either.
> I am a very generous person, I like AW and I like most people and feel
that
> some on AW dislike me, but I am not quite sure why.
> Are there people that are jealous of me or are they just people who pick
and
> choose, like clicks?
> Anyways I want to make two points here. No.1) I am not here to compete
with
> any world owners, I just want to provide a world or group of worlds for
> people to enjoy! A!!CT is a "G" rated world. "G" rated means General
> admission, this is a family world and I feel a family includes children,
> therefore my world (although critisized for its allowing kids) will allow
> kids!
> Point No.2) If you come to A!!CT and don't like it there, there are 1200
> other worlds out there, don't go around like a "Brat" and spread rumors
> about me or my worlds.
> This was done by two people who sucked off my generosity, then persauded
> people to leave by creating false rumors.
> When my builders leave and tell me they were told bad things about me, it
> makes me wonder if people have minds of their own. But it also makes me
> realize how adults complain about kids in AW, yet they infact are more
> immature than the kids.
> For one, so what if we allow kids in A!!CT, we are not child molesters nor
> will we tolorate phediphiles in A!!CT if it is known they are one.
> Also I feel if i kid is home and safe in front of the PC in a clean chat
> program, I may just be keeping that kid off the streets and out of jail!
> I try to the best of my ability to make A!!CT world a safe world for all,
I
> think I do pretty good for a one man show! Yes I ask for help, but I don't
> need adults who pulled the crap the last two did to me.
> I have been temped so many times to post the slanderous telegrams and chat
> of the people who cause problems and then they say it's not 'them', it's
you
> MrBruce.that brings it onto yourself. I dislike people who never admit
they
> are wrong!
> At the overwhelming reqeust of the builders of A!!CT, I have agreed only
to
> close A!!CT until we have the terrain worked in under the present builds.
> Then I will see what happens, hopefully the PKs will put these two people
> (who I will not name) in their place. It also sickens me when 3rd parties
> say "But the slanderous "person" loves A!!CT world"! Right my point is if
> you love it..you don't destroy it with rumors!
> My point here is this (as I am not going to slander the "slanderous
people"
> here) A!!CT has been given a second chance for AW citizens to populate,
> build and call a part of their lives, use it..don't abuse it, use it...or
> lose it.
> enough said
> Watch for the new and improved A!!CT Worlds grand re-opening to be
> announced.
> A!!CT world owner MrBruce.
>
>
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Sep 29, 2002, 10:26pm
Now that you have sucked my bandwidth dry.. I feel a need to say something..
you are a true snot for saying this of Johhny. I tell you this pal.. I
have had a personal run in with you over the ways you gain your stuff, and
have heard from numerous people how you did them dirty in your "business"
dealings.. and those people were not JohnnyB.. seems to me you have decided
to dump on one person over stuff you have done to many. The way you have
wrote about him in here you deserve a hard "thwack" over the head. The
Johnny I know is honest, giving and very helpful and not for money either!
Not at all as you say. I find it hard to believe he should be blamed for
how you have treated so many of your customers. "host" <nospam at privacy.com>
[View Quote]wrote in message news:3D977722.7206A415 at privacy.com...
> Johnny B, You are a disgusting lying gossip. You berate anyone who
posts a
> truth that does not go along with your hate crime mentality of seeing that
your
> lying gossip succeeds in hurting the honest business of Heartfall. You
hurt the
> hundreds of users of Heartfall with your lies. You hurt the many new users
by
> feeding them with lies and taking them away from one of the safest and
most
> honest service companies they could ever choose.
>
> Before you fail to read further and post more lies to users... let me make
> notice that "HOST" is not a hidden name whatsoever. "HOST" is a dormant
> citizen account owned by Heartfall Productions. I use it simply because I
have
> allowed others to expire. So there is no confusion brought onto users by
your
> flames... Heartfall Productions is a company, owned by the citizen names
> InSaNiTy, Filmkr and HOST. Heartfall's owner has the recognition of
society in
> real life as well as many awards in virtual reality. Filmkr has been a
special
> guest speaker of the CY Awards. InSaNiTy has been winner of several CY
Awards as
> well as Several AVVY Awards. No one at Heartfall will every lead you to
believe
> anything that is not factual. If you would like to read about Heartfall's
owner
> here are a few links. http://www.heartfall.com/eqrelief/
> http://www.heartfall.com/govlet/govlet.html http://www.childscry.org
There
> is also a new fellowship being offered to myself as well now. Fellowships
are
> hardly given out at random. As for your attempts to mislead users by
saying
> InSaNiTy speaks in third person... I do not... Heartfall is a company
comprised
> of many artists. I do not take credit for their work. I am a part of a
very
> large artistic community of Film Makers and I give credit where credit is
> deserved. Our purchasers realize the artists involved in their new
creations.
> So when I speak.. "We at Heartfall Productions" well it's simply that...
"WE"
> My partners, my associates, my engineers... They do not always wish to be
named.
> Many people just like to be creative. naming them may make them targets
for
> hateful people like yourself.
>
> Please refrain from lying to the readers any further Johnny b.
>
> You Johnny B, attack on a regular basis. You have 1. Never met the owner
of
> Heartfall. 2. You have never done business with Heartfall 3. You have
nothing
> but gossip ands hear sea as your basis. Please put your jealousies aside
and
> quit attacking good people.
>
> Why not speak the truth? Heartfall Productions is owned by a man who has
> offered considerable charity to the people of the real world and has been
> honored by governors for generous work.
>
> Why not mention how http://worldhosting.heartfall.com hosts hundreds of
users
> throughout many universes and galaxies? How Heartfall Productions
services
> their customers with 7 day per week support including phone support? AW
does not
> even offer that. AW places it out to volunteers to reply to support mail.
> Heartfall answers every customer's mail with personal, detailed
information, day
> or night.
>
> Why not mention how Heartfall is the company that began offering safe
reliable
> hosting 6 years ago and brought LOWER prices as a result so that everyone
could
> benefit from realistic pricing? At the time Heartfall began hosting, some
people
> were attempting to charge $600 per year to host a world. We entered the
arena to
> stop that gouging practice. We even offer more realistic and affordable
prices
> than AW for hosting. We are not the cheapest... We are the most, for a
very
> affordable, honest price.
>
> Why don't you mention how hundreds of users benefit from 6 years of hard
work
> assembling a great objects path that leads to fantastic unique world
builds?
> After all... many of our users have builds that are nominated for CY
AWards for
> their work.
>
> Why not mention how happy these users are? Why must you berate everyone
that
> posts here in a positive fashion? You have attacked PK's who host with us
and
> have posted positive comments. You berate anyone who does not fuel your
lies...
>
> The TRUTH is... you have been trying to flame for a year now. You make
huge
> comments about rip offs. NO ONE has ever been ripped off ever by us. You
twist
> your lies around based on a person who was ejected for 5 minutes time.
Then you
> took a new user and filled their head with so much BS, you talked them
into
> canceling what they had paid for. You call that being ripped off when in
FACT,
> YOU RIPPED THEM OFF? You ripped them off by feeding them full of lies and
> having them loose one of the best things that happened to them. The fact
is that
> the same user is nominated for a CY based on the custom items like
sculpted
> ground, custom sky, custom avatars that they used to create their world,
which
> becomes worthy of being nominated!
>
> Johnny B... the history here in the newsgroup shows how you attack any
chance
> you get. You feed lies... Be HONEST!!!!!... SHUT YOUR MOUTH unless you
have
> actually been a part of something and know an actual FACT. You are
hurting
> users that may believe your BS is real. You do that so they can get on
your pc
> and have you host them at home. Then they realize how screwed they are
and it's
> too late most times. SAD.
>
> When you do something in real life and have society honor you, like they
have me
> in my life... please mention it. Until then... please keep your trash
talk out
> of here.
>
> Facts are these ... Heartfall World Hosting is a very honest, very
reliable,
> very friendly company which hosts many of AW's Gate Keepers, PK's, and a
great
> number of world owners... many veterans of AW as well as many new, very
happy
> world owners. We also service a large number of educational institutions
> throughout the world as well as providing services and products for
government
> grant projects. Although we try to help everyone we can... there sadly
enough,
> are times when we cannot satisfy everyone... We have had three unhappy
people in
> out 6 years of services here. We wish that were not so... but we simply
can't
> help those who have been hurt by the likes of gossips feeding them bs. We
have
> provided services to thousands of very happy users in that time...
therefore we
> feel that the honest facts prove that we are doing all we can to make
people's
> lives and enjoyment in VR more fun. That is why we are here.. so people
can have
> fun... *S*
>
> Why is it that there is scum allowed to chime in with gossip here for the
sole
> purpose of hate crimes and attacks against users? Flagg said he would not
allow
> attacks to be made in here. Why has he ignored the mob of lies and hate
Johnny b
> leads? Does the newsgroup need to be wiped out by law? It is coming
close
> to that seeing how hate is allowed... hate crimes are illegal...
harboring,
> promoting, facilitating hate are therefore also very illegal. Since
Johnny b is
> speaking solely on gossip... the motive of his personal hate cannot be
argued.
>
> If anyone would like the truth... you are welcome to visit with myself,
phone
> our company offices, write us via U.S. Mail. We are always here to help...
>
> Take care,
>
> Peace, health & healing...
>
> InSaNiTy, Filmkr and HOST
> of
> Heartfall World Hosting Services
> InSaNiTy's Avatars Creations
> Heartfall Productions
> www.heartfall.com
>
>
>
> johnny b wrote:
>
his
Mr.Bruce
yet
know
that
such
for
right
to
nobody
statement.......
point
that
by
he
you
to
"getting
Look
BAD
communication
ruin
are
and
way
him.
>
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Oct 5, 2002, 1:10am
snip
< I can say youve truly made yourself look bad
here bruce. This was about my opinion on heartfall and the only retaliation
you offer is my living status? I laugh at you.>
Ok ..so you did the same thing too now bluemax.. you two are even, so why
not take it outa here ( this is not the place to put personal info) and on
the phone or face to face and deal with it? I think it is a complete shame
that Insanity would come between two friends as this shows has happened..
"shakes head"
[View Quote]"king bluemax" <bluemax36 at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3d9e47aa$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
> Wow, I didnt get into your personal life but you sure buttoned up mine
> pretty well. And someone told me id get in trouble for slandering you? All
i
> can say in response to this post of yours is: 1. Youre just mad. 2. Youve
> made yourself look stupid. And i really think that going into my life is
> wasnt the issue.You as I last knew it live with your mom and your twice my
> age. I own my own company and work out of my backyard, not getting rich
> just getting by. How do you know wheter or not I pay rent or anything else
> about my finances? You really dont. Why do I live in my parents house?
None
> of your business. If that is all you can say then I laugh at you. Not Me.
> Your life is a lot more pitiful than mine. Its not my fault you have an
> hourly job pushing boxes around and cant afford to live in an appartment
due
> to wage garnishments to pay back child support. Or that you strangly
occupy
> your moms basment dripping in sweat and chainsmoking ciggarettes to spend
> all your free time and extra money to play peter pan in active worlds
> catering to the imaturity of such obsessions. Youre a weirdo. Not me. Yup,
I
> live in my moms house with my wife and son and im glad I do. My son goes
to
> a good school and he gets to see his grandparents every day. Im not
ashamed
> of who i am or where i live. I can say youve truly made yourself look bad
> here bruce. This was about my opinion on heartfall and the only
retaliation
> you offer is my living status? I laugh at you.
> Shane
> (King Bluemax)
>
>
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Sep 17, 2002, 11:31am
Thanks Weebo :) what are the rules? I am not, and I think many are not clear
as to what they are?
[View Quote]"weebo" <Weebo at my.activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3d870187$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> 1. Is voting suspended or currently going on? We suspended it for two
weeks
> to update all missing information. You can still visit the voting site
> to see the peoples sites, but not to vote. Keep in mind we are working on
> them.
> 2. Does the voting work or not? The voting works very well. You have a
week
> to visit the sites all in the categories by clicking on their signs. You
> don't have to vote all at once. The bot will keep tally how many
categories
> you have left and keep a running tally the whole week. Very fair and gives
> you more time to see all and vote at your leisure. This will also give you
> extra weeks to look.
> 3. How long will it be possible to vote? Once the voting is back up you
will
> have a week to vote. If you check now at the voting site and look around
you
> can visit the other sites. When voting is back up you just visit the ones
> left with missing information in. This will give you more time.
> 4. What are rumors and what are facts? Fact: We will go on and have the Cy
> but delay by only by two weeks and adjust time as needed for other events.
> Fact: We will try to be make sure this is most fairly done as can. The cy
> email was down and now up for you to send to us information or ideas or
> comments. We have already received much mail and answering them back as
soon
> as possible.
> Fact: We are going over and improving all that was brought up by people's
> suggestions and being reviewed.
> Fact: We are listing we check the ng daily and receive a lot of your great
> suggestions and ideas thank you *S
> Fact: We have also been looking at what you don't like and see than the
next
> round will be more improved so let us know here or in email.
> cyawards at awcommunity.org
> Rumors: Saying we don't care. We do
> Rumors: Cy will not go on.
> Fact: We will have fun! We will also go on to have a better Cy in the
future
> with all your help.
> This is for the typoo http://www.awcommunity.org/cyawards/
> Cy Team :)
>
>
>
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Sep 22, 2002, 2:20am
I have been in AW for over 4 1/2 yrs. Kerstin and everytime I peek at the
NGS (which I stay out of for the most part) it is the same no matter what..
wish I knew.. but if you do find out I want to know! lol :)
[View Quote]"ambivalent" <kersting at blast.net> wrote in message
news:3d8d40a2$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> i wasn't really talking about posts with ludicrous ideas in them.
thinking
> more of the ones that are straightforward, but the person just has a
> different viewpoint.
>
> and thanks for the offer of protection. * runs and hides behind bowen *
>
>
>
> "bowen" <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com> wrote in message
> news:3d8d3f5d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I *try* not
> post, I'll
>
>
>
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Nov 12, 2002, 2:30pm
Bravo ENZO !!..... For days I have opened this and done nothing but delete
it all.. Everyone needs to step back,quit complaining and enjoy your
time.... Take on personal responsibility for what you expose yourself to or
what you do not. Have fun!!
[View Quote]"e n z o" <enzo at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3dd1244d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I do not expect to see any replies to this post.
>
> Just so no one gets a shock - from now on I am automatically going to
delete
> all threads which focus on the following:
>
> a. GOR
> b. How much you hate GOR
> c. Nudity and GOR
> d. CY awards and GOR
>
> I have only been actively monitoring this group for less than a week and
> already I am sick of trudging through an seemingly endless morass
> of who-hates-who. This is supposed to be a community newsgroup. It is
not
> a GOR chat. Most of what I am reading is just fanning the
> flames. You are keeping a topic which most of you say you find
distasteful
> very much alive.
>
> If you are having trouble with abuse by anyone in AW the proper place to
> lodge a complaint is abuse at activeworlds.com
>
> If on the other hand you are going into worlds that you find distasteful
> then don't. Actively Ignore Them. We all have radios and tvs... does
> everything that is broadcast to them meeting your personal
> moral/ethic/entertainment values? If they don't you turn them off, and you
> tell your kids not to watch them. But the tv listing still shows them and
> the stations and shows still are there.
>
> We are taking steps so that 3.4 will address many of your concerns. You
will
> no longer be "surprised" by world content and if you are...
> you can report it. You can also lock your rating so that no one else that
> uses your computer can easily change it.
>
> Please make it a community newsgroup or we will be forced to shut it down.
>
> Thank you
>
> ENZO
>
>
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Feb 10, 2003, 3:01am
Good lord what are you? her halo holder? She cannot speak? "rolls eyes"
[View Quote]"just in" <anon at no.spam..com> wrote in message
news:3e461881 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Again... OneSummer never announces any events at The Gate, including
> events run on worlds she owns. She does not do that specifically to avoid
> any criticism about conflict of interest. There are signs put up for
events
> at The Gate and Alpha World GZ. Events are also promoted via AWEC,
> newsgroups, and word of mouth telegrams.
>
> Even so, in my experience, I have politely whispered to a GateKeeper on
duty
> to make an announcement for me - and they have obliged.
>
> The point is - there are good and bad ways to go about promoting your
world
> and there are successful and unsuccessful ways to do it as well. If you
> want to use the good and successful ways, ask the people that hold good
> events and run popular worlds.
>
> Regards, Justin
>
>
> "a1ctbuilder" <A1CTWorld at aol.com> wrote in message
> news:3e460c48 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> events,
> the
> two
the
> not
> spammers
> people
> pretty
do
> it
the
orientated
going
people
> she
> how
> for
chance
> to
he
people
you
does
wants
> the
posted,
> I
allowing
>
>
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