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Apr 27, 2003, 1:04pm

Hmmm, I also have Charter Cable and have 10MB of space. You might want to
check into that. It says right on their website:
"10MB limit is hard-coded into the system.........."

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May 20, 2003, 5:02am

Well, I wonder when, but I don't wonder why...I think they usually are
inconsistent. Maybe even delayed more because of other recent problems
though?
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Jun 11, 2003, 4:06pm

Because his post really should be under a different thread-but also under a
different heading. He is obviously using it as an excuse to air his own
grievances, not really to add to the, umm, well....interesting post he
pretends to speak to. But what an act to want to follow, whatever it's
supposed to be saying.

Look Mr. Bruce, for the people who are already familiar with your unrelated
subject, your problem, you really don't need to air it here with nuances
like "You know who you are" and " "teen-aged daughter"-your friends already
know what you're talking about and have an opinion of their own. But for the
rest of us....it does sound a bit like a private argument that you are
taking the opportunity to carry into the newsgroups out of vengeance. If you
would try to look at it objectively, you would see it sounds childish and
not really put here for the purpose of our enlightenment. If it is a sincere
warning, your way of presenting it is put in such a way as to detract from
that. But for my own education, you say this guy is DIVORCED so that makes
him the obvious bad guy in the marriage, what marital status does his wife
have? Just curious about how that DIVORCE thing works.

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Jun 13, 2003, 3:38pm

If that is a real question I have at least one answer for you from my
perspective. It's kind of like watching Jim Carrey or Robin Williams. You
don't really expect them to come up with anything intellectually stimulating
or sound, as a matter of fact that's exactly why you're watching/listening
to them, to see what amusing, off-the-wall kind of stuff will come up next.
Come on-be honest-isn't that why you've read some threads? Entertainment.
You are reading this one you know. But in this case it's written with the
expectation what is said WILL be taken seriously. Anyway, because it in some
way is supposed to have some real meaning maybe your intelligence gets
insulted or something strikes you in a certain way and no matter how hard
you try to keep your fingers off the keyboard, somehow a post is sent in
your name. (Not all fit this of course, just a very few posts, maybe even
mine included, and for the most part these newsgroups are so educational and
helpful for everyone, especially the technically un-savvy like me)
Anyway-just my take on it.

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Jun 13, 2003, 4:54pm

Well yes, of course, but that's why I only watched The Mask 11 times,
eventually I knew what was coming. But let's say they changed the name of
The Mask to something else-for example "Persuasion of Children". You have no
way of knowing it is the same thing until you've seen it. After all, both
Carrey and Williams have been in at least semi-serious movies before. (I
think anyway).

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Aug 13, 2003, 2:13am

[View Quote] Good for you Jacob :-) for not only listening to the advice to get rid of
Hotbar but also coming back to admit you made an error in using it and
removed it....which would have been very hard for some people to do
(including me) when one or more of the people gave you the advice in an
unnecessarily cruel and insulting way.....notably PCHamster.

By the way, if you don't already have it, Spybot Search and Destroy is a
very good and easy to use program for this kind of thing, but there are many
other free ones out there that maybe should be run on a regular basis by
those of us "unenlightened" enough not to automatically know when something
on our PC's might not be in our best interest.

Aug 25, 2003, 3:03am

I often see the US made out to be such a dangerous and undesirable place to
live or visit (at least in these news groups), but most often this is done
by people who have never stepped foot on it's soil. Who says it? People who
have heard someone else say it. Often they are uninformed, usually
condemning some aspect of the US that they either envy or hate (sometimes
deserved, sometimes not, but always changing--the same with anywhere else on
the globe) but most often it is not someone who has been born and raised
here. When I defend my country to someone who maligns it I am told I am
reading the wrong news sources. Never mind that I have never been killed,
raped, plundered, shot at or vandalized (nor know anyone personally who has
been.) Of course it happens and most probably in the same type of situation
it happens in any country, where people are poor, disgruntled, fed up or
without hope. In actual fact the worst crimes here, such as murder and
sexual assault, are often done by someone known to the victim. Certainly not
a good thing but it does not describe the population as a whole. It happens
everywhere and in all sorts of populations.

On these same boards once I used statistics to show that the US wasn't "half
bad" and was told that anyone can come up with statistics, but they deduced
by a supposed experience with some US servicemen overseas that the US was a
waste receptacle. Huh? My life here has been a delusion and I should look to
ill informed residents of some other country to be told what is out my own
front door?

Obviously we are not without fault but just as you would with your own
child, spouse, or lover, you will forgive it's sins if you see that it is
working to correct them. And you also do what you can to help. How shallow
to be expected to turn your back when things aren't going so well.

There are many wonderful countries out there that I'd love to see and some I
wouldn't visit for a million US dollars but I wouldn't choose to live the
rest of my life out anywhere but here. (naturally, since I've been told I
must be a gum chewer because all US cits are, I wouldn't want to live in a
country where it was a actually punishable crime!! Honest-look it up!) I
looked up migration statistics and saw that I am not alone in that, most
residents and many non-residents apparently felt the same way. Of course
there were several other countries that have their own cheer leaders also.
Good. That's the way it should be. (usually)

I did find one very informative site that gave crime and other statistics
every way you could care to look. A neutral site in my opinion but then
anyone who is reading this has the capability to do his own research, just
don't rely on hearsay or any one source alone, please, before you speak out.
For accuracy in seeing a country as a whole you need to look at the per
capita (per person) statistics because of course a country with 5% of the
world's population (I believe that is approximately correct for the US) will
have more murders (for example) than a country with .005% of it. We weren't
in the best place, but always far from worst. No one was consistently best
really. Now-the website:

http://www.nationmaster.com

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Sep 15, 2003, 12:55pm

Although I loved your comeback ("as long as I carry my weight myself"), why
even bother to answer to anyone who would insult a person on something so
unrelated to anything as weight, age, hare-lip, limp, color, whether he
spells color with or without a U, uses the metric system or not, whether he
has grown up poor or has had access to a higher education?

People who think they can only make themselves seem "better" by hurting
someone else in any way they can are not worth wasting your breath or typing
on.

Their own insecurities and/or the lack of merit of their own position keep
them from arguing on related facts.

My personal, "insultable" trait as I was growing up was my height. A few
people, including my own brother and my future best friend, used that one on
me all the time when I was growing up because I was taller than 99% of the
females I knew. It was impossible to defend my height but not only that, my
brother grew up to marry a girl who was not only taller than I was, but
taller than himself. I suffered about that for nothing. (So far, I haven't
rubbed his nose in it.)

In other words, you can tell the true measure of a person, or the worth of
his argument, by how he debates. If his side is worth defending, his
opponent's age (whether it is 16 or 60), weight or physical problems doesn't
have to even enter into it.

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Nov 11, 2003, 4:28am

Hey :-) I have that world you mentioned called "AnyWhere" but I haven't run
it in quite awhile. I think it might be expired now. If it isn't, I might
open it because it's been so long since I've been "AnyWhere". If it is
expired, I have others though and whenever I feel like it I can start them
up and "anyone" and "everyone" can go on "Forever" and "Evermore", but until
I do, "no one" can get in.

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Nov 11, 2003, 8:33pm

No, apparently I'm not anyone. If everyone was talking about me I guess I'd
really be someone. The only reason noone was paying attention was because
noone was talking about me.

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Nov 24, 2003, 9:25pm

Yep, exactly my views forever. That "team" and "players" statement is so
simply put, so logical, who could argue? Same with any country. That's
really the important thing in this virtual environment especially. Beyond
that, get to know maybe half a dozen residents of each US state, multiply
that understanding by a million, and you have a pretty good idea of what we
are. But read a few newspaper accounts from other countries and listen to
its neighborhood conversations and you don't know enough to judge. Like
Dracula himself and the name he uses. He doesn't suck the life out of a
person. On the contrary, I know he gives much more than he gets. I know,
too, that he is far from anti-American on a personal level. I don't think
all Finns have enough stock to open their own auto parts store either, just
because he does ;-).

I'm thinking-or hoping-Starfleet just didn't think before he made the
comment about the virtual plane in the virtual building. Apparently it was
the image that "Virtual Terrorism" conjured up in his head. Probably
logical. Maybe adding "LMAO" made it seem worse.

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Dec 4, 2003, 8:46pm

Yes, it should never mean arguing about its meaning. There can be meanings
in common among Christians and secular people, or whoever cares to celebrate
it....peace and sharing, extra time with family and friends, r/l or virtual.
I imagine everyone can come together for those elements of Christmas. Then
we can share our personal beliefs or celebrations with like-minded people.

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Dec 4, 2003, 9:35pm

You mean like this?

The Christmas in AW NG Song

(Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire) with apologies to Mel Torme and Robert
Wells

Our chestnuts (of wisdom) roasted on a funeral pyre.
Jackasses ripping at our prose
Mules like Carol never seeming to tire
Stating all their personal yes and no's.
Everybody knows a turkey who has got to go.
He helps to make our nerves so tight.
Tiny tots with keyboards all aglow
Will find it hard to sleep tonight.
They know that back lash is on its way,

It'll bring us lots of rants that they'll convey.
And every mother's child is gonna spy
To catch someone's lying the AW way.
And so I'm offering this simple phrase
To kids from 1 to 92
Although it's been said many times, many ways
Merry Christmas to you.

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Dec 28, 2003, 8:29pm

And could it possibly be the negative feelings MrBruce felt from fellow AW
world owners and citizens were not because he mentioned what was going on in
his world event-wise, (he certainly has as much right as anyone to call
attention to his public events) but because each time when it was close to
the time to renew, he panicked because of the huge cost and suggested that
because his worlds were bigger, better, and cost more, the AW citizenry
should help pay their fair share of his renewal fees, or at least AW should
give him a break because of what his worlds and cits were probably doing to
keep AW afloat? If he wasn't asking for financial help, exactly what was it
he was asking/telling? Maybe people who can only afford, or wisely choose
limit themselves to, a P10 or P20 or so and/or a cit or two, do not like to
hear they are not doing enough for the community if they do not subsidize AW
(or MRBruce) in other ways, too. I know it was a little unnerving to some to
hear the countdown each time. We all have our own renewal dates and for some
they must be a time of scraping cash together. With all due respect to
MRBruce, I certainly don't think he was pushed out of AW, I'm sure he just
wasn't getting something he thought he had coming so he left to teach a
lesson to those he thought of as his detractors. I hope it was worth it to
him and I hope he can now relax.

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Jan 20, 2004, 4:51pm

A world community online is exactly what attracted me to AW 5 years ago. I
sure wish it hadn't changed, (or maybe it had always been that way and I was
just fortunate enough to not have experienced it for the first 2-3 years). I
was surprised and very hurt to see it for the first time. And very
disappointed. I, for one, didn't come here as an American at all but because
of my interest in VR. I was, though, compelled to "morph" from virtual
citizen back to US citizen when someone, sometime chose to highlight one
over the other.

Like the Italian immigrant wrote home to his family shortly after he first
arrived a century ago, "I came to America because I heard the streets were
paved with gold. When I got here, I found out three things. First, the
streets weren't paved with gold; second, they weren't paved at all; and
third, I was expected to pave them," if you look at the U.S. as if you are
focusing through a microscope to find it's flaws, you will surely find what
you are looking for. If that is all you want to see, that's all you will
see. If you try to see what's good about it, you'd have to be blind to miss
it all. The citizens, newcomers or distant US watchers who expect perfection
and "streets paved with gold" are probably not the ones who will love this
country for what it is. Most of us are proud to have been doing our own
version of "paving the streets" since we've been old enough to leave home by
ourselves, but we are also free to express our dissatisfactions (and try to
do something to change things). The people who feel that it's a great
country are the ones who do something to make their little part of it what
it is to most of us, and/or the one's who benefit from those who do. The
vast majority are proud to call it home, as are the countless immigrants who
cross our borders every year. We are made up of almost a third of a billion
individuals, not one collective personality. It's the same way where you
(not meaning Lady Murasaki) live? Then why single us out, we are not so
different from each other.

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Jan 21, 2004, 5:50pm

Well I suppose it's not what you said (in your last post anyway, that of
course is fair to debate and very impersonal as you have stated it there)
but how you said it. The entire 8 word post was

>princess nerwen

>: "We are a Great and Free Country"
>Count Dracula: "LMAO"

I think when you laugh at someone it ceases being debate and becomes
insulting, personal or not. You can't expect people to take kindly to that.

And the other point, as made by Lady Murasaki, was, this is supposed to be a
world community and it would be nice if it felt like we all had something in
common here, even in our disagreements. (virtual, not real life).


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Jan 21, 2004, 10:05pm

Thanks Drac :-) to one of my favorite AW people always, even when he makes
me so **** mad. But you knew that. Of course we often agree on some of these
things, I just mean we should never laugh or put down a thing when we know
it will only lead to---well, lead to fighting flames with more flames. By
the way, if you could have been watching the political system at work here
in the US this last week you would have seen that there are many, many
citizens working to elect a new president in a few months. It sure beats
overthrowing the present government and having chaos I think. I guess the
feeling of some here is that these things are better left alone in a place
like this because we can do nothing for it here, and most come just to
relax. The reason it seems that it's only Americans that are the ones who
are "proud" and think to much of themselves here is because it is we who are
the only ones ever talked about in such a way here so have the unpleasant
task of having to defend themselves. Makes sense doesn't it? And yes, we do
generally have such a "love of country" that the faults we have do not
override the goodness.

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Jan 21, 2004, 10:07pm

Exactly, exactly, exactly! No one knows that better than most of us-believe
me. But as I said in the previous post, it is Americans who are derided here
mostly so it is them that you are likely to hear from about it. When you
said that even though AW is US based, it does not mean it is all USA, you
see why probably most of us are in it. We wanted to get to know all of you
and forget how we are different except in the ways we can learn about and
enjoy those things, as well as enjoy what we have in common. By the way,
nothing about your post was the least bit offensive so your "no offense
meant" was not at all necessary.

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Jan 21, 2004, 10:14pm

I read your post and for a minute I thought it was the one of mine that you
were responding to, even our starting year was the same. Until you started
speaking of things Australian, we had the same things to say. Honestly, you
are so diplomatic I wasn't sure if you were agreeing or disagreeing with me.
It sounds like agreement, but you can never be sure. Diplomacy will always
get you one of these----> :-) with me. Anyway, what makes an American an
American? Ideally for the average individual anywhere, the biggest
differences are location and language. The definitions of good and evil
should be the same everywhere, and hopefully there is more good than evil in
all of us.

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Jan 22, 2004, 12:21am

You are right (or at least I'll assume you must have meant it this way). The
slaughtering of the English language we sometimes see here is across the
board among the residents of English speaking countries, and you cannot spot
an American this way. Those speaking English as a second language should not
be criticized for occasional imperfect usage (although those that I know
often speak English extremely well). The ones who speak poorly on purpose?
I'm not sure what category they fit into.

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Jan 23, 2004, 1:47am

>"where money is the god and only strong survive" ??

How insulting to me, my life and my work and to almost everyone I know. I
think you've gone way overboard now with that all-encompassing statement. I
think your hate is for far more than what you say. Does your anger extend to
your brother in Florida? Whatever exactly was meant by that confusing
statement that you were replying to didn't warrant that response.

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Jan 23, 2004, 7:00am

>I doubt you can deny that there are a lot of poor people in USA?

>When I was in Florida I saw it myself. On one side of the canal was houses
>costing millions, new Mercedeses and luxery yachts, on the other side tiny
>shacks with some 25 years old crap car if even that. We were told not to go
>to certain areas for safety reasons.
>I simply mean if you do not have money, you are nobody. I guess it goes
>pretty much all over the western world, but is is just so extreme there.


I certainly do not deny that there are poor in America, that is part of what
I was talking about when I said you insult my work. If the poor are "nobody"
then what would you call the person who serves them? And why are they poor?
For every reason under the sun, but not as simple as being because they live
in America, there are poor in every nation on earth. It's too complex to
even think about discussing here, and your views are simplified and driven
by something that wouldn't be helped by discussion anyway. But one thing
that surprises me about your observations, as I understand it, most of the
snobby rich (there are all kinds of rich you know) wouldn't be caught dead
living within sight of the shacks you speak of. I've never, ever seen that.
I've seen mansions and shacks, very few of either, and never close together.
Mostly everything in between. But I've never been to Florida, it's a very
big country. By the way, how many poor are given royal status in your
country?

>hamburger selling were either black or from Cuba?
>I doubt even you can say that background ( money ) do not have anything to
>do with it ?

Background most likely had everything to do with it. Do you know how many
immigrant Cubans live in the Miami area of Florida, and what the
Cuban/American ratio is, for example? (legal and illegal). Neither do I but
I know it's many, many and often they need jobs. Were they invited to come
over and live in poverty? What do you think? Are a boatload of illegal
Cubans likely to get jobs at the local hospital doing your heart transplant
(even if they were doctors in Cuba) or at the bank as president? No, but my
previous bank's president was black (when I lived in Fort Wayne, Indiana),
just to keep things in perspective here. He had a nice place, not really a
mansion but it was on a hill overlooking a winding road nowhere near any
"shacks". And one of my sisters-in-law cleans hotel rooms. She is not black,
Cuban, nor is she poor. A niece sells hamburgers. I used to serve drinks,
and I had fun doing it btw, but I was working toward something else. It's
possible no matter what color you are. Ask Colin Powell, ask Condoleeza
Rice, ask George Washington Carver (oops, he died a long time ago). Well you
get the picture. By the way, have you heard the latest movement here in the
US? Without complicated details, Bush wants to make it easier for illegal
aliens from Mexico to keep their jobs (Usually low-end of course, give it
some thought as to why) and gain legal status, and in California the talk
has been to make it possible for people who are there illegally to get a
drivers license so that they can keep their jobs. What is meant by illegal?
Well, they went through the border and got jobs without letting it be known,
and don't pay taxes. I could not legally go to any other country and do that
either, so it is not some US discrimination policy. Many people think those
things, if anything, will be bad for the US and make the poor poorer and the
rich richer (being able to hire cheap illegal labor-no taxes for either side
and no choices for the laborers except that it will enable them to stay if
they want-which they generally do.) Why do these people from Cuba and Mexico
want to put up with it? You tell me. But that is often why you see such
extremes on our southern borders. Look around a bit more in the US, Drac,
then let's talk some more. Sure you'll still step over a homeless person on
the way to the bus in Chicago, but ask him why he is there next time. Is it
because the system failed him? Not always. Sometimes he has failed himself.
Same as anywhere. If you think with almost 300,000,000 (estimated) people
with as many stories behind their lives that there will be none of that, you
are living in a fantasyland.

>different; maybe more like canadians?
>I just have a feeling that withing 50-80 years, maybe even less USA will
>divide into 2, maybe more.

You have that feeling? No offense Drac but if I were to stake my life on
your feelings, based on what I have seen so far here, I won't live through
my next cup of coffee.

And no offense to Canadians, (they have a breathtakingly beautiful country
as far as I've seen, and I've worked with a wonderful Canadian who is now a
US citizen. I know there are many more just like her.) but whatever goodness
is to be found in Northern US citizens did not come down on some cold breeze
from Canada. It is native to the same percent of us as it is to Finns and
everyone else. Can't we even have credit for what good you acknowledge might
be in the US without it being because it was granted by the Canadians?
Something tells me you might be mildly biased. Am I wrong? You only saw the
fringes of my country-you do not have the authority to judge everyone by
where your brother chose to live.

>I know you are involved with the church and I know that many people have
>other values, but I was simply refering to a more general basis.
>I also know you know how I feel about religions, but maybe we do not need
to
>go into that now. Cannot resist saying that the richest organization in
>world is the catholic church, which for example own most land in New York.
>So all catholics dont forget to support your church when you buy forgivness
>for your sins. Must also say though that for first time in history the pope
>actually said something "good" when he was hoping for understanding between
>religions and less war.

I was not talking really about the church, you'll find some degree of all
sorts of personalities in the church as anywhere else. But your "general
basis" is not very general, it is very one sided based on what you saw on
your very limited visit. I am not Catholic but I know they stopped "buying
forgiveness for their sins" a long time ago. But Catholicism, my dear man,
is not a solely US thing so leave that out of this particular discussion. I
work with some and they are as varied as anyone else. The most "successful"
one I know? He is from Madagascar but gained his US citizenship. Yep-a
black, Catholic immigrant who works in a US based non-profit world relief
agency doing well for himself, and I love him (platonically) anyway. How can
that be?

But anyway-I've had enough. It's like you want all US citizens within
hearing distance of you to jump on your bandwagon and do something-I can't
imagine what. You say it's not hate but I can feel it. There's nothing I can
do about it. Let's talk about virtual reality next time.

Jan 24, 2004, 1:22pm

Just for the sake of fairness I do think Drac is well read and is genuinely
concerned with the future. I think it's a matter of a lack of confidence and
trust in government, most notably ours in the US. It would be naive to say
there have not been breaches of trust from time to time. But it would also
be unfair of him to say that we allow our leaders to wantonly run the
country with no controls in place. Evidence of both have been seen more than
once in the last decades. Nixon comes to mind, and also Clinton. Those were
not such grievous offenses as he claims are happening now, and they were
stopped dead in their tracks from continuing them. I can't imagine we would
allow a Hitleresque president to remain in power. There are those right now
in these months before the election who will, and can legally, attempt to
keep the present president from having another term in office, either
because they think he is not doing well or because they think someone else
can do it better. That is the way we do things here, if we want change. I am
not sure if he would have us attempt to overthrow the government or what,
but I kind of like this less stressful (purposeful understatement) way of
handling things. In other words, have a little faith Drac, Rome was not
destroyed in a day. (The previous are examples for the sake of this
discussion, not necessarily my views).

A side note: the coffee victim who successfully sued was brought up again.
For the record, doesn't anyone know that because she absentmindedly and
probably foolishly decided to hold the coffee between the wrong limbs as she
pulled away from the drive-up window she has since needed skin grafts and
surgery in places that most of us would never dream of needing it? Was the
coffee hotter than necessary, say hotter than the very hottest bath water
that it should have caused disfigurement? Obviously. Coffee can spill in
less careless ways, and should never be a potential danger, like maybe to a
small child. Who was to blame then? Probably both parties, but the lady will
forever be the butt of jokes because people only know "lady spilled coffee
and sues". The thing is, in the last couple years I have heard countless
times about stupid restrictive American laws, but no one does any serious
research on them before bringing them up. (The same can be said of stupid
lawsuits. Sure, many ridiculous ones are brought, but that doesn't mean they
are all won.) Does anyone seriously believe that people in Saint Louis are
under pressure to have their sheep out of their bathtub before sundown? Are
men really free to beat their wives as long as the stick is no thicker than
their thumb? Should they remove their hats in the presence of women older
than they are or be fined or jailed? Check it out, most of these "laws" (the
ones that were even real) were written 125 to 200 years ago and the wisest
magistrate in the state or county where they were written never even heard
of them. They are funny to read though, but it is more hilarious to think
that people really believe we are expected to observe them or face serious
consequences. (well, I guess we aren't supposed to have livestock in our
homes at all, and the consequences would most likely be from them.)

Jan 24, 2004, 2:24pm

You just tell me who they are, I'll go talk to them for you. Sounds like
maybe you unwittingly stumbled on a post you would have been better off
avoiding and it made you bad-tempered. Un-snipping?

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Feb 7, 2004, 11:41pm

Sounds like a twisted, convoluted misguided out of context theory by someone
who selectively studied the subject from the outside in rather than from the
inside out like some of the rest of us have done. You did spend a good
amount of time studying the subject and the people who practice it before
making that blanket statement, didn't you?

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Feb 9, 2004, 1:15am

Agreed...(I think I've been filtered by Sweets, but for the sake of any who
are following this thread)...where I was raised and educated as a Christian,
we were required to study other beliefs and worship with those others when
we were able to reasonably travel to do that, so we could see things from
their point of view (and share ours). Teachers (in the church) are required
to create an understanding about all beliefs, as well as agnosticism and
atheism. As a matter of fact, for example, this week begins a 6 week seminar
in my church called "Our Jewish Neighbors". We work together when possible
for common goals (not religious goals usually, but humanitarian ones). Then,
instead of the scoffing as some people here have learned or been conditioned
to do out of lack of knowledge, you get a kid who grows up saying "I can
understand that."

I do agree with Brock though when he said "Keep religious discussions out of
AW." (except where individuals want to talk about it or a world is developed
where you choose to go or not) and I think the Lady is way out of line
bringing Bible verses to such a diverse group.
Just my tithe to the discussion.

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Feb 26, 2004, 6:22pm

> Good movie how? Good as in the story or the general film
> layout/design/production. It definately isn't the second, that's for sure

Wouldn't the quality of this movie's "general film layout/design/production"
be a matter of personal opinion, just like the matter of religion or belief
in God? Anyway, I'm really surprised that Carlbanks even mentioned it in
here unless it was to watch the reactions of a sometimes intolerant
audience. It's not as if it hasn't been advertised. If it was a serious
suggestion and opinion, then I admire his courage to give those particular
views when he had to know there would be some attacks. In any case, whether
or not a person believes in God, from an historical perspective it is a
movie that quite accurately depicts a real event and the brutal forms of
punishment of the time. Jesus would never have been "punished" by being sent
to a corner in the upper room. History enthusiasts might find it interesting
for that alone. Movie caliber, technical and otherwise, will always be in
the eye of the individual.

Mar 2, 2004, 6:56am

oh Good God! What a stretch!
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May 29, 2004, 6:07am

>In civilazed part of the world companies usually tell about their changes
in
>advance, so people have time to adjust to the new "things".

>Yes they own the comapny and the company owns the world, but yet we are
>paying customers and usually one do not treat customes like shit. If one
>choose to do so, companies usually do not last so long.


>The way AWI did this would have most likely been illegal in a civilized
country also.

I don't believe it-can't you just leave it the hell alone? You're in a *%&$
newsgroup for a virtual universe-can't you forget the "us vs. them" for even
a little while? Criticize the company if you're paying for their service and
have a problem, you have that right. But it's one of a million companies,
all different, all over the world, some good, some not. Why the US BS in
there? I stopped having anything to do with AW or it's newsgroups mostly
because of all that crap, but heard through the grapevine that some of what
I used to think were my good international friends were nominated for CY's,
so I came here to see what I could find out. I went to the "CY results"
thread (logical? Obviously not) and what do I see? Phrases like


and

USA in Iraqi prisons, as a new example of USA model civilization)"

and


(btw-we don't even SAY "n****r" where I come from, and never have).

How does this happen? Is there nowhere we can be individuals and not
adversaries, judged for ourselves and not by the outside world that we may
have (used to) come to virtual reality to get away from for a few precious
minutes?

I've never abused a prisoner, never lynched a n****r", never participated in
a war-any more than your have, or probably 99% of the readers here. Berate
my virtual world in here if you must, not anything in my real one please.
Not here. Save that for when you meet me in a warzone IF you see me carrying
a gun instead of bandages.

Just a serious comment from a virtual citizen-nothing else should matter to
you in here.


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May 29, 2004, 3:39pm

>As usual you understood me wrong.

No-you misunderstand me wrong. I just mean, when I want to read about Cy
winners by reading a "Cy Results post"-that's what I want and should be able
to read. I didn't find the results there, but have since seen them. I
congratulate the winners and admire their skill and patience in producing
such fine examples of just what I loved to come to AW to see.

When I want to read about Mars by reading a "Mars" post, (because it is one
of my sentimental favorite places in AW from a long time ago), that's what I
want to read. Veger has a great thing going there, btw.

>I am not familiar with how excatly USA works,

I know. Me either always, and I (for one) need a place to forget the real
world briefly.


>There now I have bashed EU also ( happy now?).

No

>I can just wonder if I had called for example South Africa or Denmark
uncivilased, if it had made you cuss as well?

Yes, I came to read about Cys and Mars.

I know those other comments were Xelag's and not yours, but I didn't see
them in time to comment in a timely manner, I just meant they had no place
in a place where international virtual friends meet-they are inflammatory.
Things like that DO need to be addressed by people who can do something
about them besides just recite their angst against the US. We don't need
someone in a virtual universe to give us a

>"wake up shock"

Being here does not mean we don't know what's going on as much as you do, do
you think we are calmly smiling at those photos, framing them and putting
them on our desks?

>A bit in the same way that the african-american author, Randall Kennedy
named his biography "Nigger"

I understand the different ways the word can be used. In this case I
understood it to mean the "worst" way-thus my related comments.

>How it happens?
>A few reasons I can think of:
>Not quite sure what one should belive of this a) you aprove all that your
goverment do
>and stands for b) you deny that they can do anything wrong ?
Neither-I want to read about what a post says it will be about, and leave
the other stuff for the real world where it will always sadly be waiting.
>4) Some people take the NG way to serious (you?).

Exactly what I mean Drac...I don't WANT the NG to be as serious as the real
world.


>5. but you decided to use it against me, how come? Maybe you are somehow
anti-hairy >guy?

You KNOW that isn't true Drac. Most of my AW friends, and many of my r/l
ones have facial hair, including you. btw-you had 2 points numbered with a
"5"...why is the Finns have so much trouble with numbers higher than 5? ;-)

>The question is more like do you aprove how your tax money is beeing used?

The answer is, it shouldn't matter in AW.


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